System Shock 3 has been teased by Otherside Entertainment earlier today.
What do ya feel /v/? Hype? Caution? What do you want/expect out of a new System Shock?
http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/8/9870808/system-shock-3-otherside-entertainment-reveal
Nothing good, but I learned that all you should ever expect if you want to enjoy a game.
Actually the game should not look like this.
It would work better if it somehow looked a bit like DeusEx Human Revolution. Dark and technical ... but realistic. Also who the fuck would use buttons like this in the future? And what are those chess pieced walls for?
I need to stop thinking about it before im getting buttmad
My heart fucking jumps because System Shock 2 is one of my all time favorite games, but in this modern climate of shitty games, it makes me fucking sad.
>>319468291
>I need to stop thinking about it
You really do.
>>319468291
>wanting a piss filter
>>319467749
That looks a lot like hard reset
>>319468385
And thats the thread. Anything released now has a very high chance of just being a game called system shock instead of an actual system shock.
Something else mentioned in that news page is that Night Dive, the current IP holder is working on a "reimagining" of System Shock 1. Whether this will affect SS3 is unknown.
>>319467749
>What do you expect out of a new System Shock?
Nothing. The first 2 games failed to live up to their full potential, so I can't see how 3 will do any better in the current gaming climate.
>>319467749
>linking to polygon and not the teaser site directly
fuck off shill
https://archive.is/oQNnt
http://www.othersidetease.com/p089gg.php
http://www.othersidetease.com/strawberry.php
That's from a remake of System Shock, not SS3.
>>319468291
OP's picture is from the System Shock 1 remake. Reference image.
>>319468846
Okay im glad.
>Polygon
I like the HUD.
The fact its not just an HP and Psy (assuming) bar is a good thing.
>>319467749
Fuck off shill
>>319467749
I like how the remake looks, SS3 will probably be shit.
>>319468385
Fucking this right here.
>>319467749
Nah.
>>319469502
If SS3 ends being good, we're going to get a fantastic new game to play.
If SS3 ends being mediocre / bad we can just ignore it, life goes on.
I'll be optimistic about this one. Mortal Kombat 2011 and Deception 4 prove that a long dead series can get a good modern sequel.
>>319468787
>I'm remaking Game X, here are some HD shots of the first room!
It's easy to announce this stuff, but it's hard to think of occasions where it ever saw completion.
If I wanted to be really cynical, I would say it's just a ploy to motivate people to buy the original now that they have the rights. You do want to support them, right?
>>319467749
SS2 was BioShock but worse, no hype from me. And that looks like a shit remake anyways.
How did they manage to get the rights? I thought that shit was a jurisdictional and logistical nightmare.
>no Ken Levine
>>319470260
Good.
Just let it rest.
>>319468930
He didn't know, He never played 1.
>>319469805
This. I wouldn't have hope if it was some random fuckers making it, but it isn't.
>>319470260
Good.
>>319470429
Good, but a bit too shiny. Reminds me of Doom 3.
>>319470429
Chromatinc aberration really is the cancer of this generation.
>>319470360
>>319470640
but he designed and wrote SS2
>>319470719
Didn't he also do Bioshock 1,2,3
>>319470858
He wrote BioShock 1 and wrote Infinite in less than 1 year after they scrapped everything shown in previous trailers.
>>319470719
And?
Anybody can write a videogame story. The ones truly responsible for a game, be good or bad, are the entire design team and the coders.
>>319470858
Only 1 and 3.
>>319470719
System Shock 2 was designed and written by many people. He wasn't involved in SS1, which I prefer.
>>319470719
That doesn't mean hes still good today Anon. He was also involved in Thief: The Dark Project, the many has been behind or part of a few great games.
But he was also the head honcho behind Bioshock Infinite so I don't have as much confidence in him today.
>>319470719
No wonder BS is exactly the same but with simplified gameplay.
>>319467749
The shill is real
>>319470705
Not seeing any chromatic aberration tbqh senpai
>>319471017
>anybody can write a videogame story
writers don't just write story, retard.
They do companions, flavor text, lore and narrative.
And everyone can do it. But very few can do it well.
>>319471184
THEN YOU ARE LOST.
>>319471083
I just don't think a blunder makes Levine instantly shit. I mean is there a single writer/game designer that doesn't have one bad/terrible game?
Feels pretty good, bro.
>>319471184
Look at the floor
>>319470062
>Bioshock but worse
You have to be 18 to post here.
>>319471184
grill on the ceiling
>>319471430
I am24though.
>>319471356
He also worked on Tribes Vengeace.
>>319471218
It was done well without him in the first game and in games since. I'm not saying his involvement would necessarily be bad, but his absence doesn't alarm me either.
>>319471170
>>319471218
>They do companions, flavor text, lore and narrative
Those things aren't important. They help creating immersion but at the end of the day they can't salvage a shit game and you can remove them from a good game without it suffering.
I bet you're one of those fanatical dark souls lorefags
>>319471184
Its not heavy but its there.
>tfw Levine voiced Cortez in System Shock 2
>>319471596
>these things aren't important
>the frequently-top rated games of all time are all heavily-story/narrative/writing driven
m8
>>319471596
>immersion isn't important
>in a Looking Glass game of all things
>>319467749
Why does it have chromatic aberration?
>>319471746
>tfw Levine voiced the circues of values clown in BioShock
>>319471596
dude... is this even bait...
>>319467749
eh. Otherside have yet to show they are a good game developer, so I have no feeling on this
>>319471184
>>319471580
OP posts like a newfag and links to polygon, looks and tastes like a shill to me.
It better take a page out of SOMA's book in atmosphere
>>319471896
KILL YOUR FRIENDS AT THE CIRCUS OF VALLLLUEEESSS
>>319467749
>sequel to a cult classic
This has literally never turned out well ever.
>>319472115
System Shock 2 and Bioshock are literally the reason SOMA even exists.
>>319472245
cravings*
>>319472318
New Vegas, sort of.
Who the fuck is Otherside Entertainment, and why should I give a single fuck about these literal whos?
>>319472369
I never said the contrary, what I meant is that SOMA raised the bar so in order for SS3 to fulfill modern expectations in needs to reach that level of atmosphere
It better be funky as shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkFgV4SY6x0
>>319472035
Tim Stellmach and Paul Neurath certainly have worthy track records (considering they include System Shock) but you're right, they have to prove themselves as a new team.
>Who the fuck is Otherside Entertainment
Literally whos who got their hands on the System Shock IP after several years of legal battle with EA and decided to shill themselves on /v/ out of all places.
>why should I give a single fuck about them
you shouldn't.
>>319470705
Calm your autism, its really not that big of a deal
>>319472684
It's as bad as bloom.
>>319472543
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-stellmach-68583547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Neurath
+ some other guys, Terri Brosius, and Stephen Russell.
>>319472684
it looks like shit though
it's like 30fps for >muh cinematic feel
>>319467749
>What do ya feel /v/?
fear, mild anger, worry, denial
but also just a little bit for hoping for the best. i'd love a new system shock that's actually good. i just have absolutely 0 faith that it'll actually be good
>Otherside Entertainment
Literally who?
>>319472650
The bar was never raised past Thief 2.
>>319472684
it makes games look cheap as fuck, like no thought was put into it. copy paste some shaders like chromatic aberration, bloom and ssao... done
>>319472543
I've never heard of them either till I google'd it.
Straight from their own site: "Welcome to OtherSide Entertainment! We’re a brand new game studio focused on rebooting classic game franchises."
What a waste.
>>319472905
Composed of Looking Glass employees
>>319467749
theyre gonna fuck up the ss1 remake i have no doubt
honestly i don't think ss3 should be made but caution i guess... it's otherside who have a lot of ex LGS but on the other hand they havn't produced anything since forming and are currently working on UU kickstarter thing i wouldnt get behind ss3 until i see how that turns out, ss2 shitters will be creaming themselves over this news though
>>319470260
i honestly believe ken is the reason for every shitty thing in ss2 yeah thats right ss2 has alot of shitty things in it it's not a perfect game if you believe this you should go play the original right away
>>319473073
>that text
Literally "Hi we're a bunch of dudes with no ideas so we're gonna shit on your childhood favourite games"
>>319472671
I heard that Dead Space was originally EA's take on System Shock 3, but due to that legal shit they couldn't properly do it.
Modern EA wouldn't be able to pull off a new System Shock. Ideally I think I'd like someone like Arkane Studios to do it.
>>319472823
Oh okay, so like 2 guys from LG are on the team.
That's better than nothing, I guess.
>>319472823
>Stephen "Based" Russell
Well I'm onboard
>>319467749
Will it have difficult gameplay, scarce resource management, and a grid inventory?
>>319472908
I haven't played Thief but I don't think it bears comparison, Thief (as far as I know) has no horror in it.
>>319473213
>i honestly believe one person is the reason for every shitty thing in ss2
That seems like a pretty naive thing to believe.
>>319473238
>>319473073
You fucking idiots. The people who are part of the studio made the original game
>>319472823
>stephen russell
>getting a comedian and drug campaigner on board
this gun b good
>>319473368
>Thief (as far as I know) has no horror in it
It does, though! Horror and supernatural stuff.
>>319473368
>Thief (as far as I know) has no horror in it.
>>319473387
fuck off ken
>>319473407
>2 people out of possibly 50+
>>319473368
>Thief (as far as I know) has no horror in it
http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/OM_T1_The_Haunted_Cathedral
>>319473336
nah, it will have a waifu, inane puzzles and 2 guns
>>319467749
>Being made by a bunch of SJWs
Have fun cuks.
Hey, do you remember the time when that System Shock 2 enemy's pathfinding got caught on bad level geometry, and the enemy clipped through the floor?
Neither do I. Those bastards could TRACK you across the entire mazelike level and would hunt you relentlessly.
>>319473368
>Thief (as far as I know) has no horror in it.
Oh it does, and it's one of the only games that has ever got a jump out of me.
>>319473368
you'd be wrong. there are lots of supernatural elements and a few frightening levels.
>>319473631
proof?
>>319468291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vBeWKTfpA8
I honestly think the sound is core to the System Shock series. The music made the game pretty tense, but turning the music off really made the whole atmosphere pretty spooky. It really felt like you were alone in the whole ship, but then Xerxes would interrupt the silence with his monotonic voice out of nowhere to announce something. A good example of this is the elevators that echo through out the ship or the Hybrids talking to themselves on the ship.
>>319473387
well considering what ideas caarried over into bioshock i'd have to lay the blame on ken and irrational
>>319472671
Night Dive are doing the SS1 remake.
Otherside Entertainment are doing SS3.
We don't even have a preview and it's already needlessly confusing.
>>319473687
Check out who OtherSide Games is following on twitter.
Have fun seeing another franchise getting fucked by these people.
>>319473929
>Using Twitter is evidence for anything
Oh, /v/.
>>319473929
Following people is not a sign of endorsement or even agreement. I follow lots of people I dislike
>>319473368
> Thief (as far as I know) has no horror in it.
I can tell you've never played Thief then m8
>>319473420
He was already on board in 1998. He did several voices in SS2 and Thief 1 and 2 (most notably Garrett).
>>319474140
Couldn't you tell that because he started his post with "I haven't played Thief"?
>>319474140
Which is what I said. I've never played Thief. More interested in it now though.
>>319473649
remember circle strafing every enemy and smacking them to death with the wrench?
the shooting was garbage too ss1 was better in that regard and it's not even a shootan game
>>319473845
night dive don't make games themselves unless this a first.
They usually work with mod authors and have a couple of people bring old games up to scratch and working on modern systems. The only original game they have published was a blatant ss2 clone indie game called spirits of xanadu
>>319473548
There are six employees, not including voice actors or Warren Spector (who's supervising in some way).
>>319473929
>They are following Anthony Burch
C U C K
>>319474345
Yeah, it's not just about stealing stuff from rich people in a pseudo-medieval city, it's about stealing stuff from rich people, powerful religious orders and haunted tombs in an ancient medieval-steampunkish City that was rebuilt on top of itself so many times nobody really knows how old it is. And you get involved in some shady and supernatural dealings in process.
i hope it's as complex as SS2 while putting more effort in actual gameplay balance.
for anyone interested in otherside here is some footage from ascendant prototype thing available to backers (yes they are making it in unity)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSmf6kQwnT0
Okay, so:
>SS1 Enhanced by Nightdive
>SS1 Reimagining by Nightdive
>SS3 by another company
That about right?
>>319474931
Correct.
Screenshot in the OP is from Night Dive's reimagining.
>>319474931
night dive don't make games themselves
>tfw no FPStealth/spy game about you being a double agent for Ryan/Atlus during the rise of Rapture
>>319475203
Also correct from past evidence. Its likely for this too but nobody knows for sure.
>>319475096
The screenshot doesn't look bad by itself, but I don't think this style works with the colorful mid 90s game aesthetic of SS1.
Isn't this by the same people who are making Underworld Ascendant?
It doesn't look very good.
>>319475203
They literally made System Shock 2
>>319467749
System Shock 2 is one of the most overrated games to come out of the 1990's.
>>319475372
I want millennials to leave.
>>319475315
i'm not sure what is going to happen here theey admitted they can't fund a AAA remake or whatever themselves they they've either secured funding from somewhere else or are going the crowdfunding route and i have a feeling it's gonna be that way because otherside have already done it.
>>319475348
nope
>>319473687
all has-beens in the vidya industry are massive SJWs
there's a reason they were basement dwellers playing D&D, and it's not because they were popular amongst their peers.
>>319473929
I dont even like system shit, but I wanted you to be wrong. All of antigg are on there with only two that I can say would be pro.
>>319475760
It really is though and that's coming from someone who played it on release.
>>319474757
>unity
please tell me at least it's unity 5
holy shit
>>319476408
Unity will always be Unity, no matter how many shiny features they add.C# needs to die.
>>319467749
why is the health bar at the top right? what the fuck
>>319476632
Unity 5 is decent though. It's not a "mobile-centric engine" anymore.
Unity 4 on the other hand literally ignores your GPU.
Which one are they using?
>>319476632
>C#
What is that C hastag? is it a twitter thing? x(
>>319468385
Syst3m Shock
>>319476708
because that is where it's supposed to be
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Z5CqSJt.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
If Terri is back doing SHODAN she should get back to level design as well, she made my favorite level in Thief.
>>319476861
C-Flat.
a bad programming language.
>>319476861
Here's your reply, try harder next time
>>319476708
Because it's the same location in the SS1 HUD.
>>319476904
it was retarded in SS1 and it's still retarded today
that's why I'm asking. It's been fixed in games for 15 years now, there's literally no reason for these faggots to repeat the shit that was SS1's UI.
>>319474931
Nigger System Shock Enhanced was literally just System Shock Portable with a price tag on it.
>>319477092
SS1 felt like you were piloting a tank with especially lousy damage output.
>>319477198
It quite literally wasn't.
>>319475276
tfw this thread is about system shock
>>319477226
Not with mouse-look. Plays pretty fucking good with mouse-look and mouse-look is built into the Enhanced Edition on Steam and GoG.
>>319477094
They're a studio solely founded to revive dead IPs.
Surely they wouldn't be dumb enough t o make a tiny aesthetic change to a stupidly loved cult-classic.
Because they definitely wouldn't get them a shit ton of flack and angry autists.I agree with you though, even if it's just because we're all so used to vitals being on the bottom.
>>319477094
Are your eyes so dysfunctional you can't look in the top right hand corner?
>>319477370
Don't give a fuck, BS usually comes up anyway and I want it.
>>319477517
Is this the best you can come up with?
>>319477421
If they're going to keep SS1's HUD tabs thing, then that would push your inventory, weapons panel and shit to the top which would be much weirder.
>>319477549
go idea guy in another thread
>>319477414
Well I played it without.
Wrote up a cheat sheet for keyboard shortcuts. Good times. Thankfully most enemies remain stationary, but I imagine being able to strafe and shoot somewhat breaks the game.
>>319477582
You didn't give a reason as to why it's retarded. What am I supposed to reply with?
Guys I loved ss2, ss1 was cool even if weirder ocntrol wise. I went straigth up to dead space and the like (I know it snot the same but it as similar space themes, lost in a ship, etc.).
with that said, I never played Bioshock. How do they compare, bio and system?
>>319477094
i don't think there is anything wrong with the original UI it's pretty amazing that you can play the entire game with just a 2 button mouse i can guarantee they will be changing it for the remake though it's gotta work on consoles as well
>>319477198
not quite but pretty close
>>319477226
it's not a run and gun action shootan game
>>319477629
If they change anything about System Shock 1, it should be that fucking maze of an interface.
>>319477704
>but I imagine being able to strafe and shoot somewhat breaks the game.
Not really. Game's still tough, it just plays like a bit like Doom now.
>>319477629
Well the age of tv window games are over, but they know if they don't keep everything as true as possible, they'll get bitched at.
If they'd do some functional, modern minimalist thing like Hard Reset, autists would bitch and their name would be dead.
>>319477786
>How do they compare, bio and system?
BioShock is pretty much a simplified remake of System Shock 2 under the ocean.
>yfw it's a mobile "game"
>black background with white text "announcing" a game with a timer
You faggots do remember Survivor 2299 right?
>>319478127
>simplified
Why do people pretend it was supposed to be SS3?
Spiritual successor does not mean 1:1 sequel.
>>319478392
>>319478392
>Why do people pretend it was supposed to be SS3?
He never did? He simply stated its like SS2 but simplified.
>>319478127
that sounds alright
>>319478669
It's very different from SS2 though, that's the thing.
Is Fallout and Spec-Ops the same game because they both take place in the desert?
And besides, people exaggerate SS2's depth when there's only a few OP builds to have fun with.
>>319467749
more like 1, less like 2 please
>>319479146
SS2 is the one people give a shit about.
http://strawpoll.me/6212418/
here's a system shock poll which i posted in another thread
>>319478258
Yes, and that was clearly a hoax.
Otherside is the host of the
>website
you mention. Takes a second to figure that out.
>>319479146
what do you mean, I love both but 2 is more user friendly and well pretty creepy. I do miss some cyberspace stuff (even at the start you have some simulation for training) but oh well.
>>319479290
I haven't played any of them but I still enjoy reading and shitposting here.
>>319479203
>>319479290
>only playing 2
embarrassing
>>319473387
he absolutely wanted the monkeys in the game
he may have been responsible for the weapon degradation mechanic
It'll be shit.
It's always shit these days. You can't trust anyone to do a good job.
BUT I WANT TO BELIEVE
>>319467749
>Game only being teased
>/v/ is already shitting on it
>>319468703
Back around Bioshock's release I was a poorfag and so pirated SS2 cause I wanted to see what Bioshock would be like (my pc was shit and wouldn't run it even with a pirated copy). I loved the shit out of it, and I would try not to play at night cause I would get scared (I was 17-18 then lol). Later on I got a job and bought a ps3. Eventually I bought Bioshock and upon playing it I was disappointed as fuck. What a fucking let down.
So I also would want to feel hope, but so far only Human Revolution has delivered (and that barely) on a similar quality. Haven't played the original Xcom games, so I can't compare that series. Metroid Prime was more than a decade ago and so doesn't count.
Anyone know what this developer has made before, or if they recently expanded? What about the publisher?
>>319479031
Fallout and Spec ops would be similar if they had the same basic gameplay involving first person shooting with the ability to use powers with one of your hands and character upgrades, and both had hacking where you can turn security forces against their users, and used the same plot points and basically the same twist in the story, and things like that. Especially if a single person was influential in the development of both games.
>>319479734
you know what is so sad about it?
weren't the games so bad today we would not have a reason to shit on every game that is announced
>>319479734
What do you expect when so many remakes end up being shit?
Name a few good ones in the past 5 years.
>>319479446
im surprised at how many people actually played both
i thought most people only played 2 and think its the best thing ever
>>319479970
They're still very different games despite sharing similar aspects.
Comparing games to their SS's is silly.
>>319479804
get off /v/ grandpa
>>319468654
youre an idiot
>>319479402
they took the rpg shit too far with 2, to the point where it's unsatisfying as a shooter
>tfw they'll probably remove berserk effect and rollerskates
>>319480175
>Bioshock is 2 years from its decade anniversary
God damn
>>319480649
>Bioshock anniversary edition™ HD™ for your Next Gen™ Console™
>>319479402
It was silly that you would be totally unable to point a shotgun at something and pull the trigger until you spent an arbitrary number of points on shotgun shooting.
>>319480948
>HD WATER™
The fact that they still hired people specifically for water is p.cool though.
>>319481025
ANON NO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE MY SUPER DEEP RPG MECHANICS.
>>319480606
>Not chucking a frag grenade into them
>>319479804
Otherside was founded by Paul Neurath, the founder of Looking Glass.
The team has a lot of the people responsible for the original Thief games, Ultima Underworld, and the original System Shock.
They're currently working on a new Underworld game (they've been posting videos of tech work, shit like physics based mechanical traps to make sabotage a valid solution) after scoring the rights and a kickstarter, I'd guess this timer is a countdown to a new kickstarter.
>>319481101
I would like it if they did the same for gameplay.
#rekt
>>319482113
kek
>>319468291
Did you not play System Shock?
>>319470429
what is this?
I heard the enhanced edition of System Shock was based on stolen mods or something like heard.
>>319471536
Hey, that was the one that got skiing right.
You are shazbot.
>>319479734
Yup, neo-/v/ is so bad these days they will even hate on the System Shock name.
>>319482839
Agreements with the modders
>>319481964
Levine may be a 1TPony, but atleast he's not completely awful like someone else from the 90s.
>>319473245
They also have Tim Stellmach, project lead on Thief 1 and 2 and one of the original Looking Glass employees. A bunch of former LG devs currently employed elsewhere are on board as "consultants" for varying design and technical roles.
OtherSide is essentially Looking Glass getting the band back together.
didnt like system shock 1 or 2
i hope its a total change from the other games, like the jump between fo1/2 to fo3
>>319467749
>links to SJW news site
>not the actual thing
Fuck off shill.
>>319482797
just someone's mock up
>>319470260
>implying that's a bad thing
>>319470260
>>319467749
>Polygon
Get out.
>>319483587
Why not just play games you do like instead?
>>319483587
you're not the audience they're going for obviously
fuck off and let other companies ruin other games
>>319470429
>that remake of the Polito's office section
>sparks everywhere
>no sliding walls
>SHITDAN
>>319469805
How is MKX?
>>319470260
Simpler times
>>319473513
There is nothing wrong with not knowing things about games that only people that have played those games know. I bet you sympathize with females who expect guys to be mind-readers.
Now he knows, so chill.
>>319467749
Gonna play the old one just to be disappointed my the new one.
>>319473368
Thief 2 is scarier than several modern horror games.
>>319484446
Did ya like MK 9?
If yes, then its good. If not, then its shit.
>>319485832
I've never been scared by any horror game that wasn't remake. Its non-horror games with horror segments that fuck with me, like the hotel in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.
>>319488042
i liked 9, but knowing that they removed sektor and cyrax made me avoid the game
>>319488232
GOOD THING THEY'RE BRINGING THEM BACK AS THE TRI-BORG IN KOMBAT PACK 2 FOR ONLY $19.99 BUY NOW
>>319472543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgwmnCMpGKw
COME ON DOWN TO THE OTHER SIDE
