Is Valve trolling? This champion is fucking ridiculous.
>champion
i know this is a bait thread, but please, its the third time i see the same exact thread with different description
just stop, do they pay you for this? im seriously curious
>>320431962
Arc warden isn't ridiculous. New faceless void is ridiculous.
there is literally nothing wrong with being able to use two hands of midas with super low cooldown.
>>320431962
here's a tip: he has very, very bad stats and no escape skill
do with that information what you will
>>320433872
he can purchase an escape skill faster than anyone
>>320431962
>champion
>>320433872
He doesn't need one. The Naga/Alch Radiance Manta is super strong on him and Double Midas he can not give a shit about a rough early game.
I think a right click build is better late late game, the double benefits fully from your damage so items are super strong especially with his ridiculous evasion/AS buff thing.
So it would be like BoTs2, Manta, Daed, Butterfly, Orctarine. Not in that order but a right click build is really good.
>>320431962
>>320432483
I just won 3 games straight, all with void and warden in the enemy team, at ~4500 mmr.
EZ WINZ
So who else is pissed that he's some generic edgelord lightning man instead of a cutie gnoll?
I know I've seen this guy before.
So who thought a 2000 range mine with 4 sec cooldown and spammable by 2 heroes was a good idea?
>>320435532
some guy from spiderman named rey mysterio or something
>MOBAshit
>>320435453
For years i called him Bark Warden because this version of him reminds me of a dog
>>320435690
Dota isn't a moba
>>320431962
What is his name again ?
>Massive nerf to a hero with ~10% pick rate and a sub 50% win rate for the majority of games
Why did they kill Huskar?
The front page looks kind of familiar.
>>320435690
This term is so retarted because
>Dota is a MOBA
>Smash is a MOBA
>Quake Live is a MOBA
>>320435730
I was gonna call you out on lying because he just came out in dota 1 in 6.75
Then I realized 6.75 was 3 years ago
>>320436281
Because it's purple?
>>320436281
>Both have purple as a main color, they're clearly exactly the same and valve copied the theme
Do you realize how dumb you sound?
>champion
he's a toon you mong
>>320436281
enchatress is cuter
>>320436748
>>320436807
Valve is doing the hero model on the front page thing with a try button like HotS does, which is fine because it looks good. Just thought it was funny.
You guys thought it was the color?
>>320436375
Honestly what I hate most about MOBA is that Dota only has two successors HON and Dota 2. Everything else is derived from the LoL lineage which is so completely different other than there being towers and an ancient. If MOBA applies to Awesomenauts, Dota, Smite and LoL it's as useless as the term RPG.
honestly this is why i'm wary of calling smash a fighting game too because the objective of getting a ring out vs reducing your opponent's health bar make for very different games
>>320436281
they also literally copied Doom's scepter ability from Diablo's fire waves
>>320436898
The biggest difference is that Arc Warden is completely free
>>320436898
No, I'm telling you the color is the only similarity here
>>320434530
i just saw a singsing match where he went that built and i started to get some opinion on why he got fucked even if he went lategame.
he's just difficult to make it work in a teamfight.
constant burning? great for a decent time window.
wraith spams? fall off greatly and is countered by having additional units(illusions primarily) walking around the teamfight.
with that build illusions won't hit hard at first and will get countered later. you have bad stats so they won't be good illusions.
your only big skill is a bigass long cooldown magnetic field which is ok but gets countered by MKB or actually stuning the carry you empowered.
you will be relatively squishy( to your network and role) and with no escape( your grav fields can be expended defensively but you miss out on them then).
you just want to sit at 1600 range from teamfight slowly doing burn wraiths and some attacks with illusios and clones. but everything is frail, you have no burst, you slowly buildup damage overtime and you will die when the enemy reach around and gets you because no escape.
radiance be praised you can disable blink so they might not be mobile enough to get you.
>>320436970
Shadow Fiends*
>>320436898
they've done that everytime... you can also try EVER hero.. that is why we thought you just meant the colour. Because you are an idiot.
>>320436975
That Zeus skin is like $40. Jesus Christ Arc Warden might be free but the jewery is still there.
>>320436917
There are fighting games where you can ring out people idiot.
>>320436898
>>320436975
R E K T
>>320437145
It's because cosmetics is the only way Dota 2 makes money, and that's fine.
But that's the real reason why new heroes take so long. Valve doesn't have a real incentive.
>we got arc warden
>instead of pit lord
>>320436375
do you also think Quake Live doesn't take strategy in real time? Do you think Final Fantasy 7 is a RPG even though you can't role play? Is there no action in a shoot em up?
>>320437154
Please list the ones where ring out is the only win condition in the standard rules.
A sumo fighting game I've never heard of maybe?
>>320436281
>a sphinctered fragment
stopped reading right there
>Try him
>Get silenced die everytime
>Pick DOOM and Techies
>Win everytime
It's good Icetoad
>>320437286
Valve also doesn't employ more people to work on Dota 2 and everybody at Valve just dicks around doing whatever they want whenever they want. It's lame. There isn't even a christmas event this year.
>>320432483
Is he? I only glanced at the patch notes but it looked like he got shit on. Did I miss something?
>>320437481
>techies
>win
wot?
>>320437301
A genre label should state either the most core feature of a genre or the one that makes it stand out versus other games. You don't call Quake an RTS because its first person shooting stands out more and is more core to how it plays, for example.
"Moba" doesn't even begin to do that, that's why it's a retarded term. Being multiplayer, online, or a "battle arena" are not even remotely close to what sets the games apart and defines them, it's the per-match progression, map pushing, presence of CPU units, etc.
>>320437292
Pit Lord is a shitty hero.
how will valve milk dota2 once they release all the heroes?
72mil$ to release those shitty ancients nobody cares about?
>>320437481
>Valve also doesn't employ more people to work on Dota 2 and everybody at Valve just dicks around doing whatever they want whenever they want.
This is the biggest patch in years. There wasn't much content over this year because they were busy with the Source 2 port.
>There isn't even a christmas event this year.
Do you really want another P2W hatfarming event? We have custom games now.
>>320436281
>Cenarious had a daughter
Holy shit
Imagine if she inherited even just a portion of his power
>>320437652
They'll keep making new heroes, just like they have been, except put them straight onto dota 2 rather than starting them on the warcraft map. There have been like half a dozen new heroes since Dota 2 came into the picture.
>>320437292
>tfw HotS gets Mannoroth before Dota gets Pit Lord
>>320431962
>THE BALANCE OF POWER
>>320437839
>THE """"""""BALANCE"""""""" OF POWER
>>320437608
You know why people call the genre mobas? because everyone else calls them mobas. Thats literally the only reason. Nobody cares about accuracy. You can use your more accurate term but if nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about, why bother?
>>320437652
They're going to introduce more heroes. Hope you enjoy the entire cast of TF2 in your dota
>>320437839
>>320437894
He has a 35% win rate right now :^)Dota players are so fucking dumb
>>320437960
I wasn't talking about arc warden you mong
>>320437929
I know why the term exists, you fucking retard. I was just replying to >>320437301. Is it really that fucking hard to just read the posts you're replying to?
>>320436917
I have a feeling that term Riot was somehow responsible for creating that term. It like they want to alienate themselves from everything else. DotA like changed into MOBA, ruining the game is trolling (I've seen this only in LoL), toxic community, champions and etc.
>>320437764
all of the dryads are Cenarius's daughters, just like all the Keepers of the Grove are his sons.
he got around
>>320437960
Wonder how long will it take for them to realize he should go mid then jungle
>>320433872
He is the ultimate rat.
I've seen him end two games that should've been lost due to him split pushing two lanes at once while building an army.
>>320438035
that's me
>has a perfect single target ganking skill
>one of the best fuck you spells in the game (100% miss chance to enemy team in AoE)
>another free nuke that has 2000 range
>ult allows him to double the nukes and team fuckery AND use almost any item in the game twice in quick succession and will be up for pretty much every team fight
>costs basically nothing as duplicate can use salves + mangos on original hero, healing health + mana cost almost instantly
>makes for a perfect ganking / support hero with permanent meks, arcanes, euls, sheeps etc.
>BUT TWO CLONES MEANS MORE DAMAGE
>double manta on a hero with fucking awful stats
>>320438056
That's exactly how the term came to be, they were doing everything they could to purge DotA out of everyone's awareness. They couldn't call it a dota map or say it was dota inspired or anything, so they shat our their own business term to use instead and 5 years later, everyone in the fucking world is using it.
Riot won and it's upsetting
>>320438056
Riot is responsible for creating that term. They also succeeded in popularizing it. Literally only Dotafags care that people use it because they don't want to associate themselves with League.
>>320436375
>>320435763
>le refusing to accept language face
>>320438231
because it would be retarded if you had the chance to coin a genre and decided to name it after one specific game, especially as a competitor TO THAT GAME
>>320438404
>le shitposting face
>>320436375
>Dota is an RPG
>Smash is an RPG
>Quake Live is an RPG
>tfw Arc Warden was responsible for Dota 2
>tfw Arc Warden now wants to destroy Dota 2
>>320437929
>because everyone else calls them mobas
I don't and some game devs I know don't either.
>Nobody cares about accuracy
Devs do especially when discussing mechanics or specific kinds of games. Accuracy is important in any kind of discussion really.
I don't think it would cause any confusion if someone were to refer to dota2 or HoN as dotalikes and referred to Smite as a moba due to similar stuff to LoL like AP scaling
>>320437045
He did 2 matches in a row. One where it won, the second game he almost won. Arc Warden will be insanely good on a team he works with, not one with PA and Pudge.
>>320437301
That term just applies to almost every multiplayer game, when it shouldn't, hell even ASSFAGGOTS as a term is closer by a definition to the games that everyone calls MOBAs
>>320438453
I'm not telling you they should have called it dota, I'm telling you they should have come up with a term that actually made any fucking sense
That Arcane rune can go straight to hell.
>>320438543
because why would a company want to refer to its fucking competitor all the time
do you think pepsi calls pepsi "a coke clone"
>>320437929
>because everyone else calls them mobas.
No, only the developers and community of LoL and LoL clones call them mobas.
Show me a game that's not a shameless LoL clone that calls itself a moba. You can't, because it doesn't exist.
>>320432410
Not him but the answer is yes.
Windranger players, how bad is the nerf to the angle of her shackleshot?
>>320438181
His damage is from maelstrom+manta/necro
The necros tradeoff is it does give the enemy gold if misused but he can still kill high HP people with relative ease aslong as the player rushes a hand of midas.
>>320438181
Since the illusion created by his ult shares 100% of stats and items you just build him like a regular agility carry and the game literally becomes a 5v6.
x2 Necrobooks, x2 Midas, x2 Sheep stick, x2 Ethereal Blade, x2 damage, x2 chance to crit, x2 Mantas making up for his bad stats with 4 illusions, x2 Da-ahahaha this is a wasted slot, don't double Dagon, x2 anything in his inventory, and twice the spells.
Zet is awesome as a support, a splitpusher, a core or a carry.
>>320438691
>do you think pepsi calls pepsi "a coke clone"
I know you're just shitposting but the fact that the term "cola" already existed nullifies this
Imagine if Coke came out, then Pepsi came out and decided that its type of soda was called "fizzy wizzy sippy wippy," then everyone started calling Coke fizzy wizzy sippy wippy instead of "cola" and called you an asshurt coke fanboy for not using the term
That's what's happening here
>>320438543
>>320438586
>>320438697
>blatantly ignoring the image
Dotafags truly are desperate
It's not even like people who played Allstars (and even fucking RoC DotA) called DotA's genre anything remotely close to ASSFAGGOT. It was called AoS. However no one knows what AoS is nowadays so they just coined a random term that was easy to repeat.
>>320437604
The new item gives spell range
Mines included.
>Phoenix is the result of a dying star
>Oracle can see and alter the future, as well as fragment reality
>Zet Warden existed before reality, even before literally God itself
>mfw Pit Lord is going to be some insanely powerful thing
dota and csgo are going to shit
i dont know whats going on at valve but its not looking good
>>320437929
>nobody should take an interest in classifying games
truly, this is the worst argument
>>320438181
he is pretty versitle m8
>>320431962
>>320438971
>blatantly ignoring the image
What do you think that image proves that I haven't addressed? Are you retarded?
>>320439037
you can go ahead and try
literally nothing will catch on and moba will continue to be the most used genre name for this type of game
>>320438181
/r/ a pics with text like this about Oracle and Juggernaut
I'm almost sure there's also one about Zet and Legion too
>>320438971
>>320438936
>>320438697
>>320438691
>>320438610
>>320438586
>>320438543
>>320438453
>>320439124
>not calling them Hero Brawlers
baka
>>320437608
Hence why Fortress Assault Game is the correct label.
>>320439124
that moba is the most popular term to refer to AoS-like games
but continue to be mad
>>320439004
Dota is better than ever m8
>>320438541
Wasn't Elder Titan the one who fucked everything up and made the Ancients start an infinite war?
>>320439004
The fuck are you talking about?
>>320439331
Please show me where I said it wasn't the most popular term
but continue to have nonexistent reading comprehension skills
>>320439096
>bot game
>>320439449
>No, only the developers and community of LoL and LoL clones call them mobas.
>>320439004
CSGO was never a priority for Valve, actually wasn't it's development outsourced to another studio?
>>320439520
I see you took my suggestion, because that comment doesn't say a fucking thing about popularity
I severely hope for your sake you're just baiting at this point
>>320438678
>Get it as any spam happy hero
>Zeus
You win lane right fucking then. That thing is fucking retarded.
>>320439604
CSGO was a collaboration with another company and now it has a team of like fifteen Valve devs working on it
Meanwhile the Dota team was last reported to have about seventy
>>320439520
But that is true
Dota players don't call Dota 2 a MOBA, and that's fine, because it doesn't follow after LoL and doesn't borrow from it's mechanics like SMITE or whatever do
>>320439749
glad I had this one ready
>>320439604
They helped a little for some time and fucked off to make Evolve or something else, I don't remember.
>>320438678
Personally not a fan of it considering they added an item for increased spell range and there's already items for that.
>>320439810
>only fans of a game are allowed to mark tags
ebin
>>320439742
70 people doing what??
>>320439716
>shitposting this hard just because he lost an argument
ooh poor dotababby mad that his game doesn't get as much recognition as the big bad league of legends?
>everyone talking about this nigga
>not picking Sniper
>not bulding Dragon Lance
>not enjoying hitting your enemies from 1345235 range
Also, i've been away from Dota 2 since like march, since then i only half-watched TI5, but this patch has me curious again, anyone mind telling me what's changed since then? Which heroes are now absolute shit that shouldn't be picked?
>>320439742
>about seventy
Old info.
>>320437597
Void new ability is basically a super silence and 6 second weaver timelapse
>>320439926
nice one
>>320437960
Earth Spirit had around that winrate when he first released
He's gotten nothing but nerfs since then and is maybe half the hero he used to be, and is still great
Its amazing how bad the majority of ASSFAGGOTS players are
>>320440012
The Source 2 port, the team is probably a bit smaller now
Makes sense, CSGO never gets any notable update while Dota 2 gets some about every two months
How the fuck am I supposed to counter Arc Warden with a level 3 Necronomicon?
>>320440080
>blink
>>320440017
>I have no ability to back myself up so I'll just pretend you refuting the point is shitposting
Thanks for admitting you were wrong, I always appreciate when people make it this easy
Please feel free to make a rebuttal any time, I'll be waiting
>>320439749
>he's actually this delusional
>he's not even pretending
>>320440321
but if you wanna call DotA ASSFAGGOT, im fine with that too
So is Void and Riki kill now?
>>320440128
>community spends entire year complaining about backtrack
>"fine we'll remove it"
>put in a fucking OP ult-tier ability in it's place and a mini-timelapse on Void Walk
>>320440536
At least it's not RNG anymore
Also he no longer backtrack fatal stuff
>>320440474
>third party source who regularly reports on LoL
>still has nothing to do with anything
Usage defines diction.
>>320440450
>he's just shitposting instead of actually refuting anything or defending himself
>>320440536
>Enemy Lina shit-talks that I can't backtrack her ult anymore
>Q jump it on 3 separate occasions
HA HA HA HA HA
>>320431962
>low health
>get one shotted
lmao noobs get good
So where's my fucking winter map?
>>320440637
You can also argue that the silence is only a reactive thing, so you still have the opportunity to burst him before he silences you
I'm way more scared of Void Walk, he has basically Timelapse but he can choose to where he goes
>>320440925
this desu valve
>>320440925
>>320440994
>valve development is so slow and lazy they delivered the desert map a full season late
>>320440309
How can you blink dagger away if he is constantly hitting you?
>maybe we should buff Ice Path or Macropyre
>fuck that, give him 7 more damage
There's literally no reason to have more than 1 point in Ice Path. get it before level 4 and use your 400 damage DoT instead.
>>320441194
>blink away and die
>or blink to him and kill him
i dunno senpai
>>320440925
>>320440994
Australians already have their winter map, sorry you missed out
>>320438453
the genre was known as "AoS" in the WC3 age, and it's still referred to it as that in Korea.
>>320441351
How can you blink to him if he is constantly hitting you and slowing you with shrapnel?
>>320441492
they need to make more fucking terrain items, this one was good. Just turn the chinese new year and winter map into a terrain item so we can use them year round
>tfw Koreans fell for the LoL meme and will never kill DotA because of it
>>320442112
What do you mean? Dota 2 is dead as fuck in the Korean scene and will before a long time, unless Riot especially fucks up big time. But all they need to do is release a new waifu to fix everything.
>ogre magi got even better sustain
>that cast range extending item
ICEFROG YOU GENIUS
>>320440142
Oct core working o charge is a huge buff right there
>>320442569
ANOTHA ONE
AND ANOTHA
>OoV and a ring of regen
>build into lens for huge range fireblasts that do a bit more damage
Based chillytoad
>>320442437
that's what he's saying
Koreans are too into LoL to get into Dota 2 and ruin the scene
>>320442112
>Dota 2 is dead as fuck in the Korean scene
That's my point. Koreans will never kill DotA because they're too busy killing LoL. Riot's pretty hilarious considering they're trying as hard as they can to kill LoL in Korea so they can keep the illusion of esports regions being equal going, even though every LoL world championship just shows the skillgap between Korea and the rest of the world is only widening.
SC2 lost the majority of its esports fanbase when koreans took over the scene. LoL will have the exact same thing happen to them.
>>320442582
That's true actually
Still nothing compared to not being able to pull allies without stoning them, but it'll make his aggressive game more sustainable in successive teamfights
Good change overall
>people begging for region lock back in 2012
>nearly 4 years later still no region lock
There's no russians playing on US servers but holy fucking shit the peruvian plague is exactly the same. I like to play with my Euro friends but I'd rather have people who can speak more english than "ez mid"
>>320442909
Nah, you'll thank NA for that. NA scene is Dota is dead and openly mocked. So why not move to a scene wear you're still part of a majority?
>no qt gnoll character
>no qt gnoll art will be spawned as a result of this
>>320443170
>Region locking would solve a million problems
>They do everything but
I hate that fucking company.
>>320442909
Didn't the separate the pools so Koreans don't play against other countries? Cause I remember having a sincere laugh that they have to keep NA in the kiddie pool so it looks like an e-sport.
>>320443170
>Wanting to restrict an online game
>>320443170
>>320443487
>Valve introducing features that aren't cosmetics or balancing
>>320442909
>he thinks Korea being gods at SC2 was the reason it's dead
Shaking my head to be honest family
>>320431962
lmao2midas
>>320443651
I want to restrict them dirty spanish speaking fucktards who throw games, yes.
I've got no real issue with the chinks on US servers since they don't get asshurt and feed.
>>320440080
believe it or not but dragon lance is pretty shit on sniper, smal stat bonus + strength on agi hero
its not as good as anyone would like.
>>320443875
it's mostly a transition item. You can break it down into a bkb.
Game is literally unplayable now. Fuck this.
>>320443745
Is that Quinn? Her rack looks pretty great there.
>>320442569
>already has huge armor and big hp regen
>LETS GIVE HIM MORE
>int hero
>>320443850
They should just make it so that if someone's on an english server, but completely refuses to speak any form of english, then they should be region locked.
/v/ was full of dotafags.
I hate this place.
>>320443980
>Not buying an item that reverts him back to being one of the best supports in the fucking game
>An item that has everything he could want, mana, more hp regen so he's unkillable early, and FUCKING RANGE TO HIS SPELLS
Jesus you are retarded.
>>320443875
yeah, but i play pubs and never buy bkb.
>>320439387
The Ancients were beings that existed before the universe. Radiant and Dire were locked in conflict because of reasons and Zet, the same type of being as the Radiant and Dire, had had enough of their shit, so he locked them up in the Mad Moon.
The titans didn't have anything to do with that, but they created the worlds and did a lot of the sculpting of reality. ET fucked something up but the lore is super vague as to what. It's possible he damaged the prison holding in Radiant and Dire, which eventually led to them breaking free, but that's all speculation.
>>320444152
I'm sorry for playing video games
I stopped playing a year ago, should I jump back into it?
>>320444457
I just jumped back in myself to see how it is.No.
>>320432483
How do you fucking play this shit? Do you build standard PT+MoM and then Blink? Do you max E or Q first? I can't get a hold on this piece of crap
>>320443745
>that hair
>those tattoos
>those piercings
>those nails
jesus christ what a trainwreck of an appearance
>>320444457
I started playing again a month ago after a few year break.
It's still as addicting and frustrating as before; only this time instead of being angry at russians I'm angry at peruvians.Stay away, it's exactly like /v/
>>320437929
>Not using the correct and commonly used term
>>320444457
The patch turned dota 2 into league of lesbians, no.
>>320444747
She's got a nice rack tho.
>>320444457Na.
>>320444947
>>>/d2g/
Your memes and avatarfagging don't belong here
>>320444457
If you miss playing Dota then yes. If you don't, then no. IceFrog has added some new items and Valve got around to porting a couple heroes but it's not like they've fundamentally changed the game. You already know what it's like.
>>320436281
What went wrong?
>tfw i like >>320445037 more than >>320444457
why dick
>>320445245
ActiBlizzard.
>>320445245
you don't get automatically put in the chat channels, and Dota's skins are real money only too
Just remember that no matter how much of a MADMAN he is, he cannot make it as bad as Guinsoo DotA was.
Sweet fuck Guinsoo DotA is like a Vietnam flashback at this point.
>>320445492
You can trade and get Dota skins for free randomly by just playing the game.
>>320445612
>Dota players love RNG so much that even their skins are RNG
lmao
>>320445612
You can't trade or market drops anymore; only uncased skins.
They also removed keys so you can't trade those for items you want either; valve crippled the trading community and they continue to do so with all of these waits.
Buy an item off the market? 7day wait to sell or trade it. 3 day wait to trade it after confirmation, too.
>>320445779
Better than being cuckolded by jews for everything from skins to characters.
>>320445612
not anymore
>>320446012
What are you talking about? Some guy I was playing with last night got a kunkka set after the game ended
>>320446195
And he can't trade or sell it. He can only gift it if he chooses not to use it himself.
>>320431962
He's cutielewd when
>>320446195
You can't trade/sell those. Only gift them once to a buddy
>>320446286
>>320446332
And how does any of that change the fact that you're getting cosmetics for free?
>>320444947
>WAHH THE GAME IS LOL NOW
>nothing changes
>game is no more like LoL
Like fucking clockwork, every patch
>>320446648
It changes the fact you cannot trade them, you goal post shifting fagtron.
You can get skins for free, but not the ones you want.
>>320446648
>the end result of randomly getting skins is different from grinding in game currency to pay for them
Where did all these Blizzdrones come from?
>>320446802
>you goal post shifting fagtron.
You're the only one shift goalposts you fucking retard, because the original post just claimed that dota's skins were cash only.
Reading really can't be this hard
>>320446924
>grinding in game currency to pay for them
You can't do this in HotS, cash only
>>320431962
ASSFAGS
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>>320447086
>>grinding in game currency to pay for them
>You can't do this in HotS, cash only
except the 10k gold master skins exist and usually look better than the paid skins
>>320447086
I'm not the original anon, dickwagon.
The only way you can get skins in dota 2 that you actually want is through someone paying money; simply getting an item that's untradeable for a hero you do not like or want to play as is not the same as grinding up points to trade in for a skin you want.
You need to understand dota 2 has a hero pool of over 100, and you get individual pieces and very rarely a full set.
>>320440536
>riki's blink ability being spammed is overpowered
>volvo pls fix
>fine, here, now he has sleight of fist, and we combined invisibility with backstab and gave him blink strike too
>laughing all the way to the bank when they release riki skins
they did it with the r8
>>320447308
>I'm not the original anon, dickwagon.
Then why are you posting? Why insert yourself into an existing conversation and expect people to be talking about something else?
>The only way you can get skins in dota 2 that you actually want is through someone paying money; simply getting an item that's untradeable for a hero you do not like or want to play as is not the same as grinding up points to trade in for a skin you want.
>You need to understand dota 2 has a hero pool of over 100, and you get individual pieces and very rarely a full set.
This has nothing to do with the point
>>320447329
Riki was god awful and he is still god awful
>>320447280
No they don't and you know it.
>>320435991
Because he's near 60% in higher brackets. Just because scrubs can't use him doesn't mean he should be imba for pros
>>320447329
Riki has never been overpowered above trench tier mmr.
This is, and was intended to be, a buff to try to make him useful at skill levels where players know how to buy dust
Reading Arc Warden's kit I have no clue what to do with this hero.
Some OG dotafag help me out here
>>320447746
Not him, but a couple of them do look really good. See: nova
Some are bad. See: kerri
>>320436281
Why does blizzard keep making up characters for hots? They have literally thousands of preestablished characters to pick from, fucking nigger cocks
>>320443980
>>320442569
Except you're forgetting that Ogre is useless outside of lane.
You honestly would need to get frequent x3 / x4 multi-casts to stay as relevant as other supports.
>>320448280
lmao2dagon
>>320448280
The best move seems to be Midas into. Manta Style, Refresher, Daedalus or just get a Daegon lvl 5, Scythe of vyse and have 3 nukes and 3 Piggie disables
>>320447329
>techies being played in comp and making pro players cry
>valv--
Wait, nevermind.
>>320448280
Midas, necrobook, manta unless the disjoint/dispel is completely useless, refresher, probably octarine core somewhere
Splitpush like an even more frustrating Naga
>tfw offlaner
>tfw play strength melee heroes
>all are trash except Bristle, Centaur and DK now
>>320448280
Saw a stream earlier where SingSing just went early midas into goodnaga, so try that
Do you like arc warden's concept model more then his official one?
>>320448813
>who is Clockwork, Dark Seer and Earthshaker
>>320449185
still would have been hotter than the official one
>>320449237
>Falls off in my trash bracket
>fair point
>ES solo offlane u wot
>>320445245
Nothing
HotS is actually fun and not full of raging third worlders and worst of all /v/
>>320449494
>ES solo offlane u wot
It's always funny seeing the disparity of knowledge between /v/ and /d2g/ when discussing Dota.
Earthshaker has been a popular pos 3 solo offlane in competitive for quite a while now.
Also, a good Clock should completely rek trash brackets.
>>320438404
Well yeah, some changes should be fought, like the many morons using literally incorrectly.
There's a difference between a neologism and being a straight up retard.
Batrider is a viable solo offlane now, right?
>>320449185
I think he's pretty cool looking, but the concept is really neat too. They should use it for a brand new hero.
>>320449185
Concepts are always great, the thing is that not all concepts can translate the same way into the game.
>>320445245
theyre doing a shitty job trying to compete with league and dota
and they have other games which people would rather would rather play overwatch than HoTs
>>320449518
HotS is shallow P2W garbage. It makes LoL look good.
>>320449494
>Clock
>falls off in trash bracket
Unless shit has changed a lot since I quit, he's a top tier character for styling on scrubs
So many free kills on people that don't know how to position themselves or look at the map, or that let you just walk up to them in lane and cog them in with battery assault up, and then attack you and aggro a whole lane of creeps
>>320449185
The only thing I really don't like about his official model is the stupid bubble helmet thing. The cape and electric limbs and gloves and stuff is fine.
I still think he should have been a gnoll with a lightning flail though
>>320450387
I don't know about that. I think it's pretty bad, but some of its hero concepts contain more originality than most of LoL's roster combined. It's a very casual game, I think that's intended, and there's nothing with that - HotS is bad because the spells have low impact; overall everything feels weak and dull. LoL on the other hand is a casual, low skill ceiling game trying really hard to be competitive, and in the end it's a game made for tryhard shitters, that is neither fun casually nor more seriously.
>>320448280
Go mid. Get kills. Get Midas.
At this point you can now get pretty much anything you want. Not because you should, but because you can afford it.
>>320439096
>not using magnetic field to increase dps
>>320450618
>or that let you just walk up to them in lane and cog them in with battery assault up
My friend and I accidently ran a Juggernaut/Clock lane. He was cackling the entire time and I was screaming about how bad we are to be playing at a level where this actually works since the counterplay is JUST WALK AWAY NIGGA. JUG AND CLOCK ARE WALKING INTO YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN SHIT
>>320437839
>MFW NOONE KNOWS HOW FUCKING STRONG OOV ON ANTIMAGE IS
>MFW NO FACE
>>320444951
corset/spanx, push-up
>>320448556
>useless outside of lane
>incredible no missle ranged stun that can deal a fuckload of damage if he's skillful
>has a nice slow too
>almost everything is pathable now so his melee drawbacks aren't as bad
>can buy bottle from sideshop
Guess what else? Lone Druid is fucking strong right now, and you know who combos well with him? Ogre Magi and his Bloodlust
>>320449185
Yeah lighting morphling!
>>320431962
>tfw hopping around as new Void
>that new skill that fucks casters/supports
>>320442112
Really fucked up of Riot of preying on grieving people like that.
Havnt played ina while but I looked at outworlds notes
Seriously, what the fuck. he is literally fucking useless now
>>320447329
>Permanent invis and bonus damage at level one
>Blink strike at level 2
he's a great lane-harasser like BH now
but honestly his ult is garbage and needs to be affected by his attack speed or something
>>320451753
Hero is too reliant on RNG for Fireblast and Ignite drops off very quickly.
Bloodlust is his only consistent / reliable spell.
>>320451753
even during 6.84 I loved picking LD with Ogre. Bloodlust and a single MoM on the bear meant a tower died, no matter what. I'm glad Sylla got some love this patch, he's one of my favorite heroesdouble book with hotd catapult is too fucking fun
>>320448280
Midas is common, but really anything is good on him. Hex, Octa, Manta, Rad. He's kinda WR-tier until late game when he becomes a pseudo Tinker.
>>320452274
The trick to Ogre is making a roving band of catapults and bloodlusting them.
>>320448026
>Riki has never been overpowered above trench tier mmr.
He has a 55% winrate in VHS ranked.
>>320449494
>falls off
>Hookshot on their carry is nearly a guarenteed kill if they don't have a force staff and he has no bkb
