>game expects you to learn a fictional language to solve a puzzle
Braille isn't fictional.
Fucking English
>start button pauses the game
gak
>>319647137
>morse code puzzle
>>319647632
... --- ...
>>319647137
>game expects you to know music notes to solve puzzle
>>319647308
it might as well be since i've never seen a use for it
>>319647761
>never seen a use for it
I was about to make a similar joke.
>>319647538
Shitposter please leave.
>>319647719
>Puzzle involves music notes
>It uses the english system and not the european one
E drehg ed yttc du dra vyhdyco amasahd, jano vih!
>you need to learn a fictional base 5 numeral system to beat the game
>>319647137
Is someone playng Legend of mana.
>Game has a fictional but articulate language
>You have to decipher the language without a key of any kind
>>319647718
Thanks steel battalion. Too bad that game died it was fun playing with /v/
>Game expects you to have intimate knowledge on Shakespeare's plays, be able to pick up on said plays based on subtle notes, and to be able to add numbers and dismiss other numbers based on very subtle wording
>>319648273
>Base 5
>Fictional
What are you talking about?
>>319648335
>>319648348
>game expects you to play it
what the fuck, people just want a story!!
>Puzzle components are colour coded
>>319649865
>game has story as its only good side
What the fuck, if I wanted a good story I'd read a book!
>>319647137
Hated that shit in Fez
>>319649772
This is how you sound:
>>game uses a fictional alphabet
>alphabets
>fictional
whaaaa?????????
>>319647137
>the language is just regular English with a different alphabet
>>319649951
I am color blind - what is this suppoed to be?
>>319651038
35 in green
or
57 in orange
>>319650902
THIS MOTHERFUCKER
FUCK YOU I LOVE YOU
THEN
THE OTHER ONE?
FUCK THAT ONE JESUS FUCK THAT
>>319651139
thanks, I see nothing there.
>game expects you to know algebra to solve puzzle
>>319649694
I started silent hill 3 as a kid because "I aint no casual" and never beat it. Years later I went back and did hard mode again and still couldn't beat it. That means I couldn't even really start the game for years until I gave up and put it on normal.
Fuck any game that requires outside knowledge that may or may not be common knowledge.
Like >>319647137 would be fine if they gave you a key or something to work it out ingame. However if they straight up give you a puzzle in french and you don't know french; vous êtes baisée.
>>319647459
This.
>>319650960
it's a fictional alphabet if it's not used in real life. You know only in fiction.
However Quinary is actually used, by very few groups of people but it is used.
>game has an area with messages in an indecipherable language
>puzzles are done with trial and error
>second game gives you a full cipher
>the messages have nothing to do with the puzzles
>game expects you to have friends
>"game" expects you to solve differential equations to calculate values in combatNot vidya, but still.FATAL
>>319651345
>not knowing algebra
how's 9th grade going?
>>319647137
>game encodes messages in a bespoke alphabet
>and expects you to decode messages manually
games that waste my time get shitcanned
>>319648273
sleep tight doger
>>319651691
Diferential equations are piss-easy, anyone with a brain can solve them
>>319651565
A fictional alphabet can (and in most cases does) represent sounds that are used by real alphabets.
A numerical system can use the same algebra of the real world, but represent it in a way that isn't used in real life, and be therefore FICTIONAL.
>>319651139
>35 in green
Anon, I have bad news.
>>319647137
>there's no map of the dungeon
>you need to draw it yourself
>Game has a fictional language created for its magic
>All the magic is sung
>>319649951
I just realized I can barely make out 57. I never considered myself colorblind, I can see red and green most fine, is it possible to only have minor red/green colorblindness instead of full retard colorblindness?
>>319651760
>missing the point this hard
>>319651691
>FATAL
I want to sit in on a session of a group ACTUALLY playing FATAL legitimately. You hear the stories on /tg/ but I don't believe a single one of them is real until I actually walk into my flgs and see them playing it.
>>319651816
Fair enough but how would you represent it in a fictional way? Like how riven does it in the context of actually representing them with those boxes?
Fucking Secret World man. Fuck that game in so many ways.
>>319651198
Sucks to be subhuman
>>319647137
>the game expects you yo learn about itself to reach the boss
Clocked 30 hours in Banjo Tooie, were they seriously expecting me to remember the writings in some fucking sign post or the doll some fuckig kid was playing with at the beginning of the game?
>>319651838
It actually does, I hadn't noticed myself.
You have to look for the slightly lighter shade of green, part of it overlaps with the red/orange.
>>319651939
Can you see the 35 more easily?
>>319651692
>>319651345
>have to take 3 samples of rock then prepare a chemical bath, grind the samples, mix the prepared sample and chemicals, combine the liquid with the primary composition of the rock sample, then run it through a fourier transform machine, THEN repeat the process twice more and use the distance each fourier transform reading gives you to triangulate the location of an artifact buried in an asteroid
>I haven't used trigonometry since high school
>mfw looking for my graphing calculator
seriously fuck xenoarcheology.
>>319651963
>Fair enough but how would you represent it in a fictional way? Like how riven does it in the context of actually representing them with those boxes?
I think that's what he had in mind.
>>319652067
>overlaps
Anon, please. Barely half of each of those numbers is actually composed with the green colour, the rest is completely overridden by the 57. There's no way to get 35 out of that unless your vision is fucked.
>game expects you to learn about dwarven philosophy and be able to debate it
name three games that do this
>>319651963
>You hear the stories on /tg/ but I don't believe a single one of them is real until I actually walk into my flgs and see them playing it.
The pdf for it is easy to acquire.
All 1000 pages of it (though most of those are charts).
Though I'm not sure if "playing" is the proper word here. The "system" is such a clusterfuck that would be more like houseruling things together while using the stats in game.
No human being would spend all the required time to learn FATAL just to play FATAL.
>>319649951
Can see both buy would never guess the 35 if you guys didn't point it out.
>>319652168
Sounds neat, what game?
>>319647137
Fucking legend of mama and the dubear bullshit.
The guy only explains the language once so if you don't write it down you're fucked.
>>319652142
>distance from fourier transform
w0t
>>319647137
>Game expects you to NOT open specific chests which it never mentions in order to unlock the best items.
>>319652218
I have the pdf on my computer but I mean actually playing the 'system' in some way or fashion.
>No human being would spend all the required time to learn FATAL just to play FATAL.
That is why I want to see it done because some people have claimed to have done it or know people who has in greentext and I stand by my 1 in every 100 greentext is real so that means it is possible.
Also if my group can play maid RPG and it be hilarious as fuck. I'm sure there is a group so fucked in the head that they find FATAL fun in some way.
>>319651876
>there's no map of the overworld
>you need to scour it and draw it yourself so you can know potential landmarks
I actually love games like that, makes you feel like an actual explorer.
>>319652140
Honestly, not really, is this what I'm supposed to see?
>>319651876
Fuck you, I like Etrian Odyssey
>>319652318
magic
>mfw learning about FATAL from this thread
>game has a 'language' made by simply substituting letters
>no changes to grammar or pronunciation rules at all
Tolkien must be spinning in his grave
>>319652424
No, you should be seeing the 57, you should only (actively) see the 35 (and nothing else) if you have a certain colorblindness. Also that is just one part, you can't really take the test based on one picture.
>>319647137
God damn you, Phil.
>>319647137
>The producer made entirely new language and writing system based on the game lores.
>Get used in game frequently
>You don't get forced to learn it.
Wonder if that guy from Banpresto or Gust itself.
>game forces you to learn real world geography
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is_LvsdmtOk
>>319652167
>Anon, please. Barely half of each of those numbers is actually composed with the green colour, the rest is completely overridden by the 57.
Yes, that's what I said. The red numbers overlap with the slightly bluer ones. Also I'm not the same person. If you can't distinguish the slightly bluer tinge of green from the more yellowish one you are blind.
>>319651816
But all base systems are used, you fucking mongoloid, the fact that regular joes don't ever use it don't mean shit. Is like arguing that the neutral of addition function is always 0. Not it isn't you can use and addition function where your neutral is 1 and were 2+2=5, sure it fucks up the rest of the entire mathematics but it can be done and some people use it to resolve problems more easily.
>>319652527
That's a cipher not a language. I honestly hate it because I've made a more complex language in 4th grade with my friends.
Little kids shouldn't make a better language than adult developer.
>>319651669
REEEEEEEEEMOVE TRIFORCE HEROES
>Game expects you to use one of the console gimmicks when most of the game is just the normal controls
I didn't even know the DS had a mic.
>>319652640
This is what convinced me he is just acting.
Nobody is this retarded.
>>319652375
FF XII was a bitch, also I wonder what goes through the mind of the designer who thought this was a good idea.
>>319652142
SOHCAHTOA motherfucker.
>>319652540
Huh, so I'm probably good then? I mean even if I had colorblindness it's definitely subtle, I can easily discern most red and green from each other.
>>319652527
>We have created a draconian language for Skyrim! It should show how much we love and care for the lore.
>Just substituting letters for runes
It really does show how much you care.
Doesn't bethesda have lore writers? Like people whose whole job is the rule all these passages in books that 1% of players read. Couldn't they get them to actually create a somewhat functional fictional language.
>>319652142
>bay features
And don't forget 90% of the article explaining the job being poorly written guides on how to RP doing analysis instead of how things work.
>>319652662
>If you can't distinguish the slightly bluer tinge of green from the more yellowish one
Of course you can. That doesn't change that there's no way to make out numbers from the darker green based on how little it shows. You're looking for something where it's not there, the colour change there is just to make it harder for colourblind people to see the 57.
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>>319652231
There's a quest in Arcanum that allows you to do that. You can also debate against nihilism with the final boss, if i remember correctly
>>319652856
Colorblindness is rarely a case of, "I didn't know I had it". Most people with it know they're color blind unless they're literally shut in and never talk to people or somehow every conversation they ever had didn't touch on colors they have a deficiency in, which mind you color is one of the main focal points for a lot of people since it's easily identifiable ("I'm by the red car").
If you're worried that you're getting colors wrong but you can actually the tell difference (even if you get the name wrong) you're not color blind, you're just ignorant. Like I still can never tell what is pink or purple or everything between. They all look purple to me but I visually see the difference I just don't know what makes it pink/purple because I'm retarded.
>>319652527
Tolkien never even made a language, just the basis of one.
>>319652671
You can't read, but I'll be patient and explain again.
"fictional numerical system" doesn't mean that it's 100% fiction. As long as any part of it is fictional, then it's considered fictional.
Yes, the quinary system exists and it's used in the real world. But the quinary system used in the game in question uses fictional symbols that actually work differently from numbers in the real world. It is therefore a "fictional numerical system", exactly how an alphabet that represents exactly the same sounds of the English language using fictional symbols would still be a "fictional alphabet".
You spastic glue-breathing retarded chimp.
>>319653110
I can live with being retarded.
>>319652864
>bethesda
>lore writers
>game allows you to will someone into existence if you repeat their name enough times
>>319652930
And 6 out of 8 machines literally just give you 'lore' that some dude wrote up in five minutes and give you no useful information.
>>319653235
They have lore writers(the lore master is also just a cool job title occupation). Them being good is another question, but the fact that someone gets paid to do it IS true.
>>319653110
But while being color blinded you need someone to tell you that you are color blinded. Since language association only works per individuals and it isn't a social construct. You create your own image of each word you learn and in the case of colors is the colors you perceive in reality. If you are color blinded and can see an spectrum of color you would never known until you point out something that denotes you are color blinded to someone that isn't.
>>319649951
can clearly see 57
35 nope
>>319653568
Which is why I said unless you're a shut in you would know because of how often such a situation would show up.
>>319653393
>bethesda writers
>getting paid
One word: Interns
>>319648375
You mean "Steel Diver"
>>319652025
I liked theTower of Terror
>game expects you to play it
fuck off I'm going to write about this on my blog
>>319652932
It's to help to find out which type of colourblind a person is
![2eo8vg2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bIPPv0U.jpg "2eo8vg2[1].jpg")
>Constant manual adjusting during every time you attempt the puzzle
Fuck this shit
>puzzle in a game with random encounters
>>319652930
>Maybe when you have enough data, you’ll write a book about it?
Is there a point to doing xenobio?
>>319652932
Oh would you look at that:
http://colorvisiontesting.com/ishihara.htm#seventh test plate answer
>>319651359
It was some serious bullshit, might do a hard puzzle run and look that one up, but I'm afraid a lot of the other puzzles are that retarded.
![Skyrim_GZ2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FDmVMjF.jpg "Skyrim_GZ2[1].jpg")
>game expects you to be a genius to solve a puzzleThis isn't even close to being the worst 'puzzle' in the game, there's one later on where the solution is literally right next to the lock
>Game has messages written in a fictional alphabet scattered throughout the levels
>Find a cipher late into the game
>It's flavor text with a few developer messages hidden inbetween
And my absolute favorite...
>Messages written in fictional alphabet
>Turns out it's just Lorem Ipsum
>>319654890
most of the puzzles are actually quite tame in hard mode actually. It's just a few littered here and there that requires ridiculous stuff from you.
There are a few puzzles that have books that teach you how to solve them if you don't have the knowledge and they take it out on hard mode and that is the only change. That and you'll never solve the puzzle to unlock royal flush but that is optional.
>>319655110
That is just a really poorly done puzzle. You most likely have never used the feature to rotate stuff in your inventory and most people prior to this didn't even know said feature existed. Then the only hint (which I don't remember what the actual hint was) was a piece a paper that was easy to miss. The final issue being that they have those symbols around in the dungeon so you think the solution is based on those symbols instead of it just being decorations.
I'll admit that I brute forced 2 dungeons and only found out cause someone told me.
>>319655691I brute forced all of them.
The idea that the key unlocks both parts of a two part lock makes no goddamn sense.
>Game wants you to do objective A
>You can't use any skill/weapon/ability/vehicles/customs you've acquired thus far.
