Name a more incompetent video game developer than Valve
They have never made a bad game (besides CSGO, although that was a collaborative effort)
>>320572134
you objectively suck if you complain about that thing, its nothing compared to the degreaser or having airblast and its fun as hell to cheese nerds with
git gud
Name a more salty homosexual 15 year old than OP
>>320572134
Square-Enix
>>320572316
It's not about it being overpowered or something. It's just that in a wave of massive nerfs across the board, one of the few things they buff is this stupid weapon for retards, a buff which does nothing to encourage its users to do anything but W+M1
Bethesda
>>320572615
/thread
>>320572134
ChuckleFish
>tfw you kill people with the phlog without even having activated a crit boost yet, and they still say the only reason they died is because you used an "OP" weapon
Phlog hate is a meme. The weapon is gimmicky and fun to use, which makes it overpowered in the eyes of people who don't understand the game. Stock flamethrower and degreaser are definitely better from a purely practical point of view.
Double fine
>>320572902
>degreaser
>better
not anymore
>>320572902
>>320572406
>>320572316
>10 seconds of crits (Kritzkrieg grants 8)
>Now invincible when activating it, which was one of the only drawbacks it had before
>Now cannot be airblasted whe activating it, which was one of the only drawbacks it had before
>If used with a pocket medic, you are borderline invincible
Oh
But wait! If the Pyro is >>>>LITERALLY<<<< mentally handicapped and running at you in an open field, he gets rekt by rockets, which makes it a balanced weapon.
epic
Bethesda are the easy, obvious answer. Their games are objectively unpolished clunkfests.
Bioware have been an extremely mixed bag the last 5 years.
Blizzard have also not been brilliant since the jews took over.
Ubisoft arguably, Far Cry is basically all they've got that's fun. Ass Creed sucks balls and is milked to the point of comedy.
>>320573007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjRBrg0ZR5A
>>320573429
>he cant kill pyros
>he cant kill pyros that dont airblast rockets
>he knows theres a funpyro running around and puts himself in a spot to get killed anyway
lmao, you are SO bad
SOOOOOO BAD
>>320574921
>Pyro main calling others bad
kekrooni
riot
>>320573661
Bioware was alright until they got gutted by EA. KOTOR is still fun, and I get a kick out of Mass Effect 3 every now and then.
Pretty much any studio EA gets their talons on becomes bad and then disappears. Look at Pandemic, Maxis, now Dice.
>>320572134
Sonic Team
>>320572134
>playing Team Fortress 2
>in 2015
>Join a Valve pub server
>Equip the Phlog
>Get 250 points
And no one had any fun that day.
I swear it's easier to kill him now after he mmphs. I thihk they changed the rate it shields or w/e
Is it possible for Valve to ruin the artstyle even more?
>>320572134
looks like the wunderwaffe from cowadooty 5
>>320573661
>Blizzard have also not been brilliant since the jews took over.
Blizzard, while not as good (and D3 launch not withstanding) hasn't been really bad, just has been playing things extremely safe. Overwatch so far seems fun as fuck and will probably be another homerun for the company.
>>320573748
top kek
fuck pyro mains
>>320572615
>>320572741
well met.
>>320572134
How 'bout OVERKILL?
DICE
>>320573748
>using flare gun
what a baddie
>people actually complaining about this weapon
Holy fuck. Just how bad can you possibly be at the game?
>>320572134
Obsidian.
>>320578943
How to spot a phlog phag
DoubleFine.
>>320578943
Its a OP weapon on some maps and shit on others mainly because it has no air blast making him only able to kill people that are shit or by ambushing them around corners or flanking.
But it does have even worse draw back that is the taunt to get crits. Mini gun, back burner, stickys, spy and sniper able to kill him when he can't move making it not a good weapon unless its a full on cluster fuck.
>>320573429
being airblasted while taunting bypassed the taunt animation, you fucking mong
removing this is literally a nerf
>>320572134
Your favorite
I have 300 hours in TF2 the thread.
>>320579705
I wouldn't say it's OP on some maps, but it's certainly better on less open maps.
>because it has no air blast making him only able to kill people that are shit or by ambushing them around corners or flanking.
Yep. Basically all of Pyro's utility in higher-level play revolves around the airblast.
>>320579947
On steel there is so many flank routs that he is OP.
Also clearing the cart and Cap points with a ambush.
>>320579705
>Mini gun, back burner, stickys, spy and sniper able to kill him when he can't move
Not anymore
Now he is invincible and is unable to be pushed while taunting
>axtinguisher nerfed again
JUST STOP ITS ALREADY DEAD WHY DO THEY KEEP DOING THIS
>>320581310
Good
fuck you and your puff and sting bullshit that works on OTHER FUCKING PYROS
>ZATOICHI FINALLY NERFED
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HA HA HA
>>320581428
>getting axtinguished by a pyro
>as a pyro
You're even worse than me holy shit
>>320581817
Yes it's so easy to just not turn a corner and get burned, bloosted, and citaxed all within 1 nanosecond
Take your le epic git gud maymays back to Dork Souls threads
>PHLOG BUFF
>VALVE THINKS IMMUNITY DURING MMMF IS ACTUALLY A GOOD FUCKING IDEA
>NERF THE SHIT OUT OF COMBO PYROS
TF2 is run by shitters that are actually shit at their own game, I fucking swear
>>320572134
>nerf all the shitter weapons but CaC and DDS in one update
>remove the only drawback of the most skilless weapon in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjRBrg0ZR5A
Pyro barely got nerfed. People are so over-dramatic.
>>320581952
I havent even played TF2 in more than half a decade, but came into this thread to tell you to get good.
Unless you have the reaction time of a retarded slug, you should be able to puff him away before he's able to weapon switch
>>320572134
gearbox
I thought the Phlog buff was to compensate for giving the Pyro an innate healing ability with his other 2 flamethrowers thanks to extinguishing healing him now
>>320582242
>I haven't played tf2 in a decade
then you don't know what you're talking about?
>>320582470
the axtinguisher is older than your butthurt, retard
>>320572134
>>320573429
>only point in using a flamethrower is to air blast
>doesn't let you air blast
>this means its OP
>>320582503
Here's your reply, I guess
>>320582015
combo pyros just have to aim like everyone else now. calm down.
>>320577735
>cowadooty 5
Let's someone made a promo item for that in TF2, What's 4 other weapons that would go well with it?
>>320582813
Half a decade is 5 years.
You stupid little baby.
>>320583447
Who the fuck says half a decade?
Just say 5 years you mong
>>320582147
I think it's about the melee/secondary switch reduction. Also increased puff cost, if that's a real issue.
>>320572134
I could forgive a lot of things, but why fuck with airblast? It was so much fun blowing people off the level or into a corner repeatedly and killing them with melee. It's like valve hates fun.
>>320573429
hey bro check this out
>walk away from pyro
>juggle with rocket
>dead
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>320582015
>tfw pyro main since vanilla
>still getting kills with ol stock flamethrower and shotty
just use stocks idiot
>>320582398
>tfw flare/phlog pyros are at a disavantage because all they can do is afterburn which gives me free health from burning teamates
>>320585068
Hey bro, check this out
>Walk away from pyro
>Get crit burned because Pyros are faster than solders
>Die
also nice implication that you will always be in an open area
>>320585945
>Get crit burned because Pyros are faster than solders
shoot his feet, he is now completely harmless in the air.
stop being shit.
>also nice implication that you will always be in an open area
If you walk into a pyros territory with your flanks open you had it coming. Here's a suggestion stop playing dustbowl and junction.
>go on 2fort
>pocket vac a sniper
>he gets headshot a bunch
>get full uber
>go Vacc Medic
>Phlog pyro is now a bigger waste of a player slot than he was before
>>320585945
>walking into a corridor as a soldier, who literally shits on everything power wise and has ability rocket jump to get even greater advantage with a drawback of possible self-harm via rockets
Let me guess, you would be okay with it if it was a heavy squatting there with his dick stuck in sasha
>>320586136
>shoot his feet
Nice now he's flying at you at 7000 mph
stop pretending to be 'good' and just admit that the phlog is a bullshit weapon
>>320586513
Heavy doesn't have the highest speed-to-health ratio in the game and a gun that gets 10 seconds of free crits and invincibility every 30 seconds
>>320586660
>Nice now he's flying at you at 7000 mph
>HURRDURR I CANT GRASP BASIC PHYSICS
>>320586660
>Nice now he's flying at you at 7000 mph
that's not how blast damage works kiddo
the phlog sucks, stop getting destroyed by shitty m1 pub pyros
>>320586660
>>shoot his feet
>failing to realize how this works
You dumb shit, the pyro will fly away depending on how you aim your rocket
Just how brainless do you have to be to send a pyro TOWARDS yourself? I think it would actually take skill to aim your shot so that it lands behind the pyro running at you in a straight line
> highest speed-to-health ratio
>>320586660
are you a retard? your missile would have to hit the pyro from BEHIND while he's still on the ground for him to fly towards you
and soldier has the highest "speed-to-health" ratio in the game, kill yourself
>>320572134
Bethesda, Blizzard, Game Freak, and that's just on the top of my head.
>>320586782
>>320586810
>>320586867
>>320587126
God damn, the pyro mains are out en force tonight
Sorry everyone shits on your favorite busted weapon, maybe if you got good at the game you could use a weapon that requires an iota of skill
Claidheamh Mòr
>Removed charge duration bonus
>Now restores 25 health on kill
>Removed health penalty
>Now increases damage taken while active by 15%
For what purpose?
Now it's just a shittier verson of The Half-Zatoichi
>>320587382
i'm a fucking soldier main, i'm telling you how the class works
you're a pub retard getting destroyed by shitty M1 pyros and telling others to git good, just uninstall
>>320587382
>ran out of arguments
>better call people names
I'm a fucking sniper and I better understand how rockets work than you
I can kill pyros better than you
Thanks bro, I needed that laugh early on this day
>>320583726
It's not his problem you're too retarded to divide 10 with 2.
Konami
Sony
>>320587382
shitposting on 4chan must be fun
>Still playing meme fortress
>Wanting to nerf anything related to the pyro
top kek
>>320587558
>>320587564
>A bloo bloo someone thinks I'm retarded for thinking a gun that grants longer crits than the Kritzkrieg can and a temporary quick fix AND stock ubercharge on the 3rd fastest class in the game is balanced
You know what, you guys are right.
In fact, I think the phlog is UNDERpowered. I think they should give it 300 base ammo. And MMPH should fill with 5 damage.
Oh and how about we give it a +40% run speed attribute. And an alt fire that shoots crit rockets.
>carbine's minicrit boost effects his primary and melee weapons
JUST
CRIT
MY
BUSH
UP
>>320572606
Pyro was buffed across the board except for degreaser/reserve shooter.
>>320587818
Just give up and accept that pyro sucks and you suck for letting him get close, you have been told what to do to improve.
Go kill some f2p spies, that should help you feel better, just watch so you don't run into any scary pyros.
>>320588160
Yeah dude
Sniper sucks too
Just don't let him headshot you :^)
>>320587458
This. It had a good niche and was a balanced weapon. Why the nerf out of nowhere?
Game Freak
>>320581310
>nerfed
>not buffed
>>320588234
move unpredictably and avoid long lines of sight
>>320587818
you're that idiot pub player who runs straight into a phlog pyro, gets himself killed which fills his charge meter which gets your team killed and then you whine about it being OP because you got shit on by a fucking M1 pyro and want to put the blame on valve instead of learning how to play.
if you knew anything about tf2 you'd know pyros don't even use the phlog because it's such a shit weapon. Pyros only strength is its utility and ability to counter most classes in the game. phlog gets rid of that. a pyro without an air blast is a demo without stickies
just uninstall
>>320581676
they didnt touch the zatoichi
>>320588234
>scout is too easy, hes too fast, how am i supposed to catch him as a soldier?
>demo is op, why does he get two explosive weapons while i get one?
>heavy sucks, hes fat and has too much health and too much firepower
>engie is bad, why does he get to have a disposable teammate anywhere he wants? its denying me movement, nerf it
>why does medic exist? he makes killing things haaaaard
>spy is too strong, he gets to disguise as my teammate and can turn invisible, its bullshit and op
>>320588446
nice strawman dude but the phlog is just OP
sorry everyone hates you for using it
>>320572134
Phlog is only op on the new maps with shitty choke points and small fucking corridors everywhere
>>320588649
if i was a pub retard then yes i'd use the phlog and probably dominate you because you've apparently only been playing for a week
its still a shit weapon though
SEGA/Sonic Team
>>320588649
hey op, post your tf2 game time.
There was once a PC developer from the '90s called Capstone Software and every single game it produced was not just bad but easily the worst games you'll ever come across.
Oddly enough, it survived nearly 10 years producing these poorly thought out licensed games and DOOM clones. Capstone attracted big licenses too like Home Alone, LA Law, An American Tail, William Shatner's Tekwar and Wayne's World.
Pic related is one of their most famous original games, Corridor 7. It was a DOOM clone. Imagine trying to find an exit to that map with every texture looking like what's pictured.
Capstone was truly more incompetent than Valve.
>>320588825
Sure dude I believe you, you're probably a silver pyro, right?
>>320588915
>>320589070
>5 thousand hours
>doesn't know how rocket jumping works
nope
>>320589070
i said YOUR game time.
>>320589070
>STILL can't kill a w+m1 pyro
Can't believe this
Pyro is the shittiest class in the game ever since tfc
His life expectancy is even lower than a spy's
Game Freak
>>320589170
>>320589183
>>320589246
Playing right now actually and I just saw a phlog pyro jump down and clear a demo, heavy, and a scout off of the cart in about one second but yeah, it's really not overpowered.
It should also be able to damage ubercharged enemies if you ask me
>implying valve is still a game developer
>>320589403
>guys this M1 pyro just destroyed my short bus friends NERF NERF NERF
this game is now being changed for match making and competitive play. you had years to learn how to play the game instead of being a pub retard. uninstall.
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>>320589403
>5.5k hours
>can't understand rockets
>can't understand that pyros are still vulnerable after they finish the taunt
>has to make excuses and blame valve
Stop it, you're killing me
Hi-Rez Studios.
>mfw OP is that shit f2p who rushes a pyro while he's activating his Mmmph because he thinks the pyro is taunting and it's a free kill
>mfw he dies and then makes this thread
>>320589625
More like GUYS GUYS THIS GUY KILLED TWO PEOPLE SO HE TOTALLY EARNED ALL HIS HEALTH AND THREE UBERS WORTH OF BUFFS
Again, sorry literally everyone thinks your favorite pubstomping weapon is overpowered
>>320589731
The only counter to a phlog pyro after they taunt is an uber or a demoman laying down 3 or 4 stickies
I hope his team and his pocket medic let you lay those stickies down!
>>320589926
Nah, I run as soon as I see the pyro taunt because that or an uber of my own are the only two things that can stop a pholg pyro with MMPHThat's fun, right? A weapon that shuts down the game for 10 seconds?
>>320589948
>literally everyone thinks your favorite pubstomping weapon is overpowered
cool you should tell pyros to start using it then since, you know, they don't
>>320589948
Or a demoman that just lays his 3 stickies and waits for the pyro to finish taunting.
Or a heavy
Or a soldier with a full rl
OR a scout with a working 's' button
>literally everyone thinks your favorite pubstomping weapon is overpowered
Game Freak is up there in terms of pure retardation. Stupid bastards can't code to save their lives. How much you wanna bet Z will still have framerate issues? And why do they insist on removing features from each subsequent release?
>>320589948
or a head shot or a heavy or rockets or 2 got meatshots or a backstab if the pyro did not see you or focusing fire.
Justify the uber the phlog gives
>>320590194
Haven't layed today, huh?
Since valve buffed one of the most OP weapons in the game to be even more OP everyone has been using it
It's pretty awful, since one MMPH pushes the team back to spawn because you can't backstab, headshot, out-dps, or airblast the Phlog pyro now
>>320590237
>>320590287
>Heavy
>Surviving a second of phlog crits
>Scout
>Doing enough at a distance that will allow him to not get lit to kill a 175 HP Pyro
>Soldier
>Having enough time to shoot all four rockets before the Phlog pyro catches up to him
>STILL assuming the phlog pyro is only W+M1ing and also clinically retarded
Keep reaching trying to defend Valve's bullshit
>>320589948
This is why it's called TEAM fortress you mong, a degreaser pyro in his place would do the same. You know who else would do the same? Any class with good damage output. A fucking heavy surprise dropping on the cart means dead cart pushers.
>>320590350
>Justify the uber the phlog gives
it's still a useless job in terms of damage output that can't do anything at long range. give the phlog a speed boost or something and then we can talk about it being OP
any class with range shits all over a pyro. good luck charging a sentry or sniper or fucking ANYTHING AT ALL
all a pyro can manage to do is stop (not kill) classes like soldier with an air blast. guess what the phlog gets rid of?
>>320590593
Nope, if a heavy dropped on the cart he could be easily overpowered since he doesn't get a kill the instant one of his bullets hits someone
Sure, maybe he'd take out one or two people, but unless he also had a pocket, he would be done for, unless the rest of the team was afk
Does the Medic's Syringe gun still out DPS the Flamethrower?
>>320590546
>heavy
>standing next to a crit taunting pyro
Gee, it would be better if he had any sort of indication he's crit buffed right? Something like literally screaming and glowing with a giant animated ring under his feet.
>scout
>can't keep distance
It's a bad scout, period.
>soldier
>STILL can't understand rocket jumping
>>320590546
no one uses the phlog but pub players since M1 is enough to kill shitty f2p like you
>>320590546
have you tried playing with phlog? you will learn its strengths and weaknesses. i don't think you have use it much, use it for a few days
>>320590756
>SURPRISE ELEMENT
>>320588485
yes they did
>>320572134
Hearthstone developer team
>>320590779
>>heavy
>>standing next to a crit taunting pyro
>Slowest class in the game getting away from a phlog pyro
The only way for hi to be at a safe distance is to run away using the gru as soon as the pyro starts taunting, and at that distance he is going to be useless. If he stops to spin up, he's dead.
>>scout
>>can't keep distance
Not a safe distance to both avoid being instavaporized AND kill the phlog pyro
>>soldier
>STILL can't understand rocet jumping
I just tested it, and you cannot fire three rockets in the same rocket jump on even terrain unless you're using the parachute
The scenario >>320590237 provided stated a soldier with a full rl would be able to take the phlog pyro before it caught up to him
Rocket jumping costs one rocket
I'm sure you're good enough to rj away and kill a full health pyro with two perfectly aimed rockets that would both have to deal around 87 damage each though, taking damage falloff, random damage spread, splash damage, and knockback into effect though.
>>320590794
>Nobody uses the phlog in comp play
Epic, nobody uses pyro at all in comp play
>>320590797
Yeah, when I feel like steamrolling and not actually trying I like to pop it out and go 700-0 because of how braindead easy it is
I just need to ask /v/ this:
Why the fucking Medic buffs?
The Vaccinator and Quick Fix made a bit of sense, I guess.
But how does the most influential class in the game, both in pubs and comp, need MORE health regeneration?
Why are they buffing the Amputator instead of just nerfing the Ubersaw already?
And the Crusader's Crossbow change pissed me off the most. Medic has 4 primary weapons and only one of them gets used, Crossbow. It can kill a Sniper in 2 hits, it can heal allies for 150 in one shot across the map, it has passive reload, and it's Medic's only primary not subject to awful accuracy.
Here they aremaking it build Uberas well, while not giving that ability to any of the other primaries. Why would you ever want to use anything other than the Syringe Gun?
Overall Medic got a bunch of all around buffs in this update and I don't understand why. He is the best class in the game and would be indispensable to any team even with stock loadout, let alone the retarded shit like Crossbow and Ubersaw.
HE DOESN'T FUCKING NEED BUFFS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU VALVE YOU DUMB NIGGERS
ALSO STOP CHANGING EVERY HP COST TO DAMAGE VULNERABILITY YOU KEKS, THAT'S NOT A REAL FUCKING DOWNSIDE
They don't make games anymore, anon, they make money.
>>320572134
Konami
>>320591469
But a heavy does not have to switch to gru, taunting takes like 3 seconds and you can spin up while moving. The pyro dies after taking a single step.
>scout
>Not a safe distance to both avoid being instavaporized AND kill the phlog pyro
holy shit you suck at scout
You don't have kill that pyro at all cost, at a distance you are supposed to damage him enough to make him retreat, at this point you can either pursuit(hurr, walking int o a pyro wooow) or keep your ground and go after him when he's out of mmph.
>soldier
That's called mobility. Rocket him, rocket yourself, switch to shotgun. You, as a soldier, are in control of his movement.
>Epic, nobody uses pyro at all in comp play
That's because pyro sucks, and you suck for letting it kill you.
It's time to stop posting
>>320577735
Theres actually an Engineer shotgun that looks like identical.
>>320592043
>But a heavy does not have to switch to gru, taunting takes like 3 seconds and you can spin up while moving. The pyro dies after taking a single step.
stopped reading there
You've just confirmed my suspicion that you have no idea what you're talking about
good night
>>320581676
To still being a 50% heal on kill. And now it FUCKING OVERHEALS making it more retarded than ever before.
If you think it was actually nerfed and not discretely buffed you're an idiot.
>>320592159
>implying heavy will let the pyro walk right up to him and THEN taunt to invincible, forcing the heavy into a bad spot
