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already done? didn't nomura just started working on it after e3?
wtf.
People paid money to play the FFXV demo.
People will pay money for this too.
It will end when you escape Midgar.
>>320229652
Where did you get that information? Lol
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Doesn't that just mean the story
>>320229510
By main scenario, don't they mean they figured out what plot points they are going to hit and where this part is ending? Shouldn't they have figured that out a while ago?
>>320229510
>Rushed
You know that it's only going to be like 6 hours of gameplay, right?
>>320229845
>>320229856
PART ONE IS FINISHED AND IS READY TO SHIP!
ENJOY YOUR SHOVELWARE, BOIS!
>>320229759
he had an interview after the announcement of ff7
Square Enix and Telltale Games presents: Final Fantasy 7
1: Midgar
2: Kalm to Junon
3: Costa del Sol to Cosmo Canyon
4: Nibelheim to Rocket Town and Wutai
5: Temple of the Ancients to Aeris' death
6: Icicle Inn to Crater
7: Escape from Junon and Search for Cloud
8: The search for the Huge Materia and return of Cloud
9: Diamond Weapon and the Midgar Raid
10: The Final Battle with Sephiroth
Each episode 5-10 hours (full game by 2015 standards) of on-rails padded-out cutscene hallways with no sidequests, exploration, secrets or access to other episode content, culminating in "To be continued" cliffhangers. $20-30 each, 1 episode per year. Please look forward to it.
>>320229972
11: the final battle with sephiroth part 2
Main scenario is done. On a remake. So they've typed out the story for first part of a game where they already know the story. What's special here?
>>320229510
Square are so confused about the "process" of their games. Its like they cant properly schedule their shit and make announcements about the process of it every 2 weeks.
>>320229972
Fucking pathetic
>>320229972
>mfw Materia can only be leveled up by spending Midgar-Coins purchased from the in game store with real money
DEFEND THIS, FAGGOTS???
I wasn't following any of this, but are they really splitting the game up into parts? I thought it was just a dumb joke.
>>320230263
its not a joke. its very very real
HOLY SHIT it's just going to be the bombing mission HOLY SHIT there's going to be 20+ $59.99 episodes of this garbage HA HA HA HA
>>320230252
Okay. It's not going to happen. Stop being a fucking retard. I could have gone
>mfw the combat system is entirely removed and it's just hours upon hours of bad opera singing and cutscenes
How can you possibly release an RPG in episodes.
People will finish their first episode and overlevel their characters to high heavens until the next comes out. Or they will just stack on potions and whatever item by farming gil.
It's dumb as shit. How will they prevent this? Capping levels to episodes? Fucking awful.
I'm gonna laugh if these get priced at $60-70
This game is going to be so shit, like hot damn.
If I would be a classic FF7-fan, I'd have a brain aneurysm by now.
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>>320230365
Anon renember each episode is like a full gamemotherfuckers
>>320229950
>That'll be 59.99 for part one please
>>320230460
>Each episode is a full game
>Every episode will have you level and obtain characters from scratch
Ayy lmao
>>320230539plus tip
>>320230450
I don't CARE about FFVII! I never got past the chocobo races fucking years ago and I wasn't all invested then either! If this project didn't have any announcements it would be "Dead" since it has them it's "Rushed" there's no middle ground. Just let the fucking thing come out in 15 episodes and fucking get it over with!
>>320229510
>one scenario
>one fraction of the first part of a multi part series is complete
how is this a surprise to any of you
retards
They said "The scenario is done" given this is a remake of a game released over 10 years ago, I'd be worried if the scenario wasn't done!
>hey we are doing a remake
>we are done writing the script!
so they are ruining the story too
>>320230609
>>320230743
>given this is a remake of a game released over 10 years ago
anon this game is fucking 20 years old
>Gold Saucer Pack - Access to all Gold Saucer games any time you want. Comes with 1000 GP for FREE. 14.99
>Gambler's Pack - 5000 GP to spend on exclusive items at the Gold Saucer, 4.99
>Summoner's Pack - One set of Neo-Bahamut, Bahamut-ZERO and Knights of the Round materia, usable in all episodes, 6.99
>Weapon Pack - Sunken Gelnika optional dungeon, plus Ruby and Emerald Weapon boss fights, only 9.99
>>320230365
In FF4TAY there's a level cap on each episode (tough there was also a post-game on each episode which I found interesting), in FFD there's a cap on job level but not on character level.
>>320230794
They have already admitted they are explore (read: pad out) the story a lot more. Probably to stretch out the assets as much as possible and make more $20-30 episodes.
They should have focused on the better FF instead.
Final fantasy IV+ IV
>>320229510
Do you think they only started working on it on E3 weekend?
Wake me up when they've redone this scene.
They just have to take story from original and improve it so it doesn't really take that much time compared to writing a story from the ground up.
>>320230843
Oh SHIT where did all the time go?!
>>320230913
>Companion Pack - Vincent and Yuffie can be used as playable party members 6.99
>Phoenix Down Pack - Aeris and Zack can be used as playable party members 5.99
>Crossover Pack - Lightning and Tidus can be used as playable party members 14.99
>>320229652
No.
He said they started work it it at around the same time as the Steam port of FF7..
But the game is trash, it's an ARPG.
>>320230913
You forgot one.
>Don Corneo Pack - Explore the world of the Final Fantasy VII Remake series with the costumes worn by Cloud, Tifa, and Aerith in Don Corneo's mansion for $4.99.
>>320229972
>>320230086
10. Final Battle
11. Super Nova Animation
12. Rest of fight
I've been thinking about it.
They can't possibly make more than 2 parts.
part 1 midgar
part 2 the rest of the game.
Anything more than that is pure milking.
>>320229972
If each episode is truly 5-10 hours...this will be a great game eventually. With all parts included.
>>320229510
>They started developing it when they announced it at E3
People who think this are actually retarded.
>>320230365
FF13-3 only gives you items and gil from killing enemies but no exp. All "exp" is gained from quests.
And besides, autists already level cap their characters in the first zone in full games so I don't see how that is an issue in the first place.
>>320231169
What? You really think the Midgar section is HALF of the original game? Are you stupid?
>>320230995
Holy shit the shadow on his chest just fucking disappears at 1:10. I never noticed that before.
>>320231313
My fucken dick disapeared into your moms pussy last night m8
>>320230196
>>320230197
>guy made up some bullshit
>other people take it as facts
Are you shitting me
Also no shit scenario is done, it's been almost done for 18 years already
How can some people be so fucking retarded
>>320231271
I would be okay if they had it in 3 parts like they did with the original. Anymore than that is really just milking the dosh.
>>320231176
>Proceed to next episode
>Character levels aren't the same
>All my items and materia configs from the last episode have been reset
>Can only use certain party members
>Try to go back the way I came, "No need to go back there."
>Try to go off the story path, nothing to find
>Try to explore ahead, "Please purchase next episode"
Episodic, not even once.
>>320231364
On snap son that bitch just got fukken shrek'd amirite?
>>320231271
They can make midgar way larger and easily make a 30 hour game out of it.
>>320229510
This is going to be a disaster
Can't wait
>>320231489
[citation needed]
>>320229510
Scenario being complete means literally nothing, that is the first thing you set before you actually make the game.
>>320231448
Not going to happen, considering you explore most of the world in the first disc in the original. There would be no need to release the game in installments if they were going to do that.
Also Disc 3 barely has anything on it, it's just the final battle basically. Each disc pretty much contained the entire game, with only different cutscenes and a slight variation in accessible areas.
>>320231364
Oh we have a tough guy here huh....... *unsheathes my twin katanas* Well, let's see how tough you really are! *jumps into the air* TAAAAKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIS *spins around and slashes your face open* Not so tough now, huh????? *grabs you and throws you up* It's time to finish this little charade *holds my katanas above my head* YOU ARE FINIIIIISHEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!! *jumps upwards so that you get impaled on my swords* Heh.... easy.....
>>320231545
GAME IS READY TO SHIP CONFIRMED, FAGGOT
>>320231115
>Sephiroth wants to use Super Nova.
>Please insert Disc 11.
After the attack
>Please insert Disc 12
>>320229758
The XV demo was free with Type-0 HD
Just like the FF7 demo was free with Tobal No1
Just like the FF8 demo was free with Musashi
Just like the FF10 demo was free with FF6 PS1 port
Just like FF12 demo was free with DQ8
Just like FF13 demo was free with ACC
>>320231220
>All "exp" is gained from quests.
That would be a fucking awesome way of doing it. So you have to do as much unique shit as you can and can't grind.
>>320231529
Please Anon. I need this. I want to believe. Can you recommend the episodic games you've played that are not like what you quoted?
>>320231545
This, it's little more than the scenario writer + fucking storyboarding.
>>320229972
Dont forget the eventual special, delux, version withhalfof all the chapters in one game. Followed about a year later by the special, delux, complete edition with all the chapters together.
>>320231636
The only reason Type-0 sold was people buying the XV demo.
Nobody gives a shit about Type-0 and if they did they had already played it before it was released on PS4.
>>320231115
I would actually love it if they made a huge animation for Super Nova. Like it lasts for 30 minutes or something.
>>320229972
You forgot some senpai
11: Jenova Absolute
12: Bizarro Sephiroth part 1
13: Bizarro Sephiroth part 2
14: Safer Sephiroth part 1
15: Safer Sephiroth part 2
16: The entire animation of Super Nova itself
17: All of the side quests
18: Ruby Weapon
19: Emerald Weapon
20: Trailer for FF7-2: Advent Children: Part 1
This is how you correctly shitpost desu senpai
>>320229510
I thought they said in an interview when the second trailer came out that the crossdressing wasn't even complete
Do they really work that fast or are the episodes going to be pathetically short?
>>320229510
Most of the mechanics are probably directly lifted from XV so that'd save a lot of time
>>320231649
I've never heard of episodic games that ARE like you quoted because episodic games so far weren't RPGs. My point is that you're making shit up because you're a jaded, broken person who can't accept that maybe not literally everything is terrible. Consider suicide, it'll be good for you
>>320231714
Having another 2+ minute long attack isn't out of the question, Super Robot Wars still does it and those games are low budget as fuck
>>320231607
*teleports behind you*
AHA!!!
>>320231806
Looks more like Versus XIII then XV.
>>320231802
Part 1 probably isn't going to be out until 2017, for the game's actual 20th anniversary
>>320231509
>30 hour game out of it
With a ton of optional content, hopefully.
>>320231607
*it was a hologram*
>it's a barret keks dyne episode
Remember the .hack games on PS2, and how they reused assets and hardly added anything new in each installment? And still wanted you to pay full price for it?
CC2 will do the same with this, mark my words.
>>320231847
This. Lots of ideas that didn't make it to XV will be put into VII:R.
>>320231364
Anon this is a christian vietnamese imageboard please watch what you say. Thanks.
>>320231081
>Steam port
That was two years ago, wasn't it? That's about the time that I thought they would take. It has to be only Midgar then and probably only 10 hours at the most.
Looks like four parts is going to be pretty accurate. Now to see if every part is going to be at full price or not.
>>320229856
Yes. The main scenario being done says literally nothing at all about the actual dev progress.
>>320230843
That only compounds my point.
>>320231607
Fufufufufufu!
Attacking my mirage double???? Amature!
And Ithought you were a REAL fighter! Hmph!
*turns back on you*
Not even a challenge!
>>320231847
I don't understand, i thought XV was just a name change
>>320231704
And? The only reason any of those other games sold was because they came with FF demos for the new mainline FF, DQ8 did not sell because it was DQ, it sold because it came with FF12 demo, Tobal didn't sell 700k because it was Tobal, it sold 700k because it came with FF7 demo
>Nobody gives a shit about Type-0
Right that's why there was massive fan demand to get it localized with a dedicated operation movement just for that alone, one that was successful which SE themselves stated is why they decided to bring over Type-0 in the demo.
>if they did they had already played it before it was released on PS4.
Only because the fan translation came out the same day that SE announced they would release Type-0 HD
The fan translators knew SE was going to released Type-0 in the west and wanted to beat SE to the punch, in fact the public already knew almost a whole year before the fan translation was done that SE was going to release Type-0 in the west because Tabata said so himself in 2013 that they are still going to do it, then 7 months later SE announced it
The fan translation team was going to release their patch in August 2014 which would have been 2 months after SE revealed Type-0 HD officially for the west, but one of the translators leaked the patch 2 months early against everyone elses wishes on the team, and then they kicked him out
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>>320231832
I hope it'll be a 3/4 minute long CGI cutscene
>>320229845
Yes, scenario is what they call story. So it's the main story of part 1 that is completed, which is pretty much what I expected them to do in 2 years time. Now it's just going to be the side quest stuff and they will probably release it sometime next year.
>>320229510
>rushed
>they literally said they were working on it for 3 years before announcing it at E3
>still not out
>almost July again
Almost 4 years of work for probably a quarter of a full game and just the WRITING being done, not the actual game, is "rushed"?
>>320231951
I doubt they're that Jewish, but still pretty Jew.
I'm betting each part will be $39.99.
>>320230365
>>320231714
They could integrate it as a mid-form change cutscene. Would make it a lot less silly too, considering how easy it is to make it through that attack.
>>320231806
Not a single thing is from XV, it's not the same engine, gameplay or even dev team.
>>320231847
No it doesn't at all
XV still has the same Noctis system it always had as Versus and they've only expanded upon that, only the other characters were changed to a gambit system
7R plays nothing like Versus or XV
>>320231921
They are not even the same gameplay systems so no
7R doesn't have character switching just because XV doesn't, it has it because every character is on equal footing just like in Type-0 or DQH, it has nothing to do with XV or Versus
Are people still complaining about episodic releases?
Would you rather they released it on one disc and cut out/skimmed over a lot of content? Of course you wouldn't.
I'm sure you'll say otherwise, since I'm using logic and /v/ has to be contrarian and go against the grain for trolling/baiting.
>ITT what is a scenario?
>The legendary becomes real
The legendary WHAT
>can't into fucking basic english
>>320232131
That's also 4 contained stories, and each is over 60-80 hours long. FFVI as a whole was about a 50-60 hour game, unless you got really into chocobo racing.
>>320231921
Considering it plays nothing like Versus and it's some weird-ass action/ATB hybrid instead, I highly doubt that.
>>320232131
God those games were shit. Is your post in support of or against episodic content? I really can't tell.
Also, do you actually think .hack became the model for how episodic content is handled today? Also also, do you actually think FFVII can (better question: should) be broken up in that manner?
>>320232181
>Not a single thing is from XV
The crawling under rubble and sliding along a wall were the EXACT animations from XV you faggot
>>320232197
>Would you rather they released it on one disc and cut out/skimmed over a lot of content?
And why would this happen again? Do you realize how much data a BD can hold?
>>320232298
>and each is over 60-80 hours long
You could finish a part of the original .hack in 15 hours or even less.
The only thing left to do was just grinding for rare items
>>320231714
>Sephiroth's Super Nova has it's own plot and characters.
>>320232128
>quarter of a full game
It's like, an eight of the game at most.
VII is being remade in an episodic release because the last thing Square needs is a 3rd game to be a console generation in the making
>>320229510
I mean they most likely just model swapped the FF15 engine brehs
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>>320229856
>>320232218
Don't expect any sense to be had in this thread, guys. It's all just shitposters looking to get their jollies.
>Scenario already exists since 1997
>They take a portion of it and change it around a bit to be more modern or have some connection to BC/CC/AC
>Still need to work on everything else like maps, animations, and coding.
Part 1 will either deal with everything up to the Highway chase, in order to get the game out faster since there is no world map before this.
Or it will go all the way up to Nibelheim.
Though in my opinion part 1 will be midgar only since they'll just add tons of fluff since it is the largest area and also very linear compared to the rest of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it's out late next year.
>>320232197
>he actually believed the PR bullshit about having to cut out content
The multipart release is for one reason and one reason only: they can make more money off of it. There's a reason they're pushing the "each part is basically a full game" narrative. You're going to be paying out of your ass to play this game in its entirety.
>>320232414
Do you realise that they want to make each release the size of an actual game? You couldn't possibly fit everything onto one disc.
>>320232298
>60-80 hours long
olololololo
>>320232446
>Super Nova becomes an award winning film
People are fooling themselves if they think the first release will go beyond Midgar.
>>320232351
The thing here is that .hack was made by CyberConnect2, the company that is also helping make the FF7 Remake.
If there is one thing they know how to do, it's how to carry over save data between games.
>>320232621
I think you're fooling yourself :^)
>>320231081
>It's an ARPG
>It features ATB
Get your shitposting facts together, boi.
>>320232367
No it fucking isn't you retard, they are similar animations that countless fucking games do these days
Go and actually watch the animation because they are NOT the same fucking animation, completely different leg, arm and crouch movement between them.
XV is being made Luminous Engine by Business Division 2 inside Square Enix
7R is being made Unreal Engine 4 by Business Division 1 and CyberConnect 2
They are not the same fucking team, engine or anything between them.
XV is still using the same Noctis gameplay from Versus, only the other party members were modified to use Gambit AI
7R does not use either the Versus or XV system, 7R is using a menu based combat with a reverse ATB bar that depletes constantly over time and fills up only by inputting commands
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>>320230365
.hack G.U. was one game split into three and it worked just fine.
Emerald and Ruby weapon will be included as DLC , when you go to fight them , a giant dollar sign will be floating in the water or the sand.
>>320232414
>>320232539
It has nothing to do with disc size you idiots. It's about production time. They want to get some of this out for the actual 20th anniversary clearly, and no one wants this turning into another project that comes out a whole console generation later than the one it was announced for.
>>320230365
Trails is an episodic RPG too.
>>320232539
>each release the size of an actual game?
And how exactly are they accomplishing this? What facts do you have? FF7 has a fixed plot, they can only go so far before the plot moves forward. Compress the audio and it would be fine, unless you seriously think FF7 is worth of being a 120GB+ game with compressed audio.
>>320232537
If they wanted to make quick and easy money, they'd release the full thing next year and be done with it.
The fact that they're putting a lot of time and effort into each release shows that they actually want to give people a product worth the money they're paying for.
>>320232621
I'm expecting the first release to be an expanded version of Midgar that ends when you escape.
There'll probably be something like 3 or 4 parts in the end. They compared the releases to the Lightning trilogy or something like .hack, not fucking TellTale's format.
>>320232661
It features a new form of "ATB" that is an ARPG.
It has AI party members because in the video you can see cloud and barret moving and attacking at the same time.
He also mentioned "switching control of characters and you not being limited to cloud"
Which means you don't control every single action everyone takes.
>>320232740
>What facts do you have?
The same thing can be applied to people who say it's going to be few hours long and shit.
Nomura said full-release long so I'd wager 20-30h each episode. If it's released at 40€ price point it's pretty fair.
Cant wait to speedrun this
>>320232795
You actually still think companies, Square Enix in particular, have their customer's best interests at heart. Cute.
Reminder the remake of arguably Square's most popular game of all time isn't even being developed in house.
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>>320232740
>how exactly are they accomplishing this?
By putting in more places to explore, more sidequests, more story quests, more things to do, etc.
>>320232129
I'd say $19.99
>>320232847
You literally don't know what the fuck an ARPG is.
What kind of a fucking ARPG uses DEFEND menu command?
>It has AI party members because in the video you can see cloud and barret moving and attacking at the same time.
What does this have to do with being an ARPG? Or did you fade out XII's existence out of your mind? Or do you think it's an ARPG too?
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>>320232801
It's definitely going to be Midgar. Part 1 is going to be like XIII before you gained access to the world map. Except they'll let you actually explore the city.
Didnt nomura say last week he isnt sure how they are going to handle the crossdressing yet?
How does this make any sense?
>>320232921
You joke, but it'll probably be on AGDQ at some point
>>320232351
It's to say how they would handle leveling. It was a level cap, which SE has done before with multi part games.
It's entirely possible that they would do this, but I would hope not. It isn't like you can't just make it tedious to level up past what you want people to be at for a certain area. At like level 20 Midgar enemies start to only give you like 50 experience out of 10,000 you need to level and it just gets more ridiculous after that.
Might as well call it a soft level cap. Other then that, the .hack games are kind of weird because of their MMO simulation gameplay. All 'content' was basically available to you at the start and later episodes contained all previous areas.
CC2 knows how to handle the "we need to bring over ALL gameplay data" between games, consistency is paramount.
Also, you act like it isn't possible to break a game like FF7 up when it was already pretty broken up to begin with. All they need to do is have the final game have every location open to you and previous games only need to have certain locations open because the rest you won't even be able to visit until you have later transportation methods.
>>320232847
>It features a new form of "ATB" that is an ARPG.
7Rs system is literally a reverse version of the ATB bar in LR mixed with the menus from FF7/FF12 itself.
Go and actually watch the footage, you will notice Cloud is not actually free moving around during combat, we only see him doing attack commands which are canned animations, just like in LR
It is an ATB system just with more real time elements, it's not an actual Action RPG
Not to mention it has Defend on the command menu bar which only further proves it is menu based, not an Action RPG
>>320232678
HAHAHA NEED A NAP MATE? WHY ARE YOU SO MAD ABOUT FAGGOT ASS VIDEO GAMES????
>>320232952
Not really the case
There is save file transfer that gives you bonuses, but you still start DDS2 fresh. The only thing that's remotely similar to episodic games is Heat re-recruitment
>>320232931
>Nomura + Kitase + Business Division 1
>Not in house
You're joking right? While CyberConnect 2 helps them, it doesn't mean that they're doing it on their own.
>>320232963
It's not menu based combat and that's the only good kind of combat for a party based RPG
>>320233047
Calm down, that's just FFXV-kun doing his usual thing.
>>320232931
I do, they spent millions fixing FF14 after they fucked up royally, they go out of their way to provide dual audio when other companies just give you the middle finger. They're not perfect but they've been trying more in the past few years than they were 3 or 4 years ago.
>>320232953
Okay, but that won't change the fact that the game must end at a certain plot point. This is Ground Zeroes tier logic. "It's really short but check out all the sidequests!!"
>>320232678
Didn't XV switch to Unreal Engine some time ago?
>>320229510
They are reusing and recycling VersusXIII asset to make the first part of the game.
This is the only logical reason why they were able to shat it out so fast and explain how it was possible in the first place.
>reuse VersusXIII asset to remake part 1
>use part 1 sales to make part 2
>and so on and on and on
>>320232976
No, he said it's in the game, but he hasn't made the art yet.
The only thing that is 100% done now is that they wrote down what they want to happen in the first part of the series.
>>320232730
>generation later than the one it was announced for.
This! They want it out for PS4 and we are already a bit into it's life. The last thing they want is to take 8 years to make this game and for the PS4 to be on the way out the door.
Releasing a bit every so often seems like a better plan.
>>320233074
>It's not menu based combat
It literally fucking is
Every attack, magic, item, summon, defend command you do is from the MENU
It is menu based through and through.
Watch the actual trailer footage of the combat, Cloud is not free moving like in KH or other Action RPGs, he's only doing canned animations
>>320229510
So they just got done writing the story for the FIRST chapter?
Are they going to blunder again? This looks like a typical disaster of a dev process again.
Wondering how disjointed the episodes will feel.
Square should really start writing scenario, concept work and everything BEFORE they start creating assets.
What a bunch of goofballs.
>>320232976
Scenario is just the overall plot. Specific events and various minutiae on the other hand get tweaked and adjusted almost right until the end of the development.
>>320233074
You're blind, aren't you?
>>320233128
As long as they give us more things to do, I don't give a fuck about waiting till the next release.
>>320229652
Even if that were true it's not like Nomura would have to do much. All the characters already have basic designs and the story is already written.
>>320233130
No, that was KH3.
XV is still using Luminous.
>>320233130
No.
>>320233139
>No, he said it's in the game, but he hasn't made the art yet.
What is he doing all day then?
Square should really do a design document BEFORE they start making assets and announcements.
They have a really poor workflow these days
>>320232554
>Award ceremony is held on the Supernova cutscene Earth minutes before the real supernova hits your party
>>320232521
They are going to add a bunch of side missions you can do before the sector 5 bombing, I can just feel it. They will want you to get attached to Avalanche so it feels horrible when they die, instead of the hour you get to see of them.
>>320233206
Isn't that the first thing you'd do? Like before even making ANYTHING?
So this means they dont even know how they are going to handle anything after midgard?
This sounds like a total catastrophy again.
>>320233318
He's working on KH3 too.
Also I don't understand what you're even complaining about. It's not like they finished the actual script.
Is there such a thing as an episodic game series where each subsequent episode contains all the content from all previous episodes?
Because if not, FF7 isn't going to work as episodic.
>>320233084
Seems like screwing up FF14 so hard made them wake up and realize just how pissed off they had made a lot of people. Hell they're finally bringing Dragon Quest over again, never thought I'd see that happen.
>>320233067
Considering DDS1 ends with a cliffhanger and DDS2 makes no sense without DDS1, I wouldn't call it "starting fresh". They're also mechanically and graphically identical, unlike most conventional game sequels.
>>320229510
>PART 1 is ready
>B-b-but it would take too long to make a complete game
Go fuck yourself Squix, and bring me XV already.
>>320233130
No.
When it was Versus it was using a heavily modified Crystal Tools that they dubbed Ebony Engine.
In 2011 Nomura stated they would be moving Versus to Luminous but Luminous was not done yet
In 2012 in order to help with moving Versus/XV from Ebony to Luminous, they created a DX11 version of Ebony and the intergrated some Luminous lighting tech into it
In 2013 that is what we saw at E3, DX11 Ebony with Luminous Lighting
In July 2013 that is when they fully started moving XV to Luminous by migrating all they had from the Ebony build, they integrated the entire Luminous team into the XV team to make this happen at a faster pace
And in September 2014 we finally saw XV running fully on Luminous Engine, at the time version 1.4, the demo in 2015 was Luminous 1.5 and the full game in 2016 will be Luminous 2.0
KH3 was originally in 2013 going to be Luminous too but they intergrated all the Luminous devs into the XV team to speed up development, and since KH3 had barely started they just restarted KH3 on UE4 sometime early in 2014.
FF7R is being made on UE4 for the same reason, because all Luminous devs are assigned to XV right now.
>All of the people in this thread shitting on the news either without knowing what it means, or just purposely shitting on it just to shitpost
>>320233480
No, if anything it's because they reformed and Wada was booted out.
>>320229652
there are 3 options
>1
project was being worked long ago but only revealed at E3
>2
shit is rushed as fuck and will be a buggy mess
>3
its full of quality but is short as fuck. so the game will be divided in more than just the 3 parts from back in 90s
>>320233547
I hate shitposting newfags, they don't even make it entertaining. It's just so fucking boring.
>>320233435
>He's working on KH3 too.
So what is he doing there?
They are such a mess with their fucked up production process.
Just let the man do one thing at a time and force him to draw up a design document and finished script BEFORE you do any of the heavy lifting.
>>320233441
.//hack comes to mind. Or any game with expansion packs. I don't get why people are acting like episodic = linear no turning back. It just means the game isn't going to be out all at once.
>>320233136
>They are reusing and recycling VersusXIII asset to make the first part of the game.
They aren't reusing a single fucking thing from Versus into 7R you fucking retard, it's not even the same dev team, engine, gameplay or anything.
>This is the only logical reason why they were able to shat it out so fast and explain how it was possible in the first place.
What? The game is not anywhere close to being done, the fucking SCENARIO for the FIRST PART is done, that means literally fucking nothing, story is one of the first fucking things you set during early development.
None of the assets from Versus are being used in 7R you retards
>>320233524
>autist wall of text
Hey FFXV-kun
>>320233573
You do realise that the scenario doesn't mean the game itself is ready, right?
>>320233591
Because shitposting. Just like pretty much anything concerning FF7R.
>>320233441
.hack did that. it carried over all content and saved data from previous episode into the next.
but it was also a very different ARPG.
>>320232181
>Not a single thing is from XV, it's not the same engine, gameplay or even dev team.
Actually they're reusing the engine and a lot of art assets straight down to animations. They're also reusing a lot of the nova bullshit art assets and animations as well.
FF doesn't make them much money anymore, they keep overspending and getting shit on returns. Why XIII got 2 sequels so they could reuse as much as possible to get the most bang for their buck.
The game will blow chunks. Heard it here first.
>>320231704
>Nobody gives a shit about Type-0
Wrong, fans asked for it localization.
>if they did they had already played it before it was released on PS4.
I don't believe most people speak japanese for that.
If there someone who won't pull random facts out of their ass to prove their point ????
>>320233668
You mean a factual wall of facts that you like the autist you always are desperately try to ignore by spouting "le xv kuun le boogeymen is here!?".
>>320233581
I don't know what Nomura does on a daily basis, do you?
You're complaining that they decided what they want to happen in the plot before... designing everything else? That's now how it works. You need a Scenario to know what you need to actually make.
They're not going to start designing the Highwind if it isn't even appearing in Parts 1 or 2.
>>320233674
its worst, if they are only doing the planing for the 1st chapter, shit wont be dont by 2017
>>320233751
It was being translated be a fan group and they finished their job before Squeenix did.
>>320233493
The scenario is done, you idiot. Not the first part. Learn to read.
>>320233489
>Considering DDS1 ends with a cliffhanger and DDS2 makes no sense without DDS1, I wouldn't call it "starting fresh"
I meant gameplay-wise
You start with no items, level 1, no mantra learned, downsized party, all that jazz
>>320233737
>They're reusing the engine
>XV is Luminous, 7R is Unreal Engine
????????????
>FF doesn't make them much money anymore
kek
>>320233197
Well it isn't like they have to think of the story before working on locations or anything. I would understand this line of thinking if they were working totally fresh, but this is a remake of an established game and universe. Nomura wanted to do some story rewrites and everyone else could get working on Midgar and what it should look like. They can easily meet in the center at a later time
>>320233737
>Actually they're reusing the engine and a lot of art assets straight down to animations.
No they aren't you fucking idiot
XV is using Luminous Engine
7R is Unreal Engine
None of the animations, assets or anything in 7R is from Versus or XV.
Are you fucking people blind?
>>320233645
>None of the assets from Versus are being used in 7R you retards
Look up VersusXIII gameplay video and compare it to VII-Remake and see for yourself who's the retard here.
Barret gameplay is basically Prompto with his over the shoulder review.
>>320233679
What about stuff like areas and enemies?
To be a proper remake of FF7, by the last episode you should be able to fly your airship anywhere on the world map and revisit all the towns/NPCs from previous episodes. Stuff like large-scale sidequests, chocobo breeding and secret areas just wouldn't make sense without that kind of design.
I've never heard of an episodic game like that though.
>>320233863
It's safe to say that Nomura is using his original ideas for Versus XIII in this game since he got kicked off of XV.
>>320233441
They could just require you to have the previous packs downloaded so you could backtrack and shit
>>320233792
See >>320232039
SE had already translated Type-0 back in 2012 when they were still planning to release it for PSP, but the market of PSP was dead in the west so they couldn't
That is why they waited for a new avenue to be able to bring it, and that just so happened to be as a HD port on PS4/Xbone/PC which are doing well in the west.
>>320233863
A fucking camera angle is an asset now? I guess FFXV must be reusing animations from Gears of War then.
>>320229652
it's just a reskinned unreal engine tutorial.
>>320233928
>kicked off of XV.
He didn't get kicked, he went on to focus on getting KH3 done along with FF7R.
>>320233892
Game maps are very easy. The difference data-wise on the disc will be cutscenes, audio, and earlier parts won't have the assets of the final game because they aren't done yet.
>>320233668
>anything with time and dedication is autism
Nice memes.
episodes will be "full games" just like Life Is Strange episodes are "full games". I don't expect the first "episode" of that shit to go farther than Aerith meeting at the church.
>>320233524
Because they licensed UE and use a lot of the code for Luminous. That's why they were hiring devs for UE for the FFXV team a while ago. What theyr'e using from UE is not what you think of course.
>>320233957
Just look it up yourself retard.
>its different engine
>so they can't possibly import it or anything
>>320233990
>he went on to focus on getting KH3 done along with FF7R.
Square must be a really great place to work if you can just freely decide what to work on and what not and leave projects on a whim.
Hey maybe he'll get tired of FFVIIR tomorrow, who knows?
>>320233892
>What about stuff like areas and enemies?
That did carry over too. Basically everything carried over. But those games had very contained, small maps too.
And that is probably why they could do that.
They also reused 90% of what was in the previous part. And most story progression was done in small cutscenes or text you got by email.
>>320233863
Where was the crosshair during the Barret gameplay? Why did the camera appear to be turning around him? I think you're just shitposting at this point friend.
>episodic rpg
Anyone who buys this is pure fucking cancer
Even if it's complete I doubt they'll release it now.
They have a lot of releases for Spring and Summer, so probably Fall 2016 because MUH TIMING
>>320234038
>dedicate time to autistically trying to "prove" complete strangers wrong with made up timelines of events that you have no way of knowing anyways, because it's all just PR bullshit
FFXV-kun, your autism is literally causing you to argue 10 hours per day about final fantasy on /v/ and all the threads are gone after that anways, why are you doing this with your life?
>>320233863
>Look up VersusXIII gameplay video and compare it to VII-Remake and see for yourself who's the retard here.
Nigger are you fucking retarded?
See >>320232678
Not a single fucking thing from Versus or XV is being used in 7R
A fucking camera angle means litelraly nothing, XV still has TPS with Noctis when he uses guns
Barret is not even doing TPS shooting, it's fucking canned animations from a fucking menu, that is how FF7R plays, it's a fucking menu based ATB game just with more real time elements added
It plays NOTHING like Versus or XV at all.
>>320233928
None of the things from 7R are things from Versus or XV, and he wasn't kicked off, he was assigned to direct FF7R in 2014 by Kitase which is why the higher ups had left Tabata in charge of XV since Tabata had been co-director on XV since 2012 when it actually started full development
>>320234075
Nigga Nomura has moved from being a grunt to being a director of several important games.
The basic shit was already done for XV before Nomura left XV.
>>320229972
>Strife is Strange
>>320234159
>Not a single fucking thing from Versus or XV is being used in 7R
Nomura is.
Checkmate atheists.
>>320233861
Luminous borrows heavily from UE and also the art assets and nimations are 100% compatible.
you do know art assets and animations and the like aren't tied to specific engines too right? Like I can take art assets from quake 2 and put them directly into Unreal 4 right now with very little effort. It'll look like ass cause they're quake 2 assets, but it works. There's no 'mystery' behind it.
You do know they were hiring experienced UE devs for the XV team for a reason right? That's why there were transfers from the Monty team to Japan. I mean you can continue to be dumb or you could listen to people who actually know how things work.
>>320234159
SEE WHAT?
Next time, look at the shit you quoted before you make a fool of yourself.
>>320229972
>Each episode 5-10 hours (full game by 2015 standards)
The kicker here is that it has been a standard for decades, not just the 2015 /v/ memes it up to be.
Hell, games used to have bullshit difficulty up the ass to keep them from being completed in under an hour.
>>320234150
It will be December '16 or Jan '17 at the earliest.
What we saw the other week was alpha footage at best.
>>320234167
>Nigga Nomura has moved from being a grunt to being a director of several important games.
This is so autistically retarded.
Does this make any of his work better? Was any of this stuff released so far?
A movie director also won't direct 10 movies at a time, because it would be bullshit from a productivity standpoint.
Square is a mess.
This is going to be a stinking pile of shit.
>>320234063
It's not the same fucking gameplay, engine, dev team or anything you fucking retard
7R plays nothing like what Versus or XV are doing
XV is a full fledged Action RPG with dodges, aerial combat, warps, platforming, jumps, monster limb destruction, co op moves etc
7R is a menu based ATB RPG where all your commands are input from a menu and only a canned animation plays after you choose the commands, the ATB bar always depletes and it fills up only by inputting commands
They play nothing alike, similar fucking animations mean fuck all when they play nothing alike
>>320233382
Again, no. Scenario writing is not construction work: very few things are set in stone and stuff often gets refined or added as you go. Just to give you an example: Vincent's plot in the original FFVII was not finished until the game was practically ready to ship, while Zack and Cloud's escape (a crucial event, one would think) wasn't even included in the original Japanese release.
>FFXV-kun is now also defending FFVIIR
Did he evolve?
>>320234296
Were talking about VersusXIII you fucking idiot, not XV.
>>320234047
They are not using UE with XV you idiot
XV is fully Luminous Engine, the entire Luminous Engine team was intergrated into the XV team because of that.
>>320234282
How is it a mess?
>Was any of this stuff released so far?
Kingdom Hearts? You know, the third biggest franchise Square has under their belt?
Again, XV's basic shit was already done before Nomura left it.
>>320234328
>Again, no. Scenario writing is not construction work: very few things are set in stone and stuff often gets refined or added as you go.
Just stop FFXV-kun.
You are a unemployed 30 year old man who dedicates 10 hours per day to extremely autistic shitposting on /v/ and you've been doing this for more than a year now.
What would a total complete failure at life like you know about structured work?
>>320234357
He'll defend anything his god Nomura touches. He's a complete utter fucking fantard.
He's so pathetic I think he might even be a girl. Only raging females are this dedicated.
I won't mind a more action oriented combat if they include gambits to program my allies tbqh
if it won't have gambits, I'd rather have it turn based
if it'll be anything like xenoblade it's going to suck
>>320234216
Nomura was not in any of them you fucking moron, he's a dev who is involved in dev process, not a thing inside a game, and by your logic 7R is now FF13 because Nomura was involved with that too
>>320234227
See the fucking post, see the fucking Webm
XV is still using the Versus system
7R is not using anything from Versus or XV
>>320234460
>Facts are shitposting
>Actual shitposting is facts
/v/ is literally tumblr now baka
>>320234463
>He's so pathetic I think he might even be a girl. Only raging females are this dedicated.
That thought crossed my mind too. Wasn't there some lengthy tl;dr by some retarded weeb who got sucked into some sepiroth-worshipping cult by fat lesbian dykes?
That's probably the level of mental illness we are talking here.
>>320234437
>Again, XV's basic shit was already done before Nomura left it.
Wait... isn't that proven to be wrong and they're still nowhere near done?
>>320234545
>7R is now FF13
Nah, FF13 was atleast a complete game. A shit one, but atleast it wasn't trying to rip everyone off by being sold in pieces.
>>320234219
>Luminous borrows heavily from UE and also the art assets and nimations are 100% compatible.
No it doens't, Luminous is a completely separate engine that has nothing to do with UE
XV is 100% Luminous Engine, it is not using UE4 you fucking moron
>You do know they were hiring experienced UE devs for the XV team for a reason right?
Except they aren't, at all, you are literally full of fucking shit, the XV team has nothing to do with UE4, XV only uses Luminous Engine which is a completely separate engine from Unreal Engine 4
>>320234659
XV is playable from start to finish and just needs to be polished on the second half.
>>320234545
>XV is still using the Versus system
Not it isn't.
Its just used the SAME FUCKING ANIMATION.
The battle system in VII-Remake however is almost the exact same shit in VersusXIII.
>>320234463
The only person on /v/ I WANT to use a tripcode.
Seriously. I have never before experienced anyone who was so obviously recognizable by their psychotic posting behavior.
>>320233818
Right. In that case, see >>320232679. In that trilogy the level cap of one episode acted as the starting level for the next. You also kept all of your items, equipment, money, etc. if you had the complete save.
>>320234365
AND XV IS STILL USING THE SAME FUCKING SYSTEM FOR NOCTIS SINCE VERSUS YOU FUCKING RETARD
SEE >>320232678
7R IS NOT USING A SINGLE FUCKING THING FROM VERSUS OR XV
>people are actually going to pay for episodic content
Didn't you fucking morons learn from Valve? Square can drop it at any fucking point just like Valve did with Half-Life and leave you hanging while they laugh atop a pile of your money.
WHY ARE YOU FALLING FOR THIS SHIT AGAIN
>>320234731
Did your friend nomura told you that when he visited you on the astral plane?
We are dealing with heavy delusions here.
>>320234830
http://gematsu.com/2015/12/final-fantasy-xv-currently-playable-start-finish
Fuck off you delusional shitposting newfag.
>>320234682
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
You're actually serious, let me laugh even harder.
Luminous is like GoldSrc FYI. I like how you didnt' even try to talk about the fact art assets aren't bound to engines. You literally don't know what you're talkinga bout at all. Go actually get a job in the industry and learn how shit actually.
Hell if you have UE4 experience you can get hired to the XV team.
>>320234357
>>320234463
Can you not read?
XV-kun is shitting on 7R
>>320234830
Stop
>>320234814
They will probably drop it halfway finished, seems to be a square thing recently. They also dropped FFXV
>>320231704
I thought it was good.....
>>320233441
Only things I can think of by the same company is FFXI, FFXIV and DQX, but expansions (Episodes) are a given since they're MMO's
>>320234795
SYSTEM =/= ANIMATION
For fuck sake, VersusXIII even have 3 party limit.
Not to mention that SE have over and over again stated that remaking VII is almost impossible.
So how the fuck can they do it now? The only logical explanation we have is that they are cutting cost by reusing VersusXIII asset.
Which is of course, not limited to just ANIMATION.
>>320234853
This article is full of lies, I believe >>320234917
desu he sounds reliable.
>>320229510
Does anyone know how large the dev team is?
I know UE4 is nice and quick but to pull this of you need a large team..
