Would a real-time (not turn-based) isometric Fallout be able to work?
Would you play it?
I didn't play wasteland 2 because I don't have the patience for old school RPGs anymore, so no.
the people begging for a classic style fallout are a minority of nostalgiafags, we got a new classic fallout, it's called new vegas.
>>319553920
My fps would certainly hit 60 from the cmera angle sure.
But honestly the way VATS works and the open world aspect, it isn't as smooth as first person.
>>319553920
It'd just be a twin-stick shooter then. we've already had the abomination that was FO:BoS
>>319554139
This.
fallout tactis had option for real time combat.
Van buren too
>>319554380
Never played it, but I can't really get into the turn-based gameplay of 1 and 2.
Why is FO:BoS bad exactly? Lore and story notwithstanding
Why do nostalgia faggot keep trying to push for this dead as fuck genre
>>319553920
probably but if you're going to go isometric then turn-based combat works better
>>319553920
i would rather have full 3d version of Fo2
>>319553920
How do you make the power armor HUD transparent like that?
go back to 1995 cuz
>>319554547
>muh nostalgia
hurr what is age of decadence then
as long as up = up and not up = up/left
>>319554635
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/661/?
>>319554635
looks like that in 3rd person
I wonder if the next Obsidian Fallout will be 3D like New Vegas or isometric like PoE. I'd be fine with either since they would be writing it, but it will be interesting to see.
>>319554732
>>319554753
Cheers
>>319554139
>I didn't play wasteland 2 because I don't have the patience for old school RPGs anymore, so no.
Why exactly do you need patience for cRGPs but not with the shooters that pretend to be RPGs like modern Fallout?
>>319554667
STOP CONFUSING ME
>real-time isometric Fallout
so this would play like what, Commandos?
>>319554547
Why are you acting like you're better than anyone else, Junior.
>>319553920
It looks really cool with the perspective like that.
>>319555036
it's gonna play like shit since there's a 7:1 ratio of enemies to friendly NPCs in FO4, you'll be spending more time in combat that actually talking to anybody.
>>319554139
>we got a new classic fallout, it's called new vegas.
No, what you got is a Fallout 3 expansion pack.
>>319554973
I was thinking it'd play like Crusader. Which would be fucking awesome.
OP here.
Just to clarify, I can't play the first two Fallouts because the turn-based combat doesn't do it for me, so no nostalgia.
However I love ARPGs like Diablo, Victor Vran, Path of Exile etc., so I'm curious how a real-time isometric Fallout would play.
>>319555143
0/10
>>319554881
>Why exactly do you need patience for cRGPs but not with the shooters that pretend to be RPGs like modern Fallout?
If your stats aren't high enough in wasteland/you're not well equipped enough you can't ran away as easily or abuse AI pathing as easily.
Say, if you're outleveled by those giant fuckbots in wasteland 2, you can't just out range it or run into a building and hide, plinking it to death.
>>319555219
0/10
>>319554881
First person controls and immersion go a long way with people. It's people still play Bethesda games after years and years.
>>319554515
Twin-stick shooter done pretty basic. So it's not as good as shit like CoN or DA.
I'd play a realtime isometric modern fallout. Wasteland was enjoyable but even it's combat was basic as fuck. No cover system, no way of leaning around walls, no quick intuitive way to activate sneak mode for everyone, etc.
>>319554139
Fuck this cunt. I'm 21 and I enjoy isometric vidya.
Bethesda have no reason to make another isometric fallout.
The first person ones still sell gangbusters and until people stop buying them they have no incentive to do anything different.
>>319554515
It was just dark alliance with a fallout skin. It wasn't terrible at doing what it was trying to do, but they canned Van buren to push it out which pissed the community off something fierce.
>>319555402
>I like REAL MUSIC like 80's music and I'm only 12!
fucking really
yes, look up the fall: last days of gaia. basically that.
>>319555246
So your problem is that cRPGs don't let you cheese and abuse certain mechanics as easily as action games?
>>319555525
I only stated that since the anon I replied to said only nostalgiafags care about the older fallouts.
>>319555542
>gaia
wasn't that just address up game with some pseudo chatroom shit like club penguin?
>>319555656
No, I said nostalgiafags want a NEW "classic style" Fallout with archaic systems intact.
>>319555710
it's a german game worked on by some of the van buren devs.
>>319553920
what mod?
>>319555974
~
tfc
pic related
>>319554657
A game that will never top 50k in sales.
It caters to a niche within a niche.
>>319554139
I don't play wasteland 2 because the battles and statistics are poorly balanced. Unlike Fallout 1, you're constantly missing or dealing shit amounts of damage. I can play FO1 and Arcanum just fine. Wasteland 2 is just poorly designed.
It would work, but people nowadays don't give a shit about rpg and just want to aim and shoot and destroy everything.
>>319556618
>but people nowadays don't give a shit about rpg
Yeah thats why the witcher 3 is pretty much universally considered the GOTY.
Dumbshit.
you better real fuckin careful about the words comin outta your mouth boy
>>319556485
nigga you just too dumb for wasteland2 how about that?
Played through it last week and I never faced the complaints you set
>>319556752
it has cinematic approach to dialog and 80% of the games are still hacking and burning everything of course it is the goty
>>319556752
the people I know who bought witcher skip every fucking dialogue and only read the text where they have to go next. thats it. for them its about being the cool tough all-banging witcher fucking demons and shit. Im pretty sure that most people play like I described it.
Only a few people actually care for good voice overs, good lore and writing. which is a shame really.
>>319557258
I play on the harder difficulties. And that shit is imbalanced. I'm not going to lower the difficulty level just to be appeased like a damn casual.
>>319554139
I liked Wasteland 2 DC
No, it's made for casuals and casuals want fps.
>>319555189
>Diablo, Victor Vran, Path of Exile
The combat in these is fucking shit. All isometric RPGs that don't have turn based tactical combat fucking suck balls.
>>319553920
Fonline works (mostly) in real-time. You still have action points, and they regenerate only when You are not moving Your character. You can still aim with vats, but those extra clicks takes too much time in real time mode. You can use binds to set what body part You want to aim at every time You attack. I recommend trying fonline: reload.
>>319553920
No it wouldnt, a fallout with good rpg mechanics would
>>319553920
Like Tactics, you millenian shit.
>>319557490
well playing on the hardest difficulty is just dumb because enemies dont get more clever but get more health. bullet sponges. too tedious. youre not a casual cause youre playing it at all. a casual wouldnt even touch it
>>319557874
>muh millenials
>>319557742
Woah now anon lets not overstep ourselves here.
Diablo 1 and 2 are fuckin sweet.
>>319557742
just stop, you are dumb, you have no idea about what we are talking about, pleas go play cod or destiny and leave this thread alone
>>319554814
they're not working on another one. they said it's something unrelated but cool?
>>319558563
so meany skeletons
>>319553920
it would work just fine. Van Buren was going to be exactly like this and you could switch out to turn-based similar to going into VATS.
>>319553920
That looks much better than whatever Betheshit did.
>isometric
There is no use that dated perspective unless you are making some shitty poormans kickstarter/indie rpg in 2015. 3rd person with rotating, changeable zoom camera is objectively better in every way.
>>319559996
3D looks bad most of the time, and can look bad more easily, also looks dated much faster.
>>319559996
remember all those great looking 3d isometric view games
>>319560249
>implying shitty 2D trying to look realistic hasn't aged baddly either.
Pure nostalgia.
>>319560478
all i can think of is how great would be to have that as something that actually offers more interactivity than simpy looking pretty.
2d perspective is smoke and mirrors, there is not need for that unless nostalgia, or poor as fuck dev.
>>319560478
Fuck I wish we had more modern 2D isometric games.
They look so fucking gorgeous in 1080p.
>>319560896
Fucking Ukraine man.
I just replayed FO2. I can see why people find them teidious or slow-paced, but it's still incredibly fun.
I don't see why you would want new games made in that fashion though, except for nostalgia purposes. I thought it mostly existed to overcome programming limitations of the 1990s anyway.
Wasteland 2 did it well though.
>>319560795
nothing stopping you from making something as interactive in 2d as in 3d besides changing perspective
