We NEED these games to succeed and do well guys, badly. If we don't, arena shooters will never make a comeback. You want to kill the CoD and BF series? Get your ass to Epic games site right now, and fucking download Unreal Tournament 4. Prepare for Doom 4 and Overwatch, and hype the fuck out of them on forums, and to people in person via word of mouth. If we all give our support to these games, other companies will see that these realism military shooters are played out, and the glorious age of arena shooters will return. And for the love of fucking god quit fucking playing CS:Go and fucking Rainbow 6 games.
If we don't, the genre is as good as dead. And we'll be stuck with yet more generic realism sickdark army man shooters in realistic settings with boring ass realism guns.
>>319626347
Overwatch can go suck a dick. Haloom 4 too. And there's no shortage of cartoon FPS now thanks to manchildren.
Can we support Titanfall as well? The fast movement and parkour mechanics felt arena tournament-esque.
Also, if I'm not mistaken Doom 4 is actually slow and not much of an arena shooter at all, but I might be incorrect.
>>319626347
>Implying I give a fuck
>>319626690
I was entertained until you ADSed and had giant achievement complete garbage covering your screen
>>319626649
>And there's no shortage of cartoon FPS now thanks to manchildren.
Military tacticool shooters are for manchildren, shooters that are actually well made aren't realistic. You like realism so much, go join the damn army.
>>319626347
Doom 4 does not play like Doom or any old school arena shooter at all. It feels like Halo with cutscene kills.
>>319626690
I hate the army theme, but the movement is arena style, so we gotta support it. Support warframe too. Any shooter with unrealistic movement and guns needs our support.
>>319626347
>rain
>sickdark
Welcome back.
>>319626987
It's pretty fucking fast bro, look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfe7V-_3r0
>>319627209
>handpicked segments
>bethesda
fuck that shit
will only judge once we get uncut full games
>>319626690
>wow, this looks like so much fun, I bet it gets even better
>get to shooting part
>guy stands still and aims down sights
INTO THE TRASH IT GOES
>>319627051
>Warframe
No thank you, I wasted 1000 hours on that garbage, well more than 400 of those would be idling, but still. It had amazing potential that was squandered by kekold canadikeks.
>>319627051
>Any shooter with unrealistic movement and guns needs our support.
So CoD Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3 then
>>319627209
>slower UT
>EBIN KILL ANIMATIONS THAT YOU'RE LOCKED INTO
>that kekold announcer voice
Into the trash.
>>319627262
Better than shit like CoD, BF3/4, and Battlefront. We gotta take what we can get. Overwatch and Unreal 4 are our biggest bets though, we gotta support those games HARD.
>>319627417
Don't listen to that faggot. The only shooters that need support are the ones that focus on movement + shooting, not movement and shooting that are entirely separate entities.
>>319627417
Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3 are still military trash though, I'm talking about shit more like Overwatch and Unreal 4. Unrealistic shooters with crazy guns.
>>319627417
Or we can support a real shooter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRBnV4Ax06U
>>319626347
>Unreal 4
Unreal TOURNAMENT 4, you homo erectus.
And I don't want the genre to make a comeback if it's only in name. Fuck shit like D44m. It ain't an 'arena shooter' as you put it. It's fucking Halo on Mars. Anybody who pays for that shit with the intention of supporting development of actual classic style FPS development is a massive sucker.
People have already shown they don't care about any arena shooters besides the old as fuck ones since every arena shooter that comes out these days fails pretty quickly. If you want more games like it support the ones that come out, don't try and goad others into supporting similar games for you. Doom looks like an awful game regardless of if you like modern shooters or arena shooters though. The new UT is pretty much dead but I think that's mostly because there's pretty much one map made by the devs. Not sure about Overwatch.
>>319627849
Well support UT4, it's fucking GOOD, and not CoD shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU-0hEotD18
And never mention trash like Halo in my presence, ever.
>>319627869
UT4 is NOT dead, it's doing great, plus the game is still in beta. It's the game to watch, same for Overwatch. Doom 4 is a stretch sure, but it's better than shit like Battlefield and CoD.
>>319626962
>Military tacticool shooters are for manchildren
Manchildren mock any sort of realism at every turn, you dumb sperg.
>>319628081
I'm fairly certain BO3's multiplayer is better than what Doom's multiplayer is going to be. Part of CoD's issue is that a new one by a new dev comes out every year so the games really have no staying power or desire to really exist for any decent amount of time.
>>319628134
No, manchildren WANT realism, to feel like edgy hardcore badasses.
>>319628134
You're not wrong, actual children are into military tacticool shit.
Manchildren are into cartoon garbage with literally no cohesive theme.
Patricians are into edgy, gritty post-scifi stuff like UT and Quake artstyle.
>>319628183
Miliotary shooters don't have good gameplay. Their gameplay consists of
>run down corridor
>"hey i think I-" get shot and die in 1 hit
>>319628254
That's actual children though.
God I hate arena fags
Glad their shitty point n click games are dead, so fuckin obnoxious
>>319628254
>>319628134
no manchildren are autistic enough to think a problem of a game can be traced down to one single extreme
realism and fantasy can be both done very well even for people who don't like one or the other
>>319626347
>We NEED these games to succeed and do well guys, badly. If we don't, arena shooters will never make a comeback.
There are virtually no actual arena FPS fans left. The majority of the ones on /v/ are absolute shitposters that only pretend they like it so that they can shitpost. I honestly do not see the big deal in them any ways. They look like games only an absolute autist would like. Or at least that's the vibe I got from the non stop shitposting about it.
>>319628350
>you can't 1 shot in arena shooters too
>>319628350
That's more or less how Doom is going to play except with laser and plasma guns rather than bullets. Not to mention that a game having a military theme says nothing about how it's going to play and we're just using one of the generic military shooters as an example. Which is also sad because this generic military shooter plays better than the new Doom looks like it does.
>>319628373
That's CoD shit though. In arena games you have to move and shoot at the same time, you know, have skill and be a cool guy.
>>319628350
>bunnyhop down corridor
>"hey i think I-" get shot and die in 1 hit
Arena shooters in a nutshell.
>blizzard's new shekel maker that's an anime ripoff of tf2 is now an arena shooter
>>319628465
To do that in arena shooters takes skill, unlike your army games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYvnvYvL79M
>>319626347
> arena shooters will never come back
Good riddance.
>>319628693
>>319628439
Why do you think the genre is bad because of the autism of some of it's fans?
I mean, what's there to hate about
>fast and free movement + shooting mostly non-hitscan weapons
>>319626347
>devs make shitty casual mediocre games
>we need to support this or it'll die!
good let this trash die.
THEN.
LET.
THEM.
DIE.
>>319628539
Yeah if you suck. A good player it would go more like this:
>bunnyhop down corridor
>"hey i think I-" get shot at a few times but avoid most of the hits
>"Shit, I better watch myself"
>finds the safest route to get to the teleporter in the basement that will take him to the rooftop where the laser plasma rifle is
>hunts down the enemy with the rifle, firing off successive shots leading the enemy, followed by a pulse blast to detonate the them
>the enemy tries to dodge each blast
>switch to rocket launcher and fire off a round, forcing them to dodge it, causing them to get hit by the other blasts
That is an arena shooter.
Doom and Overwatch are not arena shooters. Unreal doesn't stand a chance because they are being stupid with monetizing it.
>>319626347
>Overwatch, Doom 4
I puked.
>Support Overwatch
Bitch I'd rather throw 50 bucks at fucking Taito for giving me Chronicle Saviors.
Damn. Blizzard don't need support. FPS's can go die. Please die. As long as they're multiplayer focused, they can all die.
I have my glorious nippon Monster Hunter X. FPS's can suck it
>>319628439
I think ut4 has a pretty good chance at becoming popular. it has an established player base from ut and ironically it's now a novelty in this day and age. People are bound to get bored of csgo and mobas soon enough.
>>319628765
Having to bind shooting and jumping on the same key, for example.
>>319628790
And let CoD and BF win? Fuck no.
>>319628816
Overwatch is close enough, and Unreal will be fine if we support it. I have a suspicion for all the bluster, there's a lot on /v/ who actually buy and play shit like CoD, which i find highly disturbing. It's like sleeping with the fucking enemy.
>>319626962
>And there's no shortage of cartoon FPS now thanks to manchildren.
>Haven't played a good one since XIII
Sigh.
>>319626825
>not having the best of both world
I played on A2 for years, that doesn't stop me from enjoying UT4.
Battlefront plays enough like an arena shooter for my taste.
>>319628616
>Toxikk
Good one, posting a dead game that should have had its map editor by now, but died because it was shit.
Niiice
>>319628902
You don't have to do that, especially in something like Quake, for UT kinda do, less focus on weapon assisted movement. But what's the issue with that, I mean moving + aiming at the same time is the main allure of the genre. It makes both things harder and raises the skill floor and ceiling.
>>319626347
deathmatch at it's core is a shallow, relatively unrewarding game mode. Adding in flashy graphics, or lame objectives (overwatch) isn't going to extend the replayability for long.
Battlefront 3 is already a dead game
Overwatch will be dead on arrival
Doom, Wolfenstein, Unreal are all beloved, but too aged.
Ask yourself why pong isn't an esport?
>>319628872
Yeah and if arena shooters get support, we may see the Japanese start making some.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJuFDKbr_oM
NewDoom and Overwatch are arena shooters now?
>>319629029
No. It. Fucking. Doesn't. You. Goddamn. EA. SHILL.
>>319629045
Toxikk isn't dead.
>>319627209
So with the demon rune pickup, Is it just the revenant that it morphs you into or can you become a hellknight or arachnotron as well?
>>319626347
Overwatch will be dead by the time it gets actually released.
>>319629114
How the fuck is deathmatch shallow but tacticool army shit isn't? Running down corridors and instant killing people who can't see you is skill now?
>>319629117
>Gunslinger Stratos Reloaded
Shitty third person shooter that fails to capture the magic of the Gunslinger Stratos arcade machine, which is basically dual-wield Time Crisis: The Japan Arcade.
Not selling me, senpai.I mean fuck, Loadout died like a bitch on PC. That was the pinnacle of fun.
>>319629045
Toxikk had no chance the moment UT4 became available. They should have done more than just make a 1:1 ut clone but with less interesting weapons.
or at least add bombing run the best game mode ever
>>319629234
>blizzard game
>dead
Yeah they said that about WoW, it sure is dead lololol
>>319629114
>Unreal
>too aged
wut m8
>deathmatch at it's core is a shallow, relatively unrewarding game mode.
>unrewarding
Looks like the never knew the feeling of being first on the leaderboard
>>319626347
>DOOM 4
>arena shooter
are you fucking retarded?
>>319629354
It is dying though. HOTS is also dead on arrival.
>>319626347
>If we don't, the genre is as good as dead
Good.
>>319629191
Yeah, the right term is "abortion", it was never really alive to begin with.
>>319629375
>the
you*
Especially when playing against good players and that the competition is tight.
>>319626347
What makes arena shooters any better than CoD or any of that shit? It's all FPS.
>>319629375
He doesn't, he just plays military shit and sponges victories off his superior teammates, like xnarutoSasukex, XDARKxSONICX, and Blazin420AllDay
>>319629319
Does Bombing Run exist in UT4Free?
>>319629375
Not the guy you're talking to, but this. I don't win things unless it's me versus AI. The AI can be super difficult, but multiplayer...nope.
>>319629354
>WoW
It's in the worst state right now than it has ever been.
>>319629465
The movement? The fast paced adrenaline rush filled gameplay? The exotic and creative weaponry? The creatively designed and intricate maps? The skill? Asking what makes arena shooters better than army shooters is like asking what makes a small tight pussy better than a huge loose one.
>>319629470
People don't play FPS for skill you autist. They like them for instant gratification. For the chance to FEEL amazing.
>>319629465
Arena shooters are fast paced, Overwatch and Doom aren't though.
The Doom alpha sucked. Single player will most likely be fun, but the multiplayer was the definition of bland, generic, and forgettable.
>>319629560
Overwatch won't die. Genji alone will get tons of new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0QEwZ9_1kQ
Who the fuck would want to play some boring white or black army guy with a generic assault rifle, over a fucking cyber ninja?
What is the purpose of these threads?
>>319626347
You want [genre] to make a comeback? Well you need to shill the fuck out of that shit like a cheap whore everywhere you can all over the internet, or else [genre] will die and we'll be stuck with [shitty alternative]!
Whatever it was, it's already long dead.
>>319629594
You just described a good 3rd person game. Which surpasses the entertainment value of any FPS any day of the week.
>>319629618
You described military fps, arena isn't like that.
And I count tps too, but sadly the only tps I know of is gears of shit, which is just CoD with chainsaw guns.
>>319629694
For arena shooter fans to try and flaunt their sense of superiority and wish that the genre wasn't dead despite them not supporting any of the games that even try to revive the genre.
>>319629541
nah. ut4 is to focused on trying to be like ut1 to haven any mode thats not fucking boring.
>supporting blizzshit
>supporting betheshit
i'd rather not. i still play ut occasionally which is a good game though. besides, didn't betheshit say doom 4 won't focus on multiplayer?
>>319629594
Dying in one hit / Dying while gunning at someone for over 5 seconds and they hit you once is just dying while gunning at someone for 5 seconds and they hit you once.
Doesn't matter if it's in space, in a sewer, in 2fort, Compound, Skedar, Fortress, what have you.
It's the same boring game with the same fundimental problem of "one person's going to pull off ahead, and there's nothing you can do."Unless it's Jaykin Bacon.
>>319629594
>Asking what makes arena shooters better than army shooters is like asking what makes a small tight pussy better than a huge loose one.
God dammit I love /v/. For all the shitposts and memes there are still quality comments like these. Props man.
>>319629694
Quake and UT fanboys crying that shooters have evolved and gotten better than the basic games they grew up with because nostalgia goggles
Multiplayer games aren't real games.
story > gaymeplay
>>319626347
yeah i can tell that's you again. the guy who loves xeno things and has a love for aliens on steam. i remember you 7 years ago on skulltag and the way you talk. you said the same thing about the game Evolve
>>319629760
>You described military fps, arena isn't like that.
And?
My point was that arena FPS are dead for a reason. Nobody wants to play those games. The vast majority want fun insta kill FPS games.
>>319629767
I wonder what games they even play? They never seem to say what FPS they are currently playing. They never try to get people together to play. Which is why i say they are shitposters.
"Hey let's support a shitty game to show the industry our demand for good games!"
>>319629781
Then fuck it. Free Shadow Complex though. Pretty based.
>>319629690
Overwatch put on sale for 9.99 = it lives.
The moment they announced it was buy to own and shook like fucking leaves on an earthquake site when asked about if post-purchase heroes were buy to play when newly introduced did two things:
>Killed hype
>Killed Twitch views. Shot down from 10,000 to like 1,000 in a fucking day, and sits around there, if not lower.
>>319629594
Minus the intricate/creative maps..
>Double Action: Boogaloo?
MOBas > FPSshits
do fps have skillshots???
i dont think so . . .
If D44m is indicative of 'arena' shooters...
>>319629541
>I don't win things unless it's me versus AI.
unironically: gitgud.
It takes some concentration and put your reflex to test but its not impossible.
I never player more than 3 games in a row, my hands are tired after that.
>>319626347
>we need to support these bad games so that people will make good games
I don't understand this logic.
>>319630030
Yeah selling Overwatch for $40 was a dumb as hell idea.
>>319629690
By letting streamers into 'alpha', they're burning through the hype way too early before release. Hots met the same fate and it's half dead right now despite the fact that it's f2p. And with overwatch it'll be worse because it costs $40(60).
>>319629375
maybe you guys are young and haven't had your fill of generic shooters yet.
back in my day, fps were played in person. no internet, no leaderboards just that awkwardness when you dominated your friends and got bored or were the one dominated and had to pretend that you enjoyed getting wrecked..
Anyways, do what you want, just letting you know that most people who grew up with those franchises has better shit to do these days, like jobs and families. Those of us who do play will just run a quake 3 server. no need to buy a completely new shooter.
Those who are young enough to no-life a shooter online might give a nod towards UT or Overwatch and then go back to betting skins in CS:GO or playing CoD.
>>319626347
I think that video games have been hijacked by totalitarian liberals trying to use gaming media for exaggerated human rights propaganda. There will be more games with story that has representations of women and minorities with some basic game-play attached to it as after thoughts.
PC gaming in the other hand will give people a chance to play fun games and old games. I also thing this is why so many people are starting to come over to pc gaming because the games are a lot more diverse in terms of gameplay genres.
>>319629835
have you even played the game? There's only a couple weapons that can instantly kill youif you didn't pick up extra health or armorand they're usually fairly easy tododge
>>319630230
>buy
I know this is bait but UT4 is free m8.
>supporting FUCKING BLIZZARD's 20 tick shooter
>supporting DOOM 4, which has slower movement than fucking Black Ops 3
>Supporting an Unreal Tournament game without Cliffy B
OP, you have not played enough shooters
Be happy that Uncharted 4 and Call of Duty are implementing new vertical movement mechanics
>>319630251
You should stop tunnel visioning on Gone Home and walking simulators.
For every game with a gay in it, theres 50 normal games.
>>319630418
Not tunnel visioning, there will be more games like that in the future.
>>319630312
>have you even played the game?
If -it- is Toxikk? I've played a bit of it at a friend's place, but don't own it because I keep hearing of a dwindling playerbase.
I already made that mistake with Strike Vector. Not making it again.
>>319630154
>Unironically, git gud
HOW TO GIT GUD WHEN EVERYONE IS BETTER THAN ME AND NO SKILL-BASED MATCHMAKING? It's literally impossible.And I'm about to make another autistic journey into fighting games. Might make me quit em' for good if this doesn't work out...
>>319629930
How did shooters evolve since Quake and UT? What have CoD, Halo, BF, and Gears contributed to the genre?
>>319630631
With SFV on the horizon there'll be loads of newbies to fight against.
>>319630667
>What have CoD, Halo, BF, and Gears contributed to the genre?Revenue from consoles.
>>319630175
We need to support the kind of games we like so devs make more, but better. They need to see the demand for the genre.
>>319629690
blizzard has made, and continues to make top notch esports.
overwatch in its current state is not going to be competitive
non-competitive blizzard games die
(diablo,warcraft,WoW)
Maybe you like the stylized art and everything which is great. The thing to remember is that most people here are outside the age range that game companies are targeting. What kind of people play CoD? CS:GO? Mostly 20 and under. For many as well, PC games are not accessible. Playing a game like overwatch with a controller will make you want to kill yourself, literally.
>>319630712I'm choosing Xrd because I absolutely hate all Street Fighter content past 3s, and I didn't fare well either, playing that. It was at least doable by comparison, though.Xrd's cheaper on PC too..fuck.
>>319630631
>NO SKILL-BASED MATCHMAKING
There is on UT4.
The more you play UT4, the more you "level up" (and unlock cosmetic things) and you can't go in noob rooms past level 10/15 or something iirc.
>>319630730
Why would they make better games?
>>319630730
I think devs will just make more games, exactly the same, because "better" is subjective and risk involved with changing something is too great for many of these failing companies to take on, so they continue making derivative, outdated garbage.
>>319630712
Sure. On consoles. For a week at best. SV is one hell of a one trick pony, it's shallow to a ridicolous extent. Fuck those kids on adderall that as soon as they see a rapidly moving screen they imply it's a good game.
>>319627783
This actually looks like a lot of fun.still pouring hours into rainbow six though. Anyone who think it's tactical at all hasn't really played it.
>>319630412
>>Supporting an Unreal Tournament game without Cliffy B
Then support Lawbreakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2HqzhHvaqE
And sorry, but slow ass climbing upwards on a wall is NOT vertical movement in a shooter. Rocket jumping is.
Don't forget Reflex guys! It's an amazing CPMA style arena shooter.
>>319630667
>public matchmaking
>in-game parties
>easy to play on a controller
>horde mode
>easy custom maps
>zombies mode
At least Gears takes some sort of skill. It has power weapons, wallbouncing, weaponsliding, instagibs, fast movement and other shit that makes it feel like an old arena shooter
>>319630830
Xrd having been on console for so long and being a lot more niche isn't going to help, sadly. But hopefully people will keep playing it.
>>319630890
We'll see when it's actually released. I hope they learned something and won't make another SFxT.
>>319630967
Those graphics look like fucking dogshit..
you cant have arena shooters these days cause all the modern gamers can't handle the pace with their superior controllers and fuckiing sticks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJN1VvfHO4M
>>319630973
>easy to play on a controller
>evolution of the genre
Fuck no. And Gears is shallow as fuck with shit art direction. Nothing but grey everywhere and hideous character designs. Makes it hard to even tell wtf is going on.
>>319630932
>Fast paced FPS with...
>Nathan Spencer's girlfriend who has cum-worthy mechanics on her own.
>JETPACK DEADEYE JOE
>GENERIC BLACK GUNNER
>KRAKEN-HEAD BANE
Okay, where's the catch!
>Coming 2016.
Okay
>Nexon of America
PAY 2 WIN SHIT INCOMING.
HOLY FUCK THEY DROPPED DIRTY BOMB PRETTY FUCKING QUICK
>>319630973
>Shoot someone in the ass with a shotgun
>Head explodes.
Kek. Gears 1.
>>319631056A lot of people I know are getting it, so I'll at least have friends to spar with, which is more than I can say for quite a few FPS's.
>>319631226
GitS:FA is going to early access on the 14th if you want to drive yourself even angrier.
Red Orchestra 2 or UT4
Help me choose.
>>319631056
Strike Vector, not Street Fighter, dumbass. We are talking of point and click twitchy adventures in this thread, not button mashers.
>>319630667
Rainbow Six
>Tactics
>Teamwork
>Communication
>Cooperation
>Realism
>Immersion
>Planning
>Coordination
>Execution
>Tension
>>319626347
people who shilled buying anything and everything dragon warrior was laughably retarded. OP is definitely bait but still there are people genuinely like this.
If you actually want to support games that you like you buy them. its a meritocracy. you dont buy pieces of shit like doom 4 because thats what they will make from then on.
>>319631392
why not both?
>>319631153
>shallow as fuck
Fuck no
There's a sense of map control and you really have to learn how to use your movement to your advantage
It's not the boring cover-based shooter that you think the singleplayer campaign or Uncharted is
https://youtu.be/paX6-nzeZgo?t=41s
>Shit art direction
>hideous character design
Gears has pretty graphics though.
Gears 3 is full of color
Gears 1 has an artistic style like a metal album, which adds to the atmosphere.
The locust are nice looking enemies too
>>319631363
I'm so readyTO BE PISSED
>>319631618
I can't play both at the same time anon.
I'm not that good yet.
>>319631062
Those 30-some year old millennials that grew up with that dreg and try to relive them while their kids that really don't resemble them play shit on a smartphone don't need stinking graphics. It makes them feel old.
>>319626347
>support Overwatch
>you want to kill CoD an-
>kill CoD
>console seller
>Activision
>Blizzvision
>killing CoD
>buy this game that supports the same publishers as CoD
OP is full retard.
>support Doom 3.5
>support Activision's TF2's clone
>support an unfinished game that's gonna be a platform for paid mods
/v/ has truly turned to absolute shit lately.
>>319631667
get footpedals, pleb
>>319631907
That's not how it works though, you dumb nigger. You support games you like so the publisher sees where's the money at. It doesn't matter if they publish/develop some shit you don't like, just don't buy it. What's funny is:
>you want to kill CoD
>buy this slow paced casual friendly console multiplayer first person shooter
>>319630412
>Cliffy B
He was the one who killed the UT series with UT3.
He had no real involvement with the original games.
>>319626347
>kill the BF series
No I don't want that. Thank you.
>>319632271
>support an unfinished game
Well of course it's unfinished ,it's in development.
>want to play again after weeks
>2.4GB update
>>319632349
>killed the UT series with UT3
Nope, he was not involved with that shit
>>319632446
I'm not wanting to kill Battlefield until I get my rerelease of 2142
>>319632446
So you admit you're cancer killing gaming? Fucking westaboo.
>>319627209
Again, can't tell anything about gameplay because it's done to show off. If they got 2 pro or ex-pro Quake or UT players to duel and recorded that, you could have a better picture of what it looks like. This looks like they try to hide something.
>>319632557
Get on with the times, grandpa.
>>319632549
>no 2143 with fucking mechas and orbital drop everywhere
>>319632743
2143 is worse than 2 in every way.
Arena shooters get so fucking stale though.
It's always 1 gamemode that anyone plays, and like 2 maps, over and over and over.
Fuck arena shooters.
Just have 1 be semi-popular so I can jump in once or twice a year when I get the feels for it.
The rest can go bankrupt and die.
>>319632743
EA's hesitant to release a good Star Wars: Battlefront game.
Do you really think they'd do 2143 proper? Stick with 2142
>Overwatch
>24 tick TF2 moba shit
>Doom 4
>Brown and bloom slow as fuck shit
I dont want to kill the Battlefield or CoD Series. CoD is more fast paced than Doom 4 will ever be in its current state, fuck id even say Battlefield is as well, but Battlefield is more based around good teamwork and squad combat.
Unreal 4 blows them all out of the water though, shits great.
>>319627209
>That
>Fast
Come the fuck on anon, the run speed is like 10.
Those games don't support proper AntiAliasing methods let alone SGSSAA.
Those games shouldn't be supported at all because that would only enable developers to continue with this horrible fad of shader based anti aliasing methods which are only harmful in the long run.
Even Call of Duty games can do proper AA, those developers have zero excuses.
>>319632902
>TF2 Moba shit
The Warcraft 3 Source servers are better TF2 moba shit than that
>>319632838
Does it even exist ?
2142 was nice in its own way.
But I think it's dead by now.
were people even still playing 2142 by the time they fixed it so moving a titan wouldnt lag the server terribly
>>319632983
Graphics don't mean shit.
>>319626347
>Overwatch
>>319632983
SGSSAA doesn't work in anything other than DX9 entirely through the fault of Nvidia because they choose not to update it. Also sgssaa introduces blur every once in a while and yet you're saying it's so much better than fxaa.
If you can change your resolution you can downsample from 4k if you want but most games you're going to get shit framerate doing that.
And Wolfenstein TNO had msaa but Doom is on idtech6 and not 5 so I don't know if it will.
>>319633107
Yes.
>>319626347
? No we fucking don't. If we want to support arena shooters, how about actually going for an arena shooter. The new unreal tournament looks really fucking good.
Unrealtournament . com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DANV462ldRU
>>319633215
Holy shit stop talking about a subject you have zero idea.
>SGSSAA doesn't work in anything other than DX9 entirely through the fault of Nvidia because they choose not to update it.
SGSSAA was never official supported by Nvidia to begin with.
>SGSSAA doesn't work in anything other than DX9
SGSSAA can work in anything if the engine developer desires it.
>Also sgssaa introduces blur every once in a while
Which is caused by postprocessing shaders effects which if done by the developer could be avoided.
>If you can change your resolution you can downsample from 4k
just by design SGSSAA is superior to downsampling, it is even in the fucking game "SPARSE GIRD supersampling"
>>319633426
>The new unreal tournament looks really fucking good
It's the most classic style of FPS, hard to fuck up.
It would be like fucking up pastas.
Yet Bethesda managed to fuck up with Doom 4.
>>319633426
>download Epics launcher
>yeah I need another one of these
>let's check out the games:
>beta
>alpha
>pre-alpha
>free nearly 7 year old Xbox 360 game
A stunning lineup.
>>319626347
I'm sure everyone called you a faggot already but
>Overwatch
It's not a shooter worth cherishing, new-age garbage, in addition to that it's multiplayer. Multiplayer shooters never went anywhere.
>Doom 4
Have you seen trailers? It will obviously be modern crap
>Unreal 4
lol
>>319626987
I would've loved the Hellhate-like setting, it's a crying shame they dropped it.
>>319633905
SGSSAA != ssaa. SGSSAA is something created by Nvidia and only works on Nvidia cards. And only works on DX9 games because Nvidia hasn't updated it in forever.
Go read the article on sgssaa at naturalviolence
This site says it works with any API but I've never been able to get it working with DX10 or 11 while lowering games that have those and DX9 to DX9 made it work.
>>319634153
>>Unreal 4
>lol
What's so funny?
It's good for what it is at the moment.
All those games are shit in comparison to a FREE TO PLAY unreal tournament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytviLdEIuSQ
>>319634231
jesus christ shut up already you dumb fucker, sgssaa is transparency msaa applied to the whole screen which was nothing more than a mistake it was never meant to be a feature and isn't exclusive to nvidia cards, amd also has the equivalent although it used ordered grid.
>>319634305
It's not Unreal 4.
>>319626347
I don't want arena shooters, I want single player FPS games like Blood, Duke, DOOM and Painkiller to make a comeback
>>319634380
Well, I'd like to say, how can Unreal be real uh.
Checkmate.
>>319629690
*unsheathes katana*
>>319634360
I love how you're telling me to stop talking about things while you're spouting bullshit. Sparse grid and ordered grid are different things and Nvidia has both. Sparse grid is only on Nvidia cards. Both of these are different from standard supersampling and downsampling.
>Overwatch
>arena shooter
next you're gonna tell me Team Fortress 2 is an arena shooter
>>319626347
>Overwatch
Nah
>Halo Clone
Nope.
>Unreal 4
Might try.
>totally not subtle bethesda shilling
it's literally a fanatic religion at this point. You even have your devils and your holy knights.
>>319626690
they wasted their fantastic movement system on what is literally a carbon copy of call of duty. If they ever make a shooter that actually utilizes the movement in combat, I might give them a chance.
>>319626825
>le 25 fps alpha without vehicles that can't even handle 100 players without the server crashing
>>319628950
Dude BO3s campaign was bananas and zombies with a few of your closest friends is the shit stop trying to be so "hardcore" all the time.
>>319634537
sigh you are really dumb you know?
To begin with why are you arguing about ordered grid and sparse grid? one is used by nvidia too and the other by amd too, you say sgsssaa was limited to nvidia cards which it isnt as I have already proved you wrong.
also I don't know why are you bringing supersampling and downsampling into this conversation I think you are confused.
to add to that there is no reason for nvidia to update sgssaa as this is something developers have to do as modern games use deferred shader based engines, which could easily do sgssaa if the developer wanted, this has nothing to do with nvidia.
...or i can just buy the ff7 remake :^)
>>319627783
>real shooter
>half the time spent swinging
Ok
>>319634982
>not kikestarting psychonauts 2
"Arena shooter" fans are basically the dudebro retards that are worse than the "dudebros" they trash talk about that play any other game.
Actual video game fans that liked arena shooters for being solid shooters recognise that those faggots are the pure refined form of 360 no scopes and achievement whores that want nothing but MVP all day.
When you think of the genre outside of boring 1v1 duels (a more boring version of playing a fighting game) Monday Night Combat was the best Arena Shooter because it upgraded team games with Dota elements, and it still suffered various issues like no content and snipers shitting on everything from a competitive level to the point it was easy to spawn camp.
Arena shooters are dead bruh.
They died nearly two decades ago.
They were killed by Goldeneye 64 and CounterStrike.
If they want those games to flourish then they're going to have to build some team play or at the very least allow for customization of play.
Running around a map killing each other is fun up to a point, then it's just an exercise in frustration and you don't want to play it anymore.
I mean...if you don't like the FEEL of the game and just getting your shit slapped 24/7 doesn't work for you then you're going to say fuck this shit and go find something else to play. Arena shooters really honestly only survived because there was basically nothing like it at the time.
When team based gameplay like Counterstrike allowed people to team up with other players and have a tactical real battle where all of their talents were put to play and Goldeneye brought the FPS to the consoles...arena shooters time was up.
>doom 4
KEK
