What went wrong /v/?
twitch is not the right audience for that game
>>320009616
>>320009616
Nothing. After the movies normies will discover this game and buy it en masse.
>>320009823
>http://swbstats.com/
>150k peak across all platforms
>barely 1 month old
compare to
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
>original
>dedicated spawns (and only if that point is captured)
>classes have defined loadouts, inhibiting range and other counters in to a single playstyle per
>stamina system
>a roll; there's more than just standing there, and there's depth to getting instigated from behind
>jetpack "stamina" (fuel) that recharges only on the ground; can be conserved in-air by toggling
>air vehicle rolls and boost on a stamina system (4 speeds altogether)
>off-rails AT-AT
>multi-character ships
>remake
>squad spawns, undermining strategy and tactical awareness by allowing spawning anywhere
>no classes; every character can take some combination of unlimited grenades (x2), a sniper, a jetpack, a shield, plus their ordinary loadout; thus, every character can have any range or any playstyle
>no roll; gunplay is just staring at each other unless you have a shield or jetpack; instigating from behind is basically a guaranteed engagement win
>jetpack is like injection nitrous; it's on, then on CD (no conservation)
>air vehicles can only roll and boost on card CD as well
>on-rails AT-AT
>etc.
BfrontII is still the better game without contest. BfrontII has better movements, shooting, maps, OPTIONS for how to go about battles, more heroes, the much needed ability to remove heroes from the map, better balancing thanks to each faction having a solid counter-vehicle to each other, and along with having classes comes seeing more variety in troopers. Not all EU shit either, but imperial gunners, scouts, jump troopers, and commanders are all there.
All the new Bfront offers are touched up visuals and.... air battles? I guess? It's really just an extension of ace combat horizon anyway, which was an awful game.
No roll, no buy.
>>320010107
I think a lot of normies remember BF2 and see how shit the new one is
>>320009616
Pretty much everything besides visuals and sound.
Its like buying a good 60+ inch tv, then after setting it up, you realize that half the screen won't turn on and the only way to turn it on, is to fork out another 1000 bucks. This is what battlefront is, its half a fucking game, and when you want more, EA asks for another 60 bucks.
>"There'll be character customization options! Look at these different possibilities for your soldier!"
>literally just a selection of a small handful of faces and like 3 hairstyles, with absolutely no other features or even the ability to change hair or skin color, all locked behind LEVEL and also having to pay credits to unlock a fucking beard
>Alien species locked behind the highest level restrictions because fuck aliens
>>320010197
Doing God's work
>>320010197
if people added the fact that guns overheating is retarded AMMO IS CANON same goes for the retarded magic gernades
>>320009616
Game is so boring, not even meme slingers can keep people entertained.
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/83364/star-wars-battlefront-2015/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/83363/star-wars-battlefront-2015/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/83365/star-wars-battlefront-2015/
>nearly 6 million units sold
>dead or even a failure
It's star wars so it's catering to nostalgiafags but the gameplay is designed to be played by 8 year olds who wouldn't even know what the fuck star wars it.
>>320011627
What was Evolve's statistics?
>>320011627
>13 millions expected in the first week
>less than 50% achieved
>not a failure
Real world doesn't work the way you think, son.
>BF2
>want to fly a spaceship
>walk up to a spaceship at base and get in it
>BF EA
>want to fly a spaceship
>have to randomly fucking wander the map aimlessly until you see a spaceship powerup, then somehow manage to get to it wherever it is (likely in the line of enemy fire because they spawn without rhyme or reason) and pick it up and use it before either getting shot or having a teammate spawn right on top of it and steal it from you
As someone who has actually played the game for about 60+ hours.
>DL-44 incredibly broken in short range, too high of fire rate while being a two-shot weapon.
>Was given out as a freebie for pre-ordering so nearly everyone has one.
>T-21 blaster rifle 3-shots an enemy at any distance, and at closer ranges 2-shots them and is only outclassed by the DL-44.
>"Custom Class" abilities are more obnoxious than anything else and absolutely have no counterplay.
>For instance, if you use the Jetpack and the Bowcaster, 9/10 times you will get free kills (and many times multiple free kills) nearly every time.
>Homing Shot is impossible to dodge unless you have cover or the Jetpack skill and has a .5 second lock on time so even when I'm shooting someone with the DL-44 point blank I'll die too because of their lock-on bullshit.
>Imagine maps like Hoth where there's almost zero cover.
>A lot of people complain about Rebels not having land vehicles, and while this is a legit complaint, I'd argue that makes more sense on Supremacy mode rather than Walker Assault where Rebels have access to a plethora of defensive turrets.
>AT-ST is paper anyways, because there is absolutely no counterplay to Ion Torpedos when you're in that clunky piece of shit and it dies to just 3 Ion Torpedos half of the time.
>The air game is absolutely ridiculous. X-Wings are fine, but A-Wings are actually UNHITTABLE when you're locked on with lasers if they're circling around you because the A-Wing model is so tiny. Missiles can only hit A-Wings.
>Dogfighting consists of getting an easy kill when your enemy is distracted by shooting infantry or a head-to-head conflict that will end in the Rebels winning every time because of their shield that blocks like 80% damage.
>On Squadron mode, the Millennium Falcon can actually one shot Slave 1 by ramming Boba with his shield up.
fuck dude it's like they didn't even play it before launch
>>320011627
>Black Ops 3
>completely awful game
>13M
>>320011818
unless they put in like 200 million into entire budget, it's not a failure you complete retard
>>320013536
>achieve less than 50% of the objective isn't a failure
Is a big failure, like Millenials like you raised under that "positive reinforcement" thing.
>>320011627
EA was expecting at least 10mil
so yeah, it is
>>320012862
>That last greentext
Jesus Christ is there a video of this?
>>320014046
Weren't they projecting 13 mil?
>>320009616
/v/ could name a lot of things, but it doesn't matter. It's got Disney marketing behind it and despite any valid complaints or issues, it's gonna sell like shit because "muh nostalgia" "chewie we're home XD" and Disney marketing. The same applies to the new movie and its sequels.
>>320012862
It's the little things that made BF so great, and it's the little things that make EA BF so disappointing.
I'm sure the developers said that they played the original games for hours and hours to capture the feel of them, but the way it turned out, it's more like BF was described to them by a drunk person whose first language isn't English
>>320014541
*meant to type it's gonna sell like pancakes*
Fuck it, I'm tired.
>>320014541
>It's got Disney marketing behind it and despite any valid complaints or issues, it's gonna sell like
..OK, I seem to know where this is going --
>shit
Wot.
>because Disney marketing
They have lots of marketing potential. They also might have absolutely nothing to do with marketing the game until the movie is playing, at best.
>>320013381
nah it's pretty fun
>>320013536
they probably spent next to $100 mil alone just on marketing
>>320011627
>>320014046
>>320014393
http://hexus.net/gaming/news/industry/87728-ea-shift-13-million-copies-star-wars-battlefront-march/
>>320014393
they were projecting 13 million in a few months from now
this game might double in sales on christmas
>>320014642
>>320014705
Ahh, then.
>>320014541
>>320014642
True, they are going to advertise it like mad during Christmas.
>>320014926
If you use and browse social media, it's gonna be full of memes aka screencaps of screencaps and it's gonna be hell.
>>320014835
Yeah the Movie release and christmas are going to boost sales up again
but still there is barely any friend word of mouth recommendation because the game lacks depth. Most people just play it maybe 50 hours before seeing everything and getting bored
>>320014807
>>320014835
As much as I would like to see the game bomb, sounds like they're kind of on the right track to get where they need to be.
>>320011627
>vgchartz
Are you kidding me,mdude? If this game sold 5 +million in a week EA would be fucking gloating right now. What's even more hilarious is that there are no actual sources for the six million and Vgchartz hasnbeen proven to make up their numbers. Even the owner of the website said so.
>>320009616
It's a shallow game with very little content that's being sold for $60.
>rent game to see if it's shit for myself
>first ten minutes have a fucking blast
>graphics are awesome
>all those classic sounds
>flying x-wings and tie fighters is a blast
And it's all thrown to shit because EA are a bunch of greedy bastards. If this game just had content it would be great. EA can't keep getting away with it.
Does it have splitscreen co-op?
>>320015124
>If you use and browse social media
Where do you think you are?
You are right about the rest tho.
>>320015221
We don't really know that. No one here actually knows how well or poorly the game sold and te only source of it selling well is vgchartz, and they are far from a reputable source of information. the latest NPD makes it seem like the game sold poorly, at least in the USA.
>>320015293
Yes, only in a wave mode though, no online or pvp
>>320014258
>>320014587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1F8J1TTNKg
I can confirm, did it myself in-game. It's fucking stupid.
>>320009616
How could they fuck this up, seriously.
They could've just remade Battlefront 2 and it would've been better that this crap.
>>320016075
God that looks like shit. No sense of speed whatsoever. It looks just like when you're fighting on the ground but on a third axis.
>>320012862
>dl 44 was a preorder bonus
oh that explains it. that gun is fucking stupid and EVERYONE seems to have it but me. it's locked behind a very high level.
I'm only level 12 now and i'm just getting fucked and I feel like I just don't have the tools to deal with anything at this level.
>>320015775
>noticed the same trend for battlefield 3 and 4
Didn't Battlefield 4 severely underperform? I'm pretty sure it sold like shit in comparison to 3 and EA expected way more sales.
>>320016598
I didn't even know that, but I was surprised when it's the first thing you could unlock.
Explains I guess.
>>320009616
They took a series that was pretty similar to their own IP and then proceeded to strip it of hallmark features of both their IP and the games predecessors, leaving an extremely mediocre shooter in a star wars setting.
>>320009616
>Not enough heroes,
>No Space Battles,
>Only 4 planets,
>barely any customization
>EA price tag
>>320016598
>it's locked behind a very high level.
fucking classic EA.
They copy cawadooty, except they keep fucking up with this one way. COD avoids that by unlocking top stuff early, and by encouraging players to go through the unlocks again and again.
EA's shit is unplayable after the first wave hits top level because they get dramatically better stuff.
>>320009616
Consumers are faggots. Games alright
I just bought this...did i fuck up?
>>320017570
If you enjoy it, play it.
>>320017206
The CoD unlock method is not designed to be a pain in the ass. it's constantly throwing shit at you. it appeals to retards by rewarding the player non stop. you unlock things at a very fast pace, like every other game you are getting something shiny.
Dice games on the other hand do it like a f2p game, they make the grind excruciatingly slow and they lock very important stuff behind walls.
in bad company 2 the sniper class did not even start with a fucking sniper rifle. the medic class did not start with a med pack or defribs. and battlefront is the same, they design a complete functioning soldier, then strip it and lock everything behind massive XP walls so until you get to that point you just flounder around the battlefield getting preyed upon by the people who have all that shit unlocked. and dice keeps fucking doing it in every game. i'm 25 hours into battlefront and i'm FINALLY starting to unlock some of the essential things so that I can simply function on the battlefield. i'm still NOWHERE near unlocking the dl 44 though which is a game changer.
>>320017570
How is that related to the thread?
And no they patched BF4 into a playable game and because of the continued support the playerbase grew again and is now highest on PC compared to consoles
>>320010317
my fellow tripfag nigga
this is just my nit-picky, but...
customization
>Stormtroopers take off helmets
>no kind of permutations like different pauldrons, or skirts, or backpacks, or armor paints
>rebels having no similar options like different helmets, camo patterns, ect
>Species that probably wouldnt be fighting, like Twi'lek, are soldiers (they werent quite pacifists, but like Bothans preferred subterfuge and diplomacy to fighting
I hear the A-wing is overpowered but it kinda was, it was the best starfighter in the galaxy. however its shields were little more than to protect it from micro-meteoroids and planetary re-entry, it wouldnt have done shit for laser cannons.
The Falcon should handle like a fucking semi truck, since its essentially a candy van that Han stuffed an F1 engine in. ILM says it is about as maneuverable as a B-wing with is like, a space BRRRRRT. and the A-10 isnt the most maneuverable plane...
Slave 1 should be more maneuverable but it had such an array of weapons that it should be the OP one, if anything.
Han uses the Falcon to GTFO and run away from trouble. Fett uses the Slave 1 to disintegrate people, or batter the ship into submission.
>>320018612
>Stormtroopers take off helmets
This and female Imps during the trilogy battles get me.
>>320009616
Inbalance game
No campaign
50 dollars season pass
EA
>>320010197
Go fuck yourself, look at that BF2 webm, this time with nostalgia goggles off, it's clunky as shit.
I'd rather have simplistic but polished gameplay than this shit where you don't even know if you'e going to hit or not with your hero and where the collisions and physics are completely fucked.
The BF community is some of the worse I've ever seen, not really a surprise because the SW fanbase is already cancerous as shit. the new BF could've gone way worse considery fucking EA was in charge. Be happy to have anything at all.
>>320009616
casual player here, plunked down US $60 plus $50 for the season pass.
it's okay, but i do get tired of aimbots. the multiplayer is fun but the matching is bad, so i tend to just fool around instead of actively trying to play well.a game w bots like the original BF or BF2 would be better for a player like me.
>>320018612
>A-wing is op, but it kind of w--
let me stop you right there you massive lore faggot. play the game and tell me if you enjoy getting absolutely raped by a-wings on fucking hoth. that's right you lorenigger, there are A-WINGS on fucking hoth so there are going to be lore inconsistencies created in order to allow for game balance. so dont justify stupid shit like a-wings single-handedly being unhittable, uncatchable, and untradable because of their fucking shield.
i hate lore nerds who try to justify stupid shit in a game they probably haven't even played. you probably just the white boy who sits alone at the lunch table like "haha nigga this so stupid that women are in my sci fi fiction game" just like this >>320018743 fag right here.
man fuck all of you lorefags. in ANY game you fcuks pull shit like that and have ZERO concept of game balance
EA is what's wrong.
>>320019053
>>320015264
>$60
Try $110. The game came with a day 1 season pass, and a multiplayer shooter is generally unplayable if you don't have the latest shit.
>>320019452
>i hate lore nerds
Basically anyone who doesn't want shit retcons just to be diverse or to pander? Piss off shill.
>>320010197
nice so troopers can fight 1v1 and win against jedis because they have a power (dodge) greater than anything the force provides?
>how do you want your immersion f︂︂a︂m?
>>320019053
id rather have a sometimes clunky game but its fun as hell with lots of content, but maybe thats just me.
And i really dont think BF could be worse- even if it was F2P it would bave been less of a kick to the dick. Its not even a reboot, its so differentit actually doesnt feel so bad and makes more sense when you think of it as SW:First Assault and not Battlefront
>>320009616
4 maps
>>320019621
As opposed to playing as people who have worse aim than a kid with no formal firearm training?
any chance of the PS4 having a new bundle anytime soon?
really don't want to get one with Battlefront considering how bad it is
>>320019452
you really did stop reading there didnt you? the part where i mentioned the shield was worthless and thereby in fact NOT justifying it in the game?
you also seem to be a bit of a lorefag yourself for making a big deal about it being anachronistically at Hoth.
>>320019835
>As opposed to playing as people who have worse aim than a kid with no formal firearm training?
same as in the movie
checkmate
>>320019835
I'd rather have this than overpowered troopers who can completely invalidate a core game feature (the hero)
this is far worse game design that anything you see in the new BF.
>>320019567
>shill
yeah sorry your sci fi fandom is filled to the brim with white guys in a franchise criticized for having only one white chick and maybe some blue twi'lek alien strippers. like yeah, I get it, star wars wasn't expected to become some cultural icon when it came out in such a white washed time, but like really nigga? why is it so wrong to have a universe where there are some women in the galaxy-spanning empire army or some black guys? they have aliens in their army but you have a probably with some women or black guys because "muh continuity"? man you know why you get called racist and shit?
like im not calling for luke to be black or anything, but like shit lore fags like you get upset if ANYBODY ends up being black or female or w/e like it's inconceivable to you that maybe the reason no stormtrooper took their helmet off is you have to give any actor who gives their likeness and speaks in your movie SAG rights. so like is it so far of a stretch to have a black stormtrooper or a woman stormtrooper with their helmet off?
"shill"
lol fuck you racist
>>320009616
They kept the Beta going for too long - people had a big opportunity to explore the game then, which was great but made it less worthwhile to then go ahead and spend $60 on the full game.
>>320020278
upvote.
>>320019669
>i really dont think BF could be worse
holy shit how fucking new are you?
When it was announced that EA was in charge we had tons of threads about how people were expecting the game to be and every scenario was more pessimistic than what we got in the end.
But I guess that's just /v/ being hypocritical as shit once again, suddenly literally everyone here forgot about these threads just so they can shit on the new BF for the sake of it.
>>320020041
That's not check mate. If it was 100% lore then the storm troopers would be awful. It would be them losing every battle besides Hoth.
>>320020164
OP? You're assuming because this trooper who canocally killed Jedi in the film is killing Maul that every trooper can decimate them in a few seconds.
Also, if heroes are a core game feature than you fucked up as a dev.
>>320020278
Confirmed bait. I never said there was anything wrong with blacks, just that having women in the horribly oppressive Empire was stupid and non canon in the trilogy battles. Especially as the officers.
>>320020164
No, honestly for e the problem was plainly the way Heroes were implemented.
In the first one they were essentially unkillable, they could only be blown of a map or overwhelmed with firepower or proximity explosions like from the AT-AT. But now they essentially have a health and timer combined.
if they just sat it to a timer it would have been better in my opinion. that being said its still sort of hard to 1v1 a saber wielder.
>>320020278
Completely agree with having more black and female characters - its not anything to do with SJWs, it just actually makes more sense from a lore perspective to have a more diverse cast in such a diverse universe.
>>320020432
The governments of today are a bit different in their perspectives towards multiculturalism than the settlers of 400 years ago...they looked down greatly on the 'native savages' of America. Our governments explicitly argue against bigotry, even if the reality is a little different.
>>320020653
>or overwhelmed with firepower or proximity explosions like from the AT-AT
Wrong. The could only be blown off the map in the first one.
>>320020748
Only in the Alliance or Republic.
>>320015775
cutting prices for new games isnt that rare for EA.
they always do this during thanksgiving/christmas time for their big ones.
if they cut the game's price in half during the release of the star wars movie they might sell a lot of copies.i might even buy it
They brutally raped the one game that even the most casual Star Wars fan could like
>>320019621
They're precise, m8.
>>320020472
Not new but not a regular.
regardless, its pretty fucking far from the originals, to the point of not even being the same game.
>>320020278
who dude, i didnt mention any of that shit. either trolling or projecting?
I personally think it would have been silly to not have at least some women in the Imperial military, simple because of a larger pool of soldiers to work with. But from a logistics standpoint i can definitely see humans and near-humans being much favored because they wouldnt have to have all kinds of modified armor made.
You call me a lorefag but theres lots of stuff i think is dumb, like the EU saying "hurr every Stormtrooper is conditioned to die for the empurrhurr willingly!" or that now apparently the Stormtroopers are something more than litterally stormtroopers, and the bulk of the Imperial military arent regular soldiers without the white armor.
but yeah, youre right, im a racist fuck, because you say so and put words in my mouth. better words in mine that Achmed's balls in yours.
>>320020432
>pol image
>>320020554
you didn't say blacks you said "diverse" and considering how most people on 4chan are your usual repressed white guy people I know what that's code for just like pic related. like this is a sci-fi universe where yeah the galactic empire is oppressive as fuck, but why does that have to have some gender or race aligned thing to it? yeah most of the portrayed dudes in it are white males, and i'm fine with that, but especially on the trooper or grunt level what's wrong with some of them being female or black or whatever? why can't a female or black guy or whoever want to oppress the shit out of people too? everytime i see arguments about this shit (and don't even get me started on /tv/) it's just constant white wash racist bullshit about "muh star wars culture, NO BLACKS ALLOWED" or whatever.
>>320019970
yeah i like the lore of star wars, but i don't use it as a justification to fuck over balance in a game. like obviously rebels lose hoth, but i don't think that should be represented in-game. and it's being a massive lorefaggot to say, "oh well a-wings are op in lore so i'm okay with three a-wings single-handedly raping every imperial fighter to the point you actively avoid TIE fighter pick ups". it's asinine and dumb.
I get the feeling at least a few million copies of this game are unopened under a tree somewhere for the next week or two.
Not sure, just a hunch.
>>320021483
to the point of not even being the same game.
i agree - the maps of tatooine might as well be CoD iraq scenarios.it doesnt feel like star wars anywhere except the lava maps.
>>320021012
No, im not. i personally killed vader by mistake with the AT-AT on RV Harbor. He was by the Ice Caves entrance by the Lighthouse, nowhere near an 'out of area' place. if i could record my PS2 id do it right now and upload it.
>>320021532
My opinion differs i suppose because i HATE how the rebalanced the starfighters in BF2 to be 'the same'. TIES got Proton torps, the Y-wing, which is by all rights a multirole fighter, was raped of its laser cannons and given that.. 'particle cannon' instead.
Also the proximity damage reduction really bothered me, vehicles felt a lot less potent against infantry.
>>320009616
Basically they already had a winning formula with older BFs and Battlefield and yet they decided to produce this. It's actually quite baffling.
>>320011627
vgchartz
>>320011925
>And then if you manage to get it be spawned camped by enemy while youre in the animation of the damn ship actually entering the air space
>Repeat all over again
>>320021532
>and considering how most people on 4chan are your usual repressed white guy people
Awfully large brush. Either way, this is diversity to pander. It's not lore friendly and it could easily just be for the Alliance.
It has them aligned to it because they're supposed to be evil. I once again never said black, but you're clearly just baiting. Enjoy your game, anon.
>>320021783
You are though. I'm blasted Luke over and over with an AT-AT on Hoth and he never died.
>>320010197
convinced me not to buy this game
>>320010197
>more heroes
Out of everything, this genuinely confuses the fuck out of me, why the fuck are there only three heroes and three villains?
>>320011627
>seriously using vgchartz
hahahahaha it was flop you stupid retard
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-star-wars-battlefront-assassins-creed-syndi/1100-6432535/
>>320009616
You want the list in alphabetical or just whatever?
>>320019053
>I'd rather have simplistic but polished gameplay than this shit where you don't even know if you'e going to hit or not with your hero and where the collisions and physics are completely fucked.
Have you even played the game? The hitboxes are tight, and the physics are fine.
What's the problem? It seems like a case of git gud.
>>320019621
>>320020164
The hero didn't use his abilities (saber throw and force push). He figured it would be a simple win, and he got shotgunned to the face.
>>320020653
The bar can regen from enough kills as a hero.
>>320009616
No server browser
i do have the base game and really loving it
its the mindless third persn shooter ive always wanted
>>320026129
i want that as well but its too expensive for what it is
>>320019053
It plays great faggot, i bet your underage ass never even played the game, just because the graphics are a bit dated doesnt mean it doesnt still play great.
Hello reddit
>>320026679
i got it for 40bucks from kinguin awhile ago
does battlefront still have an online community? I'm thinking of picking it up on steam? is it worth it?
>>320028845
For US it does, and /v/ can consistently fill up a server pretty nicely
>>320023423
Limited themselves by only using the original trilogy. Most of the Jedi and Sith were from the clone wars.
>>320023423
I think they've already confirmed they have like 10 more heroes as DLC
>>320023423
>>320029491
And ofcourse so that they can sell more later as DLC
I actually liked the first Battlefront the best where the heroes were non player characters who were invincible, made them more intimidating and made you feel more like a shitty gruny, was fun as fuck trying to get Luke to fly off the side of those walkways in Cloud City by spamming nades
>>320029873
Actually I looked it up and it's two more heroes and two more villians they have planned
>>320021227
>they always do this during thanksgiving/christmas time for their big ones.
for brand new games that aren't even a month old?
>No Galactic Conquest
>No space battles
>>320019053
>>>320010197
>Go fuck yourself, look at that BF2 webm, this time with nostalgia goggles off, it's clunky as shit.
Clunky? Were you playing the same game? Sure the hero mechanics were okay but they weren't worse than Jedi Knight II. The controls were responsive. There was no "heavy" feeling like you get in the modern Battlefront game, which tries to turn Battlefront into Battlefield.
