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Has anybody figured out why video games don't come with manuals anymore?
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>>319586336
Senran Kagura Estival Versus came with one, 43 pages full colored.
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>>319586336
To become more environmentally friendly. Same reason cases started becoming smaller and using biodegradable plastic, and even cutting out inner-plastic.

It's cheaper, too. Jews, etc
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It's a mix between money and the growth of digital media.
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>>319586336
Budget cuts, that's literally it.
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Modern kids can only use automatic.
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Amerifats can't read.
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Is it really a mystery? Cutting costs through green washing. It's the same reason they started cutting holes in game cases too. To be fair, though, a lot of manuals are completely useless.
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>>319586336
Most people only read them for the instructions. Since they all just show the controls even random trivia on a loading screen like Bethesda, the need for a manual is a business expense that can be cut.
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They say it's to "save paper" but it's really because nobody looks at it anyway, so it's a waste of the half a cent or whatever it costs to print it.
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And lets face it, do we really need an instruction manual with the internet around and the fact most games have tutorials/in game instructions anyway?
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>>319587439
>And lets face it, do we really need an instruction manual with the internet around
Yes. I don't have the internet and never will.
though don't go overboard like with Baulder's Gate Shadows of Amn and have a 150 page book.
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>>319587651
>I don't have the internet and never will.

ya me neither
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>>319586336
time and money to put together
time and money to approve
money to print
negligible effect on sales
physical copies of indivisible are going to come with a sweet manual with a bunch of artwork in it.
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Manuals used to have backstory for the game and explained the control to you.
Now we have cutscenes and tutorials.
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>>319586336
Because less and less people want to read.Really most changes nowadays are about reducing the possibility of critical thoughts to minimum.
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>>319588184
>artwork
>video games
>art
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>>319587783
>>319587651
>posting this statement on 4chan
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>>319588285
>Because less and less people want to read.
This explains Fallout 4.
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>>319588184
>time and money to put together
>time and money to approve
Digital manuals exist. They still make them just dont print them.
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Yeah, who needs the internet. I want to drive half an hour to a gaming specialty shop and get a large PHYSICAL BOX full of DVDs (not Blu-Rays, I refuse to buy them) that has the FULL GAME on them. I want to go to the 8th word on page 11 and enter it in to get past the ownership check screen. Those were the days.
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>bought Story of Season published by Xseed a while back
>full color manual
>english language only
>game case even has a reversible cover

Some people still get it right.
It's mostly done to cut down on overhead from physical production.
Why they choose that when there's much better ways to save money is beyond me but whatever.
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>>319588730
Are you being a silly right now? It's like you want the thieves to win. Don't share that diskette with your pals. I know you think you're being a real stand up fella, but you have to look ahead into the forward. Bullfrog went bankrupt because only one person bought Theme Park and just kept giving it out to other people.
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>>319588902
I can make as many copies as I want. I BOUGHT IT.
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>>319586336
In-game tutorials and the internet, also it's cheaper.
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>>319587651
same senpai
i dont even own a computer
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>>319586336
How old is Sue anyway? I always found her to be extremely hot, but I think she was 14 or 15 in the game. I also remember she became much older in the ending I think, like in her 20s
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>>319589261
Nope, she's 8, possibly 9 by the end of the first disc. I always crushed on her too. She'd be 18/19 after the 10 year adventure and Justin/Feena would be 25 and 26.
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>>319588892
Xseed is pretty GOAT.
That fucking banana split edition of Onechanbara man.
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>>319586336

Developers initially got rid of manuals to increase profits. Since the last two gens, game development costs have skyrocketed but prices and profits stayed the same.

After removing the manuals, a very small percentage of people noticed or cared. So they stopped doing it for most games.

Also, because of an increasing shift to digital media, manuals are usually just put into the game.
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Do physical Blizzard games still come with manuals with hundreds of pages of backstory?
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Cost-cutting, even though printing millions of copies of a game is cheap as hell, companies wanted to maximize their profits so that more of the $60 pricetag goes into their pockets.
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>>319590325
I would like xseed if they wouldn't try to localize fucking everything and their release dates suffer as a result. Fucking EDF was supposed to come out in september and it only now released. EV was due to winter 2015 and it has a release date for march now.
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I rationalized their loss by thinking in the great scheme of things, they're pretty useless.

Then, I bought shovel knight for wii u and its sweet-ass manual.
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>>319590757
>March

Fuck everything, especially those god damn grindy as shit bug genocide simulators.
I want my tiddy ninjas.
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>>319586882
Paper is biodegradable you fucking retard
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>>319587398
BUUUUUUUUUUULLSHIT. One if the best things of getting a new game was reading the bits of lore in the manual, and the art. Especially while taking a huge shit.
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Let's face it, the only reason the manual existed was to read on the way home and then never use the "notes" section in the back.
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Quick!
Post some games with GOAT manuals.

Pic related.
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>>319591194
>then never use the "notes" section in the back.
but... what if I use up all the space and then I need it later!
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>>319590985
he never implied it wasnt you colossal retard fuckwit

cutting down trees is not environmentally friendly

>a bloo bloo but he said for the same reason as biodegradable plastics

the same reason being that theyre more environmentally friendly

BTFO now fuck off and shitpost somewhere else
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>birthday or christmas
>have money
>want video game
>have a gameboy pocket
>mom finally agrees to go to wal mart to look at games
>pick out zelda link's awakening because liked the SNES game
>excited and want to get home to play it
>mom never lets me bring my game boy out of the house because "it's too expensive something might happen you might lose it"
>she spends an hour shopping and trying on clothes
>won't let me open the game in the store
>finally get to the car
>rip it open and read
>we do more errands i don't think we actually have to do mom just likes watching me squirm

The worst was when it wasn't a holiday or something so you get home, and she's all "only an hour then you have to do your homework" or some bullshit. I never deserved that crap, I did my work right after school and kept my grades up by myself because I knew they'd take away my games and make me play outside.
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>>319590985
Those Atari landfill cartridges and manuals were still in quite good condition. The idea is to not make as much waste for most of the kids who will throw out the box and manual in minutes.
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>>319591319
I don't remember this one, though I did have it. No PS2 manuals stand out to me.
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>>319591913
Doesn't rain that much in the desert
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>>319586336
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
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>>319590757
Their release dates suffered even before getting the Marvelous AQL money.
Wild Arms 4 and 5 went through pushback hell, Sony wasn't exactly much help in getting people in to help get a game they own published.
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>>319592256
That never crossed my mind. You gay, son? Your boner getting a chubby erection?
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>>319586336
>Mogay
kek
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>>319586336
They come with a manual to tell you where to find the in-game manual.
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>>319586336
are you fucking serious OP?
look at all the games that have fucking tutorials nowadays and they teach you EVERY LITTLE THING about; moving forward, moving left/right, moving backwards, moving and aiming, moving and shooting WHILE aiming, how to access the dlc menu to buy more dlc, etc etc

that is why
also, jews, money, costs etc etc everything else in this thread

only niche games or special editions come with physical manuals now anon.
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>>319591529
If only wood was a renewable resource...
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>Your son will never experience the hype of opening the case and reading the manual on the way home
Might as well mercy kill him desu
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>>319592335
hes bandwagoning from the other thread
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>>319586336

Did this question really warrant a thread. It's just one answer. Budget cuts. Get it? Great. Next thread please
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>>319591529
>cutting down trees is not environmentally friendly
Yes it is. Anything we use wood for is actually farmed by us. We're not cutting down the rain forest for video game manuals, people have developed actual tree farms that has covered our paper issues for decades.
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>>319586336
Because they realized they can charge you more for one in an "artbook".
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>>319592645
jesus christ youre stupid

and what, nobody in the world is starving because food is renewable and literally grows on trees?
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>>319592197

As someone who lives in southern california, it actually rains more in the desert than on the coast or valleys. Thanks to fucking stupid pressure systems being pushed into the desert by the mountains.

The water just doesn't stay in the ground.
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>>319592814
>cutting down trees is environmentally friendly

oh god i forgot where i am stay inside and watch your japanese childrens cartoons goddamn
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>>319586336
It's way cheaper to not have them.
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Surely I couldn't have been the only one who thought Justin was a girl based on just looking at Grandia's cover.
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>sexist portrayals of women and minorities in video games
>people are worried about little pieces of paper that don't need to exist because everything they say is in the game already
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I bought Shovel Knight on the 3ds recently, and was pleasantly surprised by the manual it came with. Lots of info on relics, side-characters, plot, etc. They did a good job.
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>>319592994
I never thought I'd see an actual tree hugging piece of shit. I'll bet you don't care one iota about the "environment" when you're blazing up your reefer you fucking idiot.
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>>319588408
>hurr there's no way to obtain internet access outside of your house.

I use it at work, yes, but I will never ever let it be in my house.
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>>319593285
They should have put the effort into the game itself.
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>>319593248
They're only in the game because 'Why should I have to read when I can learn all I need to know while playing the game?"

Now it's "Why do these compulsory tutorials take up so much of the game I'd rather just read about it beforehand!"
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>>319592994

Cutting down previously planted trees and planting new ones. Ever hear of a tree farm?
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>>319586336
why should they bother putting together the information when the player base will populate wikies and guide forums themselves?
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>>319593483
your finger nails are filthy.
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SimAnt had the best manual ever
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Why do we act like games coming with colour manuals is such a good thing on this board? No one is going to read paragraphs of character backgrounds and control schemes before they play a videogame
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