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cod 4 is good
cod mw2 has a great campaign
rest are shite
>>319997059
It was alright
CoD campaigns are fun no matter what
What mission?
>>319997059
>scripted linear shit where you have to follow some guy and follow orders (shoot that guy on the left, get down to avoid patrols, watch this 30 second animation as I kill a guy) like a retard with no thought of your own, thus killing off any independent action in FPS games for the next decade or so.
Yeah real great mission 10/10 GHOST TOWN LMAO xDD
>>319997298
Mw2 multiplayer from 2009 to 2010 was awesome despite everything
>>319997298
>rest are shite
Nah, the Black Ops arc is the best out of the series.
>>319997706
Until 3 anyway.
CoD campaigns are usually pretty fun desu lads
>>319997759
Iunno, I still loved 3.
The Black Ops arc, in my opinion at least, has the most engaging storyline and gameplay along with visuals.
Not saying that the other games are bad, though, I really liked everything up to MW2.
>>319997059
true. Similarly Vendetta was the worst mission on WaW.Tank mission was pretty crap too but mostly due to fucked up steering
organic gameplay > following setpieces
>>319997059
>waah there is a single mission that doesn't let me bunnyhop around the level and shoot everything that moves
>>319997626
This, almost every other level is much better.
>>319997706
it really isn't
boring as fuck games
the only thing Blops did right was reign in the retardation of MW2's out-of-control multiplayer, but when that is the only thing you do right, you might as well do nothing at all
>>319997059
Yeah I thought that, then I played Stalker.
>>319997848
Well I'd love to form a good opinion on BO3 but gosh darn the game just won't let me play for more than 30 seconds without freezing for another 30.
>>319997887
No.
>>319997856
oh, you mean "the shit"? Nah, I can't agree to that, it was JUST shit.
>>319997059
I liked it. And I think MW was a shitty game.
The only good CoD was 2.
>>319997059
>Grey filter with all colors removed
>Walk 2 steps away from the path and die of "radiation"
>"""stealth"""
Welcome to a time when this shit is now remembered with nostalgia.
>>319997298
>MW2 had a great campaign
I was just thinking about this yesterday and you are FUCKING WRONG AS FUCK HOLY SHIT
>guys let's have a shocking mission in because ????
>let's have a shit ton of setpieces thrown because ???????
>we're gonna have the main guy betray his country because ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>319997626
This t︂b︂︂h
CoD4's best level is either War Pig or No Fighting in the War Room. Rest are shit. MW2's campaign was far better overall unless you give a shit about plot.
FLASHBANG
THROUGH THE DOOR
>>319998072
Fuck you, the DC missions and the one in the suburb are great.
>>319998072
The story was not good, but the pacing and mission variety were the best of the series.
>>319998072
you make it sound as if all the other cod campaigns are somehow masterpieces compared to it
you might wanna see a doctor if you actually think that
>>319997059
To be fair, this was a better mission-long cinematic than the one where you played as the President that gets executed.
>>319998123
>mfw I beat the IW time
>>319998210
>played as the President that gets executed.
What?
>>319998202
At least the plot to CoD4 made sense to an extent. There was a clear villain who had a motivation you could understand and didn't throw retarded shit at you 24/7.
>>319998058
I remember my first playthrough of it though and it did feel pretty intense. It's a shame it is so scripted but that does add to the idea that you are just following orders. They should never have retread those steps in later instalments.
>>319998253
nobody is contesting cod4
but you're a dumbfuck if you think anything past mw2 is actually less idiotic and more coherent than mw2
>>319998058
>install mod adding extra combat chatter to AI
>turns out enemies spot you and MacMillan constantly
>they're just scripted to ignore you as long as you follow your scripts
>>319998072
>>we're gonna have the main guy betray his country because
Did you play the game ?
Because he explains why he did it moron
>>319998391
The equivalent stealth missions in MW2 were far better. In the first segment early in the game, there's no one to hold your hand and tell you where to go. If you get spotted and trigger an alert, it's not instant game over and you can lose the enemy if you remain hidden long enough ala MGS. In the second segment, Price leads the way but lets you choose what you want to do when encountering an enemy patrol. In both segments, you can go loud, shooting everyone you see and you'll still be able to proceed, provided that you are skilled enough to deal with overwhelming odds.
>>319998758
What did you expect
Did you think you were actually invisible to the game that knows what happens all the time?
>>319997059
It's great and all my friends love it. Also it's pretty popular so you don't like it just to be contrarian. Just another same shit on /v/.
>"Recalibrate azimuth sweep angle"
>>319997624
the pripyat one
>>319997673
Famas with Stopping power was fucking horseshit. One burst stopped anybody if you hit them with all three rounds, and it fires pretty fast.
>>319997059
yes
>>319998927
>invisible to the game
invisible to enemies.
I'll explain how it works:
While game itself is all-knowing for obvious reasons, AI spotting is limited by data game gives it to process. This includes pieces like visibility cones, cover, concealment, noise levels, and variety of coefficients to make their spotting as believeble as possible.
Stealth games (good stealth games) have no issues with making sneaking possible without scripting every enemy on level. Even non-stealth games like ArmA, 7.62 High Calibre or first Far Cry have working stealth.
>Simon says go stand next to the burned out car
>Simon says crawl on your belly towards the tank
>Simon says shoot the man in the tower
>Do anything you're not told to and you'll fail the mission
It was a series of enemy set-ups and linear paths, just like any other mission in those games, it just gave the illusion of stealth as well.
So I guess I can't really fault it for the tense atmosphere it had, but it's only impressive to the mainstream fps babbies that didn't know any better.
>>319999713
Funny how you mention the first Far Cry where enemies spotted you across the island through all foliage
Because simulating sight is actually very fucking hard. Especially in CoD enemies do not have sight, this is obvious on veteran difficulty as you see enemies pointing their guns at you in advance when they enter a certain "battle stance" because they are not firing based on sight, but your data location.
Stealth games in general operate on abstractions that only work in tight spaces.
>>319997859
What?
>>320000000
Let's see what majesty /v/ pulls out of its asshole this time
>>319999364
ENEMY AC ONE THIRTY ABOVE
>>319997298
They are all shit. Everything is scripted and enemies respawn unless you move to a certain loaction.
>>319999860
I've been wondering if there are any experimental games that actually use computer vision techniques on scenes rendered from the enemies' point of view for target recognition. Sounds like an interesting experiment to make.
>>319997059
I can and I do. It was the mission that convinced me the game was going to be scripted shit from start to finish and stopped playing the series indefinitely.
>>320000092
"BOOM"
"THAT GOT TO HURT"
"DON'T ATTACK FRIENDLIES"
>>319999860
>Far Cry where enemies spotted you across the island through all foliage
They could once you've been spotted. It's very simple, really. Their LOS is calculated properly, but they will find you even if there's only 5 pixels undisturbed by vegetation. And if you've been already spotted, they know where to look, which is why you should relocate second you hear them shouting, so they have to detect you again.
Playing ninja, by switching between stealth and agression, is perfectly possible unlike say Far Cry 2 where alarmed enemies will always know where to look, even if they didn't see where did you go
CoD2 > CoD > CoD4 > CoD5 > the rest
>>320000110
Minimizing the use of enemy respawns is one of the immediately noticeable improvements MW2's campaign introduced in the series. They restricted its use to only certain scenarios like the airport or the Russian airfield base where you're supposed to be making a getaway.
>>320000772
Well you clearly have a different Far Cry 2 version than me. That never happened on PC or 360 for me. That's how I play too - sneaking around
>>319997059
I really fucking hate the phrase "The shit".
I cannot count how many times I skim something and then had to reread it to make sure they were saying "is shit" or "is the shit"
>>320000116
there's few issues with that
for example how much of body should be considered "visible enough". AI in ArmA 3 has bullshit spotting in thick vegetation, because it will clearly spot foot or elbow sticking from behind tree, when human player would miss it in mess of shapes between them.
At same time player would have much easier time spot characteristic round shape of helmet, even if technically smaller.
>>320000976
try to break off and hide AFTER you've been spotted by checkpoint crew
>>319997059
>everyone hates modern games because they are all cinematic shit
>still gush over one of the most cinematic levels
>>319997059
It was cool, but super scripted and linear.
>>320001230
>should be considered "visible enough".
You'd obviously have to experiment a lot, figure out the best values and filters to use. But my point is for there not to be a special significance to the player's avatar. The AI doesn't get to cast rays at the player or however that works, all it gets are images. It has to figure out whether it's looking at the player or just a tree from those images alone.
>/v/ now likes Halo
>/v/ now likes CoD
>soon we will have threads about how great PewDiePie is
I feel so old.
>>320001848
That is not technology you develop just for a video game
That is proper mil-tech
>>320002105
That's shit they do on all kinds of universities is what that is. Computer vision isn't super sekrit stuff. Plus, in a video game, you can easily have the actors and environment look any way you want them to in order to make it easier or harder on the AI.
>>319997059
>enlessly respawning enemies
>move 10 meters
>suddenly no enemies
no, cod campaigns suck ass.
>Nostalgia
>2007 game
>dat OPfor spawn music
>that marines spawn music
>tfw want to play MW2 again but its dead
>stuck playing COD4
WaW had the best campaign hands down.
>"With you alive the heart of this army can never be broken".
>>320002768
but the US branch was shit
>>319997059
Only 90s kids will remember this!
The original + UO had the best campaign. Anyone who disagrees is pure homosex.
>>319997059
facebook is not a good source of original ideas
>>320003256
Nah
CoD4 will always be the pinnacle
>>320000000
>>320000000
>>320000000
>>320003786
top tier get
Best CoD mission is Eviction from WaW
>>319997059
Enjoyed simply because I love Chernobyl and Pripyat so I enjoy the fuck out of games like Stalker and others that take place there.
No idea why. I just want to go there and romp around, though that's near impossible.
>>319997997
I recognize that Sphagin american
>>320003786
Fuck off newfag nobody cares about your get.
>>319998251
There's that mission near the beginning called The Coup where you play as the President of Saudi Arabia that gets killed by Khaled Al-Assad. It's nothing but just riding in a car while you see militants do what militants do.
>>319997298
>that mission in Loose Ends with all the mines popping
>that other one where Makarov straights up shoots you after finding out you had a wire
Played me good.
>>320004727
>>that other one where Makarov straights up shoots you after finding out you had a wire
I replayed the modern warfare series lately and i gotta say, mw2 is complete shit, but that scene was nice.
If you decided not to take makarovs hand and instead run away, he just shoots you from afar instead.
Nice touch.
>>320004956
I always thought I could shoot him. The Favella levels were fun too and there's that Juggernaut level.
>>320003256
...and has the hardest missions too, even on normal difficulty.
>>320004727
What wire? And how does he know you were a spy?
What CoD 4 did right, and the reason that it should be remembered, was distilling the hopes and fears of the world we lived in (past tense because it was pre-Arab Spring) into a format where we could all be the badass hero out there saving the western world from all the ay-rabs and ruskies. I personally disagree with some of the political sentiment, but it did redefine the way a generation viewed warfare and global politics. I really doubt that another game will ever be as influential at forming the worldview of an entire generation
>>320005446
Wait never mind, I thought he had a wire. he was just a falseflag to make America look bad. I was thinking of something else.
>>320002768
>Furher demands all to shed their last drop of blood for him
>The old, the young, the weak
>They stand for Germany, they DIE for Germany!
also best soundtrack in all of CoD. They could've have go easy way, and emulate war movies like previous games, but instead they created something that actually contributed to feel of mayhem and insanity
>>320002871
it was fun too. Only annoyance is that you can't find Garand with bayonet in most missions. And sometimes enemy respawn rates get ridiculus, but late missions in Red Army's campaing also suffer from it
MOHAA is better than any cod game
>>320006850
I replayed it recently, and no, it's not
>>320000374
"Clean up that signal"
"Kaboom"
Wait, Captain Price fired the Nuke to cause the EMP, right?
Then what the fuck was Shepherd so butthurt about?
>>319997059
CoD campaigns are like an action movie, they are worth playing. But still they have too many flaws, like limited weapon selection, being short, no replayability value and of course mediocre stories, so it's not worth paying for them.
