So now that de_dust has settled, can we all agree this is a fun gun?
>>319585690
Is it really more unbalanced than the AWP
>>319585751
It costs 4000 dollars less than the awp and is as powerful as the awp, while having a spam option.
You tell me.
>>319585690
It's only fun because you can get cheap kills with it.
It will stop being fun when everyone and their dog will keep using it, which will turn the game into instagib fest.
Sounds like just the kind of weapon CSGO needed. It's about precision shooting now and dropping the RNG bullshit.
I might actually start getting into the game now.
Not even that good of a gun people are just retarded.
>>319587179
whoops forgot my webm
>>319587179
No, it's broken. You can easily do a running prefire with the 100% running accuracy while cocking. It's still really fun to play Wild West Shootout with it though, hopefully we get a custom gamemode we can host on servers.
But is Fistful of Frags a better revolver simulator?
>>319586002
>Because that never happens with the AWP.
>>319586154
this tbqh
>>319587347
Nah it's pretty inferior to other weapons in a lot of situations, mostly due to the shooting delay, and cocking has less accuracy than just holding LMB
>>319587347
That fucking delay though. It'll leave you open as fuck.
>>319587731
>the bobbing while running
absolutely fucking disgusting anon what the fuck
>>319587347
It's a scrub destroyer, but if you're gonna stand still for a whole second, high level players will just headshoot you
>>319587293
Are all CS:GO players left handed?
>>319587761
The 100% accuracy and ability to 1-2shot at long range is completely broken. Much of CS:GO's difficulty comes from controlling weapon inaccuracy after moving/spraying - a weapon that takes away both these troubles levels the playing field considerably (which is actually a semi-good thing, as it'll outshine other weapons in lower skill environments). It still remains useful even at the highest level I imagine, as predicting your enemy's position comes much more easily and just boils down to executing that one good shot, which this weapon makes even easier.
However, the fact that it breaks the game's economy is unforgivable and detrimental to it's enjoyment.
>>319586154
The thing you don't realize is that this gun is pretty much a RNG bullshit gun, since everyone will only use the RMB on it. The RMB just kinda goes in the general direction of where you're shooting so if you're lucky you can just instagib everyone.
Not to mention they made all the rifles RNG-machines aswell.
>>319585690
They made this OP just to cause commotion and draw attention to their shitty collection op bugs they call a game.
>>319588375
>The thing you don't realize is that this gun is pretty much a RNG bullshit gun, since everyone will only use the RMB on it.
Completely wrong at every distance besides close range (less than 2 meters) or when rushing into very tight spaces as a desperation attack. See above as to why.
>>319587731
>doesn't know how to use the gun
>also posts proof that he doesn't know how to use the gun
>hurr it sucks
>cocking has less accuracy than just holding LMB
>spouting buzzwords without knowing what they means
good shitpost sir
>>319588375
Nigga it's the only gun that ISN'T RNG bullshit, when you press left mouse.
>>319588656
Dude this gun is made for killing toddlers who don't know how to walk or aim it's not that good
>>319588657
Thorin sums this entire gun up perfectly, and why it shouldn't be in the game at all.
https://youtu.be/8BHLq-NvlHg?t=942
>>319586154
The gun is still RNG. I hit a guy in the gut for 74. Another I headshotted for 98. One time I was shot through a box for over 100.
>>319585690
>So now that de_dust has settled10/10
>>319589009
You'd have to be mentally retarded to move the gun like that in real life anon, how on earth is that cinematic?
>>319588615
Speak for yourself lol, I've gotten frag after frag with the RMB at 10-15m distances easy peasy.
>>319589605
first day here friend?
>>319588156
Left handed models take up less screen real estate.
>>319585690
Fun? Yes.
Unbalanced? Yes.
Game-breaking? Yes.
But still fun. While it lasts.
>>319589605
Literal newfag. Fuck off.
>>319589773
That doesn't make sense.
>>319589715
lol yeah sorry xP
>>319589608
It moves more, which shoots adrenaline straight into my eyeballs, increasing accuracy by 10% and hype by 32%
>>319586154
Nah, they made the rifles and pistols more RNG.
Also right click on this gun is pure RNG.
They basically made CS:GO worse in every possible way, except for maybe with the pistols.
>>319585690
It's fun because it's unbalanced.And i'm enjoying it.
>>319587293
>using your rifle as a secondary
this is how you know you're playing a shit game
>>319589773
This is not even true
lmao just POINT AND CLICK
>>319589780
Can't argue with you there, because it is pretty fun. Still, kind of a dick move to do considering there's a big tournament tomorrow.
>>319585690
It's great. Now CS:GO feels like a point and click adventure game instead of a FPS.
Summary of update:
>mainline rifles are now even more RNG
>RIP first shot accuracy
>all pistols now have higher moving inaccuracy (this is good)
>people asked to make MM timers the same as comp timers so we just met them halfway lol
>added a new gun, the 850$ AWP. Right click is pure RNG. Left click is supposed to be delayed but we suck at coding so you can make it instant.
How does one drop the ball so hard?
They made the spread even MORE random for the M4/AK.
I don't even give a shit about the new pistol but they fucked up spraying badly.
>>319589569
what is distance
>>319589920
The revolver is one of the few guns that actual shoots where you point.
The patch that also brought the revolver in just fucked rifles by making them have a longer spray reset.
>>319590402
This is the real problem. Because when the R8 eventually gets nerfed to oblivion, this will remain unchanged.
>>319590363
Main rifles have less accuracy recovery not more RNG dummy, they just made spraying and burst fire less viable but 1-tapping is pretty much the same.
>>319588206
>safari mesh
>>319590402
To be fair if you compare this with what it was pre-update it's not thaaat different, but noticeably worse.
I think the whole point is that they want people to use the SG553/AUG for longer engagements by making the mainline rifles untenable for long range due to lolfirstshotaccuracy.
Which is fucking stupid, next they're going to try and make the M249 viable. The whole point of mastering those guns is being able to get that perfect spray at close/mid range, then perfect bursts/taps at mid/long range.
>>319590656
You can dink motherfuckers for 95 in the chest and they'll kill you at the same distance.
>>319590656
It's too bad my shots were within the OHK zone, same as the box one too.
>>319590718
M249 is viable though.
>>319590402
What am I supposed to be mad at, here? CSGO has always had RNG for sprays
>>319590693
From some guy who did some number crunching:
Rifles
Pre-update values are on the left, Post-update are on the right
AK-47
InaccuracyCrouch 4.81 -> 5.00
RecoveryTimeCrouch 0.381571 -> 0.45
RecoveryTimeStand 0.46 -> 0.60000
M4A4
RecoveryTimeCrouch .302625 -> 0.43
RecoveryTimeStand 0.423676 -> 0.525
M4A1-S
InaccuracyCrouchAlt 3.68 -> 4.10
RecoveryTimeCrouch 0.302625 -> 0.43
RecoveryTimeStand 0.423676 -> 0.525
tl;dr all rifles aside from M4A4 have nerfed first shot accuracy, aka more RNG. Recovery time has also been increased.
welp
no comp for me for the next however long it takes for them to nerf this
>>319590950
People have been asking for less RNG. Valve puts in more RNG.
>>319590402
Good, maybe now other rifles/other weapons will become viable.
Unless you're Legendary Eagle or above who fucking cares what weapon other people use? I saw some guy screaming bloody murder at one of our teammates because he bought a Mac 10 when he said to buy AKs. Ridiculous.
>>319588206
Okay, the filename was a good chuckle.
>>319585690
problem would be solved if cocking time were about doubled, with included....
>hold right click (shooting first round), tap left click to cock. stays cocked while holding right click. tap left click to fire without delay
>cocking weapon reveals your location and wastes 1 round as well as risking injuring teammates if you stay aimed at area of interest (ex: apartments on Mirage)
>one shot chance to get kill before weapon was unusable unless ^^^ were repeated
>>319591034
And yet, I was running around just minutes ago getting one taps like they were on sale. Most situations, you shouldn't be spraying.
>>319591145
>casual
Not caring about what weapons they are using is definition casual.
>>319585690
>more RNG
>fun
Valve doesn't have a single idea about what they're doing. The 3 CSGO devs needs to stop playing dota 2 and actually play CSGO for once. The reduce accuracy for the ak/m4 with all shooting styles (except for first shot, which wasn't changed) creates even more rng than before, and before it was pretty bad for a CS game
>>319587608
At least it takes more skill to use the AWP and its a shit load more cheaper
>>319591353
Not him, but who are you to tell someone what gun they should use. Maybe they're really fucking good with the Mac-10 or something like the Nova.
>>319591457
How's Gold Nova these days, scrub?
>>319591457
He's right though
>>319591353
>Casual
Yeah, actually. As long as they're not purposefully losing and attempt to play normally, why should you be mad? Do we scream at people for picking low tiers in fighting games? What about people who pick a more situational class over a class that's generally considered better?
It's a little badge next to your name that nobody gives a shit about unless you've got a truly impressive rank. Not like anybody here is high enough to see those ranks anyway. I'm fucking MG II and I sometimes go a round with all four of my teammates picking the Negev, and it's fun as hell.
>>319591570
You tell me? Nobody taps at a competitive level, not even Scream anymore.
>>319591617
But hes not.
>>319592015
>nobody taps at a competitive level
Here's your reply.
>>319589470
>30 minute video
no
Will it get nerfed or outright removed from the game? So many people in comp earlier were complaining about it.
I don't mind it though, pretty cool when you oneshot a mid awpwer on cache
>>319592124
I thought you were just some kid that just hit DMG and thinks hes god, but I don't think you even play this game.
4/10, had me going.
>>319592287
>nerfed
After about a week or two, after enough skins have sold and cases have been unboxed.
Then the prices will crash, and everyone will rush to buy a skin for "cheap," and they'll make a second boatload of money.
>removed
They have skins, they can't remove it.
It'll be like the CZ, except it just started out more broken.
>>319592287
No point to remove it when modellers and animators put work into. It'll just get nerfed
Please killurself this gun has destroyed the game and needs to be removed.
>>319592287
If I am to guess it will be damage close to the scout dishes out.
>>319592124
not him
I only tap with the AK and that's after firing off a spray of 10 rounds and the guy's not dead, and only at very, very long range.
With the M4 I fire off a spray of 10 rounds then a series of 2-3 round bursts, even at extreme range
The fact that each bullet is is RNG means that more bullets = more chances to hit, so I hardly ever tap.
I like the gun because I can pretend to be Ocelot
>>319592573
Who the fuck does 10 round bursts? Who tap shoots after bursting? What rank are you at where you aren't dead if you fuck up a 10 round burst?
>>319593008
Welcome to Silver.
It's not a 10 round burst, it's a 10 round spray if I see someone midrange. If he's not dead then I transition to 2-3 round bursts or single fast taps, depending on the gun.
I'm actually in MG, but that's because I got carried and I actually suck ass.
>>319591516
I am no one but the meta or the most optimal way to play is 100% the "person" to dictate play especially at higher rankings. Sure if rounds won/lost are against you fuck off and do w/e but if not then fuck you. You can't make all guns viable nor should you be playing MM if you don't intend to attempt to win, at the least.
>>319589920
>this is how you know you're playing a fun game
ftfy
>>319585690
It is very fun, but as great as it is to fan the hammer I would have preferred it if they went full tacticool with it.
Instead of fanning the hammer, you have a scope. The gun also has a longer barrel so that the slow draw speed and high accuracy makes sense.
If you wait between shots you will cock the hammer, increasing accuracy and removing the need to "charge" up the shot.
Instead of 8 bullets, you have 5. Most high-caliber revolvers only have room for 5 or 6.
For further realism, reloading early should drop unspent rounds. To make up for this, give more in reserve.
>>319593576
>low draw speed
That's already there. See:
>>319591617
I'm no weapons expert but if you reload all bullets look like they haven't been shot. You reload after two shots and every bullet in the breech looks the same. Shouldn't there be a hole in the middle of a bullet if it has been shot?
>>319593159
I don't consider 10 rounds really a spray, I've always used the m4 and the best way to do it is 2-4 rounds for long range you have a much higher chance of hitting them with that than with 10 rounds straight. At good ranks you will get immediately shit on if you stop to shoot 10 at an AK long range. Tap shoot, then burst, then the. "I fucked up better hope they do" spray and reload of shame. But now with the longer recoil reset bursting is so slow compared to tap shooting that it's all retarded. But not like it matters every ge/smfc game I play it's all just revolvers because if you hold a normal angle you get prefired hard.
>>319594174
Not a hole but an indentation on the primer of the cartridge.
>>319594174
Too much effort. It's similar on the CZ how if you shoot one shot, and reload you still have ammo in the reserve, but no extra mag. If you switch guns and then go back to the CZ, the mag is there despite it being dropped already.
>>319593552
I always report people for griefing that buy off the meta if they fuck up. Could care less about a global just scouting and deagling if they fuck shit up, it's annoying but they got their kills. But when someone always forces every round, gets no kills and rushes every round that's God damn griefing. Fucking ge/smfc is literally filled to the brim with silvers that don't know proper buys or anything and they are the ones that shit talk while bottom fragging it's so annoying.
>>319594025
I know that it's already there. I'm just saying give it a longer barrel to justify it.
>>319594252
>midrange
Only at midrange do I spray
Anything longer I do small bursts.
I only tap with the AK.
>>319585690
So...
They just fucked up the balance and somehow that's good?
Are you kids retarded?
>>319594389
>>319594464
It's just too obvious and hard to ignore. Kind of annoying.
>>319593576
It stopped being fun for me after my first casual match to try it out. MM was boring because there was no strategy we just rushed t side cache and went 12 to 3 then did the same CT side since even if you tried to rifle everyone else had a R8. It's not even fun to get kills with since it's so cheap and easy. 4k clutch with right click on b site cache sitting default where with any other gun I would have lost immediately. It's loses its novelty immediately for competitive play. Keep it in everything except competitive and I could care less about it being nerfed. Just don't make the deagle which is the only balanced pistol get replaced.
>>319594556
>I always report people for griefing that buy off the meta if they fuck up.
That's where I draw the line. I don't do that but I don't care if you do because I generally stick to the meta.
>Could care less about a global just scouting and deagling if they fuck shit up, it's annoying but they got their kills.
Agreed, I can generally shrug those off.
>But when someone always forces every round, gets no kills and rushes every round that's God damn griefing.
You are 100% in the right and I agree.
>Fucking ge/smfc is literally filled to the brim with silvers that don't know proper buys or anything and they are the ones that shit talk while bottom fragging it's so annoying.
Getting mad = losing so best thing I can say besides get gud is don't fall for it like a child, you know this anon.
>>319594826
I feel you but that is the majority of the game industry and movie industry when it comes to guns but it is sincerely and extremely slowly getting better (I guess).
>>319594601
Long barrel revolvers (6in) look fucking fantastic to me. Snub nose guns are fucking gay desu senpai
>>319594882
It's basically a railgun.
Apparently the P90 is a hard counter, as you can run and gun with it.
Any guns that require you to stop moving (read: rifles, and all the other pistols with the new update) kill you because they can line up a shot.
Just get a P90/Bizon, two flashbangs, and you're golden.
>>319594739
You said your a MG right? Learning to just do accurate short bursts will let you rip through people faster and easier than what you do. If you don't want to whatever I'm just saying it'll help you to do shorter bursts over longer ones even at midrange until you master the spray pattern. Now that there's more rng with the sprays it's far easier for the quick bursts. It resets faster the less you shoot. But I'm just auging and sg now since they didn't get raped as hard, Volvo wanted more people to use them and I'm more then happy to show them how fucking boring it is with them.
>>319595207
Different anon here, I dislike this new way of play already. At least is gives some viability to the shotgun so you can pick people off easily if they don't die from 1 shot of the revolver. I'd still rather go back to Tacticool GO versus Wild West (with SMGs) Go.
>>319595124
Legitimate question: Why isn't the R8 a long barreled revolver?
Shit would be awesome, pulling out this huge revolver with this absurd draw time/animation then sniping a guy in the head across the map with it.
Right now even getting headshots isn't as satisfying as it is getting Juan Deags.
If this revolver had 40% armor penetration and a longer barrel I'd love it.
Cowyboy vs Bandits stage when?
>>319595321
Yeah, the reason why I've started spraying more recently is that I've just gotten used to the spray pattern on the M4, so I've been getting pretty good kills even spraying at midrange.
With the new update I'll probably go back to my Silver ways of just bursting everything.
>>319595547
>this was the plan all along
Shit, might as well hire the guy who made Fistful of Frags.
>>319595547
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofobavsPZ7s
>Distinguished Gentleman guns
R8
MAC-10
Nova
Desert Eagle
SG 553
SSG 08
Dual Berettas
FAMAS
>Filthy Scumbag guns
M4A1-S
AWP
P90
>>319595124
Oh I know I don't shit talk in game til after its finished to teammates because 9/10 times the shitters will purposely throw. I'm normally a hard carry or my friend is you can't really spend time getting mad at how shit someone is doing when you're having to kill everything.
The other day on cache I'm playing truck on a site since my teammate calls "rushing squeaking" so I'm obviously going to play for retakes he dies, I get 2 frags and die. "don't okay truck you can't help your partner" buy round I awp truck pick one. He's playing God damn barrels and gets smoked off so he goes cat and gets shot in the face "stop baiting me with the awp" so after that he baits me on site and doesn't kill a guy not looking at him. So he's so embarrassed he doesn't talk the rest of the game and just runs mid or b every round, no calls and keeps knifing me til he's kicked and this is GE. People like that are worse than God damn silvers to me.
ITT: ppl bad at csgo that think this gun doesnt get blown away by the ak47 still
>>319595796
>Hipster Guns
Bizon
MP7
Galil
AUG
>>319589009
>100% accuracy LMB
>insta-headshots across the map
>better than the AWP in every way
>>319595207
Nah hard counter is playing an off angle with the sg or or Aug. They have to charge up and most likely will let go after trying to prefire the normal angle, you then pop out and murder then all before they can shoot you at range. Up close mollies and nades and smgs are perfect or if you want to be cheeky, Alt tabbing removes smoke now then you just shoot them through it.
Ecos are the easiest things ever now as well one well placed nade makes the whole enemy team one shot at any range pair that with one guy with a 57 or a p250 and even if the nade misses everyone on the other team is dead in 2 bullets. But it's just not fun playing with it since there's no more cs to play just weird run and gun rail gun shit.
>>319596075
>mp7
>hipster
nigga get the fuck outta here
>>319595738
I want to micspam spaghetti western music whenever there is one person left with a revolver.
>>319595961
ITT: silvers who are too bad to realize even high level play is completely different now that the revolver is in and that it has removed the economy fully from the game. If you could aim or spend more than 5 minutes with the gun any angle you peak you have peakers advantage and a one shot kill fully accurate running awp pistol.
>>319587963
it has literally no movement penalty so you aren't going to be standing still
What's especially weird is the fact that the gun is clearly using hollowpoint rounds, and the military doesn't really use revolvers all that much. In some swat teams they give them to the shield guys because a normal pistol slide could damage the shield or the gun.
>>319595961
the ak accuracy is shit now, silver
>>319596185
>>319598212
>Everybody else says this so it's true!
I want silver shittiers to get the fuck out.
this gun can't be real.
>>319585690
>de_dust
everytime
>>319588156
They are all retarded, yes.
>>319596294
>Alt tabbing removes smoke
How the fuck do you drop the ball THIS hard?
There weren't even any changes to smokes...
>>319598670
it's literally true faggot, try it out yourself
>>319599823
I've been trying it all day, and I've been failing to have 100% moving accuracy all day.
