all other opinions are void or rubbish.
>>320082234
Move Shadow the Hedgehog, the Sonic Adventure Games, and Rise of Lyric to "So Bad It's Good" Tier.
>>320082234
Where would the Sega Saturn version of Sonic 3D Blast's soundtrack be?
I seriously do not get why CD is rated so damn highly. Its like the only classic sonic I never played but the game just looks like they added a annoying time travel/objective game play mechanic that doesn't gel well with classic sonic. Its bad enough you have to hunt for the time travel signs on a vertical scale, but you have to go to the past and future and do tedious shit.
>>320082234
Adventure2 is worse than the first one. it should at least be in the same tier. Transformed should only be in good tier. I don't know why everyone ciclejerks over that game.
>>320082234
Sonic free riders doesnt represent the entire sonic riders series does it?
Because the first 2 were damn great.
>>320083065
Music
>>320083065
none of the time travel stuff is really required it's just a neat little gimmick, if you get the time stones from the special stages (same way to enter them as sonic 1 if memory serves) you get the good ending anyway
>>320082234
Where the fuck is Sonic Rush Adventure?
>>320083065
The way I see it, you can't please everyone.
>Elder God
CD and 2
>Great
1, 3&K, Colors
>Don't bother
Everything else.
I mean they're not all irredeemable piles of shit, but why bother splitting hairs?
Hey, quick poll:
For people who DON'T like the mech/treasure stages in Sa2, why don't you like them?
For people who DO, why do you like them?
I'm in the latter group. For treasure stages, I think they are fun to just chill in. Speed stags are super high paced and require precisee timing, and mech stages require a lot of "kill this guy quickly or else you are gonna get reekt by him", in treasuree stages you can take it easy and just chill out and glide around, and it's sorta puzzle like trying to figure out where pieces are.
For mech levels, there's nothing about them I particularly love but I don't think there's much wrong with them either.
>>320083770
I never got the circlejerk around 2 and that's the one I grew up on
1 isn't as good but I still had more fun with it and 3K blows it out of the fucking water
>>320083065
You're absolutely right. Except Taxman's remake removes loading times and the game suddenly goes from dogshit to 10/10.
Taxman's Sonic 1 and 2 on Steam when?
Sonic 06 is a fucking treasure, man.
It's the best badgood game.
Deadly Premonition ain't got shit on that.
>>320082234
Sonic Generations needs to move up one. Sonic Unleashed needs to move down one. Shadow the Hedgehog needs to either be removed or moved up one, because it was a good game, but was not a sonic game. 3D Blast and Lost World need to be switched. Sonic 4 Episode 1 is fine where it is but Episode 2 should be in Meh or Okay tier. Secret rings and Free Riders need to be moved up one and Sonic Genesis needs to be moved down one.
Then it's good.
>>320083770
>CD in Elder God
Not with those clusterfuck level designs
>>320083873
For treasure stages they're too damn long (I don't give a shit how fast they are if you play the game religiously enough to know exactly what to do, that requires me to want to subject myself to that crap again in the first place) and the scanning system is an objective step down from how it was in Adventure. I don't outright hate them but I'm not a fan, and my main gripe is one it shares with the mech stages that I'll get into in a moment.
Mech stages are just fucking shit. I can't even explain why, there's something about them that makes me livid whenever I have to play one. Maybe it's the loud beeping noise that is going on the entire time because of your weapons. Or maybe it's how slow and shitty I feel in a mech. Or maybe it's just because I already didn't like Gamma's stages in Adventure and these really aren't any better.
But really my main issue with both is that they break up the pace in a horrible way. If I want to play as Sonic, I wanna play as fucking Sonic. I don't want to spend four stages going between tails and knuckles before I earn the right to just play one stage as Sonic again. In Adventure this wasn't a problem, so I can't for the life of me figure out why they regressed in the later games. This applies to most post-adventure games really. Even in Generations if you happen to not like classic or modern, you still have to play both to keep going.
>>320083873
I just found them boring. I recently played A2 and there were 2 Eggman stages in a row. I just turned off the game. Treasure hunting levels were annoying too.
>>320084340
>>320082234
Generations is extremely overrated.
If the 3d levels didn't have 2d sections and the level design wasn't so flat for them and boost wasn't a thing, it;d be as good as people say it is.
>>320084342
Not him, but all of the designs were great except for Collision Chaos Act 1 and The last act before the last boss
>>320082234
>Generations in God tier
>Lost World in Ok
>Battle in good
>Sonic 4 Episode 2 in Meh
>Shadow in bad
That's how I'd change the list to suit my taste. As to why I moved Lost World and Generations, playing it in 60+ FPS makes a massive difference. These games weren't designed with 30 FPS in mind. I'm not trying to sound like some mustard faggot, but the console version and PC versions are like night and day compared to each other. It's a great enhancement to the gameplay especially when it's a platformer that requires good reflexes/reaction.
Episode 2 was better than Episode 1, and it'd fun with a friend, but I still wouldn't call it good. Shadow was plain boring and having to replay stages in a certain manner is a fucking chore. Battle is always fun and impressive as a GBA title.
>>320084342
the only truly shit stage is wacky workbench
admittedly stardust speedway ain't great
rest were fine though
>>320082582
>didn't play the genesis games
Lost World is the most underrated Sonic game and I don't get why everyone hates on it like it's as bad as the sixth gen sonic games
Move Sonic racing to good tier and everything meh tier and above to trash and we're good.
>>320084342
THANK YOU.
I'm really glad someone else said that. CD was great, both those fucking stages sometimes holy shit.
>>320084585
As long as it's Above Unleashed, then okay.
>>320083873
Honestly, i like them because i got to play as the characters i liked.
Knuckles will always be my favorite, so naturally it would stand to reason that my young mind would like the treasure hunting stages. I never wondered why i liked them, i just know i did.
I couldnt even tell you why i like Sonic's boost style gameplay more than the adventure style.
>>320084639
it literally says "3D Sonic" in the filename, anon. If I went through every game, even just every mainline game, I'd be working on it for too damn long to bother finishing it.
>>320084585
I hated having 2D shoved down my throat so much. Colors was the same game, but at least it wasn't jarring to have the game outright admit that "half the game is all 2D, and the other half is mostly 2D"
Colors>>>>>>>Generations
There's more content, and the level design is more varied and interesting. Sure, all the wisps except the block were just gimmicks, and the bosses were rehashed, but overall I think it was a much better game. I don't see why everyone sings generation's praises so much, especially compared to Colors.
>>320083873
Eggman Stages: Fun little diversions where you stack high combos and blow shit up.
Tails Stages: Clusterfucks that are essentially straight corridors also rescuing sonic or some shit.
I got all A's on Eggman before I even finished Shadow's stages. Eggman's stages were GOAT, especially Cosmic Wall, the only Mech stage to ever beat a sonic stage in the /v/ SA2 level competition.
>>320085124
I dunno if I'd go as far as to say that eggman's stages are that good but I will say the only time I didn't get upset to see a mech stage was the first eggman one. That was pretty fun.
Either way yeah it is pretty clear that eggman was intended to be playable from start and tails was an afterthought.
>>320085115
Maybe, but I'm a sucker for boss fights, and Generations had some really good ones.
Death Egg Robot and the Silver Fight were both great, but I cant deny the fact that Colors had that robot boss when you're in the Meteor Rollercoaster level? That boss was fucking great. I love sonic boss battles.
>>320082234
I came here to call your taste shot but I actually agree with this list.
>>320085504
>I'm a sucker for boss fights, and Generations had some really good ones.
shame the final one was literally the worst boss I've ever fought in my life
Switch Black Knight and Boom and it's pretty much dead on.
>>320085630
It's really quite the conundrum, isn't it?
Even the Egg Dragoon was fantastic in comparison.
The Time Eater was a shit salad.
Let's cut the shit and just say it as it is
PLAY:
>1
>2
>3&K
>CD
>Colors
>Generations
>Adventure series
>heroes
>riders
>all stars transformed
>Tails' Adventure
>any and all the compilation packs
Stay away from everything else unless you're bored and up for a laugh
>>320086052
>heroes
>>320086052
Oh yeah and the Advance series
>>320082234
>Storybook games are trash
>No riders except for free
>All 3D platformers that are actually platforming instead of boosty gofast are below good
It's shit senpai
>>320086141
Fuck off, Heroes was good and it deserves to be played
>>320086273
Heroes is terrible. It's in that horrible, horrible intersection of being bad but not being so bad it's good.
I genuinely don't get how anyone can enjoy it. I had more fun with Sonic 06.
>>320082234
>wonder why sonic on the GBA is considered bad
>play it
how can a port fuck up a game so much?
>>320083873
I like the variation in gameplay. If everyone played like Sonic/Shadow, I'd get bored. It's like in Rush, where there's literally no reason to pick Sonic over Blaze
Dreams Collection
>>320086052
Battle was moderately entertaining. Could sink a lot of time in and enjoying yourself as the yellow robot in endgame as a deathmachine.
>>320086474
It just feels like a solid 3D sonic platformer with the added gimmick of other movement options. The only bad thing is going through each stage four times.
>>320086219
>tfw Insonicnia was never finished.
he just stopped updating one day
>>320086474
>great soundtrack
>sweet teamwork gimmick
>chose your own team aspect
>ANNIHILATE
>emeralds aren't forced into story
>secret stages return
>eggman's not the main enemy
>speaking of which, the return of Metal sonic
>SONIC GETS HIS TEAM'S SHIT TOGETHER WITH SOME TEAM EXERCISES WOAAAAAAAH WOAAAAAAH
It's a really solid sonic game, but eh, I guess we all have our own options
>>320086945
Oh, he stopped updating more than once. I think he's one of the few people to beat Nuzlocke in that department.
>>320087195
ANNIHILATE
CHARGE
FIRE
>>320083994
>Sonic CD was dogshit before the Taxman remake
No, you fucking retard. The original version of Sonic CD has been critically-acclaimed release, and was listed as the twelfth-best platformer of all time by GamePro in 2009. In fact, from what I've witnessed, people who liked the original version don't tend to like the Taxman version as much.
>>320082234
>sonic colors good
Come on SA and SA2 were better.
>>320087195
Ahem,
WOOOOAH LOOK AT ALL THOSE EGGMAN ROBOTS
Generations is god-tier on the PC I would say simply because you are able to play the Unleashed mod and use a few neat character mods, like Blaze, who is really fun to play.
By itself, as in, if you were to play it on the PS3, it's just a decently good game.
That said, Rush is underrated, except by its fans, who overrate it.
>>320087627
We're not going there, are we?
>>320087390
>critically-acclaimed release
Shit.
>critically-acclaimed SINCE release
>>320084619
Lost world is 60fps on the Wii u
>sonic adventures are that low
>shadow the hedgehog is even remotely close to either of them
NO
>>320082234
Spinball not on your list OP? It's a shit list.
>>320087627
God who approved that quote anyway?
Sonic Battle needs to be moved up a few pegs on that list.
>>320088067
"All those Eggman's robots" is supposed to be funny. Tails's voice-actor is still shit, though.
>>320087195
>>sweet teamwork gimmick
>>sweet teamwork gimmick
>>sweet teamwork gimmick
>>320088504
It's just so grammatically wrong though
Augh it just fucks my OCD up
>>320088558
Switching between team mates at will and using their abilities to an advantage was a fun gimmick in my option
And definitely better then werehog, guns, and FISHING
>>320088558
What, can't handle theSUPER POWER OF TEAMWORK?
I loved Sonic games. Every one of them. Even the trashy Game Gear ones.
....Then I played Sonic Heroes.
Never again.
>>320082234
Im a Sonicfag but I agree with your opinion.
I remember last Tuesday when for the first time in /v/ history we had a solid Sonic thread that didn't involve flinging shit at one another.
>>320082234
>No Tails' Adventure or Tails Sky patrol
>>320082234
>Lumping all the advance games together
The only good games are Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, and A1 (A2 was complete shit and "Hold right to win" defined)
Sonic CD has completely different styled level design than any other Sonic game, and it just doesn't work well with the momentum based gameplay that Sonic games are.
>>320089676
>Sonic CD is shit
I guess that explains why it's a fan-favorite, huh?
>>320091902
>It's popular so it must be good!
The GBA version of Sonic 1 is by far the worst sonic game. It's almost unplayable at a technical level. The physics are broken, and the game chugs to a halt for no reason. In the water it takes 4 real life seconds for the game timer to move 1 second due to lag. It's one of the worst games on the GBA.
>>320082234
>no sonic riders 1
>kek
>>320092174
Popular =/= well-received, you fucking mongoloid.
>>320083873
>precise timing
Idk what levels you're talking about but none of them really required precise timing.
>>320083881
Sonic 2 was pretty much the only Sonic game i liked. I haven't played Knuckle yet but 3 alone felt like a rushed turd compared to 2. And 1 was way too slow.
>>320082234
>knuckles
>western developed buggy trash
>never worked with older cartridges
Only somebody who never had a genesis could like knuckles
>hating on shuffle
