Bethesda are lazy fucks and I'm angry about it, so here's a cursory attempt at a semi-comprehensive list at irritating things in Fallout 4.
(1/2)
>Radiation has no effect other than reducing maximum health
>Melee attacks (still) don't target individual body parts
>No reason to target anything but the head
>Feral ghouls hit you and immedately fall over
>You can find and modify weapons but you can't build them, not even the pipe weapons
>No ammo crafting
>Crafting station animations must finish before exiting
>When building settlements there's no general angle snapping
>Furthermore, what objects clip to what seems random and untested
>Buildable fences and walls don't confrom to terrain
>"Construction Lights" give off little illumination despite requiring a unit of power
>Single hanging lightbulb apparently miniature sun
>Some player-built lights despite being powered don't activate when zoning in
>Lights shine through walls and floors
>No menu option to see who is at what settlement
(2/2)
>Caravan system is cumbersome and only seems to transport your junk between settlements
>Settlement shopkeepers spit flavor dialogue as you approach the stalls, must finish before you can barter
>Outfitting your settlers isn't a result of a perk or a menu, you have to individually equip them like a companion
>Companion carry weight hidden
>Nick's exposed metal jaw doesn't articulate when he speaks, despite his chin bobbing up and down
>Synths and robots lose plating and parts as you shoot them (someone played Binary Domain, good), with no statistical consequense (bad)
>The synths speak out loud to communicate with eachother, just like the raiders and supermutants and other enemies. Why would a group of robots need to shout at each other for communication? They establish they have networking capability.
>Which buildings and objects are scrappable at settlements seems random and untested (Sanctuary Hills, The Slog, etc.)
>Glowing One body texture animation doesn't loop correctly, persists after death
>Dialogue system uses same lines for pass/fail of charisma checks
>No non-charisma skill checks in dialogue
>Persistent corpses, settlers evidently okay with the smell
>Persistent physics debris that prevent consturction around settlements that can only be interacted with through pushing with player character or blowing away with explosives
>The player can only really interact with the 4 factions deciding the ending. All raider gangs attack on site, despite looking like they have their own towns and settlements with things to do (Libertalia, robot race track, Gunners)
>No ending slides
>No continuing quest to help USS Constitution get to the ocean, just sits on the building it lands in forever
>Scavengers from said quest turn hostile wether or not you decide to help them
>Copy/pasted metro again
Tell me if I'm full of shit on any of these or your additions to the list.
No, anon. You aren't full of shitty. Bethesda haven't made a decent game since Morrowind and it's good to see that people are finally seeing them for the hacks they are.
>>320148257
>he doesn't shoot ghouls in the legs
Then dont play it.
>>320148534
What's the point when they're practically made of paper, and by the time you cripple a limb they're nearly dead?
>>320148781
just like fallout 1-2
shoot everyone in the eyes, no exceptions
take a break and play something else for a while. I'm sure some of this will be fixed soon enough.
Some shit is legit annoying though.
>>320149254
Yeah I'm done 'til the DLC comes out and gets cracked.
This is just observations after ~100 hours.
>If you hate it so much why'd you play it for so long?
'Cause I'm a jobless self-hating fuck, duh.
>>320148257
>Feral ghouls hit you and immedately fall over
Not always. Mostly with lunging attacks.
>>320148293
>forever
100 years
>>320148257
>>320148293
You're mostly correct about every point you made.
Fallout 4 is still a good game though.
What gets me is that there is literally no reason to have a companion after lvl30 on very hard even. Just stimpak sponges
>>320150008
Who could be toddhind this post?
i hear ya op but thats like complaining about ass hair in your shit pie
>>320148257
>>320148293
>>320149564
feel ya, spent a lot of time in the game and while I had fun, i don't think fun makes sloppy and lazy game design acceptable.
>>320148257
>No reason to target anything but the head
Wrong depending on the enemy.
>You can find and modify weapons but you can't build them, not even the pipe weapons
Mods. Your fault for playing on console kiddo.
>No ammo crafting
Mods. Your fault for playing on console kiddo.
As for the rest, because i'm not autistic to quote or give a shit about everything you said either mods OR accept the fact that FO4 is barely a RPG but mostly a Fallout themed Far Cry. Which is immensely better than the abortion that was New Vegas or Fallout 3.
>>320148781
Not all of them are made out of paper, and not on all Difficulties.
I have a special kneecapper plasma rifle for ghouls, I can usually blow their leg off in 2 shot on very hard, and they still need another 5 or 6 to die.
Also dismembering their legs makes them no threat if a glowing one revives them.
>>320149564
I feel sorry for you. The people who spent more time finding flaws in the game than enjoying are pathetic.
I would have stopped playing the game at 5 hr mark if I were you and played something else I enjoy.
>>320149079
>not going for the groin
Shake my head to be honest family.
>>320150816
>anything other than eyeballs
Seriously. C'mon. It was the best VATS target in 2.
The settlement side of the game would have been a great way to add longevity, giving you something to do when you're sick of dungeon diving, or when you're so OP and loaded with gear there's no reason to do it anymore. If they'd put any effort at all into it. It was a great idea and they didn't even try to implement it effectively.
>>320148257
>No reason to target anything but the head
Literally wrong
Robots on non-casual difficulties will #REK your shit unless you break their legs quick enough. They're also the weakest points (for whatever fucking reason)
as regards to the PC port, it's an entirely new low by Bethesda and I genuinely wonder why they even bother porting it in the first place.
It really shows how much they care about the modding community, that keeps their shit games afloat for years after release, when they made it so you must enable file selection in the .ini and even then there is a bugged launcher icon for it. It's an invisible button located under the T-60 helmet's right eye, the fuck? And how long has this game been in development for? Why the fuck is the GECK not releasing until January?
no FOV slider, forced mouse accel, input lag, laggy shitty shadows, forced 60 FPS lock, awful UI seemingly designed to fuck over anyone using M&KB, it's completely unacceptable. It's a total slap in the face to everyone who plays on PC, and I hate how many cunts are defending Bethesda and this shallow watered down open world Call of Duty shitfest.
>>320150552
So, they made a shitty game and expected the community to fix it? This seems okay for you?
>>320151238
>awful UI seemingly designed to fuck over anyone using M&KB
This. I played on PC and used a M&KB after the first 15 minutes.
>>320148257
Most of the things you said are already fixed by mods and will continue to be. You're also bitching about really pointless things and don't mention the really big flaws of the game.
Should have mentionned the shit optimisation, butchering of RP elements, dialogue limited to 4 choice instead of the miniature sun used as a lightbulb.
>>320151464
>used a M&KB after the first 15 minutes.
I mean controller.
Fuck me sideways.
>>320151048
Legs were better in early game when you weren't accurate enough to hit eyes. Mid game, groin to knock down the enemy and get 95% on eyes.
>>320151170
>Robots on non-casual difficulties will #REK your shit
Bethesda learned something about making robots threatening again once I came across an assaultron rape-bot my first time.
Remember when paid mods for Skyrim were a thing and how they're still trying to do that?
Personally I think that Bethesda should be the one to pay the modders, as compensation for fixing their shitty games.
>>320151576
All that stuff has been covered and is applicable in any discussion, I wanted to highlight all the little things that shows how fucking careless they were in all areas of development.
>>320148257
>walk into combat zone
>oh this looks cool, there's even some raiders tied up in the lobby
>neat, there's host and everything in here. Maybe I can bet caps here or fight myself
>"YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE
>it turns into another shooting gallery
Same thing with the robot race track. Fuck you Bethesda.
>>320151238
>PC Port
Fuck, i had forgotten about that. One of the biggest reasons i dropped this horrible game.
>Game is tied with FPS. Which means, if your FPS goes above 60, you can attack fasteer, move faster, and vice-versa. Have fun fixing your game if you have a 144 mhz monitor
>Godrays reducing your fps by 20~25 points if you don't have a Nvidia Card
>Uncompressed 1024x1024 textures that were 5~6mb each. Explains why the game takes so long to load/lags so much but still looks like shit
>Terrible UI
>Buggy shadows
>Input lag
>Most tweaks are only acessible through ini moddifying, even disabling v-sync what the fuck
Laziest PC port ever. Some random guy, alone, on Fallout Nexus managed to compress every texture in the game, while also maintaining the original graphics. And Bethesda couldn't.
Dropped it faster than a black baby.
>>320148257
>No reason to target anything but the head
But robots take less damage from headshots. Try using VATS and switching between head and body to see how much damage a shot will do. Also, I think Deathclaws take the most damage if you hit them in their soft underbelly
>"Construction Lights" give off little illumination despite requiring a unit of power
>Single hanging lightbulb apparently miniature sun
This pissed me off
>>320151854
desu senpai, I don't see how they are careless in all areas of development when no matter how broken and shallow their games are, they are still miles above everything on the market, not to mention you can fix everything with mods.
Name one other studios that comes close to what they do.
>>320151630
Anon you need some rest
>>320148293
>dialogue system uses same lines for pass/fail of charisma checks
>No non-charisma skill checks in dialogue
It's like nobody who made FO4 played New Vegas
>>320152053
Some random guy also made this config tool in a couple of weeks. When Bethesda had at least four years, maybe more. It's not that Bethesda can't, they just don't care.
I forgot about godrays, they are broken for nvidia users as well. I have a 970 and I get massive stuttering and 10 FPS loss from them.
>>320148293
Surprisingly enough the no ending slides got me the most.
I fished the game and that was it.
It didn't feel like a ending.
>>320151630
Don't mind, meant to quote>>320151618
Looks like I need some rest myself
>>320152195
>>320151907
man that was really disappointing
>Walk in, kill the two dipshits in the lobby
>Open up the door, expecting some cage arena fight
>Immediately aggro every raider for no reason
>Inbred scot girl just runs around aimlessly as I clean up
>Trying to loot and the ghoul keeps repeating the same fucking line endlessly to go talk to him
>Hur, you need to take a break from fighting, go travel with this person
>Make her my companion
>Exit the building, and she never shows up
>Move on in this shitty game.
>>320151696
>run across an assaultron
>BOS swoop in on their vertibird
>team lands, bird crashes somewhere nearby
>assualtron proceeds to fuck the entire BOS team in the mouth
>I take out the remaining health while it dismantles Nick
>>320150552
Dont rely on mods to fix their mistakes.
FO3 was probably the best aside from it's limited mechanics and shoehorned story.
>>320151334
Shills aren't too bright this morning
>>320153217
The vertibirds are a fucking joke, they even get easily taken down by random raiders so easily.
I think Bethesda just plainly forgot to scale them according to how the rest of the world was scaled.
And they constantly explode randomly because of their shitty pathfinding. They clip on some random building parts and explode. I've seen them one explode as soon as they took off or fucking crash when there was no enemies at all to focus on while traveling.
I heard Bethesda even based their movement mechanics directly from Skyrim's Dragons.
Saying Bethesda is lazy is an understatement. They just took a look at what games were selling in recent years and just shoved it into their unfocused mess of a game. Fallout 4 may as well have been a collaboration project between Bioware, Gearbox, Mojang and some independent modders. The only original content Bethesda put in 4 was their autistic writing.
>>320154047
>pathfinding same as the Dragons
Wouldn't be surprising they recycled that too.
Same underlying mechanics from Skyrim. Same aesthetic from FO3. Even the BOS finale is an 'escort the killbot' mission. The only thing they really improved on is the character creator.
>>320154235
>The only original content Bethesda put in 4 was their autistic writing.
If their writing was autistic, it would have been fucking consistent.
The writing was more reminiscent of something kids brainstormed up and asked their parents to write.
>>320148257
>Radiation has no effect other than reducing maximum health
I'm fine with the radiation changes it never was enough of a threat before, but I can see where you are coming from
>Melee attacks (still) don't target individual body parts
legit complaint
>No reason to target anything but the head
untrue
>Feral ghouls hit you and immedately fall over
feral ghouls NEED the nerf with how fast they are now and their swarming behavior
>You can find and modify weapons but you can't build them, not even the pipe weapons
kind of legit complaint but a needed way to keep game balance
>No ammo crafting
legit complaint this is a huge loss from new vegas
>Crafting station animations must finish before exiting
easy patch
>When building settlements there's no general angle snapping
incoming patch I'm sure
>Furthermore, what objects clip to what seems random and untested
patchable
>Buildable fences and walls don't confrom to terrain
patchable
>"Construction Lights" give off little illumination despite requiring a unit of power
nitpicky as fuck
>Single hanging lightbulb apparently miniature sun
less so but still nitpicky
>Some player-built lights despite being powered don't activate when zoning in
patchable
>Lights shine through walls and floors
annoying and probably won't ever be patched but not a huge problem in settlements
>No menu option to see who is at what settlement
legit complaint, probabably only ever get a mod to fix this problem
>>320154758
>Rad changes
I'm pretty sure they caused mutations good and/or bad in FO3. All they do now is prevent you from healing to max.
>All this wishful thinking of Bethesda patching
>inb4 mods will fix it
>>320155134
I know in New Vegas rad poisoning dropped your STR as well, which was a serious problem when looting in highly irradiated areas like Vault 34.
>>320148293
>Caravan system is cumbersome and only seems to transport your junk between settlements
haven't gotten much into it I will admit but junk being transported between settlements sounds better than it has any right to
>Settlement shopkeepers spit flavor dialogue as you approach the stalls, must finish before you can barter
easy patch
>Outfitting your settlers. . .
legit complaint
>Companion carry weight hidden
legit
>Nick's exposed metal jaw. . .
legit but a little nitpicky
>Synths and robots lose plating and parts. . .
legit but more a wish than a complaint
>The synths speak out loud to communicate. . .
wireless networking up all the time? and how much more boring would they be if they didn't speak? would be bad game design
>Which buildings and objects are scrappable. . .
legit complaint but not huge IMO
>Glowing One body texture animation doesn't loop correctly, persists after death
big whoop, patchable
>Dialogue system uses same lines for pass/fail of charisma checks
ENRAGING
>No non-charisma skill checks in dialogue
I SPIT UPON WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE DIALOG OPTIONS
>Persistent corpses, settlers evidently okay with the smell
can be annoying or hilarious, very minor immersion break
>Persistent physics debris that prevent consturction around settlements that can only be interacted with through pushing with player character or blowing away with explosives
legit
>The player can only really interact. . .
shameful display on bethesdas part you are 100% correct in complaining here
>No ending slides
straight up heresy
>No continuing quest to help USS Constitution get to the ocean, just sits on the building it lands in forever
legit, liable DLC setup though
>Scavengers from said quest turn hostile wether or not you decide to help them
legit
>Copy/pasted metro again
to be fair they are like that in real life and not nearly as bad as 3s metros. still legit though
>>320154758
I know I'm nitpicking hardcore about the lights but taking up power resource should provide more illumination, moreover it seems like the settlement pieces were all designed in chunks by separate teams that never communicated.
>>320153025
>>Make her my companion
>>Exit the building, and she never shows up
and for every other person she does show up.
>>320156585
much better iteration of the complaint right there
>>320155134
I was never freak out of dying because of rads in even 3 though, 4 they can easily kill you wheras previously they were an annoyance with limited sources of rads anyways. ManyAtrueNerd's permanant damage run of fallout 3 barely worried about rads as well, he completed the main game and point lookout without ever getting even the first stage of radiation sickness and he had countered the negative to it already anyways.
Bethesda patching IS pretty wishful thinking I admit but they will patch A FEW things and I think you should try and hold off on adding these things to the list for a few patches longer, if only out of courtesy
>>320151238
>no FOV slider
because all the animations were made with the default in mind, with no plans to ever change it. Have you seen that webm floating around of the reload animation?
>Bethesda are lazy fucks
>but mods fix everything!
Yeah they're still lazy fucks though if you have to rely on mods to make the game better.
>>320157395
Bethesda are so lazy
>>320150572
I played on survival, all ghouls except glowing ones die in one/two hits
>>320151907
You've posted this in a different thread a while back, fuck off.
>>320148471
>morrowind
>decent
a step back from daggerfall
two steps back from gothic
three steps back from ultima 7
until now modder still cant fix the combat to be more involving so they make it a dps race instead.
but it got a pretentious methhead as the lead writer who base his meta-narrative on some ingame books so it is bretty gud.
>>320156313
>>wireless networking up all the time? and how much more boring would they be if they didn't speak? would be bad game design
Legit, sure. But what if there was a quest like in the BOS where you were able to get a mod for your Pipboy where your radio could pickup their wireless communications? That world be a great worldbuilding setpiece.
>>320157395
Do you think that excuses it? That just further proves they don't give a shit about the PC version and didn't even think about people making ini edits to change it. They should have made the animations scale with the FOV like every other game, but of course this is Bethesda we're talking about.
>>320159528
>more fetch quest
nah.
they are trying to intimidate you but sounds like those NEETs at Institute dont know how to make them sound scary.
>we.will.find.you
>stealth?interesting
...
>>320159427
>Morrowind
>Three steps back from Ultima 7
Nigga, what? I love the fuck out of Ultima, but come on now. That's not even remotely true. They're not even comparable games.
>>320159601
I wasn't excusing it, I thought my post had a more contemptuous tone.
>>320154758
>>320156313
Dude, just because it's fixable doesn't mean it's not a problem. I mean just because Bethesda is lazy and has to rely on the community to fix their shitty games doesn't mean we should accept it. It's what's gotten us here in the first place.
If you are targeting deathclaws in the head you are doing it wrong. There weak spot is their soft belly.
>the most moddable, technologically accomplished open world game on the market today isn't perfect
cry me a river, you don't see anyone else putting out a real open world game of the same accomplishment.
If it's as easy as you fags say, why aren't we flooded with better open world games? Oh, right, it's because these games are hard as fuck to make and Bethesda is one of the few developers able to make them to any sort of AAA+ standard.
>>320160014
>it's because these games are hard as fuck to make
instant replies.
I agree with you. but that line will bring out the hivemind.
>>320160014
>moddable
not until Creation Kit and F4SE comes out, faggot
>>320160205
you think people thought it was already out?
>>320159601
>They should have made the animations scale with the FOV like every other game
BEHOLD ONE OF THE TOP 10 PC GAMES OF ALL TIME.
>>320160387
wat
>>320148257
Here's some problems I would add to that list:
>Weapon variety is a bit lacking, especially Unarmed
>Enemies are still bullet spongey as all hell, those mobsters in the rich/poor vault took like 3 direct headshots from fully upgraded .50 hunting rifle ON NORMAL
>Glowing Sea doesn't offer any unique monsters
>Crafting is tied behind levels
>The jetpack is seriously disappointing
>Power Armor and Fusion cores are so common it defeats the whole purpose of even having fusion cores. Also the fact that there are so many suits of power armor lying around in the open really annoys me
>Companions will suck your dick if you pick enough locks, regardless of whether or not you actually care.
>You can pick up any weapon in the game without any skill/stat requirement
That's all off the top of my head
>>320160014
>able to make them to any sort of AAA+ standard.
Wait, Fallout 4 was a AAA game?
Because last I checked, it looked and played like it was made in 2005.
>>320160014
But anon, AAA standard is ded.
>>320160495
The left side of the crossbow isnt finished because player increase the FOV
>>320160331
Probably, people who mod games are slaves to the massives. They have no idea how mods work, they just know how to install and download them.
>>320160712
you sound like a disgruntled B student fresh out of highschool
>>320149564
>Yeah I'm done 'til the DLC comes out and gets cracked
You know how the DLC in this game works, right?
>>320160856
Too bad I don't give a fuck what you think.
>>320160014
Yeah okay it's not easy, but a lot of the problems with Fallout 4 are design decisions - dumbing down the dialogue, removing skills/reworking perks, the power armor system, enemy bullet sponges, RNG based weapon drops just to name a few.
I played New Vegas for like 220 hours despite it being a technically horrible game that crashes all the time. So technology definitely isn't my main gripe with Fallout 4
>>320160856
congratulation, you finally understood /v/
>>320160014
>AAA+ standard.
You mean having almost all the budget going toward marketing, the lion's share of the rest going into graphics design, and the gameplay being an afterthought that is deliberately dumbed down to hell so you might have many contents but they're all shallow as hell?
>>320161003
thats why you are disgruntled m8 and will be actively replying on 4chan for at least 5 months
>>320161003
so you are admitting that he is right but you just don't care?
>>320148257
It's gotta be better than 3, right?
>>320160014
Guaranteed replies: the post
>why aren't we flooded with better open world games?
But baitmaster, we are. I'll refrain from listing any because you'll just come up with more inflammatory reasons as to why none of them are as good as FO4.
>>320161079
>>320161124
He's not right, I just don't give a single fuck what he thinks. I just stated my opinion and if he doesn't agree then fuck it.
>>320161275
>I just don't give a single fuck what he thinks
sure aint proving it
>No ammo crafting
I'm STILL butthurt about this.
>>320161314
I don't give a single fuck what you think either, fuck off
>>320161218
I've seen my friend playing Fallout 4, while I just finished Fallout 3 (before New Vegas, which gave me a headstart in best game I ever played), and it is bad.
Third Fallout was somewhat entertaining and a bit RPG-like. This is striaght up FPS, even fucking Black Ops 2 was more RPG game.
>>320156313
>and how much more boring would they be if they didn't speak? would be bad game design
>find upgrade to your pipboy that allows you to tap into synth frequency
Wow so difficult to make it interesting, fix the problem and keep it make sense.
>>320161418
While craft shit just to throw away, anon?
>>320161418
To be fair, it'd just be a reskinned gun crafting thing and everyone would just be waddling around with nuclear 9mm bullets.
>>320161314
Who gives a fuck faggot, jump off a bridge and smack the concrete.
>>320161074
>having almost all the budget going toward marketing
Yeah, fucking shitty devs trying to ensure enough of a profit on their game so that investors will fund bigger and better games in the future, right?
>the lion's share of the rest going into graphics design
Yup, they sure are dumb putting money into one of the most, if not THE most, important aspects of game design.
>the gameplay being an afterthought
It's fundamentally better than FO3's, the last major open world game released to put open world games on a new level.
>>320161597
> the last major open world game released to put open world games on a new level
it's Oblivion senpai :^)
>>320161418
Well, a mod let you craft ammo, but I guess it just won't be the same.
>>320161597
not even high quality bait to be honest senpai
>>320161597
>one of the most, if not THE most, important aspects of game design
Well it certainly wasn't roleplaying I can tell you that much
>>320161253
>But baitmaster, we are
No we aren't, to be honest. You could count the number of open world games made in the last half-decade or so that truly deserve the tile on probably two hands.
>>320161573
>Who gives a fuck faggot
such irony
>>320161491
It's a shame they couldn't combine the obviously vastly improved combat with the RPG mechanics of NV.
I hope Obsidian gets a hold of the FO4 tech.
>>320161703
It is actually better
>have 1000 material
>store them in workbench instead of lugging around or use the shitty mojave express
>>320161597
this guy
>befriended Covenant
>nightime
>some houses with door closed
>Cait decides to walk inside one
>whole town goes hostile on me
Well, fuck you all then.Still having tons of fun with this game.
>>320161903
Why not ID tech, Obsidian enjoy tunneling the player after all :^)
>>320150552
>>No reason to target anything but the head
>Wrong depending on the enemy.
elaborate
because i consider that bullshit... i'm pretty sure that 95% of the times i used vats were to score headshots.
if you want to cripple someone legs you drop a grenade or a mine, shooting their trigger arm or their weapon seems pretty useless since with that time you could already just have killed them
>>320161253
We are?
Off the top of my head I can only think of The Witcher 3 and Mad Max this year
I didn't think it would be possible to make a game as shallow and boring as Skyrim, but once again Bethesda blows my expectations out of the water.
I barely put 100 hours into FO4 before I was bored. Every other game, even Skyrim, I dumped at least 200-300 before I got bored and had to heavily mod the game out.
>>320162069
how the fuck did she enter locked doors?
When does GECK come out for FO4?
Game is unbearably bare-bones.
>>320162164
The only people who can make worse dialogue than F3 are Bethesda, funnily enough
>>320162164
I didn't even get to 100 hours in skyrim before getting bored.
Tried to play it again recently, go through the intro and just uninstalled it.
>>320162257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmWrgwde7O8
>>320162157
Witcher 3 world is just as "open" as dark souls with npc routines.
Mad Max is literally asscreed with cars.
>>320162167
they lied
One thing I really don't like is power armor spawns based on your level.
It feels really restricting and kind of punishes you for exploring too early
>>320162164
Vanilla Skyrim was nothing more than a sandbox amusement dressed up as an RPG. I love that game, but I also really, really hate it.
It is an iconic game granted and it is fun.
>>320160014
>technologically accomplished
>>320162352
But it is pretty open. It's a huge map and it's got lots of stuff to do. I thought that was the definition of open world
>>320162167
It just works okay.
>>320162435
>using powerarmor at any point but the initial tutorial deathclaw fight
>>320162435
power armor spawning is dumb
ripping Pa frames from the still hot corpses of bandits/bitches of Maxson and some supa mutant Power Armor are more rad.
Thanks Todd for his effort on refining mmo item spawn.
>>320162394
Who?
>>320162539
What works?
>>320148257
Anon, you didn't have to post a full review of the game
>>320162614
Nice bait sandpie
>>320162649
Wait, can you steal power armor frames from dead BoS soldiers?
>>320162352
>I'll refrain from listing any because you'll just come up with more inflammatory reasons as to why none of them are as good as FO4
that's literally what you just did
>>320162772
>Who?
your memory that shitty?
>>320162772
I already told you to not ask questions dreamboy
>>320152420
Why does this game barely look better than NV? I think my modded NV looks better...
>>320162849
No, just the plates.
Just want Todd to stop spawn power armor just because. They dont grow on trees,
>No 9mm weapons
Fucking why? The 9mm pistol is a staple in any shooter
>>320148257
>Radiation has no effect other than reducing maximum health
What else should it do? You can't just complain about something like this and not offer a superior alternative.
>No reason to target anything but the head
Limbs are often easier to hit and can be helpful in debilitating fast enemies like ghouls.
>The synths speak out loud to communicate with eachother
Do they speak to each other? I've never heard that. All synth speech seems to be directed at the player or themselves.
>Glowing One body texture animation doesn't loop correctly, persists after death
Isn't it their blood that's glowing? Their bodies don't drain of the stuff when you kill them. People don't turn white or blue or whatever immediately after being shot.
>No continuing quest to help USS Constitution get to the ocean, just sits on the building it lands in forever
Presumably everything is so damaged that even with your help they'd need a century to get moving.
Also there's a hole in the ship's hull so it would immediately sink anyway, which would be extremely disappointing.
>Scavengers from said quest turn hostile wether or not you decide to help them
All scavengers in the game are hostile, they momentarily treat you nicely because they have bigger fish to fry and potentially need your help.
As for:
>Nick's exposed metal jaw doesn't articulate when he speaks, despite his chin bobbing up and down
Autism.
The rest is bullshit, though.
>>320152420
What the fuck? Why is there a flying boat?
>>320163132
Because 9mm are shit.
>>320163061
They grow in cages, aparently
>>320163046
The game is much more gorgeous than NV and Fallout 3. It's just the LOD outside is really underwhelming. But it does look good at close range and in sunny days.
>>320150552
>expecting other people to fix ur game
shit argument
>>320163314
>he didn't play one of the few good quests in the game
>Virgil has glasses taped to his head while he's a super mutant.
>He doesn't wear glasses when he becomes human again.
BETHESDA COME ON AT LEAST TRY
>>320163314
The boat was on its way to the atlantic before it crashed
>>320163504
Isn't it possible that his vision went to shit because of the FEV exposure? The same thing happened to his fine motor skills.
>>320163504
The cure could have potentially had other side effects as well.
>>320163390
>This game which came out 5-7 years later has better graphics
no...really...but how?
>>320148293
>Persistent corpses, settlers evidently okay with the smell
That's not a prolem, really.
Also you forgot to mention how settlers are FUCKING INVINCIBLE
but at least there's a mod for that, finally
>>320163314
Just 'cause
>>320163132
9mm would be too overpowered
>>320163764
Just pointing the discrepancy in the graphics. No need to be passive agressive about it champ.
>>320148257
>>320148293
at least half of this is already fixed by mods, search at fallout nexus
>>320165267
complainers don't understand how to open up a ini file
>>320162134
Deathclaw's weakspot is the belly and for robots you do alot more damage to the torso as well
>>320163428
Why are the minor sidequests always so much better than the actual game? Is it just that Todd stops caring and the writers can actually have fun? Fuck finding my son, I just want to hang out with the beer robot.
>>320165267
>>320165385
If you need mods to make a game not trash, the game itself is inherently trash.
>>320165401
>>Deathclaw's weakspot
really? because i always shot them in the head...
on the bots i usually go for the arms - or the combat inibitor on the back if possible
>>320165746
and all i wrote is complainers dont know how to open up a ini file. you must go to a safespace college campus
>>320165267
That's like saying the car you brought is still good because you can have someone repair all the faulty parts for you.
>>320165267
>at least half of this is already fixed by mods
lel nope
>>320165882
If you need mods to make a game not trash, the game itself is inherently trash.
Disregarding all criticism as "Complainers" is how games get shittier and shittier.
>>320165917
not even repair, you basically need to change/update all the parts to the point you wonder if it is even the same car.
>>320165917
You can take any shitty car and mod it into perfection. It's all about what you make of it. So comparing to cars is actually a compliment.
>>320166112
>If you need mods to make a game not trash
i didnt write that.
i wrote complainers dont know how to use a ini file. in fact complainers just are bad at almost everything but complaining
>>320166181
Yes you did. All the complaints OP held are primarily pointing out how the game is trash. Your answer to him was to mod the game.
Developers shouldn't expect players to do half of the fucking QA for them.
>>320166130
what the fucking are you smoking?
The product that was sold to you is still a mess, you are basically changing enough aspect of the car to the point it is not even the same car by any records.
>>320166407
>Yes you did.
oh so you are one of those people who consider /v/ one person.
how are you liking that replay of new vegas, broseph?
>>320151576
Mods don't count. Its not up to the community to make a worth while game
>>320166541
The fuck are you talking about?
You agreed with the fucker who said the problem can be fixed with mods, which isn't the solution, it's the core of the problem.I just beat Someguy's The Inheritance mod. I tried it before but it'd crash halfway into one of the end fights.
>>320166130
if a company is selling a shitty car as their product, the product identity is still shitty no matter how much you mod your own car.
Did I do good?
>>320154758
>>320156313
>nitpicky
jesus you're fucking stupid.
>>320166465
>>320166858
You don't know how much i paid or what my modding intentions are. All that matters is what you want from it. Many people buy shitty cars for modding it. Why would you buy an amazing car if you gonna scrap many parts of it anyway.
Are you sure this isnt Bioshock? It looks like Bioshock to me...
>>320148257
>>"Construction Lights" give off little illumination despite requiring a unit of power
This shit bothers me in FO3 as well. Fucking bombed out house or fucking rubble cave will have functioning electric lights and no explanation of what is fucking powering them. It is a wasteland, FFS, it is not like con-ed is fucking maintaining the grid...
>>320166774
>You agreed
i agreed did i? thats grade A BS on your side.
>>320167068
>Buy the latest Mac
>completely change its hardware to PC type components.
>Tell everybody how great the latest Mac is
>>320167361
You had no other reaso nto reply to his post other than to (assumedly) agree with him and then add on some reason as to why someone wouldn't count mods (Which aren't even from the developers, and therefore defies their intent) as to why a game shouldn't be considered trash.
>>320167542
i had a 100% valid reason. a one liner.
so answer me this, are you like real into debating? do you think something is won? like if we agree with you, fallout 4 will vanish and or reality will shift for you and F)4 is exactly what you wanted?
do you know how to open and edit a ini file?
>>320167776Half of the mods I use involve fucking with the .ini file, along with fixing texture paths and cleaning the mods up so they actually work.
>>320167496
Normally mod into something that doesn't exist. A PC already exists. But in one scenario your stupid analogy is possible: if there's some inner config inside a MAC that with the right tweaks and a little investment makes it incredibly powerfull in comparison to your average PC.
>>320167891
>Half of the mods I use involve fucking with the .ini file
you go glen coco!
>we recorded thousands of popular names!
>only hear it one or two times
is there more to it?
That one character calls you blue so they can avoid putting your name in for her dialogue
I mean fucking hell
>>320148257
They left Skyrim files in game and didn't even change the names of them.
Granted its for the skybox / clouds but still, keeping the same name 'Skyrimclouds' etc.
>>320148257
You make a game then I'll nit pick about things you could have added then I'll call your game shit. Seriously try to couch your comments in a less vitriolic and stubborn way
>>320168070
you have no idea what you are talking about don't you?
>>320168251
I thought the "Blue" idea was really neat until I talked to my friend who said Piper called his character Blue as well without ever seeing the vault suit
>>320168369
its just all for the sake of not recording her saying your actual name
>>320168290
I suppose you can't criticize any chef's cooking or complain about any sports team's performance without being a cheft or a professional athlete yourself.
fallout 4 is a fun game with improved gunplay and somewhat satisfying gameplay mechanics. I like some of the changes, honestly. That said, I played through it in about 90 hours and i've done almost everything. Haven't gotten Cait's last quest or maccready's at all. Think I've done literally every unique side quest. allied with the institute. here are some more complaints
>less content than any bethesda game
>bugs out the ass and janky dialogue system
>shit hamfisted writing typical of bethesda
>game is balanced poorly in terms of loot and some instances where you fight legendary creatures/people.
did anyone manage to save kent in the silver shroud? fuckin A i bet i could do it with my current character but at the time i had to take psycho, a nuka cola quantum and use my best gun to kill that guy. same with slag
>less dialogue than in previous games, characters are spread thin and have almost no characterization. Garvey is about as interesting as a sack of nails, strong's motivations are retarded and unclear, your son never really even touches base with you, you never talk about your dead wife, npcs in most towns have little to nothing to say
they did some aspects of the game fantastically, namely atmosphere and gameplay. They did the typical bethesda thing and fucked up the story. Its games like this that showcase how poorly AAA titles do storytelling. Maybe i'm alone with this, but after not seeing my son for weeks or months and hes an old fucking man, i want to hear some shit. I want him to talk to me, i wanna learn what he's done for 60 years, but instead its literally summed up in about 5 sentences.
its a love hate thing with bethesda. I wouldn't bank on it but i would love an obsidian written game. A sequel to new vegas.
>>320168364
Take your pills. I can sense from here how that second hypothetical part triggered your autism.
>>320151238
>Why the fuck is the GECK not releasing until January?
They're probably setting the GECK behind a paywall or getting bethsoft.net, or what ever their website is, ready for paid mods
>>320148257
>Radiation has no effect other than reducing maximum health
At least it has some sort of game play effect other than sitting in a puddle for countless hours waiting to die of radiation poisoning.
>>320169215
At least you can fast travel out of that one since it's outdoors.
>>320169215
pointlessly locked door
http://imgur.com/m8H490i
>>320169380
yeah that what I did
>>320169403
>imgur
>>320169403
I'm pretty sure that one was a joke.
ok here are my nitpicks
mechanics
-no random crits, the idea of a guaranteed crit as a mechanic is fun, but making it in lieu of any other type of crit is pretty dumb, it's like they assumed that nobody would want to manually aim.
-no specialization, they designed this game so you would just have one character who spends 75% of gametime as an immortal superhero since there's no level cap or incentive for another run
-Settlements, half-baked idea, interesting in concept but extremely poorly implemented, no tangible benefits to making a prosperous settlement. At this level of sophistication it's filler on the level of wind waker's original triforce quest.
-weapons, it seems like they went out of their way to make sure that nothing looks like an actual weapon, real-world weapons like 9mm pistols and proper assault rifles are conspicuously absent
story
-literally everything, it feels like a teenager's fallout fanfiction he wrote during a history lesson on the american revolution.
by the way, calling it now: One of the dlc's will involve you playing as kellogg in san francisco, and going through all the stuff you see in his memories but for real.
>>320152470
>Enable Scanlines
UWOT
>>320170029
>no random crits
Not only that but perks that affect crits do not affect sneak crits. For example; the "better criticals" perk only makes your VATS crits better in FO4. Same with weapons that deal "double critical damage"
>>320163913
> NO, IT CAN'T BE TRUE!
> I CAN FLY IF I WANTED TO!
>>320170361
Pretty sure the scanlines are for the Pip-boy screen.
>>320165778
Their heads (and tail) are actually twice as armored as the rest of the body.
Fun fact: you can sever their tails while the deathclaw still lives.
>>320166970
For the Brotherhood
>>320148471
Morrowind was garbage though
>>320163390
Close Range and Sunny Days is the only thing that makes my modded NV look good.
It's like the Morrowind engine is a total piece of shit in 2015.
>>320170738
the only people who think that are oblivion children who couldn't handle not having compass markers or daggerfall players who have brain damage from spending 20 real-world hours walking between towns.
>>320162772
either it was a bug or the person who posted that lied and just murdered everyoneor completed the quest
>>320170574
That makes more sense.
>>320168251
It's genuinely the most pointless feature ever and I don't understand why they even wasted their time doing that.
>>320163390
That just looks like a modded Fallout 3.Because... well, it is.
>>320168852
>i would love an obsidian written game. A sequel to new vegas.
>obsidian was gutted after new vegas placed 1 point below the metacritic score necessary to for the company to earn a bonus from bethesda
>>320171207
I haven't lied.
It's obviously a bug. That happened like 2 hours later when i came back to dump my shit in the workshop.
Think the npc behavior did not update like they should after you complete the quest. So they still thought the inside of their houses were still tresspassing territory.
>>320148257
>melee attack (still) don't target individual body parts
pretty sure they did in 1-2-3-nv
>>320169215
>>320148257
>>320172617
>going on since skyrim
oblivion was trash tho
>>320172617
>implying I bought it
>>320172617
>This has been going on since fucking Skyrim people. FOUR. FUCKING. YEARS
Way to show your age kid, It started well before Skyrim.
Hell, it was already a meme by Skyrim.
>>320172835
Clunky as it is, I personally enjoyed Oblivion
>>320172906
As far as I know. Only got into Bethesda games when Oblivion came out.
>>320173137
Oblivion had mods up the ass tho, including SEVERAL unofficial patches that fixed thousands of bugs.
>>320172835
In Oblivion's case, it at least had lots of good quests and satisfactory Quake-esque combat.
Fallout 3 was what really started it, then spiraling out of control with Skyrim.
>>320163390
Well shit everything looks good at close range
>>320169380
how did you get out?
Mods will fix it(tm)
>>320151334
bethesda truly went full blown lazy on this installment. they as always will rely on the modding community to make the game thrive
>>320169102
this is a bad meme. the Creation Kit didn't release until Feb 2012 for Skyrim
>>320173737
IT'S A MIRACLE!!!
>>320151907
And the funniest thing is that the Combat Zone appears in the debut trailer, and everything about it point toward being an arena of some sort.
>>320173737
Holy shit.
Saved. I'm using this as evidence everywhere to all my dumb fuck friends
>>320159427
>>320170738
>Born in the late '90's
>>320152053
>>Godrays reducing your fps by 20~25 points if you don't have a Nvidia CardThey also remove 25fps on Nvidia cards.
>>320148257
Oh man, criticizing Fallout 4. So brave.
>>320173737
>Hey! What are you doing!?
>>320168861
not him, but come on, that shit is gibberish
>>320172617
It has been going on since their first console port: morrowind
>>320148257
>>No reason to target anything but the head
Legs to slow down/stop things like Deathclaws, the bomb-holding arm of SuperMutant suiciders.
There's actually more reason to shot limbs than previous fallouts. This is, also, literally the only actual improvement. Everything else has kind of... regressed to be even more shallow than Skyrim.
>>320169380
>Doing that at low level instead of waiting to be lvl 28 for the X-01
>>320148293
>robots lose parts with no statistical consequences
Blatant lie. They become faster and more aggressive as they become more crippled.
>>320176302
it is still deeper than skyrim
you dont grind your skills randomly, you put points into them. factions actually divert at some point, melee combats are not left click spam because you can get stunlock, have to manage power armor fuel at early level, random spawn dont work in your favor on very hard and above. it's quests that are the same deals: go to x, kill y, activate z, get back for reward.
>>320173887
Fast travel, presumably.
>>320173887
map travel
>>320176403
not even a full set
>>320160014
>technologically accomplished
Nah, Oblivion set the high water mark for NPC ai schedules, they actually did stuff, and every NPC but the guards and bandits was named and had some unique behaviour and dialogue.
>Can't tell the Institute to stop their stupid shit and actually further humanity with their crazy high tech that makes BoS Scribes cream themselves
>Can't hold Institute scientists prisoner if they don't help then get the BoS to run the facility and interrogate the scientists for certain information on running equipment and finding data
Even if they try to go behind your back, you're a goddamn one man army who will typically have very high Charisma and/or Intelligence. Doesn't matter what the fuck they say, you'll slap their shit around.
>Random Brahmin without any carvangarbage on it walking around in Sanctuary
>Shoot it
>Everyone gets upset and starts shooting at me
How the fuck is this retarded monster a settler?
>>320176635
>They become faster and more aggressive as they become more crippled.
I never noticed. Does the game say this anywhere?
>>320177885
If someone shot your only monster cow you might be mad too
>>320163390
>somehow, these textures are massive in size
>>320177885
>kill any chicken in Skyrim
>everyone wants to kill you
