>playing fallout 4
>decide to build a town like dimond city
>Build fort
>build wall around whole area
>finally walls done, now lets build some houses inside this town
>you can't build anymore
This is a joke right? Todd's gonna come out next update and be like "haha jk guys" Right?
the limitation is there to ensure that the game just works
this is really smart game design
>>319858995
>exit building mode
>drop items
>go back to building mode
>store dropped items in workbench
>yfw
>>319859487
i don't get it. you can just transfer everything from the work bench itself with one click
>Man this game sucks
>boring action RPG
>start building at settlement
>haha..hey this is pretty fun
>you like that? well too fucking bad, no more building. Faggot.
Literally my playthrough this morning.
>>319859557
well, you can get materials from armor and guns and stuff that way
>>319859557
Dropping weapons from your inventory then storing them in workbench clears up build space for some reason
Or just download a mod
It just works
>>319859579
Had no idea there was a limit on building. Gay.
>build walls, guard outposts, automated turrets on every corner
>"One of our settlements is under attack by ghouls a million miles away"
Can't wait for a mod that lets me dismember Preston and stick his head on a pike, fuck your radiant quests.
>>319858995
The worse part about it is: IT DOESNT FUCKING EXPLAIN HOW TO BUILD OR WHAT TO BUILD LET ALONE WHAT THE LIMIT IS
It's to ensure console players don't build too much and strain their systems
>RPG
>game forces companions on you
>can't kill them
JUST
>>319858995
theres a mod for that
but that doesnt count right lolol
>>319860071
Can I get it on my ps4?
>>319859979
More like so that the engine doesn't collapse in on itself.
>skyrim engine
>>319858995
because you walled out all your mexicans
>>319860474
it's funny because he wants to build a wall but then turns around and hires mexicans and chinese anyway
>>319860474
Even my game is keked.
>>319860064
>RPG
Where?
>>319859957
>I have to find out how to play the game on my own! m-muh tutorials
how to spot the 12 year oldyou now realize that someone actually complained about fallout not being casual enough
>>319860175
Sure thing, Todd said console friends will have mods, he wouldn't lie would he
>>319860652
>>319860064
You can dismiss them
>>319860717
nice post
>>319860064
CAUSE
>>319860587
>wanting to keep out illegals = wanting to stop immigration
thats right you good little lefty fuck spread the propaganda
>thinking the shitty ass engine can render that many objects
You can do what >>319859487 says to get around it, but it will probably become a colossal performance drain before you're able to do anything interesting.
There's an arbitrary ceiling too.
>first thing I try to build is my own Tower of Babel
>only able to get 4 stories before the shitty game won't let me build any higher
>>319858995
If you're on PC: 1. go mod the game to increase the size which literally takes 2 minutes.
2. pray game.
If you're on console: 1. return game to store.
2. buy pc.
3. use refund money to buy fallout 4 on pc.
4. mod it.
>>319858995
>mfw had enough room at Red rocket to build a wall with turrets surrounding the side enemies spawn, a large prefab for settlers with beds, trader posts, mutfruit a plenty, lights, and furniture for the garage
>mfw no face
I didnt bother with sanctuary, too big and takes forever to make a wall, then you have to place turrets in applicable places or enemies shit all over the place. I just said fuck em and made my base at RR.
How do I attract more settlers?
I had the beacon up and powered for like 10 hours, have 30 food, 200 water, 200 defense and some 50 beds, but only 9 people.
I need more slaves for my adhesive plantation.
>>319861148
higher charisma
>>319858995
the whole games budget was based on the pre-order money we got. its your fault its shit.
>>319861210
Wait, are you seriously telling me that the potential population is for some reason tied to my stats?
>mfw 1 Charisma
>>319861289
It's 10 + CHR if I remember right.
>>319861326
Todd wins again.
>>319861289
>one charisma
Unless you're doing a build that requires one charisma there's no excuse to have charisma that low.
>>319861380
>fallout 4
>builds
lol
>>319861380
Why? It has exactly zero interesting perks, unless you're super interested in the settlement building.
>>319861289
>1 charisma
Shouldve took the points out of intelligence instead.
>>319861486
>zero interesting perks
My legion of wasteland creatures and pet deathclaw would like a word with you.
>>319861380
Charisma is pretty weak all in all, considering even with it maxed out you can still fail speech checks and there isn't a single speech check in the game that makes it worth investing any points in it, only time I sorta wanted a higher CHR was when I had to deal with Danse, otherwise I had zero use for it.
Even Bethesda realized this, that's why they tied settlement building into it.
>>319861575
>maxed out speech check can still fail
Must be really rare since it hasnt happened to me yet.
>>319861471
It is still possible to do builds in fallout 4
>>319861486
>the ability to tame deathclaws
>not interesting
Also the local leader perk is a must if you're planning on doing settlements
>mfw not charismatic enough to build a workbench
>>319861637
It happened to me in "Lost Patrol" once, while trying to convince that guy to go back to BoS. I had 8 charisma at the time but it's laughable since you can quicksave/load in the middle of conversations.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/818/?
Just get a fucking mod and quit your crying.
/v/ taking the shit out of this game made me not want it, I ended up buying it anyway and it's great.
Sure, there are a lot of things that annoy me and that I dislike, but none of those things break the game or ruin it in anyway.
None of the MINOR issues make the game unplayable in anyway, Emphasis on MINOR.
Is it 10/10? No. Is it as good as fallout 3 or even new vegas? No. Is it fun? Yes.
>>319861762
>I have low standards and zero expectations : The Post
trying to get eugene cabot
quest is broken
never get to see her or talk to her
I might actually buy this game if it's patched well
![pirate-with-parrot1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aqbPQzN.jpg "pirate-with-parrot1[1].jpg")
>>319861018
>buying fallout 4 on pc
>>319861750
>complains about speech check fails but still save scums
Ayy
>>319861915
better than buying it on console
>>319861696
>not charismatic enough
>tfw fallout 4 is turning into real life
>>319861937
Didn't complain, I said it was laughable.
>>319861896
Wait for the GOTY release if anything, it has the least replayability out of all their games since it limits roleplaying so much.
I bought it on release and while I got 50 hours out of it, I still find it hard to recommend.
>>319861762
>Is it as good as fallout 3
>No
if fallout 4 is worse than fallout 3, then there is literally no reason to play it, not even with mods
what the fuck senpai
>>319861915
>playing Bethesda games on a console
enjoy your half-assed game while I mod mine to perfection
>>319858995
>buying fallout 4
This is why we need more education on birth control.
>>319861857
Not really, /v/ is just a bunch of bandwagoning neckbeards.
Fallout 4 is immersive as fuck, I just bought it like a week ago and already have like 20 hours into it.
>>319862124
F4 is a lot of things, immersive isn't one of them.
>>319862124
20 more hours and you'll get bored
>>319862042
Yeah there is?
I've beaten fallout 3 more times than I can count, the storyline, and even the sidequests are stale as fuck.
The fallout 4 quests and storyline is new, and fresh to me. So that's a reason to play it.
Even though it's not as good as 3, it's still worth playing.
Like lets use movies as an example.
The boondock saints 2 is not as good as the first movie.
Does that mean I should just watch the first movie twice?
No you fucking autist, it means that I watch the second one and just don't get as hype or enjoy it as much you fucking tard
>>319862254
That's 40 hours of gameplay.
That's enough for me. It's not a long winded JRPG.
>>319862239
How is it not immersive? What exactly ruins the immersion for you? There's so much shit to do, the only negative part of the immersion is the dialogue options but I don't see how anyone can even complain about that, at least now you have a fucking voice.
>>319862124
20 hours whoah dude you're really a huge no life
>>319862393
> at least not you have a voice
How is this good?
>>319862124
>>319862239
>>319862254
I've played 72 hours so far, the game story wise is shit.So really the gunplay and upgrading is the only redeeming feature.
>>319860064
>>319859905
go to users>your name>my documents>my games>fallout 4
open fallout4.ini
go to the bottom (a space below bReflectLODTrees=0) and paste the following text
[Gameplay]
bEssentialTakeNoDamage=0
have funi sure did. you're part of me now, curie. we're together at last. i love you.
>In some fucking settlement way out in the northeast
>Ghouls are coming up from there, take care of them before someone gets hurt
>Marker for ghouls is across the map on the otherside of the city
No problem generic settler named settler, I'll handle these migratory ghouls.
It just works.
>>319862393
>at least now you have a fucking voice.
Yeah, I really liked that faggot of a VA couldn't even role play as a cheesy comic book character in the Silver Shroud quest, he had to stutter. I think he was trying to reflect that you aren't allowed to role play in this game.
>>319862531
>no problem generic settler named settler
Best way to describe this game.
Thanks todd.
Glad it JUST
works.
>>319862483
Nah the story is definitely more engaging than it was in NV. The biggest drawback is probably that they removed skill checks.
The radiant quest are some of the most fucking incompetent programming I have seen in a long time. That includes amateur programming. Makes you wonder are Bethesda programmers fucking stupid.
>>319862561
Or when he screams when you take psycho.
I think he was going for the first autistic main character in a video game. The famale va is supposed to be good though.
>>319862456
How so?
>get off work at 6pm
>play 5 hours a night untill 11pm on weekdays
>go out on weekends
That's 20 hours in 4 days. Why the fuck would I go out during the week days? I can't go out and party and have fun with friends I work at 6 am every day.
>>319862483
The gunplay is fucking horrid, the only reason to play it is for the storyline. Shooting just feels so.. unsatisfying. The gunshot sounds are horrible, the recoil and animations are bad.
Hell the gunplay in the game is so bad I've played my whole storyline in 3rd person
>Fallout 4
Wait what? When did Obsidian announce this?
Fallout Boston sucks donkey dick, just like Fallout DC before it
Here's hoping Obsidian can outdo Fallout 3.
>>319862276
>boondock saints 2 is literally a travesty
>still watching it because "muh new content"
yes, and if you liked dragon age, you should play dragon age 2, right?
fuck your worthless opinion and fuck everything you stand for
>>319862708
>Look at me I'm a retard! Hey guys loook!
>>319862687
Have you finished it?
>>319862687
The storyline is shit as well senpai
>>319859206
underrated post senpai desu
>>319862687
>playing a bethesda game for the story over gameplay
>>319862652
Yeah, that's my biggest complaint is the character development was simplified to the point of me hating it.
No skill points, tag skills, or any actual character building.. Just perks. I think i have like 3 unspent perk points just because they really don't even fucking matter towards the gameplay.
>>319862393
>What exactly ruins the immersion for you?
The fact that you're given a character with a defined backstory
horrible dialogue (I can't stress this enough, there is zero choice in the dialogue if you want to progress you're just given variations on "Yes, I'll do it")
the game does nothing with unique locations, every new zone you discover is just a place for you to shoot more nameless raiders, no unique events, nothing
everyone sucks your dick the second you do a quest for them, the BoS and Minutemen being the worst offenders
I can't even recommend it to fans of F3, it's just a horrible roleplaying game.
>>319862660
It just amazing how much they didn't improve from Skyrim, it's literally exactly the same. And I know all Bethesda games are basically the same, but all the other ones get such high reviews for all having the same problems, I guess people are finally seeing them.
Like all the problems reviewers listed for Fallout 4, Skyrim also has, and that's like a fucking 94 on metacritic for some reason.
There's going to be a limit no matter what, there's only so much shit you can shove into memory.
>>319859957
there is a bar in the screen telling you what it is.
Its not hard to figure it out.
>>319862803
Nice comeback bethesdrone, you mad your shitty spinoffs will never be considered true Fallout games?
>>319861492
Lel
>aware that there is an alien craft somewhere in the Commonweath
>happened to be inside a building at the time Piper asked me if i saw that too
>no, i didn't fucking see it, i was inside a building
>>319860674
>Figuring out how to use a shitty obtuse interface to do something that's mostly for fun, with certain rules not mentioned at all.
>Having appreciable depth to the mechanics that the player can look into.
They're not mutually exclusive and they're completely different. Other games, even ones that aren't casualised or dumbed down, for example, Morrowind, explain the basic rules behind their mechanics, like whether there's a fucking limit to how much stuff you can place.
>>319862813
nah, i've been running around doing a bunch of sidequests and shit. I never rush through the main story.
>inb4 you spoil it.
I already know.
>>319862825
The mainstoryline is and always has been shit, even since the first fallout. I meant the storyline as a whole, all the sidequests are fun and cool and keep me engaged for hours at a time
>>319862727
nah boondock saints 2 was still good /v/ just can't rate things.
Boondock saints was a fucking masterpiece, it was perfection, 100 percent perfection. Expecting that perfection to come again sets you up for failure.
Like with fallout 2. Fallout 2 is the definition of videogame perfection. If I expected bethesda to SOMEHOW make fallout 3 better than fallout 2 I would have absofuckinglutely hated fallout 3. But I didnt expect them to top masterpiece.
That's like saying anything DaVinci painted after the mona lisa is shit because it wasn't better than the mona lisa.
Everyone on /v/ wears a fedora, don't they?
>>319862882
a-atleast the game looks nicer and you can create your character more extensively.
There's no point in arguing about this game, honestly. Bethesda knows their target audience, and it's one that doesn't care about all the things 'we' care about. Bethesda and its games are the Starbucks of video games.
>>319862848
yup at least f3 had some good side quests that were kinda fleshed out. F4 just has boring fetch quests with like 2 or 3 good side quests. Even the main story is boring as shit. The game has no heart in it at all.
>>319862936
But they are? /v/ is literally the only place SOME people think that, you included. Must suck to be delusional.
>what kept me going and doing sidequest and main mission was the thought of getting more caps to finish my sweet town at redrocket.
>you can't build anymore
I can't even find a reason to play anymore now. Man, I'm depressed now.
>>319863107
>all the sidequests are fun and cool and keep me engaged for hours at a time
Do share what side quest are fun. I can't remember anything interesting aside from clear X location from Y.
>>319862828
It will always be a Fallout game, before it's a bethesda game. And yes, you play fallout for the fucking story,
>>319863196
>it will always be a fallout game before it's a bethesda game
>>319863147
Get a mod that extends/removes the cap? That's what I did.
>>319863462
I would.
I bought it on ps4. And what sucks most is, I have a gaming PC.
>>319862936
Yeah, they're shitty, but they own the IP and they determine what is considered a real fallout game, not some over-nostalgic basement tard like you.
PS: The original fallout games were shitty, too.
For those who haven't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A34poZ6paGs
~80 minutes of why the game sucks. Normal I don't care for rants like that, but they guy made the video tolerable to watch.
>>319863196
>The fallout fan base is one person, and that's me!
>Just finished building up The Castle
>24 food, 40 water and 160 defence (it's deFENCE, not FENSE. What the fuck does FENSE even mean?)
>As soon as I port to do other shit, I get the message that The Castle is under attack
>24 Food, 40 Water, 160 DEFENCE!
>Come back, my turrets obliterate the raiders, literally did nothing but watch the massacre
>If I'd ignore it, they would have lost the fight
>Game requires me to be there to babysit my settlers
>This happened 2 times already
And this is why I went with low Charisma and didn't bother with Settlements, they're such a fucking chore and pointless.
You just need one good base and be done with it. Fuck this game and fuck you Todd
>>319863515
>buying a Bethesda game on a console
You have nobody to blame but yourself. What were you even thinking?
>>319863147
That's how I felt when I finished building this wall back up and furnishing the interiors of it and adding defenses on the otherside then realizing, that's all of my building space.
Really ruined the building aspect of the game for me, up until that point I was going to keep building up other settlements but now I don't even want to bother.
I got the mod that freezes the progress bar but the whole thing still kinda killed my drive, and now I'm paranoid over building might fuck with my save. Also the AI couldn't navigate that building for shit.
>>319863194
All of the companion quests.
The Dig
Confidence Man
Human Error
Kid in a Fridge (If you didn't like that indiana jones reference fuck you)
All the extra info you get off the terminals really adds to the immersion.
Actually, instead of arguing with you neckbeards, I think I'm gonna boot it up and continue my playthrough.
Also if you bought it on a console you have no right to bitch about the quality of the game because you're fuckign retarded enough to play it on console when its clearly meant to be played on a PC with mods. Just like FO3, and every other Bethesda game
>>319863605
I trusted Todd.
>>319862660
>The radiant quest are some of the most fucking incompetent programming I have seen in a long time.
If this is serious: lol. Yea, clearly the programmers' fault for implementing something that is designed poorly in the first place.
>>319858995
Only a concern if you're playing on console, OP. You can mod away the building limitation.
Why would anyone play a Bethesda game on anything but a PC? Mods are pretty much a staple in the experience (and also to fix all the shit they're too lazy to do themselves).
>>319863107
>Boondock saints was a fucking masterpiece, it was perfection, 100 percent perfection. Expecting that perfection to come again sets you up for failure.
holy shit
no wonder you have such shit taste when you think that a over-the-top actiondrama is a masterpiece
what is wrong with people nowadays
>>319863603
Settlement attacks are completely pointless. All your npcs are immortal, enemies can't/don't attack your structures or items, besides turrets. The whole thing is just the game going "Hey, I spawned some raiders/super-mutants here in case you want to fight the- ...oh, you turrets have already ripped the to shreds. Thanks for sitting through the loading-screen anyway."
>>319863603
>>319863603
>deFENCE
wat?
>>319863651
Maybe I would find Confidence man fun if it didn't bug out on me. Thanks Todd.
>>319862882
honestly for what it was, i had fun with fallout 4 because it was one of those games where it was so vague i could just come up with my own story. so i basically just killed off an entire island of mirelurks and built myself a post-apoc throne like i was one of the warlords from lisa: the joyful. but even then, i didn't put 238 hours into new vegas to be suckered by bethesda. these are the problems i had with fallout 4:
>bethesda butchered the lore again (no shit, i don't need to elaborate)
>no hardcore mode, survival difficulty is the best we've got but even stimpaks in hardcore mode worked almost instantly
>no skill checks
>no weapon/armor degradation
>no dual wielding brass knuckle(s)
>nearly every weapon suffers from what i call "prefixed weapon syndrome" a la borderlands where the basic weapons are all randomized. it adds variety, yeah, but i don't want to have to choose between a pansexual styrofoam suppressed assault rifle or a janitor's sparkling coochie-ripper assault rifle. just give me a fucking assault rifle
>companions can't die unless you modify the fallout4.ini file
>settlers can't die unless you install a mod
>all the endings are shit
>the brotherhood is portrayed as what they aren't: the lawful good high tech lawbringers in power armor whose sole job is to keep the wasteland a safe place to protect it from all evil
among other things.
>>319863651
>Kid in a Fridge
This was the single most retarded quest/event in the entire game. He was stuck in there for 210 years and acts as if he'd been trapped for half an hour. His parents live 5 fucking minutes away. In two centuries nobody has ever walked through that area, which is right next to a street ffs, nothing has ever knocked the fridge over and the fridge has never rusted or deteriorated enough to be pushed open.
Whoever designed that quest must've been legitimately retarded.
>>319863816
fuk of ameratard
>>319863816
>consulting an American website for correct English spellings
Can we just clearly separate American English from actual English already?
>select language
>English has an American flag next to it
>>319863974
>bethesda butchered the lore again (no shit, i don't need to elaborate)
No, please do. I want to see what bullshit you've made up this time.
>>319863701
>Haley quartermastery quest can send you to the same location twice in a row
>Settlers you have told you were minuteman will ask you if you are minuteman again if you have another settlement quest in the same location
>Preston can tell you he heard a settlement is in need of help while standing in said settlement
Simple if else statements would have fixed those problems. Yeah it is the programmers fault they can't implement a simple quest where Haley doesn't send you to retrieve the fucking same tech in the fucking same place twice in a row.
>>319863989
I guarantee one of the first and most popular mods once the GECK comes out is the complete purging of this quest and everything related to it. It needs to be erased.
>>319864051
Not even him but fusion cores
>>319863974
I enjoyed the game too, and I'll probably sink hundreds of more hours into it with mods, I fucking played 1535 hours of New Vegas. But It's just heart breaking how stupid a lot of the decisions they made were.
Why the fuck would you take out item durability and repairing in a game where you have endless junk and shit to use for crafting.
>>319858995
>playing on a console
It's your own fucking fault, idiot.
Didn't they say consoles were getting mods for fallout 4?
If it's true, I need the no limit building mod now.
>>319864178
>Not even him but fusion cores
You mean the things designed to last 200 years at most, which were made 200 years ago?
>>319863974
>no weapon/armor degradation
This is a good thing
>the brotherhood is portrayed as what they aren't: the lawful good high tech lawbringers in power armor whose sole job is to keep the wasteland a safe place to protect it from all evil
No? they were like this in FO3 and FO3NV
They were the token good guys.
In FO4 they're actually kinda dicks and sorta on the same level of hitler, wanting to exterminate all life that doesn't coincide with what the brotherhood views as Ideal
>bethesda butchered the lore again (no shit, i don't need to elaborate)
No shit, even obsidian butchered the lore. The lore isn't ever going to go back to interplay's interpretation, you just have to get used to the way bethesda interprets the lore,
>nearly every weapon suffers from what i call "prefixed weapon syndrome" a la borderlands where the basic weapons are all randomized. it adds variety, yeah, but i don't want to have to choose between a pansexual styrofoam suppressed assault rifle or a janitor's sparkling coochie-ripper assault rifle. just give me a fucking assault rifle
There's actually no instance of this, unless you're talking legendary spawns in which case, you can only have one prefix, the rest of the prefixes are attachments.
>no dual wielding brass knuckle(s)
Cant do this in FO, FO:Tactics, FO2, FO3 or FO:NV
>all the endings are shit
Welcome to 2015, do you want your ending red blue or green?
>no hardcore mode, survival difficulty is the best we've got but even stimpaks in hardcore mode worked almost instantly
>no skill checks
Those are literally your only two valid complaints.
>>319864051
Not him but:
- Jet existing pre-war
- vertibirds absolutely everywhere pre-war
- BOS are now about destroying technology, not preserving it
- T60 power armor pulled out of their asses
- once again no semblance of civilization emerging on the east-cost, even after 200 years because Bethesda wants to milk the 'post-apocalyptic' setting for all it's worth
>>319864245
Yeah, most certainly limited to what you can accomplish solely with the creation kit.
>>319864051
>Power armor needing fusion cores that run out
>Vertibirds existing pre-war
>Jet existing pre-war
There's more but Bethesdrones will just dismiss it with 'b-but muh gameplay abstraction' or 'b-but it can be explained away'
Can't wait for the real Fallout 4.
>>319864265
Until you put one into a power armor and they instantly last 30 minutes max. Do you even know how fusion cores work?
>>319864000
You realize american english is actually the traditional british english, because we have a more similar dialect to the english spoke when we were colonized, where the Brits version of english kept evolving into their shit tier cockney slang?
>muh british english is real engrish not you muricanz,
Fuckin spergs.
>>319864168
>>319863989
You two have never played the original fallouts, have you?
The only reason the quest is in the game is a pop culture reference.
Indie hides from a nuke in a fridge. The quest is a joke poking fun at indiana jones.
Fallout used to be FULL of pop culture references, that's why seeing the kid in the fridge was so fucking great for me.
>ATOM BOMB BABY LOADED WITH POWER
>>319864506
You sound like you would enjoy Borderland a lot.
Lmao got this reference *wink* *wink*
>>319864331
In the original fallout and fallout 2, jet was actually found in a LOT of locations that were NEVER touched since the war.
So that issue you're crying about, with pre-war jet has always occurred
>While it is said that Myron created jet, Mrs. Bishop says that she got hooked on jet by John Bishop (before they got married) and for that she got kicked out of Vault City, which would require jet to be much older than Myron is. According to Chris Avellone, what Mrs. Bishop says is a mistake and is not canon. It is more likely that Bishop got her hooked on some other drug. Consistent use of jet will have muddled Mrs. Bishop's perceptions in any case.
Fallout 2 had Mrs. Bishop getting addicted to Jet before Jet even existed.
So what are your ideas for the (hopefully) inevitable Obsidian Fallout?
>setting includes the Boneyard
>you can be a merchant or a raider-boss
>instead of settlements you build outposts focused on trade-routes or territorial control
>you can either work with the NCR (merchant) or fight against them (raider)
>can build small attack-squads and plan raids on cities or caravans
>can customize and equip members of your posse
Alternatively, you could have the NCR as a 3rd path, with you rising through the ranks and managing local outposts and logistics.
>>319864305
>Jet existing pre-war
Oh, man, a nerd claims he invented it, wow, there's literally no way he would falsely claim this after figuring out how to make it from cow shit!
>vertibirds absolutely everywhere pre-war
When the bombs are falling, you put every asset into service, even the prototypes.
>BOS are now about destroying technology, not preserving it
I think you're high.
>T60 power armor pulled out of their asses
I mean, probably, but why do you think they would stop power armor advancement at T-51? War was everywhere.
>once again no semblance of civilization emerging on the east-cost
Raiders, mutants, radiation, and pre-war experiments like deathclaws would make rebuilding a major civilization pretty hard.
>>319864506
No, finding the fedora and the skeleton in the fridge in NV was a reference to that. And it was funny, because in this case notIndy dies like a bitch because even a leadlined fridge isn't going to save you from being in the blast radius of an atom bomb, as opposed to the movie where he survives totally unscathed.
The kid, locked for 200 years in a fridge, with no food or water, not even 5 minutes away from his parents, is just fucking retarded and no level of suspension of disbelief can make it not retarded.
>>319864331
Did you even fucking read?
>According to Chris Avellone, what Mrs. Bishop says is a mistake and is not canon.
She can't have gotten addicted to jet because it didn't exist back then.
jesus christ you bethesdrones are retards, the new """Fallout""" games really are perfect for you
>>319864807
Groundhog day and we get to play New vegas again in a updated engine with an actual finished legion area on the otherside of the river. With fleshed out continued play after mainquest completion.
And Ron Perlman voices a companion and we get to be best friends.
>>319864807
Obsiden making another one? I never played 1 and 2 but I played new vegas like 7 playthroughs. They know rpgs. I mean when every bad guy is named "Raider" you can just tell it's bethesda.
You really think they'll make another game?
>>319864807
I hope that rumor about Fallout 4 possibly being set in Louisiana is true
>voodoo-controlled ghouls
>raiders on repurposed mardi gras floats
>radgators
yespls
>>319858995
go play minecraft idiot
>>319863974
continued.
one of the biggest issues i have with fallout 4 is (like fallout 3) it's absolutely humorless. aside from a couple charismatic companions and token 'funny' moments, a lot of the natural dark humor that was present with the interplay/obsidian fallout games is completely gone. fallout new vegas took place in a desolate, sandy wasteland and knew when to get serious, but the entire experience was just significantly more fun and memorable than fallout 3 and 4.
>wild wasteland perk
>wang dang atomic tango
>patrolling the mojave etc etc
>the entirely different dialogue you get with low intelligence
>fantastic
>What the-- You son of a-- God damn motherf-- Ugh, let me out!
>that one ghoul prostitute in gomorrah
>sabotaging the rocket takeoff during 'come fly with me'
>tabitha
>lily
>fuck, a lot of the schizo supermutants were great
>old world blues
>ed-e and rex narrating their own epilogues
>Voice directing is provided by Sam "Riegal Sam" Riegel
>YOU WANT SOME WEAPON SCHEMATICS? I CAN SHOW YOU SOME FUCKING WEAPON SCHEMATICS
>YOU WANT A SUPERHEATED SATURNITE POWER FIST? I CAN HOOK THAT SHIT UP
there was just something more fucking memorable about the 'classic' fallout games, but i've sunk the most hours into new vegas so it's stuck with me the most.
honestly, 'accepted apocalypse' sort of scenarios are the ones i like the most--shit like new vegas or maybe LISA or hellmoo to some extent. not really a "oh shit, the bomb dropped. we're gonna fucking die, dude" kind of scenario but more a "oh shit, the bomb dropped. let's kick back, have a beer and deal with it" kind of scenario.
>>319863692
We all did anon. We all did.
>>319864959
>"""Fallout"""
Is your keyboard broken? Why the fuck are you using so many quotation marks?
>>319865540
Because he's trying to fit in with the special "le not reel falout LOL!!" crowd.
>>319865025
One can only hope.
>>319865176
I think he only said he'd like to make one set there, nothing solid.
>>319865389
>sarcastic lines
>funny remarks when skipping dialogue
>piper's commentary
Fallout 4 is not humorless you fuck. The only reason you'd say that is because you're so completely blinded by your expectation that you can't see the game for what it is.
New Vegas was so fucking bad.
You choose between token good guys or token bad guys or the cop out yes man storyline.
At least in fallout 4 all the factions aren't black and white.
>>319865773
Wait. Is house token good? Or is NCR? Also, I sided with enclave.
>>319865861
The ncr is token good and the legion is token bad.
What the fuck are you talking about siding with the enclave you only have the choices of ncr or legion
>>319865773
>Fallout Boston was so fucking bad.
>You choose between token good guys or token bad guys or the cop out Minutemen storyline.
>At least in Fallout 3 all the factions aren't black and white.
fixed that post for you, no need to thank me
>>319865946
the enclave were in new vegas, but they'd already been pretty much destroyed by then. when you find them, they consist of five old farts wearing power armor who live in a cave.depending on who you side with, though, they'll fight for you during the final battle.
>>319865713
Not that guy, but it is humorless, you fuck. Its just ironic hipster shit pandering to hipster fucks like you.
>>319865996
How the fuck, is the brotherhood token good guys? They want to kill everything that isn't their definition of human, their the closest to the original brotherhood as they were before. Their self righteous quasi religious mein kampfy extremists.
The Institute isn't token evil, either. The Institute is realistically humanities best hope for the future of the wasteland, they're just going about it in an evil way.
And the railroad I don't know enough about yet because I ignored them on my first playthrough.
>>319865389
The one difference that really makes me dislike Bethesda's Fallout compared to Obsidian's Fallout is the utter lack of rebuilding going on in the east.
They did that in FO3 and they repeated the same crap in FO4. Everything looks like it's only been a few decades since the bombs dropped instead of two centuries. Streets and buildings are cluttered with debris still left over from the war, even though people actually live there.
The whole game looks like nobody has done any kind of cleaning up since the radiation cleared, or rebuilding, or repainting etc. It ties into Bethesda's bullshit idea of making the whole place look 'post-apocalypticy'.
By contrast, the west-coast has actually started rebuilding long ago, has something resembling a nation-state emerging and has a detailed history of civilization returning from the brink after the war.
It's much, much more consistent on what people would really do, instead of wallowing in stagnation to preserve that shanty-town look.
The fact that you can only build clunky, uneven and half-broken-down walls and houses for your settlements in FO4 points to that as well. If you are already breaking materials down to rebuild, why do all of your constructions look like shit? Why can't you just saw a few planks of wood from all the trees and nail them together evenly? Why does it have to look like the hut you just built has been ravaged by decay for decades already?
>>319866034
But you can't side with the enclave. This twat said he sided with the enclave.
>>319866059
No it's not. You're just so stuck in your Bethesda hate that you miss when they get it right for once and make a decent game.
>>319861982
my point was
>to build a workbench
which makes zero sense, since craftsmanship has nothing to do with charisma
>>319866227
well said, that's basically what mr. house was trying to explain to all of us with new vegas. even if the bombs dropped, it doesn't mean that we have to lose all of the pleasures that make us human. let's preserve new vegas and give the residents of the wasteland a place to kick back.
>>319866367
I would have agreed with you til I hit the building limit.
Now I hate this fucking game.
>>319866367
Yeah it's definitely not humorless, I've laughed a decent number of times.
There's no ridiculous Monty python references or anything like fallout 2 had, but fallout 2 had some piss your pants funny moments in it.
A lot of the sarcastic remarks and skipping through conversations are fucking hilarious.
Unless you faggots have piper in your party and she's ruining your fun since you can't do anything she doesn't like.
>Cait master race
>can't tell anymore if the Bethesda-cocksuckers itt are just trolling or genuinely believe the crap they're posting
I'm losing my touch, guys.
>>319864807
Obsidian is dead.
>>319866532
True, but the problem I found with House, and the reason I usually side against him, is that he is an arrogant perfectionist who wants to discard humanity and the Earth because things didn't work out the way he wanted to.
If he were to go through with his plan and settle on another planet, things would only turn out as before, since he is still stuck in the same pre-war mentality and has learned nothing. He wants to throw everything away and start over every time something goes wrong, instead of fixing it.
>>319858995
>playing beth games on a console
>not getting on pc with mods so you can make your own favela
>>319861915
>0fps
>not being completely nude launching babies from the fatman
what are you some kind of pleb or something?
>>319866854
Does this kill the FPS? The game already runs like garbage.
>>319862647
no plz,
my worst fear for this game was that the characters, quests and story were as bland as skyrim, please tell me it aint so
>>319866607
Not a Bethesda cock sucker. Fallout 4 isn't perfect it isn't amazing. But it's at least mediocre and maybe even good.
Infact, I've hated every single elder scrolls after morrowind. Morrowind was the last good elder scrolls game. Oblivion was bad. And skyrim is absolutely fucking terrible.
>>319866985
It's more bland.
>>319866965
The game doesn't run like garbage, your rig is just garbage lel.
>>319866854
I could never get autistic enough to build something like that. There is no pay-off and the game doesn't acknowledge it either.
I mean, you basically built an entire town, larger than Diamond City, but since every single aspect of the game is designed to be optional, it has no impact at all.
I could understand spending so much time with the awful building mode and constantly toggling tcl to align objects, provided it'd have an effect on the game. Like caravans travelling in and out, actual people in the streets, maybe your own radio-station.
>>319866854
>no using "disable" on the dead guy and dog at the end of the bridge
>they stay here forever
At least throw them in the river
>>319867156
You have to "markfordelete" and then "disable" or they just come back after a week.
>>319867141
That would take a thing called
"Taking the extra mile"
Todd just woke up sweating as those words are spoken.
ITT: Spastics. Literally spastics.
>kid in a fridge quest
Easily the dumbest thing in this game. You're telling me some kid has been trapped in a refrigerator for 200 (read: fucking long time) years and is still alive? I don't care if he's a ghoul, that shits stupid. Its even dumber that his family is still alive too and live about half a mile away
allowing unlimited building would cause consoles to explode
you can get a mod that fixes it for the only relevant platform
>>319867442
shh shh it just works
>>319867093
>texture pop-in
>2015
Sure mate.
>>319858995
If you're on PC:
Open the console, click on the workbench for that settlement, then run "setav 348 0" and "setav 34a 0". Next time you enter build mode, you will be back at a size of zero.
>>319867442
The game is full of contrived coincidences like that. Your family getting accepted literally minutes before the bombs drop, the Vault Tec guy still being in Boston after 200 years and just randomly running into you at the hotel, Nick Valentine's quest with the guy he was chasing still being in that fucking shelter after all this time, not to mention all his tapes still being intact and exactly where they were left before the war.
One of the most idiotic things is also: Sturges can somehow pull the knowledge to build the teleport-interceptor out of his ass, but cannot hack a terminal at the start to get to the fusion core and use the power armor himself.
In my humble opinion
Fallout 4 didn't disappoint. I knew everything I was gonna get.
Because it wasn't a disappointment and I knew exactly what I was going to get: it is GOTY
>>319866854
How in the fug did you get enough wood to build all that? Serious question.
>>319868104
tgm. I have enough money to buy wood but fuck building ten items at a time.
>>319866985
Some interesting stuff. Mostly quite bland.
>>319868104
console everything in or toggle god mode. enjoy having fun building instead of running around as a garbage man looking for screws.
>>319860717
>RPG
>Not an explosive slingshot
>>319866985
The main quest is arguably worse than the one from Fallout 3. Do the math.
>You don't get to kidnap any civilians and replace them with synths for the institute
>You don't get to use the fightclub
>You don't get to bet at the race track
>You don't get to join the children of atom
>You don't get to turn the minutemen into anything but wasteland errandboys
>>319858995
You play on PC right?
You know how to mod a game, RIGHT?
If not enjoy Bethesdas quality(tm) cock until paid console modding comes out.
>>319866854
Looks like the phillipines
I never bought anything in the game. Just find everything. Caps a worthless.
>>319868908
You can buy the combat rifle from vaoult 81, which basically powers the difficuly by 4 settings.
>>319865773
If you think the NCR are "token good guys" you either didn't play the game or you just skipped over all the dialogue.
>Build awesome wall and a shitton of turrets, arm guards to the teeth
>Settlement NEVER EVER gets attacked
I haven't seen my turrets fire even once, come on
>>319869649
You need more food than defense for them to attack breh
Holy shit guys.
Right now you can bypass the limit by dropping weapons on the ground and storing them in the workshop via the building menu.
I can put as much stuff as I fucking want now. Fucking thank god.
Thank god for bethesda glitch fest
>>319862687
>How so?
>>get off work at 6pm
>>play 5 hours a night untill 11pm on weekdays
>>go out on weekends
holy shit retard, he is being ironic, how can you respond to that on /v/, we're the fucking video games section We're supposed to spend a lot of time in fucking gaming WHY ARE YOU RESPONDING TO A SHIT BAIT
>>319866985
As bland? No, the dialogue wheel which basically only ever gives you two options means they're even blander.
