http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/17/10428976/coleco-chameleon-console-game-cartridges
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Coleco was behind some of the earliest attempts to bring video games to your living room, with mildly successful consoles like the ColecoVision in 1982. Like many game companies at the time, Coleco went bankrupt in the late '80s. However, it was reformed in 2005, and now it's announcing its first new console in decades: the Coleco Chameleon, a modern machine that will play games stored on plastic cartridges.
so, what does /v/ think? can hipsters alone save this idea?
>>320540183
Can I play weeb games?
No, this is a retarded idea and will do horribly.
>a new cartridge-based console
But why
Will it let me play Android quality games on my TV?
This looks like a mixture of an Atari Jaguar at the top and back and a Sega Genesis Model II at the front.
>>320540393
Why? Drives are easily going to hold more data then cd's, blue-ray or not.
this is like re releasing the apple palm pilot in an iphone case. actually. that would still sell, fuck hipsters
>>320540509
It could probably work pretty well. With modern technology, you could hold more data on flash storage than discs.
>literally wanting the successor of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBMO8F1I-h4
>>320540183
>it's for retro games
So it'll flop harder than the Ouya? Seriously we have emulators. Nobody is gonna bother with this.
>>320540690
And they load faster too
>>320540690
flash storage is massively more expensive than discs
>>320540690
>physical media for an indie console
>>320540692
>I'M LE ANGRY ABOUT VIDEO GAMES!
Fuck this faggot and your e celeb bullshit.
>>320540393
Flash drives are easily viable for games bra.
They load faster than other memory.
They arent as shitty as 10 years ago.
it's a nice idea, but any game from that era can easily just be played on an emulator by anyone who still cares about them.
>>320540183
It's going to be a niche hipster device, and it's likely it will do just as bad as the Ouya, if not worse.
If they pack a quality x64 based APU in the thing with high-clockspeed RAM, and the cartridges are just basically fat 32GB+ flash drives; we might see some quality games. However, these games will likely be ones that have been out(i.e. Memecraft, Fallout/Skyrim, CoD, and so on.)
>>320540183
>that Nintendo pro controller
>analog sticks above buttons
dropped so hard I might actually sell my colecovision
>>320540625
This.
If you think about it, solid state is funnily enough the best progression for consoles, considering it has the ability to store a whole lot more, and it has blazing loading times compared to discs.
>>320540625
>>320540690
This is true.
I guarantee you that you could put Fallout 4 on a cartridge today with superior quality to a physical copy.
The problem is the price.
>>320540692
You do realize that the ColecoVision was by far the best second gen console when it came to specs right? While the Atari 2600 and Intellivision had bloops and bleeps, the ColecoVision had NES style graphics and sound.
>>320540183
Did they sell the retro magazine console to coleco? Because this looks like the jaguar machine tools they are using
>>320540183
>it will still be called Coleco Vision
>>320540183
Who has the Wu-Tang album?
Why....
>>320540869
He hasn't done periodical AVGN episodes for years now. Sometimes he does one-offs but mainly he has in fact stopped the "LE I'M ANGRY AT VIDEO GAMES!" thing.
>>320540625
Flash drives are fine, althought I am not sure if they would be cheap enough. The problem is that they want to make a console dedicated to the shitty indie games you see all the time on steam.
![HotRod+DS-final[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cYzGoHq.jpg "HotRod+DS-final[1].jpg")
>>320540183
>>320540690
>>320540775
>>320540906
>>320541126
>>320541158
this piece of hipster garbage actually has potential to blow the current consoles out of the water
but it probably won't
>>320541340
Not sure.
>>320541442
It's called the Coleco Chameleon.
>>320540183
I hope they can break even with <1m sales and maybe one game. I think it's important that this sort of thing get made.
Incidentally, it's also a shadow-conspiracy from Sony. They found out that the NX is going to be using cartridges from one of their corporate spies and are attempting to beat Nintendo to market and undermine their credibility. ColecoVision is a sacrificial pawn.
>>320540625
The idea is retarded for one reason only. Price to manufacture. Discs became the norm because of how cheap they were in comparison, along with size. Until something cheaper comes along, discs will be the cheapest physical way.
>>320540183
I'm so fucking in. I hope this could live as the neo geo.
>>320541553
>has potential to blow the current consoles out of the water
no it fucking doesn't you nimrod
I like to see the result. Maybe it really is any good. It will be something special maybe it will really be a nice change.
>>320541827
feeling threatened?
>>320540183
>literally just another chinese SD-card reader that plays ROMS of old games.
>literally just a slightly reshaped xbox 360 controller.
>made by a company that hasn't made a game in 30 years.
I see no flaws in this plan.
as long as it takes other controllers, because if that controller is shit it's by default a shit console
>>320541692
source on that?
>>320541873
Yeah, I cant believe all my favourite companies are going to go bankrupt because they wont be able to compete with the billionth emulation centric machine to come out.
>>320541873
Why the fuck would he feel threatened?
The only people this would hurt if it got big are indie or small time dev studios who want to publish on consoles because they have to pay more to get their game physically made and plus it will cost other devs more money to port to this specific console and to print physical copies for it.
It's a fucking retarded idea.
![large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jXp6V4G.jpg "large[1].jpg")
*tips hat*
I too prefer retro gaming over today's overpriced popularity contest
>>320541873
>>320541984
I can't say. They'll find my source, torture my name out of them, and find me. They'll eradicate everyone I know and love.
Spread the word. Sony is coming.
>>320541904
>>literally just a slightly reshaped xbox 360 controller.
Really? This is what you noticed. First of all it's not even true, it's closer to the Wii U pro controller, but also, THE FUCKING CONSOLE IS AN ATARI JAGUAR.
It's probably just a artists rendering anyway
>>320540183
That controller literally has a SNES controller inside of it. You can even see the outline of it as well as the exact same Start/Select buttons.
>the only people who think this is a good idea are outright ignoring anyone of the people in this thread explaining that the price of cartridge manufacture will prevent it from becoming successful
Shill thread. Move on.
>>320541543
This.
Why does this new console look like a Jaguar?
>>320542101
This is ironic right? I know people had high hopes, but come on
>>320540869
>/v/ SUDDENLY hates OLD-SCHOOL Video GAME NERD!
WHAT HAPPENED?
>>320542153
>It's probably just a artists rendering anyway
The article confirms this. It also states it is meant to play retro games and 2d indie games. It will probably run android and depend on emulators.
>>320542040
>>320542118
>>320542101
lol
such angry responses, post more than you play
>>320540692
Retards like you have made it impossible to discuss certain games on /vr/ anymore because they're so terrified of people parroting e-celebs.
Well, if it gets decent third party support, then I might take a look.
>>320542383
>It will probably run android and depend on emulators.
I would have been more impressed if it was a jaguar with a wiiu pro controller attached and a coleco stamp
>>320541827
Here's the problem with this idea; it will be emulation based.
They need to put some modern AAA titles out like Fallout 4, MGSV, Rainbow Six Siege, etc. The problem is getting up enough money to get proper ports and licenses of these games to put on their cartridges.
>>320542118
you're retarded
>>320541745
Yeah, back in the 90s. Things are way cheaper now.
>>320541130
>>320541157
>Looks like a decent dpad
>Symmetrical analog stick placement
Winrar.
>>320542575
I'm shitting on coleco now, stop baiting me into shitting on nintendies
>>320542284
No, it was serious. That one's 100% unironic. Same with pic related.
Yes, they shipped the machine with that in the box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ha6Mb5_YQ
That was also part of their marketing campaign. That's a real ad. They put that up for real, and were serious about it.
>>320540778
Probably, but there is still a large profit margin on the manufacturing costs. Even is they sell the games at $50, it would probably only cost around $20 for productions and shipping per unit. I'm not an expert in this kind of stuff and I'm not pretending to be, but it seems like it could work.
>>320542554
Oh god, you're one of them. A Sony Shill. Trying to undermine me and my information.
It's all true, everybody. Stop listening to their lies!
>>320542691
Except, that controller seems legit amazing, bar the tiny analog sticks.
>>320540869
>>I'M LE ANGRY ABOUT VIDEO GAMES!
You mean like what /v/ is like all the time?
>>320542823
stale b8 m8, r8 2/8
>>320541158
>solid state is funnily enough the best progression for consoles
Too bad Blu-rays cost a nickel to manufacture which makes them far more cost efficient.
>>320542691
The OPic seems tight.
Can't be any worse than the current batch of shit consoles
>>320540627
And next year it will be Apple TV, which everyone has suddenly stopped talking about.
>>320542559
Which costs less to manufacture in bulk, flash memory or discs? Discs cost pennies. Literal pennies. Find me a source that it's comparably cost-effective to use flash memory instead, in an industry where AAA games sell millions of units.
>>320540183
Eh.
This gets me thinking. Couldn't Nintendo make a killing of they literally remade N64s, controllers and cartridges? How much would the thing cost to make with today's technology? I know plenty of people who stopped playing videogames years ago, but would buy a cheap console to play Smash, Kart, and Party again.
>>320542889
Just a reminder not to listen to this poster's lies, they're an evil person trying to hide the truth.
>>320540869
He existed before the hype. He actually knows a lot about retro games and he doesn't just scream at it he makes up clever insults. He's a classic he invented all that eceleb shit. It's actually funny to watch.
>>320542708
Jesus, thats probably the worst ad I have seen in my entire life.
>>320541483
Martin Shkreli
>>320542867
It's not a surprise that /v/ is full of faggots who post more than what they play.
>>320542559
>>320542791
Flash storage is much cheaper now than it was, but it's still hundreds/thousands of times more costly than stamping discs.
>coleco console
>in 2015
THE CRASH IS HAPPENING AGAIN
THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA IS UPON US
>>320542967
It easily can. If this is an android machine, it's complete garbage.
>>320543095
I dunno I liked it how he slapped himself with his own spine.
>>320543271
Thank fuck
Maybe next we'll get consoles with free online again
>/v/ talking about this as if it won't be another mobileshit box
>>320540183
So it's a device that plays indie games on solid state memory? Like my phone, tablet, computers, handhelds and consoles already can?
Wow. Sign me the fuck up.
>>320540183
>Left thumb stick above face buttons
Fuck
>>320543271
How long until we get games about dog food?
>>320543343
Some of the best games that get released on the $400 consoles can run on your fucking phone.
>>320543682
>best
top www
>>320540509
Low write endurance flash is cheap, and a cartridge is essentially all ROM.
I actually really wish the ps4/xbone were cart consoles.
>cheap cashgrab consoles out the ass
>literally millions of mobile trash games
>snes9x on steam
>nintendo making more money off toys than games
Next video game market crash, please
>>320543056
I don't think you thought this shit through.
Let's assume you have an N64, and something inside it breaks. You know this guy who's more than competent with electronics, so you bring it over to him.
He opens the case up, takes one look inside, and then asks if you have about 60 bucks to cover the replacement of some ancient parts that aren't actually in production anywhere in the world anymore, and you can only find them pulled from other N64s.
Why the fuck would you make a modern version of something ancient and outdated? If they were to make such a machine, it would be using modern day off the shelf components, and every game would be emulated and a digital download.
There already exists a very big market for what you seek, by the way. It's called 'the second hand videogame market.' For less than 100 dollars, you can have an N64, with four controllers, and some trash games. Just one click away on the internet auction site of your choice, your local flea market, or your country's version of goodwill stores.
Baka.
>>320543682
The only game I enjoyed on android is TWEWY, which is, surprise, a DS port.
Games like Bloodborne, Smash 4, Infamous and Mario Kart 8 wouldn't be done on mobile, not only because the hardware is weaker, but also because they defacto come without physical buttons and developpers want to reach the widest audience possible.
>>320540183
Literally who?
>>320541521
>Flash driver are fine
Until you hit their expiry date.
>>320544128
You act like optical drives aren't just as prone to failure.
>>320543682
Android has no gaems
All the good shit is on iOS and even that's a stretch for a game console
>>320542278
Retro VGS bought the old Jaguar mold and was going to use it for their console until their funding campaign failed miserably. Looks like even with Coleco's backing they are still going to reuse it to save money.
>>320544239
I said nothing in regards to optical media.
>>320544273
It's not 2009 anymore. What you stated is the opposite, if anything.
>>320543095
Here's another one they did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v2isTyggRw
>>320544394
Then you weren't really following the conversation, and your post was absolutely meaningless.
That controller looks ultra shitty
>direct linking the verge
>>320543902
snes9x on steam?
>>320540183
It could work if they were popular but some no-name faggots switching to carts will fail miserably.
Like, where are they gonna get the games? Who will manufacture them? Or will it just play old games?
>>320540183
that's a fucking jaguar wtf
>>320544446
Name some good games then
No mobile tap to win shit
Also do this keeping in mind that Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney are on iOS and not android
>>320540183
Pretty cool but what's with these modern day controller designs? Every company does this shit and most of them aren't good. The thumbsticks are best placed like they are on Xbox or Playstation. Having them up like that is stupid as fuck.
I would like to see better more innovative controller designs. Same old lame ass shit here.
>>320544638
The 'new' Bubsy is two Bubsy ROMS bundled with SNES9x.
It's a total 6 megs worth of download. Better upgrade that RAM to 64 megs, and install a voodoo banshee!
>>320544606
Landing a spacraft on a comet sounds like raddest fucking thing about space exploration throughout the history.
>>320544582
It's only you, m8.
>literally a nostalgia machine
What's the point of this thing when emulation exists? Only hipsters who masturbate to pictures of old tech would be interested in this.
>>320544013
Good point.
What if they made this for the N64? Modern stuff to keep it cheap, and you don't feel too bad if it breaks at $40.
I've seen these at Target and stuff, and has just got me thinking of a Nintendo version of this.
>>320544606
It's a shame he crumbled and ended up apologizing. Should have told the feminazi retards to fuck off.
Congratulations modern feminism, forcing a man to apologize for wearing a funky shirt will surely go down in history as a major victory in the war against patriarchy.
>>320544032
I don't think you know what de facto means.
>>320545487
I think I do. There's no law preventing mobile from having physical controls (hence the xperia play) but it's the overwhelming practice.
>>320545132
id buy an n64 box if the controllers were durable
>game on cartridge
>no load times
>still big game
>game on disc
>big empty game
>load screen every time you enter a door
>>320546242
>no load times
I don't think you get how technology works.
>>320540509
if it's built the right way, a cart can add features to the console for the game. Like the superFX chip in starfox for example.
>>320540183
they aren't shooting their foot, they are taking a minigun to their legs
