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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/12/09/nintendo-and-the-surprising-success-of-the-3ds/

>While Sony and Microsoft duke it out in the gaming console wars this holiday season, here's something to think about: Nintendo's handheld device, the 3DS, to date, has still outsold both of them. Combined.

>there are people who dont own the best handheld ever made

How did the 3DS become the most successful handheld of all time and BTFO everyone?

Literally the best handheld gaming library ever with one god tier game every month and it was so successful it killed off it's competitor that has nothing but weebshit on it.

How did the 3DS win so hard?
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>>319809605
>How did the 3DS win so hard?
>Win so Hard
>lost over 50% market share compared to the DS in the same timeframe
>Win so Hard.
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> the most successful handheld of all time

Do you not remember the DS' sales being second to only the PS2?
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>the surprising success
The DS sold a shit ton, the 3DS's sales are a disappointment if anything.
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>>319809827
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/nintendo-was-this-years-best-performing-video-game-company-in-the-japanese
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>>319809605
>3ds release date February 26, 2011
>ps4 release date November 15, 2013

Give it 2.5 years and the ps4 will outsell the 3ds easily by itself. You won't even need to add the xbones sales.
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>>319810154
>in the japanese market
Wipyti wipity doo!
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>>319810316
>B-but my 30 gazillions sold PS4
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>>319810154
>best preforming in Japan

No fucking shit, people in Japan stopped caring about home consoles a long time ago, they only care about whatever they can bring with them on a train.
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>>319810575
>what is market cap.
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>>319809827
You can't compare handhelds now to handhelds back then

They didn't have to compete with everyone owning a gaming capable smartphone

Fact is the 3DS is murdering the competition on its own already
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>>319809605
>How did the 3DS become the most successful handheld of all time and BTFO everyone?
>selling less than the DS on its 4th year
>Literally the best handheld gaming library ever with one god tier game every month and it was so successful it killed off it's competitor that has nothing but weebshit on it.
>being this delusional
>implying the 3DS isn't plagued with weebshit as well
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Has anyone really been far as decided to be a midget must even go want to do look more like?
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>>319809605
idk but im still waiting on my FUCKING REGULAR BLACK NEW 3DS RELEASE IN THE US

ree
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>>319809827
smartphones weren't that big of a thing when the DS blew up 10 years ago, the fact that the 3DS has 50+ million on its own with all the competition is pretty damn good
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>>319810873
Smartphones are competing with the 3DS you retard. Otherwise the 3DS wouldn't have seen a fall in market share and units sold. Smartphones are killing the dedicated handheld device and the only reason the 3DS is alive is because it cannibalize its closer competitor. That shit will not fly with the NX since I doubt Sony will ever release a VITA 2.
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>>319809605
It's simple, the 3DS doesn't have any japanese or weeb games.

Everyone knows they are the worst garbage which is why the 3DS did so well. Everyone ignored the Vita because it's games lineup was nothing but weebshit and the 3DS is the complete opposite of that.
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>>319811084
>Smartphones are competing with the 3DS you retard
Yes?
That is what I said?

Are you retarded?
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>>319810873
>Fact is the 3DS is murdering the competition on its own already

Oh I guess all console and PC parts manufacturers will shut down the production then
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>>319811165
Then the retarded idea of "don't compare 3DS with DS" the reality is that smartphones are disrupting the handheld market and are destroying that market. The fall from the previous generation will be over 75% when both 3DS and Vita stop selling. From 230M to less than 70M. But /v/ will rather live in laland where the 3DS is the biggest success ever of the industry and then it will wonder why no one is buying a Nintendo NX.
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>>319811139
>It's simple, the 3DS doesn't have any japanese or weeb games.

It takes a special kind of retard to say this
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>>319811296
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>>319810873
>You can't compare handhelds now to handhelds back then
Yet you can compare console generations who sell more and faster with every gen. On the other hand Nintendo is losing clients and marketshare every gen. This is a fact.
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>>319811472
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/3ds-still-outselling-ds/

3ds is massively outselling the DS. It will overtake it in a few years retard
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>there are people who dont own the best handheld ever made

I own a DS though. You aren't actually implying that the 3DS is the best handheld ever made, are you? It's not that great.
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>>319811472
Your brain needs a reset or something, how are you still not getting it?
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>>319811648
>can play DS games and 3DS games
>doesn't have retarded hinge problems
>not the best

???
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>>319811648
DS is pretty garbage library wise compared to the 3DS.

3DS's library is so much better than the DS and it can play the entire DS library. It's pretty much the best handheld right now to exist.
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>>319811626
>2013 article
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>>319811829
>>319811885
Not that guy but I'll rather take DS+GBA than DS+3DS any day of the week

Also using DS library to defend the 3DS is kinda pathetic
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>>319811829
>can play DS games and 3DS games
If you have to resort to a system being able to play the games of other systems, you're admitting that the system has a poor library of its own.

>hinge problems
Only the DS phat.

>>319811885
>DS is pretty garbage library wise compared to the 3DS.
Pic related.
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>>319812107
Why would you take DS+3DS? Why not 3DS+GBA?
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>>319812180
DS lite had hinge problems too
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this thread is silly
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>>319812227
My DS lite's hinge is still perfectly fine. My phat's hinge broke, though.
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>>319811626
>2013
HAHAHA. Look at Nintendo Shipping numbers. Latest numbers are from end of Q2 (sep 30) for the 3DS. 56M shipped units. Which is 4 years and 6 months since the original release of the 3DS back in March 2011.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/index.html

Now lets check the same shipping numbers of the DS back in Jun of 2009 (4 years and half after the initial release in Jap and US)

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2009/090730e.pdf

DS numbers as to jun 2009.

101M units shipped.

Sorry anon but 101M > 55M. Sorry you were saying?
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>>319812395
DS came out in 2005 retard of course it sold more because it's been around longer.

The 3DS will get there soon enough.
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and smartphones outsold both. combined. apples to oranges.
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Just because lots of people bought it doesn't mean it's any good, or that I want it. Lots of people buy coca cola and consume it, which is literally poison.
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>>319811626
>2013

The 3DS sold stronger at launch, and people were shitposting about how it was selling faster than the DS did when the DS launched. The thing is, the DS wasn't initially intended to be the successor of the GBA and it didn't take off until Mario Kart, Brain Age, and Nintendogs.
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>>319812395
HAHAHA
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>>319812395
Didn't you read my fucking post. Both handhelds are being compared on the same timeframe in the market.

The 3DS will never reach the levels of the DS in fact it would never sell above 70M units.
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>>319809827
249$ rounded up sales cost; Nintendo makes more then either $299 or $399 next gen console combined. For the sake of time, I've deducted the exchange rate between Nintendo and retailers, since 249$ isn't really 249

Now, Nintendo has sold 15 million units of 3DS's in the US so that calculated means Nintendo has made $3,735,000,000 dollars over the course of its lifespan ( www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/06/11/nintendos-3ds-has-sold-15-million-in-the-us/)

That's nearly 4 billion dollars over a piece of refurbished plastic and entry tier hardwiring. Now let's subtract the production cost. It's 100 dollars (kotaku and various) $100 X 15 million units = a production cost of 150 million. That's a proportional profit of (3,735,000,000 X 100 / 150,000,000 = 2490%!) This is fucking huge given that 60 dollar AAA games on average rarely see more then 150% of sales and the average free mobile game makes none.

But go ahead and tell me Nintendo failed, this is basically what Nintendo makes from its mobile consoles every 6-8 years
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>>319809605
Pretty sure a DS did better.
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>>319809605
>one god tier game every month
In 2013, yeah. There hasn't been a good new game on 3DS for a fucking long time.
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>>319812579
>3DS is 4 year old by now
>even with big hits like Pokemon, MonHun and such still can't reach DS or even PSP sales

Face it man, it's not going to get there
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It's been out twice as long, so nobody's surprised.
3DS is a moderate success only.
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My 3DS is literally a pokemon and monster hunter machine
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>>319812579
The comparisons where between the same timeframe, you fucking fanboy. 3DS will never reach 75M units sold perhaps not even 70M.
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>>319812987
>4 billion dollars
>moderate success
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>>319813076
and Atlus games like SMT and EO
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>>319813097
>being this dumb and delusional

3DS will overtake 75 million in a year, it's the best selling gaming handheld in the world for a reason
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>>319809605
>there are people who dont own the best handheld ever made

That's because it broke.

Wanna know what broke it?

My Vita.

Fuck Nintendo.
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>>319813097
It doesn't have to. Smartphones are too big now.

No handheld will ever again reach those incredibly high numbers.

Doesn't mean 3DS isn't a huge success given the smartphones existing so commonly now.
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>>319813141
What 4B dollars?

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2012/120426e.pdf
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140507e.pdf
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150507e.pdf

Please point them out because I hardly think Nintendo made that much since the release of the 3DS If anything the 3DS and Wii U costed Nintendo almost 700M until they could find a better price balance
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>>319813346
Should we screencap this post for future reference?
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>>319813424
>It doesn't have to.
No, it just simply can't.
It certainly would have been useful though.
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>>319812107
GBA isn't a good system.
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>>319813567
Compared to DS and 3DS is is.
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>>319813346
>Nintendo fanboys are this delusional
Want me to point out the Data that clearly shows that the 3DS may never reach 70M units? Because the downward trend of the 3DS ww is pretty clear and it will never reach the high of even the worse selling Nintendo handheld.
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3ds is still too expensive where i live

so no 3ds for me. i'm still playing DS jrpgs.
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>>319813567
It's miles better than the 3DS at least
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>>319813862
I don't get how they keep the console overpriced.
It was cheaper to get a Vita at this point so I got that.

I guess people who just want pokemon still buy Nintendo, but most people aren't going to care.
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>>319813385
>Vita

so much potential wasted
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>>319812748

this math

this fucking math
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>>319814290
So much more games played.
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Meanwhile, Nintendo is getting their ass kicked by this.
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>>319809827
It lost it to smartphones, not to other videogame devices.
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>>319813981
Eh, depends on where you live. The reason it's expensive as fuck here is import taxes + taxes on electronics + the economy is shit right now. So, let's pretend a 3ds is 300 dollars, I have no idea what the price really is.

If it's 300 dollars, it'd cost 1200 monkey money, then add 100% of its cost for the import tax and up to 400% because of the electronics tax.
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>>319814789
To be fair, so is everyone else. The sales numbers of this generation are fucking miniscule compared to previous generations because of the rise of smartphones and tablets replacing the need for a video game console
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>>319815649
219€ for 3DS.

169€ for Vita
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>>319815870
PS4 is still outpacing the PS2 in sales, breh.

Try again.
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>>319809605
They managed to secure some sweet SMT games that's how

>HACK YOU
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>>319815973
>mfw best Vita (i mean old version) is 120$ in my country
>Nobody buys it anyway
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>>319815870
Dude you are retarded, the PS4 is outpacing the PS2 easily.
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>>319816592
>Could pick up a pre-owned Vita plus games for around 180 dollarydoos.
>Consider doing it.
>Look at memory card prices.
>Change my mind.
Every fucking time.
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