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Rom the vacuous spider did LITERALLY nothing wrong!
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Rom the vacuous spider did LITERALLY nothing wrong!
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>tfw still stuck on Cleric Beast

I don't know what's wrong with me, I played this game first at Uni like 5 months ago and got pretty far before giving it back to my mate. But I bought a copy for myself now, but everyday after I come home from work I keep going to take down Cleric Beast, and I just keep dying. I've died to him like 40 times.
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>>319738067
git gud
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>>319737831
What is this?
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>>319738067
Play it on a day off. I can't play challenging games after a shift, my brain's too dull.
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>>319738067
acquire skill
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>>319738067
Just skip him
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>>319738067
Dodge spam into his asshole. All he can do from back there is ineffectively sideswipe you for negligible damage and it doesn't even stagger you.
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>>319738212
New Lovecraft novel.
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>>319738067
cleric beast is completely optional
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>>319738212
Censorship
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>>319738067
Maybe it's time to put the gamepad down and stop playing forever. I hate the git gud meme but if you fail to adapt in over 40 attempts than something is clearly wrong with your brain.
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>>319737831
ALIEN GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
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>>319737831
Almost all of the things you kill didn't do anything wrong. A lot are just people that got fucked up by a disease that the healing church caused.
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>>319738443
Not him, but I died to Taurus Demon 108 times, then I got him and breezed through the rest of the game fine. Sometimes it's just gotta click and you're on your way
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>>319738443
that's not entirely fair. it took me around 50 attempts to beat 2cat in ds2 solo

that said, cleric beast isn't that hard.
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>>319738571
you died to a boss that can be beat the same method as the tutorial boss?
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>>319738571
>I died to Taurus Demon 108 times
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>>319738624
He kept catching me before the ladder and knocking me off the wall. Every time without fail, thought my game was glitched or something.
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>>319738567
Rom in particular is preventing the Nightmares of the great ones from blending into the real world
All that shit that goes down in Yahar'gul is because you kill Rom
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>>319738571
>still playing the game after dying to it that many times and not rage quitting

nigga are you the buddha?
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>>319738734
And you kept trying that same tactic 107 additional times even though it didn't work?

You're also one of the people who can't adapt, just like OP. You just got lucky eventually.
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>>319738442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DndzwvJe54I
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>Vacuous sounds like a cool word
>Google
>Rom The Dumb Spider
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>>319738904
Nah I mixed it up as well, it was just whenever I got in close to deal something, it knocked me off.
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>>319738827
buddha would flip his shit after 3 deaths
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>>319738932
New to English?
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>>319738932
He's vacant and takes the nightmare into himself to keep it from fucking up the real world.
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>People seriously think the Cleric Beast is hard

I just don't get it. I mean, it is difficult if you've never played a souls game before, but I beat it on my 3rd try.
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The spider minions that fall from the sky and Rom herself almost gave me a new fear of spiders
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>>319738975
buddha wouldn't waste his time with video games
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>>319739093
I never played a souls game and beat it on my third aswell.
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>>319739090
>him
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>>319739303
You don't know what Rom identifies as, shitlord.
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>>319739251
>>319739093
I played all the souls games and beat it on my 3rd try

please give me a fucking medal
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>>319739352
Mizyaki says Rom is a girl
i'm srs
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>>319739093
i beat it on my first.

it's not hard, it's just fast as fuck.
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>>319738067
>stuck on Cleric Beast
>died like 40 times
lmao

And here I was feeling like a shitter because Ludwig has fucked my asshole about that many times on NG+

Do yourself a favor and never buy the DLC.
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>>319739416
Some jap dude can't just CHOOSE the gender of a giant eldritch spider thing living on an endless lake in some other dimension. I'm triggered rn baka.
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>>319739093
I never played a souls game and I beat it without a single try.

git gud faggot cuz im 2gud4u
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I just dont like Rom.

And its not just because I cant git gud at him. I mean what the fuck. it's Freja only both him and the little spiders can one shot you this time.

unless you are an arcane build with the firesprayer, this boss is almost impossible
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>>319739474
Even if he's the director of the game?
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>>319739521
I beat her today on my first try using the Threaded Cane.
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>>319739521
>unless you are an arcane build with the firesprayer, this boss is almost impossible

Okay family, it's true that Rom is a badly designed boss but please baka
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>>319739521
>Beat him first try with the Kirkhammer
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Are there any repercussions for killing the fat guy that points at the ledge that you drop off to find Rom?
Because I killed him.
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>>319739613
Try beating cursed amygdala or cursed watchdog and tell me Rom is impossible.
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>>319739521
I found that if the baby spiders are giving you problems, kill them one by one.
Rom doesn't spawn any until after she teleports twice.
Buff yourself before going at her when the baby spiders are gone
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>>319739713
no, it's better to kill him for the rune
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>fighting Logarius Gwyn without parrying and instead using shield

this shit is hard senpai
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>>319739713
No.
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>>319739729
I beat Amy in the Chalice Dungeon, but for the life of me cannot beat Loran Darkbeast.
I just want a third blood rock
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>>319739521
I beat Rom on like my second try with a melee build

git gud

His shit is easy as fuck to dodge and you have literally infinite space. He's only moderately challenging when you fight him in chalice dungeons.
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>>319739792
What happens if kill the Doll
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>>319740016
nothing, you can still level up
and she'll be back up when you come back to the dream next time
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>>319739093
I felt really cheated by some of the bosses in that game.

Paarl, Amelia, Witches, and Shadow were all huge push overs.
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So i just picked up bloodborne on black friday and am slogging through it, only boss that really gave me grief was rom, which took about 5 tries but otherwise i killed most bosses on the first try. I just got to Nightmare Frontier and i'm feeling pretty burned out on the game, Do i keep progressing? it could be that i just stuck with the hunters axe and kept upgrading it instead of getting something new cause i liked the way it handled.

TLDR: not finding the game difficult but its losing its appeal to me at nightmare frontier, does it get better?
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>>319738973

Only about 15% of the bridge where you fight Taurus is even possible to fall off, and he is a lot more likely to kill himself on it than you are to get knocked off.

I think you're making shit up because I honestly don't believe anyone is so shitty that they would die to Taurus 108 times. Even starting as a thief and using that shitty shield you would be able to R1 spam to victory if you even barely attempt to avoid the attacks.
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>>319740490
you havent met the harder bosses yet
but if you dont like it so far, i doubt you will like it later either
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>>319740490
>hunters axe

And just play the fucking game you idiot. Or don't. I will never understand retards like you.
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>>319740718
i mostly put points in str endurance and hp so i cant really try the newer weapons, is it worth now dumping hella expensive levels into skill or arcane? and are the newer weapons more enjoyable than hunters axe?

thanks for the reply my nigga.
I really like the atmosphere but i guess its just frustrating when some bullshit kills you and you lose like 60k souls.
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>>319739453
>bought the GOTY Edition
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>>319740732
But hunters axe literally seems op so far?
like i should probably try other weapons but so far this shit seems broken as fuck. Crazy mob control and insane damage.
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>>319737831
Other than being a cunt who spams projectiles at you while hiding behind her army
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>>319740490
well, hunter's axe is probably the easiest weapon to use. but if the bosses have been easy so far, i wouldn't imagine the later, harder ones would be too much harder. you gotta know that in games like these leveling is the difficulty slider. you level up to use equipment or to make something easier.
what level are you and what did you put stats in?
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>>319740847
there are some really fun str weapons in the dlc
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>>319740490
>I bought the game
>Should i just stop playing it?

I can't believe retards like you exist. If you don't like it fucking don't play it, retard, instead of asking other people
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>>319740930
Get the Pizza Cutter.
My main was the axe before I found it. It's so much more fun using it
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>>319740960
>The bosses later in the game

He's at nightmare mensis which means there are only 3 bosses left along the main path of the game
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>>319738067
i killed him my first try the first time i played Bloodborne git gud
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>>319740930
>But hunters axe literally seems op so far?
Exactly. It's the shitter weapon.
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>>319740930
>pick an op weapon and breeze through the game
>"guys i'm bored!"
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>>319741087
he also probably hasnt done the ayy lmao bosses or logarius
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>>319740997
Damn dude no need to be so buttblasted, Its literally a board for discussing games. Sorry you don't have disposable income to buy shit that looks neat.
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>>319739990
Can't you can stagger chalice Rom when he tries to teleport for an easy fight ?
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>>319740876
You're straight fucked anon. There's even a harder version of Cleric Beast in the DLC that spews fire out of its asshole.
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>>319738067
Get the axe, hug his ass and spin2win.
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>>319741136
>>319741112
Didn't realize that, went into the game blind so i wouldn't get anything spoiled.
From what i hear theres some lightning mace that's pretty fun, is that OP as well?
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>>319741159
He has a point.
If that anon doesn't enjoy the game, he should drop it.
No point in forcing yourself to enjoy something
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>>319738571
My first time playing DS I died to Taurus like 3 or 4 times because I just assumed I wouldn't have been able to block his attacks. I beat him by fat rolling out of his swings. That was me being legit retarded, but I can't imagine what's going through your head that you do the same thing 100+ times.
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>>319741196
That sounds familiar. Chalice Rom isn't hard, he's just marginally more annoying because you have less room to deal with all the babby spiders.
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>>319741285
No.

Axe is really the only babby weapon.
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>>319741473
Not that guy, and I have never used the axe, but I always thought LHB was the most OP weapon from what people say.
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>>319741473
well fuck, i got like 30 points in str 31 in hp 29 in agi and rest under 10,
Any other weapons that work with those stats?
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>>319741473
Ludwig is the most babby weapon of them all.

It's also ridiculously overpowered.

However, Blades of Mercy and Chikage combo will never be beaten.
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Which Bosses took you the longest? Just killed Logarius and the Enboss on first try but took 5 times for the Nurse
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>>319741554
>30 str
>29 skill

:)
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>>319741554
>29 endurance
You wasted 9 points anon.
And the other weapons need more than 10 to be used.
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>>319740847
You might like Ludwig's sword, the one that turns into a greatsword. Very satisfying moveset and has pretty good strength scaling. You can probably use the cannon if you want, too, it requires 30 strength and is a QS chugging fiend, but it's really satisfying. Most people on /bbg/ seem to recommend 50/25 for offensive stats.

This is your first character though, it really doesn't matter that much, you should just experiment. Dick around pvping in Nightmare Frontier, see how other people fight and if any of their styles interest you.
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>>319741671
30:STR
31:HP
29:AGI
9:Skill
8:Arcane
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>>319741651
Blood-Starved Beast so far. I only just killed Rom earlier. BSB wasn't that hard when I stopped locking on to him.
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>>319741651
how do you even die on wet nurse
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>>319741554
You really don't need more than 25 endurance and a lot of people will scoff at even 20. Higher level PvP is over in only a few swings usually because of how much damage everyone can put out due to gems. I think most minmaxers would recommend 15, or even base endurance, especially since there's a rune that gives you 10-20% more stamina.
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>>319741903
What if you only play PvE?
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>>319739093
If you're a shield baby he's a rude awakening. At least be was for me.
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>>319739521

This has to be bait. Rom is unironically one of the easiest bosses in the whole game.
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>>319741946
If you're only PvEing you can kind of just do whatever the fuck you want. But even if it's only PvE I can't imagine needing 30 endurance, that's gotta be like 15 swings on a single bar or 20 dashes or something. You'd probably be better off investing in damage stats, and that comes down to what weapon you want to use.
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Also thanks guys,
Gonna probably stick to playing the game out, kind of choked i spent all those points on agi when i didn't have to but i guess thats how it is with first char.
Any advice for nightmare frontier?
last time i tried i got to the goblin throwing boulders and died to him.
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>>319742091
Is it worth putting points into strength if you're using a trick weapon? After you hit the skill hardcaps that is.
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>>319742102
run past them desu
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>>319742102
They're really weak up close and kind of just let you circle strafe and buttfuck them.
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>play BB for a couple hours
>think "you know what? I kind of wonder how another Souls games feels while I'm in the Bloodborne Zone"
>switch to PS3
>DaS2 is dl'd to hdd, DeS/DaS1 all the way over on my shelf
>too far for any man to travel
>Fuck it, DaS2 it is
>Make new character, because I haven't played it in almost a year
>decide I'm going to try playing as much in the BB mindset as possible
>No shield, light armor, focus on mobility and aggressively attack enemies from the back and sides
>Playing Dex Swordsman
>actually doing fairly well
>don't bother leveling up, just grab estus and run on over to Heide's
>giant knights are piss easy
>get to mace knight
>this fucking overhead tracking is fucking stupid
>get to Greatsword Knight
>THIS FUCKING OVERHEAD TRACKING IS BULLSHIT
>scimitar breaks on my sixth knight

Okay, yeah. Dark Souls 2 is shit, and it's because the durability is literally artificial difficulty. The enemy movesets aren't actually difficult to avoid (when they don't turbotrack your ass up until the last nanosecond) so the only way they can keep you from rushing ahead too fast is to arbitrarily break your shit if you're not doing their intended damage output.

I really hope the people who implemented the weapon durability and general hit tracking in DaS2 are demoted to grabbing the coffee and passing out memos for DaS3. That shit is just unacceptable, it doesn't matter which Souls you compare it to.
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>>319741946
I pumped stamina for my pve guy. It's fine.
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>>319741651
Ludwig.

I still keep a grudge.

Learned his entire first form moveset by heart, literally could get the guy to his second stage without getting hit once.

Then the second stage fucked me over.
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>>319742165
well it depends on the weapon and what the scaling is, if your scaling at +9/+10 is going to be A/B for str/skl you oughta do 50/25 and vice versa. If the scaling is the same for both it just depends on what kind of build you're doing and if there are any other weapons you plan on using.
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>>319741516
>>319741605
Ludwig is the most powerful statistically. But it doesn't have the spin2win and ridiculous range that the axe's moveset does.
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>>319741949
Shields are fine, but not if they engender passivity.
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>>319738067
Go to bed, britbong
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>>319742394
second phase is much easier though
and when he does that big attack, it's basically over because it takes him forever and you can just smack his ass
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>>319742394
I found his second stage much easier.I just decided to hug his ass and most of the magic shit just misses you.
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>>319739521
Well Id hardly go THAT far. Its definitely doable.
I find the best option is just rush him with either the tonitrus or lightning paper and just pile on as much damage as you can. Just ignore the spiders. Well all the spiders after the first set. You should kill all the first spiders because Rom won't do anything until you damage him enough so you can easily kill the first set of spiders.
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>>319742102
>how it is with first char.

Your second character will feel more rewarding since you'll be able to get through the game much quicker and at a lower level. But you should have a build planned out if you plan on pvping. If you have the DLC arcane builds are crazy fun cuz of a specific rune and weapon you can get. Bloodtinge builds look fun too cuz you can just shoot a nigga down cuz your poke is real shit and do some anime bullshit with a katana.

Reddit recommends the meta is lv150 but 98 and 120 I think are more reasonable because builds are actually defined with strengths and weaknesses at those levels; at 150 everyone's kind of the same without any notable flaws, like DaS2's abysmal pvp scene.
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>>319739521
The spider's jump attack has a huge tell and is incredibly easy to dodge. You just have to actually pay attention to them as well as the boss. Freja you could just swing them all down and then go kill her. Rom's minions won't peel too far away from Rom and their heads are very resistant to damage, so you have to isolate them into 1s and 2s.

You know, you have to actually go into a massively outnumbered fight treating it like it's a fight where you're massively outnumbered. I can see how some people fail to adapt to this.
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>>319742562
>>319742574
I know his second stage is easier, but on ng+4 a combo just insta kills you so it's wasn't an option for me to take any hits.
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>>319742938
dodge behind him, not away from him
only way you get comboed is if you try to back away or stay in front of him
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What's a fun first playthrough build? Don't want something stupid op, but don't want to go in full blind since that wasted a shitton of time in das2.

Just fun, survivable, preferably allows for more than one single weapon or so.
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>>319742384
>>319742429
I decided to main the threaded cane and I was planning on going to 50 skill, 40 end, and dumping any extras into vit.
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>>319743017
I killed him already but it was just a pain in the ass.

I'm stuck on Kos now, I've basically given up.
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>>319743140
dawg you really don't need 40 end, it's not like dark souls, there's no carry weight
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>>319743098
I fucking don't have a bad thing to say about the Hunter's axe, people bitch that it's OP, but its moveset is so varied it's just too much fun.
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>>319743152
try fighting him in the water
the lightinging wont hit you if you run to the entrance
he can be parried/backstabbed
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>>319743223
I know, but I read the stamina increases cap out at 40. And since there really isn't anything else to put points into...
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>>319743140
Prioritize vit over end, especially with the cane because it's not stamina hungry even by BB standards
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>>319743098
If you know what you're doing Blades of Mercy and Threaded Cane are really fun.
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>>319738067
How much vitality do you have? Raise your health before any other stat. Makes the early game way easier
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>>319743098
My first playthrough I just put in enough points to try out different weapons that looked cool, focusing on strength and skill. I put most of my points into Vit and a handful into endurance; most of my damage came from gems and upgrades that I got from dicking around in chalice dungeons. You're not going to know what weapons you like until you use them or have them used against you.

It's your first guy, you shouldn't really expect to be able to min/max him at all.

>>319743236
It's not op, it's just very, very good in PvE, but all the saw weapons are as well. If you want a hard time try the cane.
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>>319743098
Most first playthroughs people just focus on strength or skill. Ignore bloodtinge, don't level endurance past 20, and only level arcane if there's an item you want to use it for. Hunter's Axe is a little OP but it's the most fun of the starting weapons with the largest moveset. But you should try out whatever you find lying around.
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>>319743269
You put the rest of your points into your secondary scaling stat, goofball. 25 Endurance is way more than enough, and personally I don't think you need more than 20 unless you have a very specific play style. Do what the other guy said, put points into vit early on, you can't go wrong with that. Every build is going to have like 40 vit at some point anyway. When you decide what weapon you really like you can start investing points into it's damage stats. Until then the game throws upgrade materials at you once you get a decent amount of time into it.
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Ya'll new niggas should just go to the buttborne general, they're usually good about not spoiling things if you say you're new and you can just ignore most of the posts if you're worried about spoilers and only focus on people talking about builds or their replies to you.
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>>319743269
Weapons that have C scaling in strength and E scaling in skill still benefit from points in skill.
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>>319739474
the japanese decide who's gay and who's not, why couldn't they decide that a spider is a grill?
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>>319738442

underrated post
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>>319743445
What's wrong with the cane?
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>>319744221
Its whip form is slow as fuck. It's cool, but at the very least I wouldn't recommend trying to PvP with it unless you're legit really good at it.
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>>319738442
>>319744121
I don't get it.
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>>319744221
Untricked attacks have poor range and tricked attacks have poor speed. And neither mode has any stagger to speak of (which is true of most skill weapons). It's an okay weapon but you have to be in the skill build mindset for it.
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>>319738913

Thank you so much for this experience.
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>>319744221
It's not the Beast Cutter
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>All this people saying how this game is easy
>they didnt even try the defiled chalices or the dlc bosses on NG+

Fucking casuals i swear
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>>319741554
>>319741691
>>319741737
>>319741903


fuck i put mine at
Vitality: 50
Endurance: 50
Strength: 50
Skill: 50
Bloodtinge: 12
Arcane: 15

i feel like i fucked up by leveling up endurance so much lel
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>>319745509
well you're like level 200 so it doesnt really matter what you level
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>>319741072
who else /pizzacutter/ here?
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>>319745671
leveling up goes by pretty quick.
I'm only on NG+


Even with my stats like that Ludwig is kicking my ass with his AOE attack in the second stage
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>>319747062
He doesn't do the massive sword slash if you don't get hit by the initial shockwave.

It's just like False King, when you see the charge up for the explosion, just unlock and sprint away.

>>319744930
I'm doing the DLC for the first time on my NG+ run, I got Orphan down to 25% on my very first attempt, only died cause I ran out of Vials.

Granted I do not think I could ever do Laurence solo.

Ludwig's 2nd half is fucking amazing.
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>>319739521
Stop being such an ADHD impatient fuck and kill the fucking spiders before brainlessly going to tickle Rom retard
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>>319741835
Prob if you take too long making your coffee during the fight and he somehow gets enough tickles on you
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>>319747572
I've been told when he charges up that attack to run towards him as soon as the shockwave starts (which depletes my health about 80%)

or to just run away/dodge (usually ends up with me dying.)

I'm on my 12th attempt right now lel
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>>319747826
>he
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>>319747892
Ok so when he raises his sword up in front of him, there's a big explosion, he then follows up with a sword slash that has a massive shockwave around the area of the slash.

Whenever he holds his sword up to start, just run away, don't even try backstepping.
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>>319748795
Fuck alright will attempt again rn, thanks f a m
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>>319739521
>Walk up to hit tender butthole with pizza cutter in hand
>Apply paper of choice
>VRRRRRRRRRRR
>PREY SLAUGHTERED
Whirligig is so overpowered it's not even funny.
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>>319744504
Rom blocks the real world from the player, once you kill him, you can see everything including the spooky monsters everywhere.
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>>319742249
the greatest fuck up in all of DaS 2 to me will always be the bullshit with those blind beasts in the wharf, which DO NOT HIT YOU, yet still apply half a bar of bleeding just for shits and giggles. Every time I end up there on a new game I remember why I quit playing it. It's early, it does not happen on other enemies aside from shit hitboxes in general, but it sums up all that's wrong with the game.
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>>319738827
>Rage quitting
The only time I stop playing games is if I get bored of em, I've never backed down from a game because I got stuck on something.
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>>319737831
It was a beast, that is what it did wrong.
Beasts must be purged.
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Capra Demon took me like 30 tries but no other boss in the Bloodsouls games has taken me more than 5 tries

Sometimes you just get stuck on weird shit
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>>319737831
Doe anyone have the name of the qt girl with sword, shield and a demon's souls shirt? I think she works for from soft of something. Webm instead of the name would be ok too.
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>>319751226
>It was a beast
But she wasn't thou
She's a big spider
You dummy
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>>319752661
But she WAS PREY
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how can people have this much torible beating bosses? don't they hire retards to play test?
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>>319738567
what?how?
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>>319739093
Cleric Beast is legitimately one of the toughest bosses in the game.mainly because the camera is fucked
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>>319741285
If you upgrade it, it's one of the best weapons In the game.
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I was going to say that I don't understand how some people die to Cleric Beast even with the fucked camera but I still die to Gascoigne and Amelia at times
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>>319741304
Anon was being a cunt though.
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>>319737831
>Rom the vacuous spider did LITERALLY nothing
Accurate. Why are the bosses in this game so easy?
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Is dad finished?
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>>319739521
3 words

Shaman Bone Blade
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I held off playing a Souls game for ages before playing Dark Souls 2.

I ended up dying to the first boss in that like 30 times.

I still can't believe I managed that.
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>>319755152
>fight Amelia at low level
>cant deal enough damage to stop her healing herself
>fight lasts about 20 minutes because at times she would just avoid combat to heal multiple times
Its a DPS check.
Gascoigne is easily the casual filter of the game.
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>>319755709
>mfw ludwig was a DSP filter
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Amygdala and Rom are the best Bloodborne bosses.

prove me wrong
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>>319756285
I like how much you can fuck amygdala's day up with viscerals but rom isn't a very good boss m8, cool design and area though
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>>319738067
Two words: Molotovs and oil flasks.
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>>319738442
10/10
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>>319747656
Fucking internet
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>>319737831
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>look at the japanese names of the bosses
>instead of "vacuous" Rom is "profoundly mentally retarded"
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> mfw I hired a gook from my dorm to beat Cleric beast
> mfw I didnt know he's optional

ah man
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>>319758830
Its actually "the foolish spider Rom"
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