>30fps is region locked
#4theplayers
so? 30fps is fine, it's just running like it did back when i was a kid
>>319636952
My bad, this is one case where linking the article probably would've helped.
http://www.destructoid.com/the-ps4-s-emulated-ps2-games-run-worse-in-europe-325402.phtml
http://pastebin.com/TfcNiU63
tl;dr NA games run at 30fps while EU games run at 25
Good thing I don't live in Yurpe then
I own a PS2.
>using eu psn
If you do this you are asking for it.
>>319637619
Jesus fucking christ.
#4thegaymers
topkek
>>319637619
>silky smooth 25 fps
Hahahaha you cannot make this shit up
remember how the European SNES and Genesis ran at 30hz?
Europe and Australia get fucked 80% of the time and it's hilarious.
No wonder you geys get sweet exclusive special editions;~;
They've unlocked the 7th core and yet they STILL can't get their old games to run at 60fps?
What a joke.
>>319637619
How can you fuck up that much ? This is PAL/NTSC all over again.
>>319637619
Just like the good old days.
>tfw remember all those shitty PAL-versions of DMC and FFX which were slower and looked uglier
>>319638254
Funny part is eurokeks buy the ps4 at higher rates than usaers vs the xboner
Get what they deserve desu
>>319638406
Can PC emulation run these games at 60fps or does emulation not work that way?
>>319638315
50hz, you autistic sperglord.
>>319638468
No, you need the NTSC versions to run at 30fps. Some games have hacks to double the framerate but not all
>>319638468
If the game doesn't initially run at 60fps, you usually need hacks to unlock the framerate. These hacks can fuck up some games because in some cases, some gameplay mechanics/physics/whatever are tied to the framerate.
In other words Sony is enforcing Pal versions of PS2 games just like Retarded Nintendo did whit Virtual console.
Pal games run at 50 hz while NTSC games run at 60 hz.
So when you split that in half ou get 25 vs 30.
>>319638468
Most PS2 games used to have gameplay tied to framerate, you'd better lock your fps to 30.
What's more worrying is that the PS4 can't hold a solid 30 fps when running a PS2 game.
>>319638439
>paying more for a worse framerate
Oh yurop, you so crazy.
>>319636952
>PS2
>30 fps
Right.
>>319638468
Yes, but PAL-50 games usually have audio issues and/or pre rendered cut scene issues.
>>319638468
Emulation doesn't magically un-tie your game's frame-rate. The FPS you actually see in PCSX2 is showing if the emulator is running at the same refresh rate as the PS2, but games are still locked at whatever framerate the game was originally locked at.
>>319638402
Well it runs like the original.
I guess increasing the framerate of old games is too much work.
It's not fucking fair PAL bros
who cares? I emulate PS2 games on my PC anyway
I was mad in the 50hz era
I'm even more mad now.
>25 fps
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
I reinstalled Deus Ex: HR recently, and before i fixed it, it was stuck at a constant 26 fps due to some ati bumfuckery. I thought it was literally unplayable.
Sony is cleansing the retarded euro keks who think its a good idea to bring in mudl
i love these threads
>>319638823
>Well it runs like the original.
I swear to God, Sony's gonna use this as an actual argument.
>Well we did promise you wouldn't notice a difference! :^)
>>319636338
OH for christ sake.
>>319638820
>Emulation doesn't magically un-tie your game's frame-rate
You're right, which is why PAL games run at 85% speed of the US/JP releases and all have kinds of audio and video playback issues. PAL games are literally worthless.
>>319636338
It's a shame but the issues are a bit messy, largely they generally want the localised EU versions with FIGS translations. That said, their solution isn't really acceptable.
Honestly, they should do auto cross-buy of the EU and US versions wherever possible. Would solve 90% of the issues.
>>319639412
>Its updated!!!!
>Its just like the original!!!
>Its uprendered!!!
Xbones BC is region free, disc+digital, is embedded with the Xbones features and costs nothing
PS4's BC forces you to re-buy your old games, performs like fucking shit and costs money, and also might require a subscription streaming service if you want to play PS3 games
PS4 is a fucking bad joke.
i don't think fps makes a difference on old games like that, from what i remember with emulators some games went full retard if you tried to boost frame rate
I remember there was one game where there was like a timer or something and it went by retardedly fast with high frame rate, and it only went properly when i lowered it
not sure if people are trolls or just retarded though when they think you can just run games that just don't support more frames at higher frames, you can run into some weird graphical and sometimes gameplay glitches
was the whole pal thing and different frame rates strictly because of the different amounts of power things used? never woulda guessed that is why but it would make sense now that i think about it
>>319636338
>Sony
M-muh tallest trees get more wind.
You damn right you get, you filthy Sonyggers. It's what you get for supporting this crappy company.
Good thing I have a PS2 with Freemcboot
>>319639489
God bless HDTV for finally unifying video standards and freeing us from this bullshit.
As an idort from the UK i think ive finally fucking had it with Sonys new direction now, ill keep the Vita but this PS4 is extremely close to fucking going.
>>319638625
I'm sure it could, but the gang would likely break if you altered the franerate, since they were made for one specific platform devs tied all sorts of stuff the frames rather than time.
>>319639861
werent you around for 2006? when sonys on top they go straight to the shitter within years, they just never learn
Who runs EU ports?
PALpatine?
Ok that's just fucking retarded, why don't they just release the NTSC versions on PSN?
>The PAL version is then boosted from 25 FPS to 30 through frame blending. While this does technically make the games 30 FPS like their NTSC counterparts, it also means they suffer from frequent stuttering not found in the North American versions.
Jesus fuck
Thankfully I was lucky enough to find myself Agent Under Fire and now have a softmodded PS2 that "somehow" runs NTSC games just fine
>>319640385
Because the PAL versions often have translations that the US-NTSC versions don't have.
Rogue galaxy runs at 60hz luckily, it had the option to either run at 50 or 60hz back in the day.
>>319636338
>emulated ps2 games on hardware probably 50 times more powerful can't even run the game as good as the ps2 did
LMAO
>doesn't just emulate PS2 on PC at 4k 120fps
LMAO
>>319640359
>from my point of view the Kinect is evil!
>make US account
>buy NA PSN card
>buy game
>???
>>319641354
>le smug anime
Not even going to read that shitty post, faggot.
Are people so underage now they don't even remember PAL 50hz?
>>319641620
Your feelings are visibly hurt.
>>319641508
Well, sure, but it's still a bit annoying that you have to do that.
>>319641685
I grew up playing PC games on an 85hz CRT so no, I don't
>>319641776
You never watched TV? A VHS tape or DVD?
>>319641737
>Le smug anime
Not even going to to read that shitpost, faggot.
>>319639341
Course you do, horrorkek. :3
>>319637619
FOR THE PLAYERS
>>319636338
>>319637619
> ntsc tv standards has always been 30fps
> pal tv standards has always been 25fps
Destrutoid is now the new slowtaku.
I swear to god consoletards are like dogs staying with their abusive master simply because they don't know any better
