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>Willfully choosing to help non humans ever Sliver dragon was right
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>Willfully choosing to help non humans ever
Sliver dragon was right
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>>319845696
I chose fairy creatures because of delicious dark elves. Also. Valkyrie is best party member.
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I sided with elves or whatever but immediately lost interest and dropped the game. How far in was I?
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>>319846757

near the end, not counting extras
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>>319848274
Ridley sucked she legit hates you for 1/3 of the game then suddenly turns into Jack's girlfriend after she gets you kicked from the Knights. Hertz, Lily, and that one tomboy from the order are the only good girls
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>>319849469
>she gets you kicked from the Knights
That was all her father's doing, you know.
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Zane is so clearly crazy that choosing to side with him for reasons other than just following Ridley is crazy. There's no sense in doing whatever universal reset shit the elves wanted
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>ending humanity for some horrible tsundere cunt
Kill yourself race traitor

All the best characters are human.
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The thing is that humans did such a spectacular job of fucking shit up for themselves that they really only have themselves to blame for a lot of shit. As an outsider looking it, I had a hard time sympathizing with humanity, so I ended up just following Ridley.
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>that OP cutscene where Jack's dad fights water dragon


what was that rage disease called again?
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>>319851805
Cross fucked that shit up trying to become known as some great war hero. Had he not sperg d out on the dwarves everything would have been cool
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>>319851805
>All of humanity is to blame.
Nigger logic.
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>>319851975
Algandars
I like how every light elf is from /pol/ and blames the disease on race mixing
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>>319852079
It's not that all of humanity's to blame, but I don't see why other races should be punished for their shit.

And it's not even as if I have any real reason to side with humanity here. Just because they CALL themselves human doesn't mean I have any obligation to sympathize with them. This is clearly a different society in a different country on a different world. These people are just as foreign to me as the elves.

Like I said, outside looking in. Neither of these sides have anything to do with me.
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>>319851975
Algandars.

>No postgame solo Jack vs. Cairn videos
What the hell, isn't there any player who has respect for the boss they fight?

>>319851989
He also brought the blood orcs to the dark elf village, that fucker.
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>>319852441
If you brought Mikey to the elf ruins, you find out the light elves were right.

Too bad for the elf king, though.
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>>319845696
is there a way to emulate this? that isn't shitty as fuck?
I used to have it and never finished it, my ps2 is in another country
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>>319852549
The post game dungeon was too hard for that nonsense. I had Kain, Elwen, Nyx, was max level and still had to play as a secondary healer to beat Etheral Queen
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>>319845696
That moment when silver dragon kills your best party member in a cutscene right before the boss fight.

I'm still mad.
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>>319853338
Worse part is how Ganz just stays there to die with his father's corpse right after you beat him for no reason at all and Jack and Ridley don't even try to make him come
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And I still have no idea what happened at the end of the Non-human route. What's with the empty town and Jack's echoing voice?
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>>319849469
>i literally didn't play the game for more than 5 hours
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>>319853045
But I was only talking about Cairn, who wanted a solo fight. Someone could've simply removed Jack's party, fought Cairn alone, then simply relist their party.

>>319853589
>you beat him for no reason at all
He wanted Ridley dead. Jack, who defied humanity for his waifu, was not having any of that shit.

>Jack and Ridley don't even try to make him come
You respect a man's wishes, and if he wants to die with his father, no amount of talk will sway him.
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>>319853589
Do you people have legit autism? How the fuck is the story in this children's game too complicated for you?
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>>319853965
Plus, the tower was literally collapsing right that moment. Even if they tried to force him to come, well.

Have you seen the guy? Even if the two of them worked together I doubt they would have budged him.
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We're formations worth it?

I never used them for the entirety of the game but maybe I just didn't get it
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>>319854054
Says the fuckwit ignorant to humanity being wiped out in the NH ending besides Jack and Ridley.
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Outside of Ridley dying
The Human end is way better and feels more rewarding. The fairy creatures will continue to live and do their thing while humans do their's
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>>319845696
> see "Radiata Stories" on the catalog
>"hmmm.. whats this ? Looks like an RPG that I've never heard of..."
> Read it's wiki page
> no PAL release
Every fucking time REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>319854198
Line, Square, Kamikaze
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>>319854256
And Jack leaves town forever.
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>>319854198
You just needed the basic one to roll everything in the game.

>>319854243
>besides Jack and Ridley.
>the only characters that matter
Human route has better characters sure but the canon end is fairy, you feel like shit otherwise. The human route is just for more gameplay and better characters for that ng+ dungeon.

>>319854256
The feel is too bad.
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>>319854363
>but the canon end is fairy
You tell yourself that race traitor.
>you feel like shit otherwise.
No, I wouldn't.
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>>319854198
Guard Link with anti-knockback, 0 guard damage, and volty regen? Whatever that third link needed, you can cheese Ethereal Queen with it.
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>>319854320
It sold so poor in Japan and the states that SE wasn't willing to try to fail again
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>>319854565
So please tell me its shit and I didn't miss out
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>>319854565
That's rough.
It's a very underrated game.
Glad I still have my copy
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>>319854635
Honestly I like it a lot it has some problems but they're not offensive or anything. I think it's worth at least emulating just to experience it
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>>319854256
>Jack never learns the truth of his father's death in that route
>and never gets to use Arbitrator
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>>319854635
It's pretty much my favourite ps2 rpg.
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>>319845696
Literally the most underrated RPG of all time.
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>>319853045
I basically soloed everything because I kept low power waifu shitters instead of replacing them with S rank guys. Lenneth helped though
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>>319855037
US cover lied it has weapons and armor you can't get on the same path
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I'm still kinda glad tri-Ace is still around, you think Stat Ocean 5 will be any good?
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>>319854635
It's not 10/10 but I enjoyed it.

Has a great bittersweet atmosphere.

>that moment where you fight your old squad mates after siding with the non-humans
I wasn't ready for that
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>>319855360
>Just threw poison at them and ran away
Only way I could beat those fights, at least I'm pretty sure they just let through if you lost for the harder fights.

Also Leona best girl, had her forever in the party as soon as I recruited her.
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>Sequel never ever
>You will never wander around the comfy Radiata landscape with improved graphics and more characters
>There will never be a Radiata game where you can romance your squad
>You will never be able to marry the best girl Alicia

Just Volty me bretheren
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I need to open this up and get some non shit screenshots out there holy fuck
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>>319855845
My nigga.
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>>319855974
I can't even get past the first 3 seconds of it, it's so bad. Two people are staring straight ahead yet still manage to bump into each other head first like literal retards. Also the impact effect looks like one or both of them was shot, it shows up before they bump into eachother.
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>>319846757
The last act. The nonhuman path is shorter than the human path, mostly because it becomes linear again and most nonhumans aren't worth recruiting. You basically get your best members just from playing the game (Ganz and a green orc). Human path stays nonlinear longer with more missions, and its worth recruiting more companions.
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>>319856075
It's a video game.
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>>319855845
Was she even good? I got her so late that she wasn't worth grinding.

>>319855901
I had a dream a while back about a sequel to this game On the 360 for whatever reason. For whatever reason, Alicia and Natalie welcomed me into Theatre Vancoor. I was ready to start recruiting new party members. Then I woke up and realized there will never be a sequel to this game.

>>319855904
Best girl.
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>>319851131
Well Ridley is literally the reason Jack went with the nonhumans. He might be sympathetic towards them but its literally Ridley he did it all for.

Hell, hes totally willing to be party to the destruction of humanity for her.
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>>319856092

Human path is also fun as all hell, and way more interesting.
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>>319854363
>the fairy ending is canon
Until theres another game, canon is irrelevant. Besides its hard to do a sequel if all of humanity is dead.
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>>319856129
It's a video game that sold like shit, probably cuz of stupid junk like that webm.
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>>319856238
Yeah, I did fairy first because it seemed like the "right" choice, but human was definitely better.
>Get more fun quests
>Get better teammates
>Get to date the girl you spent the most time with for one night
>Get to work with Dynas and Cross
>Cross dies trying to warn you
>Ganz doesn't die
>Ending had more feels than fairy ending

Honestly the part that stuck with me most in the nonhuman ending was the last fight with Jarvis and Daniel.
>Well I'll see you around. No, actually i suppose I won't.

Man, I wish the manga wasn't such trash. I was hyped when it looked like it was going with the Human path, but then they did some best of both worlds bullshit. Im not really quite sure what happened since the translations stopped like 2 volumes from the ending.
It was cool that Ganz stayed in the thieves guild and helped Jack against the wind dragon then joined him for reals later.

The art style was atrocious though.
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>>319856160
Since character don't learn new skills there's like a clear progression for who you should use and who you should. The only reason you stick with certain characters is because you like them
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>>319856298
You are being seriously overcritical.
It probably didn't sell well because from all apearances it was just another JRPG in a big crowd of them.
Besides it was pretty weird looking. First time I saw the trailer, I thought it looked pretty bad. But then it grew on me.
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Is this game worth it? I remember trying it on my PS2 and thinking the combat system was too simplistic.
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How come there's no good healer on the fairy creatures path? I thought they'd be good at magic
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>this game getting attention

What a pleasant surprise. Also, human route is the bad end.
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>>319856504
But anon, the manga was okay.

Cross's evil grin was one of the best.
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>>319856613
Romaria and some Light elf whose name escapes me are your only good healers. Yeah, that pissed me as well. Priests>Elves in magic in this game. The characters in the Non-human path are ultra-garbage save for a select handful.
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>>319855345
I have some faith, though I don't expect to replace any of my all time faves.
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>>319856764
I liked it enough to read the whole thing. I just hated that they wussed out of going full human path.

And the art sucked.

And I only had japanese raws for the last parts of it. And I can't read moonrunes
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>>319856792
Even the best light elf you got, Gil, was super squishy.
Basically you just get Ganz, that green orc, and then a filler since the previous 2 are strong enough to hold the party. I suppose you can use Rika since she has heals.
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This games soundtrack was way better than xenoblades
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>>319856704
>Ganz living and Jack going on a quest to find himself with Ganz
>Bad end

>>319856920
The soundtrack is great
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>>319856603
YES!. 6/10 gameplay with 8.5/10 story. Really comfy with a good ending
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>>319856160
I thought I was the only one who had dreams about this game.

>tfw dream about Jack and Ridley getting married and buying a nice, modern-y glassy home
>everybody's still alive and fine, Clive is somehow their neighbour watering the plants
>they grow old and have children
>wake up with tears rolling down my eyes
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>>319857050
What makes you think he's going anywhere with Ganz?

He probably just can't stand to stay in that town anymore after what happened.
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>>319856920
No need to try to stir up shit.

But yeah, its OST was amazing.
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>>319856920
Xenoblade has a horrible OST tho
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>>319856764
I wonder how the Ridley manga differed. I assume it went the Fairy path, but only like the first 3 chapters are translated and I couldn't find any raws so I guess Ill never know.
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>>319857075
Man, I'm seeing some videos, it seems all you do in combat is attack? Literally?

The art and everything else seem so good, its really a shame the combat is bad :((((((((((((
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>>319857262
it's not bad it's just easy as fuck
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>>319856850
Wasn't there two versions? Epic of Jack, and Song of Ridley?
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>>319857050
>lugs his father's sword, knowing he can never use it
>good end
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>>319857262
Yeah, the combat is easily the worst part about the game. You can give your teammates commands and do special formations, but for the most part its basically just create a combo before battle starts then use it repeatedly while throwing in strong attacks here and there that cost points.

But the rest of the game is really good. If you are willing to overlook the bland combat, its definitely worth your time for everything else.
>>319857340
Yeah. Epic of jack has a lot more of it translated but not the entire thing either. Jack's manga has more of a shojo art style while Ridley's manga's art is more shonen style.
Which is a bit confusing IMO but whatever.

I liked epic of jack, they had side characters play bigger roles in the story. Like Alicia comes with Jack to the valley of the dwarves when he goes to see the knights take it over with the other dwarf.
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>>319857262
Jack can't use magic but the combat is still passable. You can make your own combos
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>>319857403
It's a momento he doesn't need to use it.
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>>319857403
One minor thing that bugged me, really minor honestly.
But Jack can't wear the armor he has on the cover and use the arbitrator. The armor is human side only. And arbitrator is fairy side only.
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So, beleaguered hero Radiata deserves or spineless wimp?
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>>319856238
My first Human run was one of the most frustrating things I've ever experienced, because I saved right before the siege on Radiata with a shitty team
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I actually spent my time on multiple playthroughs to recruit EVERY PERSON in the game.

And wow.. this game has a amazing town... even it's the only town in the game... every person in the game has a fucking name and can be recruited. Everyone is unique.

There's really no game quite like it. I'm amazed that most gaming journalists gave a 7 when this shit deserves a 9 at least.
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Man, its so annoying that you basically can't recruit Elwen until the post game unless you grind.
Shes like 10-15 levels higher than you will be at the endgame so fighting her straight is a difficult proposition.

But shes also immune to status effects so unlike Gerald you can't cheese her with poison.

I wanted her for the final area though.
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>>319858286
Well it did have its flaws.
Like rather underwhelming combat.

Mostly underwhelming combat. Id say it deserves either a 7 or 8 depending on how much of an issue that is for the person.

But hell Id love a sequel. There really isn't any other games quite like it.
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Is there a video of what happens if you do beat Elwen in the Nonhuman path? All the ones I've seen only have what happens if Jack gets walloped, and not the other outcome as well.
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>>319858458
I thought it was wierd how many battles in the nonhuman path you are expected to lose.

You will lose to Gawain repeatedly until you whittle him down.

You will almost certainly lose to Elwen and you can lose to Gerald and still keep going.
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>>319858406
>Like rather underwhelming combat.

Depends who you fight. Most regular joes are just shitty at combat but fighting Elwen or Lenneth did pose some challenges.
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>>319858649
Im just talking about mechanically. Even though they are challenging it still mostly boils down to attack repeatedly while backing up to dodge their counter attack and to heal.
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This game was an impulse buy for me years ago. I liked it. I beat it on the non-human route. I should do the human route sometime.

>When you're done with the death wails, come inside.
>Okay...
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>>319855248
>Can't have the Divine Coat AND the Arbitrator

I'm still fucking mad.
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>>319858764
>it still mostly boils down to attack repeatedly while backing up to dodge their counter attack and to heal.

Doesn't sound different than many other action titles.
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>>319855248

>You only got into the Radiata Knights because your dad anime center: cartago tajar por el colegio was famous

that's a hell of a long name.
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>>319858972
Its like them but really really stiff. And only one option for attacking, can't change up combos without pausing to build a new one. And there aren't any evasion moves and blocking Ive found is relatively useless.
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>>319858970
Divine coat was kinda bad anyway. It had a passive heal but its defense wasn't that good compared to other armors. I think the armor you got from the last golem fight mission was better defense wise.
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>Didn't know about the Fireworks event on my Human Route
>Had Anastasia as a Party member ever since the fight with the wind dragon
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>>319859484
*Anastasia

Fuck.
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>>319859484
Man that sucks. I had Miranda because I spent most of the human path leveling her up to get Godwin to get Kain. But shes a pretty good waifu.
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>>319858615
I did look into the game script on GameFAQs, and these lines could only be seen if Jack wins:

[BATTLE]

Jack: Chief...

Elwen: So...Yours is the stronger will. ...Jack.

Jack: Yes.

Elwen: Do you remember what I said to you during the entrance examination?

Jack: True strength comes from protecting another...

Elwen: Yes. It seems that you have found that person.

Jack: ...

Elwen: You have grown strong, Jack.

Jack: ...Chief.

Elwen: Now hurry. The brigades have just reached Fire Mountain.

[Jack bows and runs off. Elwen looks after him]

Elwen: No one can escape their fate... Once again, I am unable to keep the promise made to my love...
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>>319859743
Man, fuck a sequel. I want a prequel where you play as Elwen. Seems like she saw a lot of shit

That was one thing I loved about the game. There was a lot of stuff that wasn't explained, but it just made it feel like a real world.
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>>319859743
I think its funny that if you lose she lets Jack go while saying he might be the one to save everyone.

Didn't quite work out that way, did it Elwen?
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>Once again, I am unable to keep the promise made to my love...
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Flau best girl
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>>319860014
I think she was in a similar situation as Ridley: vessel of the Gold Dragon, and a leftover from the previous world rewrite.

Would explain how she became chummy with Parsec.
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>>319848274
>that part where she gets fucking wrecked by the monster

i was laughing my ass off
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETaW248bJEA

So how about that OST?
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>>319860383
I always thought that, too. Plus she had the echo-y voice effect that you hear in the non-human ending.
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>>319860383
She would be pretty fucking old then. The game is ambiguous, sure but there seems little reason to think that shes immortal. Seems like she founded Theater Vancoor right after her love died, and people would probably notice if the leader of the warrior's guild was the same person for centuries.

But it is definitely possible. Shes mysterious for sure. But I doubt shes the old Quasar. She didn't seem too happy to see Parsec and they talked about how they used to be enemies, which would be an odd thing for the old host of Parsec's boss to say.
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>>319849469
>Hertz
>good

Yah nah
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Are there any actual good non-human party members?

I remember everyone being worthless for the most part when compared to the human side.
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>>319861045
Theres the two orcs you can recruit, and thats about it. One of them is mandatory, the other is optional.

So if you have them and Ganz, you are basically all set.
But if you plan to do post game content, you really do gotta be on the human path .
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>>319861045

There's that one Orc called J.J. I think? Also the first few fairies i think are pretty good.
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>>319861134
>>319861140
Why are the non-human members so bad.

>That arrogant light elf
>Dies like a lil bitch in bonus dungeon

I think I won a few years back by abusing the globin command that gives full HP with a single digit point spent.
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>>319852549

Fucking Cross did EVERYTHING wrong.
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>>319860651
I'm gonna look over the game script a bit more, and try to piece a chronology.

What I do remember:
>Avcoor (Elwen's weapon) was seen 100 years ago in the fairy wars
>It exists to destroy the holy sword Falvern, which Jack can find in the City of White Nights
>Its previous wielder was legendary hero Alfred
>Elwen used to be El, Alfred's follower, who inherited the sword after he died
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>>319857403

It's too bad that they didn't think to do what the manga did and have Elwen do what Gawain did and see if he's ready to use it.
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>>319861893
The fact that Elwen was Alfred's follower implies she was subordinate to him. But he was just one in a line of famous warriors, and Alicia is his daughter.

Which, unless Elwen just hid her power levels, implies that she is a human like Alfred and just managed to get super buff.
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>>319860651
>>319861893

It might have been a similar situation of the Non-human end of Radiata Stories, except Elwen never changed sides and perhaps attempted to stop the reset but failed.
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>>319862064
Elwen's race is listed as ???
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>>319862164
Id be on board with that except for one thing.

Its ambiguous about how much of the original person is left in a host body. Lucian as far as we can tell is 100% the silver dragon, but we have no idea how much Ridley is still Ridley,

But if the dragon completely takes over their human avatar, then how can Elwen be Quasar considering Quasar is now Ridley.

Also, it seems it was Aphelion who decided to oppose the cycle while Quasar still wants to continue it, which would make it unlikely that Quasar as Elwen decided to end it.

I suppose this argument comes down to how much of the host is still left when the dragon takes over.

Shit, that actually makes the fairy ending kinda creepy. What if Ridley isn't ridley at all anymore? What if shes just Quasar?
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>>319862205
Looks human to me
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>>319862568
my mistake, her race is listed as Human?

i knew it had a question mark in it.
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>>319862064
I did stumble onto something in the Radiata wiki:
http://radiata.wikia.com/wiki/Alfred_Roberts

>Alfred may have once been the vessel for either Quasar or Aphelion, as El is centuries old and when Jack and Genius discuss the cycle of the Dragons in the sewers, Genius mentions that the last time the Gold and Silver dragons reset the world was centuries ago. Adding credibility to this notion is the similarities between Elwen's speaking voice and the way Jack speaks after the nonhuman game ending; both characters speak in a distorted echo, suggesting that Elwen may have been analogous to Jack and Alfred may have been analogous to Ridley.

If this holds up, then I was off on a few points:
>Alfred was the previous vessel
>El was the remnant from the previous era that he carried over
>As the carryover, El was given immortality by Alfred
>But Alfred himself either never got immortality, or was forced to die as Aphelion awakes in Lucian (see: This girl was to serve as the gold dragon’s vessel, you see. There was nothing I could do to stop it… For I am… Aphelion, the silver dragon!)
>Elwen wielded Avcoor during the fairy wars 100 years ago
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>>319862473

Well, in the cutscene before the in the Non-human path final boss, Ridley's voice has this echo effect on it.

But in the Non-human ending, JACK has the echo effect on his voice instead while Ridley's voice is normal.

If that echo is basically saying that this person is Quasar's host, then Jack might have become the host instead somehow instead of Ridley.

If so, then it might be a similar situation with Elwen and Alfred. She was originally Quasar's host but rebelled against it and Alfred decided to become Quasar's host instead.
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>>319862473
As I admit here in >>319862796, my hypothesis about Elwen being the vessel could have been incorrect.

>how much of the host is still left when the dragon takes over
We never learn how separate Lucian the vessel could be from Aphelion, and Ridley even contemplated it (I had already decided to go and face my destiny. But, before I left... I had to know that I was still human. I needed to know that I hadn't completely lost my humanity...).

Either the death/slumber of all dragons + Jack's interference allowed Ridley to retain her self, or Tottaus is about to get the second coming of Alfred (Ridley) and Elwen (Jack).
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One thing that made me sad was that Jack's voltys all sucked. There was no reason to ever use them over other members voltys who had them.

I felt they should have done sorta what they did in valkyrie profile where they get better as the game progresses. At first its weak but by the end of the game its super stronk.

Also I thought it was kinda wierd that the human path had unique music for the final boss but the nonhuman path had the opening song for its music.
>>319863340
Im not saying my theory is correct either. Im just speculating.
Id say that anything before Ridley meets with Quasar is irrelevant because before that shes just the potential host. its not until she actually links up with Quasar that it becomes a question of whether she is herself or not. Seems she was losing herself in the human ending and Jacks voice called her back long enough to get blown away by Aphelion.

I could buy the theory about Jack basically being Elwen 2. Except I guess id have to ask what happened to Alfred that he would live for a cycle and a half just to have normal kids and die? Alicia presumably is a normal human.
Otherwise that sounds like a good explanation to me
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great game.


wish there was more epilogue with the non human end. really wanted Zane to get some comeuppance on the non human end too.
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>>319863825
Well Zane has algandars so hes eventually gonna end up stuck in a cocoon for all eternity. Thats a pretty horrible fate already.
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>>319863876
true.
but i think him being an asshole has little to do with algandars though and he needed a good deck in the jaw.
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>>319863972
Oh no, he was definitely a dick. Im just saying he eventually will get his eternal comeuppance because he is infected with Algandars. Its fatal to elves in the worst way. He can't even reincarnate
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>>319864242
yeah.

i think i mostly just want some actual epilogue for non-human ending. i get that it's supposed to be ambiguous on purpose but still.
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>>319845696
this game would have been so good if the combat system wasn't such a complete piece of shit
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>>319863638
>what happened to Alfred that he would live for a cycle and a half just to have normal kids and die? Alicia presumably is a normal human.
If Lucian the human entered the City of White Nights centuries ago to begin the era of Aphelion, there may or may not have been a change in Quasar's vessel once Quasar himself is forced to snooze. Also, any humans of this previous era of Quasar would have been wiped, thus no Alfred bloodline. Elwen's armor being centuries old may be a separate fact from Elwen's age as well (unless I missed a line where she herself was centuries old).
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>>319865352
But its explicitly said that Alicia is of Alfred's bloodline. She just doesn't have his surname because she is a woman and only men can take his title. Its why she also goes to his grave every day.
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Talking about this, I wonder if theres a full picture that the devs created that we don't have or if they jsut threw a bunch of neat concepts together without fully writing it all out. Id like to think there is a full picture to it, but I dunno
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While the combat has some complaining, I think the squad-based team is really cool. Recruiting is definitely one of the stronger aspects.

What other games has as many unique, backstoried characters that you can recruit as part of a team?
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>>319867025

First one I can think of is the Suikoden series.
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>>319861031
Can you imagine fucking Hertz though

>fucking her missionary
>you're almost cumming
>she transforms into Jarvis for whatever reason
>you cum to Jarvis's drunken pervert face
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>>319857241
The Ridley manga had a terrible art style. It did kind of follow the Fairy path, but the ending is weird and basically nothing really bad happens.
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Why the fuck didn't SE include this in one of their PS3 releases? It deserves it.
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>>319845696
>can't side with Lucian no matter what ending

Fuck the dragons, at least he was looking at for humanity

>mfw literally all he wanted was to help humanity but also exempt himself from getting killed as well, but Jack couldn't help but get his dick wet for literally-who-ridley and killed him anyway
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>>319851805
>As an outsider looking it, I had a hard time sympathizing with humanity

They've literally been fucked over every single time the universe has been reset.

Literally every time, and all the dragons know this, and lead the various races into getting humans to fuck up.
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>>319868071
I would love for a PS3/4 remaster if it fixed a few problems.

>Move the save point to outside your house
Since there is only 1 permanent save point in the game it's obnoxious as hell that you have to wait until around 1am to save the game since entering your house at an earlier time can prematurely trigger story progression.

>Allow the player to rest at the inn to pass the time
You can technically rest in your bed to fast-forward the time to 7am but that also runs the risk of triggering story progression. Being able to rest at the inn and sleep until whatever time you want would make recruiting several character a helluva lot less annoying.
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>>319868787
There is no logical reason to rest at the inn when your house is literally in the same street. I don't think there's a single RPG anywhere in which there's a town where both inn and the protagonist's own house is available to you that allows you to sleep at the inn.

It's just a tremendous violation of common sense.
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Great RPG simply because you can go around kicking people and starting fights with literally anyone.

I remember doing a non-human run a long time ago on my PS2. Does this game emulate well? This thread makes me want to go back and see the other half of the story.
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>>319869134
>I don't think there's a single RPG anywhere in which there's a town where both inn and the protagonist's own house is available to you that allows you to sleep at the inn.

Tales of Legendia, probably a bunch I can't remember.

>>319869319
>Great RPG simply because you can go around kicking people and starting fights with literally anyone.

I was a little sad kicking plot important character didn't do much but summon regular enemies.
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Game was ahead of it's time. PS2 truly had the best jrpgs and games in general.
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>>319869758
I miss ps1/ps2 era for the jrpgs. Last gen was terrible for jrpgs.
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>>319869134
Entering your house can trigger story progression, which could lock out certain potential party members until after whatever story events are finished(which can be anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours).

Since the save point is also inside your house entering it can potentially prevent you from being able to save the game unless that story segment has a temporary save point.


"Resting at the inn" was just an example of something that could give time manipulation to the player without resorting to entering your house. Anything that would speed up time would be acceptable, even a Chrono Cross style fast-forward ability.
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>protagonist is pantsu on head retarded like most JRPG main characters
>kills Silver Dragon, the ONLY dragon benevolent towards mankind just because MUH RIDLEY even though at that point she had already become an eldritch abomination with no recollection of her former self at all
>can only control protagonist in battle
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How well does this emulate? It looks pretty great.
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>>319871484

all the webms in this thread look like they are from emulation

the game also supports widescreen natively i believe
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>>319871661
And progressive scan.
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>>319846653
Based on raw stats she's one of the best, but definitely not the best based on moveset and aggressive AI. It's why everyone says Elwen is so good, because even though her stats aren't the absolute top tier her AI is aggressive as FUCK, she is full berserker mode at all times and usually staggers every enemy to death, yet still knows how to not get fucked by enemies that are too strong for that shit. Technically the strongest should be that ogre with 9999 HP and cap STR at low levels, but his AI is so dogshit he's actually shit tier., he will repeatedly run into strong enemy attacks and kill himself without ever attacking.
>>319848274
That's not Leona.
>>319855845
>>319855974
Now this is more like it.
>>319856160
Her rune magic was solid as fuck, it did very high damage, her AI was good and she was pretty smart about dodging and avoiding enemy rushes. Elwen/Leona/Miranda is a very good party comp in my experience, Miranda seems to focus more on healing than the old man so I consider her better than him, also a QT.
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Don't want best milf die, side with human every time
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>>319870057
>Chrono Cross style fast-forward ability.

A what and where the fuck was this?
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Thanks for the webms anon, pls post more if you're still around
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