Are moogles the worst thing to happen to Final Fantasy?
No, shit gameplay is
>>320569796
No
Yoshinori Kitase is the worst thing to happen to Final Fantasy
>>320569796
No. Moogles are awesome.
>>320569796
>implying Mog wasn't the best party member in FFVI
>>320569984
>Liking JewglesRecord Keeper would be one of the most awful mobile games ever if it actually required the use of cash
The answer is no.
>>320569796
>implying the Good King Moogle Mog theme from XIV isn't the GOAT Final Fantasy track
>>320569796
No, the cutscene elements which were introduced in FF2 and made permanent in FF4 were.
>>320569796
No, lalafells are the worst thing.
>>320570196
>lalafells
>bad
>>320570152
We all agree CC has the cutest Moogles, right?
>>320569796
No the answer is and always will be Spirits Within.Lightning is a close second.
>>320570465
Hey fuck you, that movie was pretty good even if it shouldn't have been called Final Fantasy.
>>320569796
corridor gameplay is.
I'd rather get railroaded by hard enemies than invisible walls and convenient mountains.
>>320570465
>Lightning is a close second.
She's fucking hot though. Fucking literally built for sex.
>>320570570
It still nearly killed the franchise and put Squaresoft into bankruptcy
Best job coming through.
>>320570658
>>320570570
Did you watch it on your tasty plasma?
>>320569796
FF's greatest weakness is its greatest strength too. its not afraid to change things. for better or worse.
pic somewhat related. its a prevaricating pixie who is from a game similar to FF3 and 5
>>320570196
Just, no
Lalas are the best, I chase them around in ARR and threaten to kidnap them and lock them in my house
>>320570961
nigga that's gay
>>320570961
what would you do if you kidnapped me anon?
>>320570325
I think they're the cutest moogles
but I don't know how i feel about how they got arms in Crystal Bearers
Every Bahamut design after 9 is cancer
>>320571187
>implying 14s isnt perfect
>>320571187
>not liking Bahamut's fucking pimp stance
>>320570570
Get out of here, Max
>>320571094
I have cute outfits...
>>320571108
If Lilties can get taller, and generally uglier, I see nothing wrong with Moogles growing arms.
>>320571602
>>320571609
>morbid obesity and a gay parade float
No, it was:
A. the obsession with graphics,
B. the shift in focus to poorly written character drama about poorly written characters, in lieu of grand adventure; and
C. Square Enix's insistence upon reinterpreting classic JRPG gameplay (leading to abominations like FFVIII, XII and XIII)
that collectively ruined it.
I'll leave you to decide which of those things is the "worst".
Regardless, if they had taken FFXIII's $65 million dollar budget and split that between maybe 3x different single or double-A JRPGs that each tried something different Sqeenix might not have been so grossly reviled over the past decade.
>>320572376
>giant = obesity
Wha...?
>>320572785
Probably a Euro that thinks anything that isn't a twig like him is obese
>>320572593
Still don't quite understand everyone hating FFXIII
I played it and liked it, got over 130 hours of game play out of it. Also know people that played it and loved it. I will admit it was hard to get into it though
>>320569796
>Moogles
>Negative in any way
smfh tbqh fham
>>320572785
I like Bahamut's ex-waifu in Heavensward. She's huge and beautiful. Beautiful!
>>320569796
Nope
>>320572785
>>320572974
His proportions are completely fucked
>>320572593
>A. the obsession with graphics,
Like every other developer?
>B. the shift in focus to poorly written character drama about poorly written characters, in lieu of grand adventure; and
It's like you never played FFII, FFIV, or FFVI.
>C. Square Enix's insistence upon reinterpreting classic JRPG gameplay (leading to abominations like FFVIII, XII and XIII)
that collectively ruined it.
Yet VIII and XII are remembered quite fondly and XIII got backlash over mostly its story.
>maybe 3x different single or double-A JRPGs that each tried something different Sqeenix might not have been so grossly reviled over the past decade.
A company that's grossly reviled for a decade wouldn't have the financial success to stay in business. But you're ultimately just trolling so there really is no point in arguing about this so whatever floats your boat.
>>320573092
It's linearity was telltale Games tier, and the lack of towns, sidequests, and NPCs made it feel even more stirct. It's leveling system was stupid as hell with 0 freedom.
Now, the leveling issue and lack of side materail and freedom is remedied, and like you I was able to get a lot out of the game and battle system, but not until after beating the main game, which is a chore, and leaves most people not wanting to continue.
You have to WANT it to be good, then it is not bad, but to most, it's pretty bad. XIII-2 is great, though.
>>320573438
>Yet VIII and XII are remembered quite fondly
Well, XII anyway.
>>320573410
I'll admit the tail is a bit fat near the top of it, but wings that huge is practical given the size of the rest of his body. Even still, at the end of the day he was designed to be terrifying and he fit that role well.
>>320569796
yes
>>320573092
No freedom for half then game, and even then it's still very limited. No towns. Boring dungeons. Cast is all love-'em of hate-'em characters, except Sazh, everyone seems to love Sazh.
>>320573451
I honestly expect Final Fantasy games to be linear, if I wanted freedom I would play MMOs but that is just my view at least.
The linear game play helps keeping the player involved and engaged in the story and stops them from getting distracted by side quests and exploring I guess but I can see why people would hate that once again
Also, I played the game in large stints so maybe that is why I enjoyed it more than others and found it engaging, usually playing the game for 5+ hours each time and I stopped playing it when I finished the storyline and that was 130 hours
>>320573438
>XIII got backlash over mostly its story
13 got backlash over mostly its hallway.
I honestly can't believe they thought that scenario design was okay for a videogame. ANY videogame. I don't think I've ever played a videogame with level design that joyless and restrictive.
>>320573716
How quickly would the game die if they took out Mythril and forced people to use gems?
Nobody would have complained if Mog was the Final Fantasy character that got into Smash.
>>320573963
See >>320574110
Also, even though I expect linear game play from FF titles I still enjoy the not so linear ones. I think I have close to 1,700 hours on FFX
>>320573438
XIII would have been just fine if it had more open areas and the story wasn't so completely obtuse.
The battle system is actually kind of good.
>>320569796
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is the worst thing to happen to Final Fantasy.
>>320570961
>>320570284
I personally dislike Lalas.
>>320574565
*the best thing to happen to final fantasy in a decade
>>320574607
its ok to hate male lalas. female lalas are an absolute good
>>320574110
>I honestly expect Final Fantasy games to be linear, if I wanted freedom I would play MMOs but that is just my view at least.
FF games have always been linear, but they had an illusion of freedom that made them feel very big, and you could always explore the buildings in a town, talk to some NPCs, and get some color from the game, which isn't there in XIII. Then there was shopping for equipment and items, which was a good way to have customization even without changing charters' stats directly. DO you get a sword, or a helmet? Or maybe some potions? Or perhaps you grind a bit and get all three. XIII didn't have that, since the weapons were all a straight list with no deviation, and armor was not a thing.
Basically, FF always had time for you to stop and smell the roses, which made the games feel cozy and inviting between the action of the story. XIII was just a straight hallway.
>>320574649
*the worst
>>320574607
A lot of people do, there are people that hate them with a passion
There are also people that love them unconditionally
>>320574804
>>320570284
Disgusting fucking potatoes.
>>320574706
female lalas a complete shit compared to the boys
>>320574223
>pay up to make more inventory space
I'd stop playing to be honest
>>320574716
This is VERY true, having said that though. I always thought it would kind of be against the story and feel of the game to allow you to explore all the parts of the world and wander aimlessly around without much of a care.
You are after all spending the majority of the game running from the authorities and even the general population would consider you an outsider or cursed and not want to have anything to do with you
>>320575159
Fag.
>>320575327
I know I really need to play crystal chronicles, revanent wings, FFTA2 and the four warriors of light along with the 13 sequels
I've been playing XIV for a bit now, but seriously why is every time a male lala appears in the story he's some evil shit?
and they always have a mustache.
>>320575550
Because the game's shit and you belong in /vg/
>>320574865
>>320574706
Just no, all Lalas are amazing
Having said that, I am definitely prefer female Lalas. It's impossible for them not to be cute
>>320575267
That begs the question of why they bothered to make it an RPG with random encounters, crafting, fairly involved leveling, and ATB instead of some flavor of action game or ARPG where level design is less important to the feel and pacing of the game.
FF13 cardinal sin is that it's just so fucking boring and repetitive.
>>320575159
The combat system killed XII for me. What's the point of free movement when, with the exception of dodging melee or some AoE spells it's completely irrelevant?
>>320575159
You went out of your way to find the most jpg image for the Dissidia and Theatrerhythm logos didn't you?
>>320575986no I downsized them far to small then rescaled them back up instead of resizing the original image because im lazy]
Depends on how the game handles them, and how they're integrated.
XIII-2 felt like the worst offender of shoe-horning one in which clashed with everything else in the game.
>>320575885
I rarely moved during combat other than to manually avoid aoe because I only set my gambits to do basic shit like heal all when <50% and auto attack so I would actually have to input stuff
>>320575159
>not liking mystic quest
>literally the most advanced Final Fantasy game in terms of gameplay and music
Moogle is the best race in FFTA and A2
>>320569796
nah
so far 13 is the worst thing, and X-2
>also the new ff6 remake bullshit
moogles are cool in ff6.
>>320569796
Is that fucking Olimar?
>>320575815
May be so, I can definitely understand how some people feel that way. Especially about the lack of freedom and world exploration when you compare it to most games these days and their previous titles but then again when you buy FF I like to think you are buying an experience not a game.
Also, without random encounters, crafting, a leveling system the game would just become more of an interactive movie much similar to Beyond Two Souls. Although people will claim FFXIII pretty much was just a endless cut scene with game play rammed into it at random moments
>>320569796
why are you hatin kupo ?
are you just mad all the time kupo ?
>>320576271
I know im a big fucking pleb it had motherfucking JUMPING even type 0 didnt have jumping
>>320569796
iOS/Mobile ports and everything derived from them are the worst.
>3 and 4 get fancy DS remakes/ and 4 gets all that and upscale PSP remake like 1 and 2 did.
>5 and 6 get literally shit upon
kefka was right, life is meaningless
I don't believe that anyone could ever possibly seriously hold that opinion.
>>320576114
But it's an Ivalice game. Bangaa, Hume, Moogles, and Viera are all in the game.
>>320570284
they look cute
>>320575159
I died to the demon gate in ff7 for the first time ever the other day.
I managed to put into fucking lucky 7777's on like my third hit and it did the cave in attack hit everyone for 7777 and I got gameovered before it dawned on me
>>320577194
>Heavensward
Boy did that sure crash on its own face.
>>320577292
Played FFXIV ARR, best mmo I have played to date. Even beats WoW back in it's glory days.
Lost all motivation to play it when they announced Heavenward expansion was going to have increased level cap (automatic power creep).
Quit shortly after and never played it since
>>320569796
no cloud was
>>320578667
>implying blond, lightly-toned twinks are ever a bad thing
>>320569796
Stop hating xem. Xe deserves hir respect.
Moogles and potatoes are ok. Rats are best though.burmecians in ff14 when?
>>320580880
Never because Japan hates Beastmen races and the devs are lazy as fuck and don't want to make new models.
>FF12 moogle
>>320581662
I just pulled an image of a moogle off of google images you autistic frogposter
The amount of retardation in this thread is staggering.
>>320583330
Yeah I seriously can't understand why anyone would like moogles
Any answer besides pic related is wrong.
R.I.P Squaresoft 1983-2003
>>320585170
Literally nothing wrong with Spirits Within
>>320585226
Besides the fact that it almost single-handedly killed Square.
>>320570196
Lalafels are a blight that's for sure but they're not as bad as moogles because they're contained in their own game
More Moogles, Rats, and Quina would improve the series tenfold.
