>Oblivion is a decade old next year.
Where'd your life go anon?
You need be over 18 to post on this site.
>tfw playing games which are older than the average /v/ poster
Feels old man.
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/pc/filtered?year_selected=2006
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>>319798823
>2 dudebro in the top 5
>LEGO in the top 10
That list is junk.
>>319798996
Nah man, just sit back and let nostalgia flow.
2004, 2006 and 2007 were the best years of PC gaming
>>319799274
If you go back by half a decade you might be right.
>tfw they'll never make another city-oriented TES game again
all that dungeon draugr shit in skyrim was so boring
>>319799365
Go to sleep, grandpa.
>>319798823
I wouldn't rate vanilla oblivion that high, but modded oblivion is probably one of the most fun gaming experiences I've had and the best in the series I'm.
>OOO
>MMM
>live another life (main quest turned off)
>No psychic guards
>NPC mods so there's loads more travelling/adventuring
>loads of other smaller gameplay related mods
>It's combat is still garbo
>>319799384
It did get pretty repetitive. I felt that the villages and population of Oblivion were better because there was more but the depth of the people of Skyrim was better.
Oblivion definitely felt more alive
>>319798823
Not as great as '05 and '07
>>319799987
>implying I play tes4 for combat and not the comfy high fantasy cheese eating and wine swilling in yon tavern
>>319798015
BUMP
MAPPING
>>319799987
Its*
>>319798015
I thought it was like 12 years old by now.
>>319799987
>>319800208
Is there even a game with great combat?DaS bores me a lot.
>>319799719
Totally. Modded Oblivion is probably my most played game. Now I've lost my old copy and I've just seen that it's £20 on Steam, which is outrageous
I wish there was a modpack for oblivion or something, but doesn't introduce a shit ton of clunky elements
Oh it shows.
>>319798561
Thorn best fightan bot
>>319799987
The combat's actually not bad if you're trying to get some first person beat em up gameplay out of it.
>>319799719
>OOO
>MMM
>>319799719
OOO is garbage though. Made the game awful to play.
>>319803718
>opinions
>>319798015
Here anon. Where else could it have gone?
>>319800560
>DaS bores me a lot.
How's that?
>>319803936
>lockbashing alerts ever loaded enemy of your exact location
>can't find normal versions of armor, only 'worn' versions.
>annoying ghosts with dremora voice in every undead dungeon that take forever to kill unless you spam weakness to shock + magic 100% and a shock spell as a follow up. There are 10+ of them all the time.
Yes, it is so fun. Totally.
>>319799274
>not 1994
>system shock
>warcraft
>wing commander 3
>xcom
>tie fighter
>doom II
>marathon(mac counts)
Best year. 1998 close second.
>>319798015
Does anyone else feel that games really haven't progressed much in the last 10 years but before that they progressed loads?
Comparing oblivion to modern games and there's not that much of a technological jump.
But compare oblivion to a game from 10 years before it and the jump is huge.
>>319805086
>Because loudly bashing a lock when there's enemies around makes total fucking sense
>Search harder & repair
>What are silver weapons
Pick your battles, ooo doesn't hold your hand
God forbid you have to think while playing a game.
>>319798015
Damn...
>>319799719
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>>319805974
That's because the industry is mostly advanced and shaped enough since its creation.
I mean:
>then
Ambient Occlusion on/off
Post Processing on/off
Scripted physics
Pre-rendered cutscenes
>now
Ambient Occlusion: High/Low
Post Processing on/off
Physics based rendering
Realtime cutscenes
And so on. My point is, we went from exploring new ideas, to improving them.
>>319805974
I've felt this way for a long time, family.
>>319805991
>enemies are nearby.
The only have to be loaded. Having to kill every single enemy that is loaded in border to bash a lock is retarded.
>Search harder and repair
Search? Killing bandits/marauaders for 16 hours to find a single pieceo of non-garbage armor you mean.
>Silver
Doesn't help at all.
Go home Oscuro.
>>319805974
Huge companies have held gaming back. It fucking sucks.
>>319806298
The last two points are wrong, scripted physics happens more now than it did in the early to mid 2000s and cutscenes have always been either or, it's still either pre-rendered or using cutscene specific lighting.
>>319804713
No animation cancelling, ludicrous animations locking the character into stupid situations, minimal "combo" system, awful spells, uninspired mobs, hallway design forcing the character into a corner instead of actually challenging gameplay, no interesting story, no crafting, no economy, etc.
Make way for the best Oblivion mod.
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34199/?
>>319807024
What have they held gaming back from?
>>319807295
Good physics, graphics, art, pay models, etc.
>>319807287
yeah no
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28979/?
>>319807194
I strongly disagree with several of those.
>>319807295
Being ambitious.
Now it's just: fetch this! Follow me! Go to this waypoint! Shoot some shit!
>>319805974
Consoles are holding technological advancements in chains.
Consoles are also keeping depth and complexity from games since everything has to be played on a controller, and things cant be too deep or the peanut-sized brain of an average plebian gets overwhelmed.
>>319807785
Almost a compelling argument, there.
>>319807194
>no crafting
It has one of the best crafting systems we've seen in the past decade in that you actually have to think about what you want.
>>319807861
It's not so much consoles but publishers who own most of the talented developers.
Take a look at how everyone is sperging over how good Battlefront looks, then take a look at a modded Crysis 1. The gap is so fucking small between the games yet it took almost a decade for another game to step up to that level. Crysis 2 and 3 were mysteriously shitty games technologically and this isn't a coincidence. EA was involved in all of these games and they'll hold back gaming just so they can sell it later on.
why is installing mods for oblivion so fucking awkward
>>319808586
It isn't, all you have to do is read the readme.
And I still haven't beaten past like the 3rd main quest, it doesn't hep that I already know that its shitty
The good quests are great but they still don't make for the shitty leveling, and there's probably never going to be a decent mod to fix that
>>319805974
My main concern is that they have evolved a lot graphicaly but there is not that much innovation in gameplay and interaction, just take a look at Far Cry Primal, its the kind of game that would look very promising if you're younger or a kid, but you know its gonna be 3 buttons to do everything and scripted events everywhere that is going to get old pretty quickly
>>319807845
>Ambitious.
How?
In what ways can they be ambitious?
>>319808653
doesn't mean it's not awkward, all you have to do is read the readme for half the GTA mods out there but it's still awkward.
>>319798015
not playing such shitty games
>>319809398
*plays dota 2*
>>319809285
GTA is awkward because you rely on middleware tools to get shit in-game. Oblivion is drag and drop modding.
>>319809204
Not him but compare BF3 to BF EA edition.
Why does Oblivion look better than Fallout 4? Can someone explain this?
>>319809673
Fallout 4 has a really shitty art style.
>>319809551
why are you doing this to yourself? first Oblivion and now this
It feels like a lifetime ago, mang. Stop being a sentimental faggot going "hurr wer da time went dohh."
>>319799719
how do i into modded oblivion without crashing every 10 minutes and having my saves corrupt every session?
Wallowing in my poverty and misery.
I'm mad at myself because I always played it the same way. I'd beeline right to the Arena as soon as I could, it always seemed like such a good thing to do at the start. I'd love to play it again, but I don't know heads or tails about modding and the games flaws are keeping me from replaying.
Got the game installed and ready. Just adding the finishing touches to a custom mod then I'm divin' in.
>>319800560
Mount & Blade Warband
Most of that shit you said was retarded opinions though, or game design choices. Getting locked into animations is valid, often large powerful weapons have long animations, while low damage fast attack weapons have fast animations; it's a tradeoff between waiting to land a perfect huge damage strike at a time when the enemy is most vulnerable (and run the risk of being punished for poor timing) or use a fast low damage weapon that leaves you nimble but means the fight will likely take longer and require more concentration.
>>319810056
He probably can't help it.
Do you know how many old, sentimental goofballs raise their kids going "dawww, it seems like only yesterday when you were in diapers"?
They spend a lot of time whining about how fast time went for them too.
>>319809869
I agree but what direction can they take on a realistic (graphically not mechanically) post-apocalyptic scenario other than dead colors?
>>319799384
This applies to fallout 4 as well. I felt the lack of any sizable settlements really killed it.
>>319810865
Better models and textures, especially models. Metro looks fantastic as an example and that's in the same sort of environment. Even Stalker is a better looking game pretty much.
I have no idea where you got dead colors from though, Fallout 4 is full of vibrant colors.
>>319811195
That looks like shit.
Too much brown.
>Xbox 360 is 10 years old
>>319808186
>upgrading with limited resources is compelling crafting
Ordinarily, that's referring to actual gear crafting. Finding great items through a decent portion of the game can become ambiguous unless checking a guide.
>>319810503
>Getting locked into animations is valid, often large powerful weapons have long animations, while low damage fast attack weapons have fast animations; it's a tradeoff between waiting to land a perfect huge damage strike at a time when the enemy is most vulnerable (and run the risk of being punished for poor timing) or use a fast low damage weapon that leaves you nimble but means the fight will likely take longer and require more concentration
>that post-purchase rationalization
Protip: unengaging combat is unnecessary. It's a shallow implementation instead of anything more, like even dropping/tossing the item to get out of hazard. Yet, the possibility is as simple as allowing cancelling through half the animation.
It's just another "purposefully awful" design. There's also very little option for creativity, so playing becomes repetitive and boring.
>>319811367
this, where's the blue trees, green sand and silver dirt?
sh*t game
>90% of /v/ is 10 years old
>>319798823
>http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/pc/filtered?year_selected=2006
Man what a SHIT year for videog-
>see Guild Wars Factions and Nightfall
hold me. I wasted so much of my middle school childhood on those games. Fuck GW2 so hard :'(
>>319811741
more like 8, but why are you surprised?
>>319811601
>blue trees
Maybe this is actually why Xenoblade X looks like a way better game.
>>319811772
>9 years ago
>middle school
Get the fuck out of here you cancer.
>>319811589
You have to choose which item you want each soul to craft and you only have one.
You have to get the soul, sometimes it's an optional boss you might not want to kill.
You have a finite amount of materials.
etc
It's a good system you turd.
>>319798561
I will never know this game beyond its shareware version, despite thousands of hours of my youth spent on it.
>>319812035
He would be 22 at most now, you dunce
>>319812537
Middle school can start from age 7 in some countries.
>>319812616
Yes? Okay.
>>319812786
Then, I assume you know 1st grade math.
>>319798331
you should leave this board if you're over 40
>>319798331
wizzardchan awaits you
>>319813046
Never, I'm only 26.
That's some nice water.
>>319812084
Having to pick a single play option improves gameplay absolutely none.
Enjoy.
>>319798015
I still play it a lot, it's great with an Indiana Jones build.
>My character is just in search of secret shit and learning about ancient shit and shit.
>Going to Book Stores and reading books about the Ayleids and their space rocks.
Oblivion stories?
>Get up at 5:00am to have 4 hours on Oblivion before school
> Reaching every level and actually being excited to see if all the armor and weapons would scale up because I hadn't seen all the styles
> Going to the testinghall and outfitting myself with Full Daedric then spending days figuring out how to get out of Crowhaven
> Reading the prima strategy guide because it was my bible
I must of been 14-15 when it came out; didn;t know how to install mods at all...we had to get a computer doctor around to show us how to paste data files lol; now I do that shit on the fly. Still wont help me get Morrowind running on my mac though :(
>>319809673
it doesn't
>>319799384
To be fair, all the TES games do that, but it's what else they do to counteract the boredom that brings that sets them apart.
Skyrim tries to offset it with different scales of layouts, as per the usual, but with its better looks, it's a bit more effective at first. Emphasis on at first. But to be fair it's not hard to tell one dungeon from another if you don't just stare at a 3 square-foot texture. It's like what oblivion did, but with updated graphics and mildly better VA work.
Oblivion, like Skyrim did later, made layouts and content different to compensate for a lack of varying textures. It works pretty well, Vilverin feels different from miscarand, the imperial catacombs feel different from Mannimarcos headquarter caves. It works well enough.
Morrowind, it being when almost all of the only people who played RPG's did so voraciously, was able to use a very fleshed out lore and backstory to use not as a background to accompany gameplay, but as the support of most of the quests, main or secondary. Because of limited tech, portrayal had to be verbal at times, putting more focus on developing that feature. So it was the shit. With Todd and MK in their prime, and the old PnP nerds who created the series working on it, it was amazing. And it being ridiculously hard to beat unless you grind for 15 levels or cheat was pretty great too, nothing has been more satisfying than beating Dagoth ur for the first time with cleverness, planning, and stubborn retrying. Shit was cash. And even less texture variety existed back then. Now it's easy to look back and forgive limitations of the time, but still. Skyrim was my first TES game, and morrowind will always be the best. Oblivion is good too.
>>319798015
>remember being excited and watching Oblivion trailers at my first job
I basically fucked everything up and wasted time. Frustrating to start back at square one, but 'live and learn' I suppose.
Might reinstall Oblivion and get a bunch of mods. Thanks for the reminder OP.
>>319798015
>Oblivion's water is better than Skyrim's
>>319814529
idk about that. oblivion water looks like shit. it also ripples like its jello
>>319813887
>screenshots UESP took 10 years ago on a toaster while playing on low settings
>>319798015
>Skyrim will be 5 years old next year
Fuck man.
>>319815082
lol no, this isn't a low settings screenshot. this is a high settings bullshot from right before release. vanilla oblivion is really ugly.
>>319813887
Kinda does 2bh
>>319815403
>high settings
>1280x720
Console plebians, ladies and gentlemen
>>319809869
is that shivering isles with a texture overhaul or somethin
When Oblivion was released, my brother used to insert objects up my butt while watching scat porn.
I rolled high elf.
>>319799384
>all that dungeon draugr shit in skyrim was so boring
There is also the dwarvish ruins. It wasn't all the same. Just mostly the same.
>You will never experience modding Oblivion before modding tools were available
>Will never experience the great success after getting everything working perfectlyand uninstalling a week later
>>319816183
But did you go full stealth archer?
>>319817419
what do you mean?I do that all the time
>>319798015
>The beginning of the end was 10 years ago.
It sucks anon.
>>319798823
>wew lad
Is this some new epic dank meme?
>>319815654
Well Oblivion was designed with them in mind.
>>319805974
Graphics are the only thing that has improved. Everything else, from gameplay to writing, has regressed.
>>319815403
Jesus christ, every time I see those fucking faces I remember why I didn't like that game.
This was the game I remember everyone saying had the absolute best graphics at the time, and for the most part, when I was just off adventuring, bashing skelletons or whatever, I actually got pretty into it. And it was. It was pretty as fuck.
And then absolutely any fucking npc in the whole entire game would turn around and look at me, or have one of those inane conversations with one another, and it would all just come crashing down again.
Every single time.
How hard is it to make a cute oblivion character?
>>319809869
is it that stump in seyda neen lol?
>>319819216
impossible without mods
>>319819268
How about with mods?
Look look, real shit
>Natural weather
>Natural Water
>Somo other natural variants
>Darnified UI
>Midas Magic overhaul
I have those installed and just did knights of the nine
Best game in a while
>>319820587
possible with mods
>>319820587
pretty simple
>>319820913
>Natural weather
>Natural Water
all natural and obge actually
Why are cities so small?
Why 70% of the population are bandits?
Why the blades act like cunts?
Why quest lines are so short?
Why add romantic undertones with a character that is not marriageable?
>>319811195
Models and textures is graphical fidelity not art style.
>>319799510
Oh hell yeah! I still have that installed on my machine.
>>319808586
its literally drag and drop? Like it couldnt be easier
>>319821794
lol
