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I mean, yay for Bayonetta, but Jesus fucking Christ what a goddamn
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I mean, yay for Bayonetta, but Jesus fucking Christ what a goddamn letdown. I feel like throwing up. Fuck you Sakurai, you bias fuck.
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Bias for nintendo instead of microsoft? Who would've known?
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ANIME WAS A MISTAKE
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You're Western-made non popular in japan Grizzly never had a chance

plus Duck Hunt does his shtick.
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>Bayonetta most popular "realizable"
>They don't post ballot results

Shit was fixed. Votes didn't mean dick.
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>>320295495
They said Bayonetta was the number one NEGOTIABLE option.
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>>320295495
>MUH DEAD FURRY NOSTALGIA FRANCHISE

Kill yourself
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>>320296058
>Wanting Banjo for Smash is bad
>When there are like, 3-4 Marth clones
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LOL
O
L

BTFO BY ANIME SWORDS AND FAP MATERIAL
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>>320295495
But OP, B-K are already in Smash.
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Corin is cool though. Don't like it don't buy it.
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Wait for Smash 5.
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>>320295495
>being this upset
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I feel like that was going to happen no matter what, really.

It was literally a popularity contest, and all of the most popular characters have really passionate fanbases. Someone was going to be disappointed no matter what
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>western trash
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>>320296423
I still have to play against them though
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>another Fire emblem character
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>>320295495
>Non-japanese character
>In MY Sumasshu Burazasu?
Ayyy lmao desu
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Banjo is shit
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Personally I think that all the new characters seem fun to play. All the stages seem cool, The content doesn't make the experience worse in any way.
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>>320296058

banjo-kazooie is more popular there than bayonetta you dense fuck
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Cloud and Bayonetta aside, who the fuck is this FE character?

Another FE character on top of a hefty amount of anime sword wielding fuckbois. He looks like Robin wearing silver armor.

So we have 2 Marths, 2 Roys and now 2 Robins. Fucking enough.
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>character owned by a rival corporation
>character has not been relevant in years
>obsessive fanbase
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>Cloud
"Oh this is going to be TIGHT! I can't wait to see what else Master Sakurai has for us!"

>Corrin
"Fucking Hackurai."

>Bayonetta
"This doesn't fix the fact that you added ANOTHER FE REP"
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He really is a hack but at least we got Bayo
>>320296058
>you're
>family guy reaction image
Wow what a homo
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>>320296646
i'm fine with another fire emblem character, as long as they bring new shit to the series

another swordsmin, though
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>>320295495
Only idiots thought that a Microsoft character would come to SSB4
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>>320296058

Because bird+mammal duo is a shtick while we clearly needed another swordsman with counter to balance out the roster.
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>>320295848
/thread
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>>320296982
Literal marketing for the next game
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>>320295495
They have the fucking ugliest design. Jesus Christ.
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>>320296982
I love the butthurt over corin. Get cucked, kiddo
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Meh only the most austistic faggots out there though Banjo-Kazooie had a shot Duck Hunt should have been a clear indication of that.

Also I actually voted for Bayonetta, so I can't complain.
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>>320297101
>>character has not been relevant in years
So like most of Smash characters?
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>>320297114
Another swordsman with a fucking counter.
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>>320297139
>b-b-but phil spencer said he was okay with it why would he say that a bloo bloo bloo

people are so fucking delusional
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Microsoft would just plague a potential B&K character with vehicular combat.
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>>320297139
This.

Its exactly like Sackboy turning up, Phil might be okay with it but Nintendo will NOT work with any rivals
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>>320297101
>porn witch isn't populated with an obsessive fanbase
>dead as shit franchise
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>implying MS would let Nintendo use Banjo

He said Bayonetta ranked no1 out of characters they were actually allowed to use through negotiations
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>>320296265
>Bayonetta most popular "realizable"
>They don't post ballot results
Because evidently autists voted for things like Goku or Master Chief.
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>>320296058
>stewie pipe.jpg

You have to be over 18 to post here.
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Sakurai didn't want them in because he couldn't work out how to give them a counter.
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>>320295495
Not to talk
>people actually believed Rare Replay would come to the Wii U
KEK
E
K

wew
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>>320296265
>>320296334
Microsoft was willing to play ball with Banjo though.
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>>320295495
Not a negotiable character anon.

Microsoft is to blame.
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>>320297559
MS seriously would let Nintendo use them though, several big execs said they were okay with working with Nintendo

Its because

1. Not popular in Japan
2. Nintendo wont work with competition
3. Demand for other characters might be higher
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THE CHARACTER THEY FUCKING SOLD
THE WESTERN CHARACTER THEY FUCKING SOLD
AND YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOTS HONESTLY EVEN *EXPECTED*
MOTHERFUCKING
NINTENDO
TO KNOW MICROSOFT'S DOOR AND SAY
O-Oh yeah can I get that back for a while~?

FUCK YOU

TATAKAE SAKURAI
DON'T GIVE UP SAKURAI
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>>320297559
One of the Microsoft execs was openly stating they'd let them use Banjo if they asked.
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>>320296334
Both Phil Spencer and Rare said they would've happily allowed Banjo in Smash.
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>>320295495

WHY YOU MAD THO
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>>320297421
DELETE THIS
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>>320297559
If Phil Spencer says hes okay with it, he literally is okay with it, he's in charge of the entire MS gaming division.

He could make an FPS starring Clippy as the main character if he wanted to tomorrow, the only person who can object is Satya Nadella
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I've been a huge Nintendo and Smash fanboy my entire life and even I can't deny that that was one of the worst blunders in all of my life playing video games. Like... Another fucking Fire Emblem character? What the fuck? Baynoetta "wins" the ballot? Are you fucking kidding me? Should have known that Sakurai would add an asterisk in there at some point so that he could develop the character he wanted to develop.

What an absolute, gigantic, whopping, massive let down. Good work, Sakurai. You've outdone yourself this time.
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>>320297945
>>320297871
Of course MS would be OK with it, they would be the ones profiting from the whole thing.
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Oh boy another retard on the internet who doesn't know that having a bias makes you BIASED.
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>>320298032
Neither of those have the final say in anything. The higher ups probably refused to let him be added unless they ported Smash to Xbox.
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>>320298435
LOL it would be peanuts for Microsoft.

They are profiting a lot more from Minecraft on the Wii U.
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Can someone tell me whats happening with Banjo Kazooie? whats with the posts?

I don't visit /v/ often.
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>>320298464
>Phil Spencer doesn't have the final say in anything

Yes he absolutely does get to say who and what uses their gaming IP's

The only thing he's not in charge of is Windows, Surface Pro's, Outlook, Lumia or whatever
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>>320298859
Go back to the board you came from. It's much better for your health.
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>>320298464
if its something to do with games, phil does yeah

theres a hierarchy of the highest execs who are entrusted with certain things, phil is one of them, terry myersons on windows, that bieber stallone looking guy is in charge of phones, panos panay on hardware etc. etc.

phils in charge of the games, unless nadella goes up to him and screams in a weird indian voice "goodness gracious on ganesh's name I hate banjo kazooie you cannot do this" then the balls in nintendos court
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>Microsoft execs saying that they'd be open to Banjo being in Smash
>Phil Spencer even telling people to vote for Banjo
>People calling others retards for thinking it was possible
It was entirely possible, and it was pretty believable too, Nintendo's just bias against everyone who isn't Japanese.
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>>320299378
>bieber stallone looking guy

I own a Lumia and know exactly who you mean.
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>>320296646
Then punish them. Or are you too much of a scrub?
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>>320299489
A businessman lied for publicity?
Impossible.
Also Microsoft's opinion a shit, this is a Nintendo game.
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>>320295495
BTFO to the Banjo supporters who were seriously deluded enough to believe that Nintendo was willing to put a western 1st party IP from Microsoft into the game.
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Why the fuck would Nintendo want to negotiate a deal with Microsoft, and especially with Rare after years of bullshit, the whole Goldeneye ordeal and just damn near 10 years of dead IPs. Putting Banjo in right now and basically just giving Microshit a free pass and free advertising is fucking stupid. Niggas dont know about business.
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>>320297827
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No Sora I'm salty as fuck.
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>>320300464
>in a GBA racing game
You forgot that, Phil-kun
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>>320300398
literally the most retarded post in this thread
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>>320300620
It's frustrating fags like you are old enough to post here.
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>>320300202
He's got genuinely no reason to lie though, hes always been blunt.

If somethings possible or happening, he's always said so, if somethings not happening or its impossible, hes always said so
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>>320299489
>North Korea said they'd be fine with South Korea re-joining them.
>North Korea pushing for reunification
Just because one party pushes for something doesn't mean it's likely, especially when it only favors one side. People are calling you retards for good reason.
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>>320300784
You do know that the majority of the fanbase of Kingdom Hearts is 17+ right?
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>he literally believes Japan would taint their master piece games folded 10000 times with pig disgusting western shit
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>>320300464
>people thinking it's Microsoft being the problem
>It's actually Nintendo making negotiation so difficult
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>people genuinely believe phil spencer's twitter account

He's fishing for good will.

Only a childish manbaby nintendrone would even seriously believe that they would let a character go to a direct competitor.
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>>320300202
its literally just because Banjos a western character, that was the only obstacle, there's no conspiracy from MS

Bayonetta was the most voted in Europe, but shes also created by Japanese people and has a Japanese audience

Banjo does not, MS was okay with it, Nintendo might've been as well, but in the end which one will make the most marketing sense for Nintendo? Its mostly their decision.
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>>320300202
What publicity?

>Vote for this character that hasn't had a good game in 13 years, won't have one any time soon, and will be on a different console!
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>>320301246
That's what's frightening. How can you like such shitty games while being older than 12 ?
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>>320301328
They were also the reason we couldn't have Goldeneye HD.
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>>320301364
If Phil was fishing for good will, he wouldn't deny the existence of things like a Conker sequel and a MechAssault sequel, nobodys just saying shit willy nilly online to get a few thumbs up
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>>320301465
this

japs are too proud of "MUH JAPANESE SUPERIORITY" to accept to include a western-made character
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>>320301597
Who knows, story is confusing as fuck and honestly not worth anything, I guess people like pressing buttons till things die? Humans are easily amused.
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>>320301668
To be honest it was a shit deal Nintendo got offered and anyone in their right mind would have turned it down.

But that doesn't make it any less better.
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THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-HvJpJ1TFU
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>>320301364
Microsoft are publishing Minecraft for Nintendo. Weird that, innit? They could've split the profits for Banjo.
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>>320302129
Why was it a shit deal?
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>Nintendo notices Phil's tweet
>contacts phil in his golden pyramid through one of his many messenger slaves
>decides to calmly negotiate banjo in smash
>"we would only, kindly ask that all Wii U games are ported to xbox one, nintendo ownership is transferred to microsoft, and that nintendo starts work on blinx 3 immediately"
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>>320300464
>Worked with Nintendo on Rare IP before
Yeah, on the handheld market that Microsoft isn't competing in and re-releasing old Nintendo owned titles created by Rare (with Rare characters removed ala DKR:DS).

Nintendo themselves utilizing a Rare IP on the console market for a new title is a completely different ballgame.
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>>320300464
He said it "would be cool" and that's that. They should've known better from the moment Duck Hunt came to be Banjo-Kazooie on Smash was dead.
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>>320302337
Microsoft get a HD port complete, upgraded visuals, option to switch to old graphics anytime, online multiplayer, good framerate.

Nintendo get the N64 ROM like all their VC games.
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The N64 fanbase is truly one of the most sickening, corrupt things on modern /v/.
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>>320302669
nice shitpost family
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>>320302129

>Rare VC games
>Remake would published as a disc game on Wii
>MS would port some games like Viva Pinata to Wii
>"Bad deal"

ok senpai

>>320302758

It was going to be released on Wii and Activision already contracted Eurocom to do the port instead of a VC version. When the deal fell through, it was turned into the remake
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>>320302758
So just like the other VC games on the Wii.

We didn't got a Ocarina of Time HD port either.
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>>320302758
That wasn't the deal. It would've been published on both platforms. Phil said several times that he tried to make the deal happen. I'm guessing Nintendo are just difficult to work with.
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>>320297216
wonderful, it's not like we had 8 counters al-fucking-ready. why not add 2 more? make one an AOE and another a Slow, call them UNIQUE
yeah because we need 1/5th of the roster to have counters
literally 10 characters have this same goddamn move now
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>>320302945
>post promotes sense and reason in a smash thread of all places
>NUH UH SHITPOSTING!

This guy is literally just trying to be as "in touch" and cool with the gaming industry as he can after Microsoft's massive fuck up in 2013.

Hence why he always sucks up to the gaming industry, "friends at sony", etc.

Anyone taking him seriously is a complete moron, although that's really to be expected of the likes that seriously care about shitty, outdated, platforming characters from the 1990's
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>>320301364
Not even Nintendrones, I think it's just xbots because their characters are a bunch of nobodies unlike Nintendo or Sony's, the only one worthy is Master Chief and that's it.
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>>320303431
yeah man

cant get enough of

fat princess

and

cole

theyre like

the mickey mouse of gaming
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>>320303431
Master Chief, Jago, Marcus Fenix, Banjo and now Ori etc. are infinitely more remarkable than a fucking man in jeans and a brown sack, thanks.
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>>320298718
how the fuck do you think characters are licensed?

look at it this way:

to get banjo in smash, nintendo would have to fucking pay MS to use their character, a character they used to own and now don't, only to have it advertise a competitor's game (rare replay)

what part of that makes sense to anyone, i don't really understand. it's not only insulting, but deluded. it's why banjo doesnt even show up as a costume
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>>320303027
>>320303242
Yes it was, have you seen any of the gameplay footage and pictures? Rare created a port running at 60fps and could never release it because of the deal falling through.
The Wii couldn't handle HD games so they were only able to take the VC game.

The deal fell through so Activision said fuck it we'll make our own version.

>>320303068
Which is a closed market so Nintendo doesn't care about making one. But no one would buy their version if you could get a better one on the Xbox.
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>>320303787
Meh, Banjo wasn't even from MS originally and from those Master Chief is the only one noteworthy he isn't wrong about that.
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>>320296412
Huh, never actually thought of it that way, they probably would have very similar movesets.

>shitting out eggs instead of barrels
>flying around with Kazooie
>spawn Mumbo and Bottles instead of cowboys

Still though it'd be cool to have an alternate attack thing (or Final Smash) having Mumbo transform them into different things like the armored car or washing machine.
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>>320303431
Who the fuck is "somebody" at Sony?!
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>>320304416
Where have you been anon?
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>>320304608
Kratos and Nathan Drake, that's already more than MS.
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>>320296412
This is the worst "counter argument".
Would apply to Luigi any FE character, Dark Pit.
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>>320304743
Duck-Hunt platformer for the Wii U or NX when?

I'd play the fuck out of that
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>>320304889
hahahahaha
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>>320304889

>Russian meme man is the face of playstation

kek
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>>320303431
>sony

what
did you see Playstation All-Stars? it was the most pisspoor roster in any game I've ever seen, its now infamously (lol) bad
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>>320304889
>Kratos and Nathan Drake

>more recognisable than Master Chief
>more recognisable than Steve
>more recognisable than Banjo
>more recognisable than Marcus Fenix

theyre not even as well known as clippy

if you said Crash you'd have a point but Activision
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>>320305368
Directed by Sakurai to booth.
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>>320305932
Banjo is only remembered by some nostalgiafags out there, the majority of the people would't be able to tell from which games are Steve or Macus Fenix, sad considering many people who don't even game know the game Steve is originary from, but it's what it is.
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>>320305932
Nathan Drake is literally more recognizable than Banjo, Steve, and Marcus Fenix
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>>320307704
>Nathan Drake is more recognisable than the minecraft guy

WHAT
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>>320308183
Nobody knows who the name of the Minecraft guy is really. The majority of the people don't even know he has a name.
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>>320308183
oh I guess not
>>320308309
I literally had no idea who it was
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>>320308309
out of the genuine world population, you genuinely believe people will recognise uncharted more than minecraft

like serious
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>>320308485
not a lot but still more regonizable and then again Minecraft became a MS property(?) recently so yeah, Master Chief is the only one that's relevant.
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