I finally made it to the NCR, but I feel I'm way underleveled here. I keep encountering Deathclaws and Enclave patrols who absolutely wreck my shit every time. How am I doing?
Anyway, classic Fallout thread.
>>319912497
>Any points at all in charisma
S M H T B H
>>319912626
Hey, I've put it into use. I've already got Sulik, Vic, Cassidy and Myron as companions.
>>319912497
The problem is that you have 1 agility and 10 charisma
>>319912497
>Charisma 10
>Agility 1
>>319912497
>100 big guns
>cannot fire any due to 1 agi
this has to be bait
>>319912972
I've got plenty of Jet so I don't need agility
>>319912497
Are you still shitposting this bait char?
>>319913110
Rude
It's my first playthrough, I didn't know agility was so important
I'm rooting for your fucked up build OP. You've made it this far, don't give up
>>319913228
>rude
Yea fuck off.
2/10 because some people don't know this shitty bait
>this thread
>>319913228
replying to bait, but:
If you didn't know it was important, you also didn't know if it was unimportant, so maximizing it and minimizing it with that knowledge is equally stupid.
>>319913428
I've played Fallout 3 and NV with no problems with a 1 agi character so I assumed it was the same in 2
>ONLY 19% traps
just delete your save file already
OP TELL EVERYONE ABOUT HOW YOU TOOK TWO WEEKS TO GET THROUGH TEMPLE OF TRIALS
>>319913497
How did you even get to the NCR with 1 AG.
That's like Über-challenge run tier.
How the fuck?
>>319913637
It was legitimately the worst part of the game. People kept telling me that I could just run past the ants but I didn't have enough action points to do it.
In the end, I figured that I should just save after every hit. After a week or so I also found out about the first aid and doctor skills so I didn't have go through the whole thing without any healing.
>>319913804
It's not that hard. The temple was the hardest part.
Can I hijack this thread to talk about New Vegas for a second?
I'm level fucking five and the roads between Nipton and Novac are full of Vipers with grenade launchers that kill me in 5 seconds no matter what I do.
What the fuck did I do wrong? I literally keep dying every 5 minutes and having to start from tje Mojave Outpost over and over.
Also I have nearly 50 in Guns but every time I aim I develop Parkinson's and can't hit anything even standing still and crouched
>1 agility
>3 endurance
Oh lawd. How do you even play with 1 agi...
>>319912497
Now you need to cripple yourself a leg for maximum action point effectiveness
>>319913804
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/63576-fallout-2/46690779
>>319913914
>viper nad laucher
Stop playing with mods
OP is actually a hardcore power gamer if that is his first time playing this game with this character. I couldn't finish Fallout 1, which was easier, on my first run with a character way better than this pile of shit.
>>319914126
there genuinely is a viper with a grenade launcher at that spot
>>319914126
I'm playing on fucking console! I've gotten 4 grenade launchers off Viper Gunslingers with shitloads of 40mm Grenades between them, and that's just from the ones I've managed to kill!
Plus Vipers just spawn in packs of like 6+ 200 feet from me randomly
>>319914245
Or maybe just a hardcore save scummer.
>1 agility
>8 perception but only 3 luck
>100 big guns
>wondering why you're getting bonked in combat
this is bait and I fell for it
>>319912497
should have tagged traps instead of speech, first aid instead of repair and gambling instead of big guns
How did you even win the first fight?
>>319912497
I don't care what anyone else says I like everything about OP's first ever build. You can beat the game I believe in you
Also weapon skills still give benefits past 100%. A good idea is to use books to get as many points in your skills early on because once you get around 90% you can no longer benefit from them.game difficulty raises/lowers all of your skills so if you want to be a scumbag you can put it on hard to learn as much as you can and then put it on easy for the highest skills possible.
How's my build?
>>319915330
straight from a min maxing guide/10
>>319914323
What's your SPECIAL, perks, current armor, weapon, and traits that you currently have?
>>319912497
>classic Fallout thread
Can I steal people's guns in Fo1?Yes, i'm stealing EVERYTHING
>>319915579
this desu
>>319915579
Nah I just played fallout 1 and tried a few different builds. I once tagged energy weapons and first aid, that was a mistake.
>>319915773
This gives me an autistic idea for a new playthrough.
Only use stolen items to beat the game.I kind of want to do this
>>319912497
>AGI 1
are you that guy who made a thread complaining about how shitty the game was because your 1 agility character couldn't do anything
good for you if you're continuing to play like that
>>319915879
Anyone else see the Todd Howard resemblance?
>>319912497
>2 action points
How is this even possible? 1 agi should equal to 5 action points.
>>319915864
>implying I'm not doing that
Literally sell and then steal from EVERYONE.
>mfw looting all the raiders then buyin the slave girl from the boss with his raider's knifes
>then stealing them back
>>319916038
now that you mention itmaybe
>>319916038
Nope, he's not small enough.
>>319916291
I always wondered how the fuck Todd managed to seem of average height on scene, I never believed the 6'3 claims but didn't realize how fucking tiny he actually is until there was a reference
>>319915758
SPECIAL is 4 7 4 6 8 7 6, tagged Guns, Repair and Speech, took Small Frame and 4 Eyes and have since taken Rapid Reload, Shotgun Surgeon and Educated.
I'm bouncing between the Sturdy Caravan Shotgun, Cowboy Repeater and Service Rifle though right now I'm out of ammo and am using the 9mm SMG. The traders on the intersection south of Novac carry more .357, 5.56 and 20g.
I'm wearing the Lightweight Leather Armor, Authority glasses for PER+ and Roving Trader hat.
I cleared Goodsprings, Primm, and Mojave Outpost
>big guns 100%
>agi 1
doesn't most big guns take something like 5 action points to shoot them?
>>319916074
drug withdrawal i'm betting
>>319916074
He has perked Bruised (+2 strength for -2 AP) and is probably addicted to Jet (>>319913086)
>>319916186
See that vault?
>>319912497
>10 ch
>1 ag
>3 lk
>>319916560
If they're shooting at you with grenade rifles, and with your endurance being a bit low, it's probably for the best that you don't go around that area for a bit, as that's probably one of the few places in the Mojave that you'll encounter them.
If you need to go towards that area, try to stock up on stims and doctor bags. You mentioned earlier that you've had a couple of those grenade rifles, so you could probably sell those to get munitions from the general store back in Goodsprings, but that's pretty much all the advice I can give ya.
Don't go too far North of Goodsprings, though, because you'll run into a lot of Cazadors and giant Radscorpions.
>>319917689
Luck is an universal dump stat desu
>>319912497
>10 Charisma
>1 Agility
Are using that mod that lets you control your companions directly? If not, that's pretty impressive for a first playthrough.
>>319917759
Not if your using Jinxed.
>>319917864
I only have Restoration Project since it was recommended to me and I have no idea what I'm doing
>>319917754
That's the only fucking direction I can go
And this time I finally managed to snipe each of the fucking 18 Vipers I see on that road (of which 6 had Grenade Rifles) and then I get blown up by a bunch of fucking legionaries and NCR troops throwing frags at each other
God damnit I'm just restarting, this is fucking retarded
Can someone give me a build that doesn't get shit on 2 hours into the game?
>>319912497
>10 Charisma
>1 Agility
>3 Luck
>2 Action Points
>Big Guns 100%
>over a month later
>still only a few hours progress for a normal build
But hey, least you have companions.
>>319918661
I haven't played all that much. I had my finals and all.
>>319912497
>agility 1
>>319912497
10/10 OP holy shit
>>319914126
>>319913914
>>319914323
I have literally never encountered a viper with a grenade launcher.
But if you're having problems with a certain enemy, have you considered just not fighting them?
>>319919224
>have you considered just not going to Novac
Great idea I'll just hang out in Primm for the rest of the game
>>319919319
lower the diffi m8
>>319919319
Stop walking into the viper nest you retard. Circle around them, you'll fight some animals instead.
>>319919319
There are Vipers with grenade launchers in that area, but that's not what the man said
Stock up on med-x and stimpacks and run through instead of attempting to fight them
>>319919510
Vipers literally spawn in front of me even if I avoid the canyon ambush
>>319919457
I'm only playing on Normal Hardcore, nothing else gave me problems but I can't do anything about packs of 6 enemies with 2-3 Grenade Rifles
>>319919319
on my first run of NV i skipped primm by mistake, just went right to vagas
>>319912497
Following the suggestions of an anon on /vr/ I've started a playthrough of Fallout 1 with:
>10 strength
>10 agility
>1 Luck
>Bloody Mess
>Only leather armour and unarmed
It's fun punching holes in fuckers when they try to gangbang me.
>>319912497
I remember you, anon. You're still pushing through with that fucking build? I have legitimate respect for the amount of shit you're putting yourself in to bait a few retards on /v/. Unless you're using some kind of invincibility cheat or something, in which case fuck off.
>>319919756
>10 natural strength when power armor exists
>>319919714
>vipers literally spawned in front of me
Fucking bullshit. I've put quite a lot of hours into NV on my Xbox and they always spawn up above the canyon.
>>319913637
>>319913901
>temple of trials
>TWO WEEKS
It's almost impressive that you stuck with this shitty build for so long rather than just starting over with a new character.
>>319913914
Fun fact, you can actually go east from Goodsprings, it's not just north or south. It'll take you to a valley full of scorpions, which isn't too tough to deal with, and it dumps you out by Novac.
I don't think I've ever once seen anybody else talk about that shortcut, it's always either north or south.
>>319920015
When I get past the canyon, or near the exploded house before Nipton, I have Vipers just pop in a few hundred feet away even if I go off the road.
>>319912497
lol save edit ASP, make it playable
>>319920234
Wait, like past the NCRCF? I thought that was Cazadorland
>>319920161
>tfw vaultboy will never suck yo D
>>319920646
Nope, cazadors are to the north.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Scorpion_gulch
>>319912497
>AG 1
a-anon
>>319920548
It's completely playable. Huffing Jet and using Psycho I get 8 AP, enough to fire my flamer once and even move a bit. Just with the Jet which is cheap as fuck I get 6 AP to use my flamer.
This "lol 1 agi" meme needs to die.
Anybody else just get bored in Fallout 1? Around the time I get to Junktown it just stops being fun or interesting
>>319915330
your IN is low. IN and AG should be your 2 highest stats for skill and action points.
By level 20 your lockpick and/or science skill should be at 100.
Also I see no reason to level small guns past 90. Generally once I hit ~85 I start leveling big guns or energy weapons instead.
>>319912497
Oh my god, you're still doing this?
I legitimately love this. You're amazing.
>>319914245
Well, this probably isn't actually OP's first game. The character is too perfectly max-minned for it to be accidental. I'm pretty sure this started as bait for Fallout purists, and OP just decided to keep running with it.
>>319919319
>mfw "this is the only way I can go and it's too tuff!"
Either sneak past them or find another route.
Found any stealth boys yet?
>>319915330
Your build is excellent. I'm not in this thread to see good builds. Get the fuck out of here, asshole.
>>319915773
I don't think you can steal their gun if they currently have it equipped. Even if they don't look like they're carrying a gun, I don't think you can steal it if they have it in their "off hand" slot.
>>319922889
I used the one stealth boy to get into the NCRCF to get Meyer since I couldn't fix Primm Slim and Hayes was a dumbass.
Regardless you're literally ignoring the part where I've stated multiple times that I have Vipers just spawn in front of me even if I go off the road, which I assume was a glitch, so great post!
I've already rolled a new character anyway
>>319918095
Your build is fine, you won't have any more luck with a different one.
It astounds me that you ran into 18 Vipers in the same place. That shouldn't be right. What kind of crazy mods did you install?
Also, you know you can save somewhere further than the Mojave Outpost, right?
>>319922209
Going small guns for the guass rifle eye shots.
>>319923038
Fuck.
Can you do it in 2?
>>319919863
Kenshiro didn't need no power armour.
I'm planning to play fallout 1 & 2 but do they require high levels of grinding like the NES/Famicom RPG's did? This will be my first WRPG.
>>319923267
I'm playing on console, can you not follow a reply chain?
I wasn't saving because I didn't want to overuse the Hard Mode saves.
I rerolled just to keep the Mercenary Grenade Rifle so I'd have some means of fighting back.
>>319923378
No, not in my experience at least. Make sure you go unarmed in F2, I assure you, you won't regret it.
rate my build
>>319923370
No, it uses the same rules. I don't think there's any way to get an NPC's currently equipped gun unless they've been knocked unconscious, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
>>319923424
The hard mode save restriction just means you can only keep one hundred save files.
You can save over the same file as many times as you want.
It's not really a restriction at all, actually.
>>319923545
Minmaxed to hell and back/10
>>319923378
in fallout 2 I pretty much ran around the map without fighting anyone except the rats to get a car part
I stole plenty and explored a lot
>>319913637
>OP TELL EVERYONE ABOUT HOW YOU TOOK TWO WEEKS TO GET THROUGH TEMPLE OF TRIALS
This is a joke right? We're all just kidding around yes?
>>319923378
You don't grind in these games except I suppose in retard mode you might need to because of the lack of quests available for you in the game due to not being able to speak normally.
>>319923205
Could you not go back to a previous save?
Did you not try fast traveling somewhere?
>>319923739
It's not like I played 8 hours every day
>>319924015
The temple of trials takes around 5 to 10 minutes to complete.
>>319924000
I didn't fast travel at all
I could have maybe reloaded a previous save but at that point my last save was a good ways back and I'd rather have restarted with better Speech, Barter, Repair, etc
>>319923378
No. If your struggling in a fight, try a different strategy.
If that's not working, then leave and do some other quests/find better gear and come back later.
>>319920815
If I remember correctly, going on the road up to Sloan puts you in Deathclaw territory for a bit, while going East will net you with the Powder Gangers, as well as going north of Scorpion Gulch to Black Mountain has you face against Tabitha's mutant army, but you can pick up Raul on your way up to her station.
I guess a lot of people just follow the road when they start instead of taking to the mountains.
>not going power armor at lv 2
Jesus fuck kill yourself
>That special stats
Make sure you burn after dying
Any recommendations on what NOT to do when making a character? I started playing not long ago and I'm having a hard time because I can't use guns for shit since my char has low str or something.
I don't want to minmax I just want to avoid wasting time in useless characters in my first playtrough.
>>319924696
Str at least 5, Cha is the dump stat, never take Skilled, 9 or 10 AGI
>>319924696
Small guns are most commonly used and are worth tagging and never max out your special at character creation.
;)
>>319923545
Pretty good. I'm curious why you tagged both big guns and energy weapons rather than picking one and tagging small guns/melee/unarmed instead.
>>319920234
If you use the road to the west of Goodsprings to go north then you find a shitload of cazadors, but they're all really far away and lose aggro way fast, so if you run through then you can get straight to Freeside at level 1, it can take a few tries but it's safer than going past the radscorpions since the mountains push you towards Sloan and you end up having to sneak past the Deathclaw alpha (Which is pretty much impossible at level 1 since you have to get really close to it)
This took me like three hours of staring at the map and doing death runs but now 10 luck runs are way too easy
>>319924696
Go fun builds, not retarded builds
Agility is great, and always have a minimum of 6 agi
Agi is needed a lot even when going nigger unarmed/melee builds
Never go energy weapons after guns
If you go guns, max unarmed/melee/big guns after
But not energy, they suck lategame
They are a ok early to mid game, but make sure for the lategame you have something else for combat
For healing, put points in doctor, NOT first aid
Have a good balance between traps and lockpick
Traits are optional
Just started a NV Hardcore Run
What recipes are good for crafting, like what ingredients should I be grabbing?
How do I make a max companions build work
They keep on killing each other with bursts and Cassidy straight up murdered my wife
>>319925584
dont give them burst weapons.
>>319924257
Fair enough. Hope your new char works out this time.
>>319924696
Don't take Bruiser, Skilled, Bloody Mess, and probably Heavy Handed. The severity of their downsides aren't apparent at first glance. INT affects dialogue (by giving you more options), and AGI affects your action points, which are the most important part of combat.
Other than that, just listen to your heart.
>>319925240
good luck big guy
>>319925689
Every non-burst weapon except for guass/.223 pistols are shit, though
>>319925584
No great loss.
>>319925689
This.
>>319925473
Go to the quarry and ask the girl in the bar for the wasteland omelet recipe
Sick heals for days
Avoid actually going inside the quarry, since its full of deathclaws
>>319925240
4PE
>>319925927
Your standards are too high.
What's a good build in terms of SPECIAL for the first and second games respectively?
This is my current character on Fallout 2. I enjoy sweet talking people but she's really weak in combat. Should I focus on something else for my first playthrough?
>>319925265
because both big guns and energy weapons are better than those other ones you posted and I can raise guns/melee/unarmed through books/speech options
big guns are to rape everything and energy is for when I need to be surgical or to use the energy scorcher which has unlimited ammo.
>>319926521
1st game you dump your points out of CHA, take Gifted, get 9 AGI, 6 Str, and do whatever you want with the rest
>>319926521
should have dumped luck taken a point or 2 out of INT and may be buffed STR and PER so you could just snipe everything.
>>319926676
is that 9 agility before or after gifted?
>>319923424
r-r-r-retard alert
>>319926762
After
You never start with 10 in anything
>>319925473
>what ingredients should I be grabbing?
dog and gecko meat are going to be your main healing items. Honestly, there's not too much of a point to gathering herbs and such.
I admire ops roleplaying as a weak fuccboi weasel with of charisma
Heres your prize op
>>319926565
Right, using both makes sense. The only reason I would tag small guns/melee/unarmed is to have an easier time starting out since those three are much more common.
>>319927184
>>319926741
>>319926676
Does this look a bit better? I've only really played New Vegas so I was expecting speech to be a pretty good skill to have
>>319925473
If you're investing in Survival at all, grab empty soda bottles and prickly pears (look for a sort of thin cacti with purple fruit) so you can craft purified water.
Don't go out of your way for it or anything, but grab barrel cactus fruit and pinyon nuts. You can combine them with brahmin steak to make desert salad, a *very* potent healing item.
As another anon said, gecko steak is good for keeping the hunger down, gives back a fair amount of health, and is fairly easy to get.
>>319927617
Don't bother tagging a second damage skill, you can just put points into Big Guns or whatever you plan to use at the end of the game normally as you level.
Do tag Speech though - FO1 is weird in that CHA is useless but Speech and INT factor into checks.
>>319927627
Alright.
Should I also go after the stuff to make Weapon Repair Kits and Doctor's Bags?
>>319927857
this is on FO2 though. Is it still the same thing?
>>319926565
But gauss rifle is small guns. Are there even any big guns worth using?
IMO energy weapons for F1 and small guns for F2
>>319927617
i would dump luck to 1 and instead of taking melee take unarmed...if i remember right the powerfist does more damage than any melee weapon and does less knock back (you wont have to waste AP chasing enemies you tossed across the map)
im think "one hander" works with all melee weapons so it might be worth taking.
>>319927968
just remember what they need and pick them up when you run across them.
I would highly suggest getting jury rigging for pretty much any character. Repair is too difficult/expensive otherwise.
>>319927617
Speech is a good skill to have, but CH isn't super helpful. You should tag speech instead of first aid.
I'd recommend having IN 8 or 9 for the skill points and LK at least 5.
>>319927617
Set strength to 6, you can max it with power armor.
First aid is worthless.
>>319928042
In F2, you may want CHA because it will affect the number of followers you can have.
>>319928267
One Hander works on all unarmed weapons, but not all melee weapons.
>>319927574
I normally don't fight anything in the beginning, just explore, steal and gear up
>>319928145
all the big guns dish out the most dps, easiest one to get is bozar or the light support weapon. Both use cheap and easy to find ammo, just don't give them to your companions if you want to stay alive
gauss rifle is nice but ammo is a bitch to find, I normally give them to my companions if they can't use energy
>>319926521
>playing premade characters
>>319929146
Not original/10
>>319929278
I-it's my first time
Damn, killing the Khan leader in Vault 15 is hard as FUCK
>>319929146
pretty good/10
My advice would be to start leveling some of your secondary skills (lockpick, science, speech)
>>319929976
That guy and his bodyguards are a cut above most of the challenges you've faced up until now. Either leave and come back later, or burn your resources to win (if you've got enough resources to turn the tide).
>>319929976
I remember running around the place until they ran out of ammo, then punching them to death on my first playthrough.
What is even harder is killing all the people guarding the entrance on the first floor. I had to use drugs for the first and only time to run past them.
>>319913914
Also a Legion patrol from Nipton leaves on a path that avoids the Ambush so follow them around the hills.
>>319930548
Yeah, I had to use Psycho.
>>319930605
Really? They seemed much easier, since they came at me one at a time.
Now look at my stats after buffing up. "1 agi? lmao just reset" my ass. 8 action points. If I had used Buffout as well I would have 9.
>>319931270
Where should I sell all this stuff by the way? I've got loads of shit piled up and the stores at NCR didn't have anything interesting.
>>319931270
>Came at me one at a time
I made friends with them and got past the first floor without any violence, but of course I had to resort to violence eventually. So when I came back after beating their leader I was gang raped by a dozen of them.
