I'll start with an obvious one.
Ubisoft and EA
>>319713340
>>319713423
Fuck off thieves
>look guiz I am fighting the corporate system and using it as a excuse for my immoral degenerate behavior xP
>>319713340
they still can redeem themselves
>>319713423
this plus bethesda, gearbox
soon the warnerbros will join them
>>319713651
>defending shit companies
Neo-/v/ needs to fuck off already.
>>319713651
>he thinks you can steal an arrangement of bits
>>319713340
Konami
>>319713651
try harder b8 scum
>>319713340
Whatever you have to use to justify it I guess.
>>319713340
>capcom
Why?
I was hating on Capcom so much. Then I got Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen for 10 bucks. Easily one of my favorite games of all time. There's still some great people working there.
>>319714049
>>319713651
>samefagging THIS hard
wew lad
>>319713948
>person makes a product
>you obtained the product without paying
>not theft
>lel its just a copy bro xD
Capcom's cool again.
Sure, they do lots of gay stuff, but at least they still make quality games.
>>319713651
>theif steals object, thus object can no longer be sold for profit
>pirate Copies object, thus object can still be sold for profit
>same thing
>>319714147
lad pls
>>319713651
Why would we need an excuse.
I pirate games I want to play but dont want to buy. If you dont like it you can fuck off. Triple A games are shit anyway, I keep ending up with a bad taste in my mouth (MGSV, F4, bloodbourne....)
>>319714137
Nice wew lad meme, very contrustive
>>319714147
I suppose librarians are thieves too then?
>>319713651
>creates game praising Karl Marx
>u can't steal this game ur fucking thief fuck off
>>319714282
>AAA games are shit but let me play them anyways cause.....uh....
>>319714282
>bloodbourne
>>319714395
Triple A games are shit, but let me play them anyway because fuck you whos going to stop me.
>>319714169
Go get a haircut from a barber. After he's done, tell him he doesn't deserve a payment - after all, he still has all of his tools, and you didn't take anything from him. Tell us how that goes.
>>319714484
So why are you purposely playing terrible ganes retard
>>319714219
>>319714326
I think the point beingade is that if somebody pirates a game, that means one less copy being sold, this no profit.
Regardless, I still pirate from whoever I feel like deserves it.
>>319714458
>six hour game for 60 dollars
it was good but a letdown.
>>319714524
If he does a shit job, you don't pay.
>>319714290
you are like your battery, below average
fuck off
![NINTENDO_LOGO[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aVqkDTj.jpg "NINTENDO_LOGO[1].jpg")
>>319714524
>confusing a product with a service
>>319714601
>that means one less copy being sold
piracy=/=lost sales
>>319714484
Denuvo at some point
anyway the real reason why you pirate it's because you're fucking poor and that's fine but please stop making bullshit excuses
>>319714592
in what world do you know a games terrible before you play it?
Oh yeah, /v/
>>319713651
While I do think that some companies do deserve pirating due to shitty business practices (the new DOA is a good example), I don't have my head so far up my ass that I would try and argue with you, because you're exactly right. That is what I do. I'm a graff writer too, and I steal markers occasionally. Then to justify my shitty behaviour, I say that I wouldn't do this if I wasn't so poor, but I know that's a lie.
However, when I was younger that excuse was 100% legit, I was too poor to afford most games and my parents didn't want their 13 year old playing GTA. I know what the fuck is up.
>>319713340
Nintendo
>>319714601
>implying a pirate would actually buy the game
If anything, a pirate might be more likely to buy the game if he pirates it and winds up loving it.
>I pirate games from bad companies so I can stick it to the man
>Piracy doesn't actually hurt anyone man it's just copies
top tier logic m80s
>>319713340
Capcom is on the road to recovery i dont want to fuck them over just yet, them sega and square enix have all undergone massive restructuring and have all gotten better since.
If RE7 and the new onimusha or dmc are bad then they can go fuck themselves though
>>319714697
>missing the point that effort by the creator deserves compensation
>>319714746
Tell me how you pirated Bloodborne since you said it was terrible
And you said AAA games are terrible in general yet you still pick a AAA game to play
>>319713340
I just want Monster Hunter on the Vita, I am tired of playing it at 240 fucking p 10 years later. FUCK YOU CAPCOM!
>>319714861
I won't say they've truly recovered until they finally deliver on all their teasing of a new Darkstalkers.
>>319714953
>all their teasing of a new Darkstalkers.
anon...
Sad Reminder that
People are genuinely studid enough to confuse stealing with piracy.
People are genuinely studid enough to confuse stealing with piracy.
People are genuinely studid enough to confuse stealing with piracy.
>>319714892
I didnt pirate bloodbourne. Its only on the PS4.
I was refering to triple A games being shit. This is encompassing over all consoles and the PC.
I never once said I only play triple A games, only that ive been disappointed every time in the last like 6 months.
You are a retarded mouth breather with the reading comprehension of a donkey. Get the fuck out of my kitchen!
>>319715064
>can't spell stupid and calls others stupid
Ironic
>>319715064
I know right, fucking normies
I bet devs like http://www.destructoid.com/only-4-of-volgarr-the-viking-players-bought-the-game-264070.phtml are just fine because piracy is not stealing anyway
>>319715140
So AAA games are shit yet you still pirate them and play them
>>319713340
blame capcom's business strats but they still got some great ip's that are worth supporting, Im looking at you Great ace attorney
>>319715186
>only argument is a typo some retard made when copy pasting a sentence with one in it
>thinks he gets to have an opinion
Ironic
>>319715305
They have some great IPs, but they don't do anything with them. How can you support an IP they aren't doing anything with? They won;t get any money from you going and buying a used SNES or PS1 game.
>>319714723
So for example, if a company released a game and everybody who is able to buy it pirated it and never buys it, that doesnt mean the company that made the game loses money?
>>319715281
Yes.
>>319715305
Yeah d00d, can't wait for Breath of Fire 6, oh and I hope you bought more than one (1) copy of DmC: Devil May Cry.
>>319715269
>http://www.destructoid.com/only-4-of-volgarr-the-viking-players-bought-the-game-264070.phtml
no man it's just copies if the game was any good every single one of those pirates would have bought it
god, you moralfags are so retarded sometimes
>>319715520
So you are mentally retarded by just keep eatting shit even though you hate it
>>319715617
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>>319713340
capcom doesn't even deserve piracy. Getting shit for free doesn't change the fact it's shit. capcom deserve bankruptcy.
>>319715537
>if the game was any good every single one of those pirates would have bought it
>>319715356
>only argument is pointing out me pointing out a typo
>thinks he gets to have a opinion
Ironic
>>319715617
At least he's not paying for it
>>319715749
>makes a comment like this and tells others to go back to reddit
How old are you really
if a games good i dont care if hitler made it, ill buy it. if a games shit i wont buy it.
maybe if i had no money i would pirate, but im blessed right now
Unless my parents were absurdly rich I wouldn't have played 1/1000 of the games I did, I remeber having many 100-1000 in 1 CDs that had pretty much anything before the N64. I buy games I like but having the posibility to enjoy games will always win against the evils of piracy, comparing it to stealing might have some sense but saying it's the same is beyond retarded.
>>319715750
>you can steal free water from the poisoned well
>or you can stop giving attention to the poisoned well and maybe the assholes who poisoned it will end up dying
>>319714867
The creators got paid you dumbass
>>319714867
creation of a product does not guarantee payment
it's not up to the consumer to provide money for a product that doesn't sell
The barber analogy doesn't work because the barber does work on consumers in the expectation of payment and the work can not be easily replicated digitally
creation of a game doesn't guarantee income as it is something that is decided by numerous aspects like personal taste. Not only that but other than the expense of actually creating the code and art there isnt any real cost if digitally distributed. Physical distribution is another matter.
In an ideal world every one would be paid an equal amount and no one would be unfairly treated but piracy somewhat balances out the income inequalities that are rife in the developed world.
>>319715940
>steal
whoah there dude didn't you get the memo piracy isn't stealing it's just copies you know, you just make a copy and then they keep their copy and everyone all happy don't you know
>>319713340
you PC keks are the reason dragons dogma won't get a sequel
>>319716113
That's stealing you fucking criminal, same goes for all the assholes taking pictures and filming artworks and anyone who records copyrighted content, you all belong in the 11th circle of hell.
If piracy wouldn't be a problem then games like crysis, witcher or gta would stay on pc
instead we have broken ports and releses years after consoles
>>319716314
Say that to the guy who sold a photograph of a painting for 400,000 dollars.
also fuck 'art'
>>319714953
That's just Ono talking. Ono and Itsuno both want to make new entries in Vampire/DS and RS/PJ respectively, but I doubt the higher ups would let them, especially if VRes bombed as bad as people assumed it did.
>>319716434
I bet you also sing songs you haven't paid for, you disgust me.
>>319713340
I'd rather just not play the games in the first place a company actually was acting scummy
>>319716602
Did you know some people actually walk on the sidewalks but dont pay taxes?
>>319716314
>natural world exists
>paint painting of natural world
>sell single painting for $10,000
>natural world exists
>take photograph of natural world
>sell reprints for $1 each
>natural world exists
>create something based on natural world
>try to sell it
>complain when people can see it for free
yeah no art is bullshit.
>>319714524
>Not cutting your own hair
>>319716470
How does that explain anything other than the higher ups being fuckwits, and thus Capcom as a company still being bad?
>>319716362
you want to stop piracy?
three simple steps
Stop greedy corprations from nickel and diming every action in a game See All the preorder shit in ME3 and All the Bullshit in that new rainbow 6 game
Secondly Provide Demos for games so people can install it and see how it runs on thier computers
Thirdly Wipe out poverty.
there you go No more piracy.
>>319713340
>all these anti-piratefags
Maybe if companies sold their products at affordable prices and high quality I wouldn't have to pirate them.
>>319716645
If Hitler had invented the internet I would still be shitposting gladly.
>>319713340
with the exception of ace attorney
>>319713651
This. I simply don't buy games with EA's logo on it. I've heard that Ubisoft has been pretty bad, but they haven't wronged me so far so I don't mind buying their games.
>>319713651
>i liek licking peepee
That's you.
>>319713340
But Capcom have turned themselves around really well the last few years?
>>319713651
>It's not like those companies are immoral
>>319717206
By this I mean I don't pirate EA games either, I just ignore them.
>>319716824
did crytek had been greedy when they released crysis for pc only?
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/110154/Crysis_Developer_Puts_Piracy_Ratio_At_120.php
or cdpr when they did that for both witcher and witcher 2 drm free?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-witcher-2-pirated-45-million-times-cd-projekt/1100-6346876/
It's too late to stop piracy, pc scum will always pirate no matter what
>>319716898
>affordable prices
like what? $1?
>>319717525
how did they estimate those numbers?
no sources. nothing
seems like they are probably pulling those numbers out their asses
>>319717634
Sure. I could probably afford $5 - $10 as well.
>>319717885
>they are probably pulling those numbers out their asses
much like you piratefags do with your moral justifications for pirating
>>319714134
Yeah it's a great game and all, but imagine you'd bought it for full price when it first came out. Because it looked so fuckin good, and It was.
Then they release dark arisen, so I was like sick, an expansion! But you can't even get it unless you buy the whole game AGAIN.
I bought it and it was great, obviously, but I feel like they are punishing me for being their fan and buying their stuff on release.
And now I hear they're releasing a definitive version for ps4 edition, but this could be false.
Like fuck you, just let me enjoy your games.
God don't even get me started on asuras wrath. The game was amazing, but the shit they pulled was the purest of faggotry
>>319717885
sure thing bro, don't forget to seed
>>319717969
how generous of you
>>319713423
I agree, I have many games from those too, but I refuse to play then or to buy any other game made by then
>>319718219
>HAHAHAH WAHAT A POOR FAG KEK STUPID PIRATE FAGS AYYLMAO KEK IM SOO RICH STOP PIRATING POOR FAG
>what are social classes
>what are third world countries
>what are minimum wages
fuck off cunt
>>319714524
Wow this is some grotesque false equivalence. That's not the same as what he said at all you fuckin moron.
all these PC people defending piracy... doesn't bother me one bit, you're only killing your favorite platform even more.
>>319718551
this
you can pirate all you want, but you're the fuckers who get stuck with all the DLC shit
>>319718450
I just adore your generosity, calm down
>>319718450
>my poverty gives me not only the right but also the moral justification to get things for free
top tier moral justification friend. yo truly have shown those stupid moralfags that you truly are entitled to getting things for free through illegal means
>>319718450
Not to mention a lot of games I pirated are sold at prices that go beyond robbery.
>>319718551
>implying only PC owners are pirates
>A shitload of PS2 were sold THANKS to piracy.
>>319718678
Why should piracy be illegal? It doesn't hurt anyone, all it does is make my life better. If an action only has positive outcomes then it is morally good, you could argue that NOT doing it is morally bad.
>>319713651
Illegal sure, probably somewhat immoral,
But it sure as hell isn't theft.
>>319713340
In the grand scheme of things, Capcom isn't that bad - and it's a shame I have to preface this with that.
Many of their PC ports are surprisingly decent, and porting Dragon's Dogma (what looks like a good port, at least on the performance front) wins brownie points for.
Shit like the lack of physical copies for games like Ace Attorney is frustrating, but still better than the games not being localized - which was obviously an alternative.
It's hard to be too salty about them when compared to many Japanese companies which are entirely and completely incompetent on the PC front, and especially when considering companies like Ubisoft which can just get fucked.
>>319716262
Actually if anything it would be the console users for not fucking buying enough of it the first time round.
>>319718802
nice bait
>>319718551
>killing
Piracy has been around since the 90s and despite all those piracy, pc gaming still managed to live and getting bigger than ever. It doesn't make any sense. If you actively kills something for 20+ years, that something should be dead by now.
Someone please explain this nonsense to me.
>>319718887
Name one negative outcome of piracy besides muh sales.
>>319718740
Sony made money off royalties from sold games, not from the sales of consoles, I'm sorry to ruin your argument for you there.
>>319718976
it encourages companies to pursue more cancerous methods of gaining revenue like cutting out content and putting it behind a DLC wall
>>319718976
Muh copyright infringement.
>>319719103
kek no it doesn't. Buying DLC encourages more DLC not piracy. If you guys want DLC to stop you need to stop purchasing it. Also people that don't browse /v/ need to stop purchasing it, which will likely never happen.
>>319713340
All of them except for One Man Indie Teams and companies that care about the consumer like NintenVanillaware
>>319718976
>Besides sales
THAT'S LITERALLY 99% OF THE ISSUE.
>>319718943
>getting bigger than ever
you mean no AAA exclusives, dead pc genres like rts, always online games like diablo 3, three DRM clients, f2p assfaggots, humble indie shit and kickstarter?
right
>>319718976
if you're too stupid to see any then you're too stupid to bother holding a conversation with
i'll humor you though
>everyone pirates every game
>the amount of new games, good or bad, that get made sharply plummets
or are you suggesting that people should make games exclusively out of the goodness of their hearts for all the world to enjoy
>>319713651
To be honest, as far as the company is concerned it's literally the same thing as them not buying the product, ie the message is sent that they didn't earn money so they should do better next time. Seems reasonable to me.
>>319719368
>or are you suggesting that people should make games exclusively out of the goodness of their hearts for all the world to enjoy
Maybe. It would be interesting to see how different vidya would be. I wouldn't mind a video game crash to reset everything. People would eventually buy games again if they became good enough.
>>319718678
Extravagant reading comprehension pal. I'm pretty sure his comment meant the opposite of the way you took it. I don't think he was taking the side of piraters. You truely know how to sound like a faggot. Truely truely.
>>319719295
>AAA exclusives
Cancer. Exclusive titles are cancer that shouldn't exist anyway. It makes people buy platform because of games instead of the merit of said platform.
>dead pc genres like rts,
The current market trends calls for fps and moba. Rts will make another appearance if the market demands it. Just wait for it.
>always online games like diablo 3
That's just companies being massive cunts. Witcher 3 has no always online drm. Fallout 4 has no always online drm. They sell like hotcakes.
>three DRM clients
You only need one: Steam. Didn't like it? GoG. There's always a choice. Also, Steam regularly do steam sale where you can buy games for half the price. Steam actually helps people goes legit. It has no drawback at all.
>f2p assfaggots
They're free games. Nobody forcing anyone to play them. Didn't like them? Ignore them. Devs are just trying to eliminate the initial cost of playing a game.
>humble indie shit and kickstarter?
Scam. Why did you even mention them?
>>319720401
>Extravagant reading comprehension pal.
haha, thanks, but i think you were being sarcastic
also either illiterate or shitposting but ok
>>319720601
>Cancer
pc AAA exclusives could be glorious due to hardware you cunt
>The current market trends calls for fps and moba
the current pc market is free to play shitty mobas for children, rts will never come back
>Witcher 3 has no always online drm. Fallout 4 has no always online drm. They sell like hotcakes
still sold better on consoles, why is that?
>You only need one: Steam
we could have none if without pirate scumbags
>It has no drawback at all
digital renting service, pc boxed games are dead
no drawback you say?
>Scam. Why did you even mention them?
because pc users are falling for it
>>319713340
Nintendo. They've gone off the fucking deep end in recent years, only the casuals and brain dead loyalists praise them now. Like seriously I've been playing Nintendo games for 26 years now, I don't know how the fuck you kids can sit back and say they haven't change when its night and day for anyone who isn't a underage retard.
>>319713651
>Insert le happy merchant dank meme
Guys Im part of the club yet?
>>319713340
I'm going to buy RE0 and Dragons Dogma next month.
>>319721157
>pc exclusives
Pc fag here, but WHAT?
>>319721157
>pc AAA exclusives could be glorious due to hardware you cunt
Read my post again. Exclusive makes people compromise their choice. With no exclusive, people will gravitate their choice into the best platform (which is pc). The whole concept of exclusivity is cancer.
>the current pc market is free to play shitty mobas for children, rts will never come back
They said exactly the same thing about point and click adventure game few years ago. Now p&c games are started to resurface.
>still sold better on consoles, why is that?
Because some people just want to take up the controller, press ONE BUTTON and get to play their game? Convenience sells.
>we could have none if without pirate scumbags
Digital platform is the next step of game distribution, piracy or not. People pay for convenience.
>digital renting service, pc boxed games are dead
>no drawback you say?
Yes. Boxed pc games have to include booklet and the actual dvd. Digital platform has none of that and thus can sell the game at much, much lower price.
>because pc users are falling for it
Too bad. But they are idiots and deserves to get scammed anyway.
>>319722402
I don't like exclusives concept either but we need pc exclusives just to show people what can you achieve with a pc hardware
>Now p&c games are started to resurface
thanks to kickstarter mostly
>Because some people just want to take up the controller, press ONE BUTTON and get to play their game? Convenience sells
or you could just say that more people are buying games on consoles, just look at gta v or skyrim sales platform wise
>Digital platform is the next step of game distribution, piracy or not
it's because piracy, that's a fact
>Yes. Boxed pc games have to include booklet and the actual dvd. Digital platform has none of that and thus can sell the game at much, much lower price.
and yet physical console market are doing great despite the fact that console users can buy digital titles too, why?
>>319713340
>piracy
But I've never engaged in murder, kidnapping, or robbery on the high seas. And really wouldn't want to.
This is a very odd thread topic.
