Capcom's design to try and appeal to a wider audience by removing anything that could be "offensive" just means I'm going to support the new King of Fighters instead of the new Street Fighter.
>>319532310
Why not support it because it's a good series?
Seriously, the good rivalry the SF and KOF fanbase once had now has been reduced to shitflinging about "this one isn't censored!", "well, this one doesn't look like a PS2 game!".
>>319532310
SFV had two things out of its sea of fanservice censored, dickhead.
>>319532559
>It was censored just a bit, it's fine!"
This fucking world we live in.
>>319532310
KOF was always better. That's why it didn't sell
Also the SFV case suck but it's not censorship if the dev did it themselves before receiving any complains. I'm pretty sure no one was offended by the butt slap at all (because it's Street Fighter of course, if the same thing happened in KOF, GGX or Dengeki Bunko, SJWs would bitch alright, because they have different standards for popular things)
>>319532758
I'm not okay with what happened but that's a dumb reason to boycott the game.
>>319533180
>KOF was always better. That's why it didn't sell
That makes no sense and KOF isn't better anyway. The game sacrifices mechanics and tools for speed. It feels fast and simplistic, as opposed to a game like Vampire, which is fast and moderately complex
>>319533180
>it's not censorship if the dev did it themselves before receiving any complains.
Ono is flat out saying they changed to appeal to a broader audience, that's self-censorship at its finest.
That's like saying any of the NISA bullshit cases aren't censorship because they never recieved complaints prior begining their butchering.
>>319533624
No, that's normalfag pandering but not self-censorship, sorry.
>>319533727
It is, and there's need to be sorry, you just aren't can tell which is which.
>>319533552
>KOF
>simplistic
Sure.
>>319533624
NISA is a localization company, not the actual devs, idiot.
You don't even play the games anyway, so who the fuck cares.
>>319533797
So any games that try to pander to a wider audience are self censoring themselves by your definition. You do realize how retarded that is right?
>>319532516
Yep.
It's a shame because outside of some small changes SFV looks great and KOF XIV looks solid as fuck, even if it does have auto combos.
>>319533180
>t's not censorship if the dev did it themselves before receiving any complains
Look up the Comic Code Authority. Self censorship is still censorship that cripples an industry
>>319532310
We're getting a bunch of Arcsys fighters on PC too. I'm going to be skipping Censored Fighter V.
>>319535236
Then where does the creative freedom fit in all of this?
If a dev doesn't want to include cute girls in his game he's censoring himself? Do you seriously believe this? That's all western devs.
SFV is still a beta, don't forget it.
>>319533898
Want me to post a timestamp when I buy king of fighters 14 on release?
I'm the first one to bitch on censorship and normalfaggotry but seriously, are you going to bitch on SFV being toned down when it's still way sexier than games like DOA or any other anime fighter?
Do you guys thing the Humble Bundle is worth it? With ten bucks you get basically all the best SNK games, 98 UM and 02 UM too.
I'd love to pick it but it lacks KoF XIII, which is the one koF I want more.
>>319536431
If he intended to have cute girls initially but has a change of heart because he fears criticism from special interest groups then its censorship
>>319536876
XIII is garbage.
Don't know the quality of the new ports but 98UMFE is pretty good and 02UM has problems but is playable.
>>319536925
Sure.
But what proofs is there that Capcom really fear criticism, as opposed to just changing their mind for creative reasons?
KoF = interesting
SF = boring 15 variations of Ryu shit everywhere
it's like how many Kens do we need? ok Ryu, Dark Ryu, Ken, Dan, Sakura, Dark Sakura, Akuma, Shin Akuma, Sean, Gouken, am i missing anything????
KoF XIV looks awful but with a good gameplay.
>>319537218
>am i missing anything????
Yeah, the other 50 characters that aren't variations of Ryu.
>>319537310
>my point is that i'm avoiding your point
nice one bro
>>319537128
Why would they change it in the first place?
>>319537128
They literally said they didn't want to make people uncomfortable
>>319536949
>XIII is garbage.
I already set my mind about it. I don't give a fuck about your opinion.
My question was if the HB was worth it as it is and if they will add XIII eventually, not if XIII is good.
>>319537395
Maybe because it's super intrusive for the gameplay? How is such a big zoom and camera movement good for the game's visibility?
>>319537563
10 dollars is already worth it for 98 alone, anime shitter.
>>319537613
You're just grasping at straws now
>>319537696
Then I'll go for it, autistic cunt.
>>319537563
Then yes, it's worth it. Both UMs are amazing, possibly some of the best KoFs ever made alongsideXI.
>>319537506
How is that unreasonable? They know murricunts and normalfags get uncomfortable over cute girls.
They know that kills sales and the game's reputation. SFV still has the chance to have some worldwide popularity, but if they go too far, normalfags calling it a "weebshit fighter" is only a matter of time.
I love those mind you, but if I was Capcom I would do the same. Don't lose hundred millions of dollars over some ass animation, that's stupid as fuck.
>>319537762
Even DOA doesn't do this m8
>>319537873
Those people aren't your target audience and trying to appeal to them never works.
There was literally no reason for them to trade sprites for these PS2 3D models.
This game looks awful.
>>319532310
Just support Guilty Gear instead. It's the second big fighting game next to SF these days and its now on PC
>>319537979
>Those people aren't your target audience
As a matter of fact they are.
>>319533624
>implying Ono isn't just saying this shit to calm SJWs down to avoid a shitstorm.
Its not like they altered Mikas outfit. Her ass is still there in the other 99.999999% of gameplay
>>319537945
Explain how it's intrusive for gameplay
>>319532310
>supporting a PS1 game
>>319538005
>There was literally no reason
As much as I agree with you that these models are hot dogshit, sprites (especially HD sprites) are really more expensive than 3D models. And we both know SNK is not rich enough anymore. XIII was the swan song of high level pixel art.
I mean, I'd be ok with 3D models too if they weren't horrible.
>>319538117
When is Tekken 7 coming out
>>319537864
For ten bucks, it seems really a good deal.
>>319538117
>dat Andy
Holy shit that's fucked up. Is that really from XIV?
>>319538154
>>XIII was the swan song of high level pixel art.
>Recycled, rotoscoped 3d models are considered high level pixel art
>>319538249
It's probably going to be crap thanks to China.
>>319538251
>Recycled
What. KoF recycled sprites since forever.
>Rotoscoped
How that makes it not pixel art? How that does not imply they had to put a lot of work to rotoscope a signle frame for each animation?
Also, backgrounds of XIII are neither recycled or rotoscoped.
What does Capcom get from pandering to these retards?
They don't play SFV at all.
People who don't play SFV are either neutral on the fanservice or love it.
I don't get it. What is Capcom's end game here?
>>319538451
The backgrounds of XIII also look like shit.
I shouldn't have to explain to you why recycling sprites and rotoscoping 3d models is lazy.
"The backgrounds of XIII also look like shit."
LOL
>>319538756
Oh, hold on. You are the autist that complains about Terry having his eyes covered, aren't you? I got enough of your dumbfuckery in other threads.
>>319538756
>I shouldn't have to explain to you why recycling sprites and rotoscoping 3d models is lazy.
What part of "SNK always recycled sprites" you didn't get? And if rotoscoping is so easy, what about you rotoscope an entire roster of 20+ characters in HD (1080p) sprites? Do it.
Fuck you, I'm out.
>>319532559
Of course that "sea of fanservice" will be not censored too... right?
>>319537873
damage control is so common now.
>>319538080
nice try
>>319538936
Is it so unfeasible that maybe more than one person thinks lifeless lazy spritework doesn't look great? And yeah, SNK has always reused sprites but that doesn't make it a good thing, not to mention how making the statement "XIII was the last swan song for high quality sprite work" is inherently a lie since the sprites come from fucking XII.
Not even starting on how awful all the particles in XII/XIII are.
>>319539181
You're not delusional enough to think Street fighter isn't a game who's main audience are normalfags?
>>319532310
Good for you, Jose
Now go trim my garden please
>>319532516
I never thought about it like that
What a disgrace.
>>319533552
>KOF
>simplistic
Git fucking gud.
>>319538332
>>319538117
Im laffin so fuckin hard right now is there more like that ?
>>319532516
>Seriously, the good rivalry the SF and KOF fanbase once had now has been reduced to shitflinging about "this one isn't censored!", "well, this one doesn't look like a PS2 game!".
But I only see this on /v/. Nobody else is doing this "Support out of spite" thing. You have to realize that /v/ is actually shit at fighters and of course will support which ever one they can fap to more.
>>319532516
trying to talk about fighting games on /v/ is basically pointless because hardly anyone knows what they're talking about and they just know how to masturbate over the artwork and girls instead.
>>319532310
Nobody gives a shit because you're bad at fighters, OP, and you never played locals or majors.
>>319532310
>Huur! I'm going to support something out of spite! Not because I think it's actually good!
No, you jackass. That doesn't help anyone.
>>319540461
>>319541023
>>319541236
God make it even more apparent you're samefagging
You're 100% right and you shouldn't discuss fighting games on /v/ because the overall level of discourse is absolute trash, so why bother bumping this thread?
>>319537873
>kills sales
How do you kill sales that were never going to happen in the first place?
>>319541424
>People reach the same logical conclusion that OP is shit.
>Must be a samefag.
Nope.
>>319532310
Thats pretty shallow. On the same level as refusing to buy a game because it shows some titties.
You wont be missed.
>>319541736
>Uses "out of spite" twice
>calls it "fighters"
>Masturbate/fap argument
Shut up you piece of trash, I bet you never even got out of pools at a big tournament before
>>319541863
>"Nobody gives a shit because you're bad at fighters, OP, and you never played locals or majors."
>Uses "out of spite" twice
>calls it "fighters"
>Masturbate/fap argument
Nice try shitter. Keep calling everyone samefag. My argument is different then his/thiers; anyone actually boycotting Street Fighter would do so because of the financial model, or the mechanics... As such you don't play and don't matter. I've never been to a local or biweekly or major where people really talked about censorship or actually wanting to fuck cartoons with seriousness.
>>319542432
I'm not boycotting the game at all, I'll likely be one of the best players in my country as I am in SF4 and looking forward to being competitive on an EU level for years, even though the game is heavily casualized and doesn't interest me as much as SF4 in the first place.
Might switch to Guilty as my main game
>>319533552
>The game sacrifices mechanics and tools for speed.
XIII? yeah, the previous KOF's not so much
however
>>319533839
>>319539412
KOF is simplistic, especially compared to Vampire
>>319542779
I will never understand why people call KoF deep.
Its a really fucking basic series.
Only thing thats special about it is the different types of jumps, but that has nothing on your average anime fighter.
>>319532310
>just means I'm going to support the new King of Fighters instead of the new Street Fighter.
Can't you just not support either?
I mean, you're basically supporting a bad game just to be contrarian.
Is
>Censorship
a buzzword now? I swear, everyone on /v/ spouts it like retards in wrong applications.
>>319543043
>XIV is bad because graphics
I hate this meme
>>319542910
Don't forget running and rolling and the staple guard cancel actions since KOF97 that took so long for SF to get back since Alpha days.
>>319543291
There hasn't been a good KoF since 2001 faggot, get over it.
>>319542779
>>319542910
You guys talk big, but can you walk big too?
Also it's false advertising to have a butt slap in the trailer but not in the game. Fuck Ono for caving to SJW faggotry.
>>319543437
XIV isn't out, you realise.
>>319543623
It's not false advertising because it's not an advertisement, and it's also an "in-development" game, and the judge would laugh you out of court for a frivolous lawsuit if you tried.
I'd love to defend the fuck out of XIV all up and down. I love them for going for 50 fighters for a new series from the ground up, but there is still the netcode to worry about. XII and XIII had some godawful netcode for online, and kinda hurt the experience.
>>319544113
You'd think that they learned from their past mistakes, but they JUST got caught selling MAME roms again.
SNK is such a retarded company.
>>319543623
>Also it's false advertising to have a butt slap in the trailer but not in the game
Doesn't every official video says that the game is still in development? False Advertising is when you show the game off as a complete product and then what was show isn't there.
By that logic a large majority of game reveal trailers are false advertising due to how much changed between the reveal and the finish product.
>>319544113
netcode didn't hurt my experience with XII and XIII at all since I play on the best "netcode" aka offline with friends who are also good at the game and I occasionally go to my local scene to participate in tournies. But I can understand for most that don't have a local scene that it's a problem.
>>319544313
>selling MAME roms
>romdumps of their own games
>selling ROMDUMPS of their own games
>>319538332
holy fuck I'm dying
>>319539574
>>319544670
https://twitter.com/Foxhack/status/674371627103096832
They did it in the PS2 era too.
They also just copied the emulator.
Fucking lazy cunts.
>>319544313
Yeah it shouldn't be that surprising since that bizarre Neogeo X thing was only two or three years ago.
I just wish I could be hype for this Last Blade 2 port but I figure the online will be garbage. Then I'll wonder why I'm not just fucking around on supercade.
>>319544948
Based Chinese overlords
>>319543495
>You guys talk big, but can you walk big too?
go on...
>>319544948
>pirate the game
>get mad when the company takes your pirate and sells it for profit
>takes your free software as well
TOP KEK
>>319545442
It's like pottery in moshing
