Reminder that nothing is more important then TECHNOLOGY and that lack of it is a clear proof of video game devolution.
1. TECHNOLOGY
2. Art design and map design
3. AI
Everything else is not important at all.
>>319417284
>gameplay isn't important at all
ok
>>319417503
If the game has technology it has good gameplay, sperg.
>yeah, this game has amazing ballistics model, body damage and environmental chaos, but the gameplay is kinda lacking
>>319417628
That is fully possible. You can make the technology as amazing as possible but revolve overall gameplay on QTEs. The result is a shit game.
Technology and gameplay isn't the same thing.
>>319417705
Agreed, autismo here either doesn't have a full understanding of what he's talking about or he's doing it on purpose to aspie out on us
>>319417705
No you can not. Technology always means interaction. You just claimed Dragon's Lair had better technology than Pong.
>>319417876
Its a b8 thread m8
>>319417628
Crisis was shit.
>>319417284
Where did his carabiner/keys go?
Just hopping in this thread to say OP might actually be mentally handicapped, please be nice to him.
>>319417284
No.
>>319417996
look closely.
>>319417981
Crysis had very little technology. It didn't innovate FPS genre. It had some decent environmental damage possibilities, and having better texture resolution isn't important if the gameplay is stale.
>>319417284
Wheres the soundtrack homo ?
>>319418445
you sneaky shia
>>319418593
/mu/
>>319417981
I don't understand the Crysis hate. It was a really fun game. I think it gets overlooked because people think it's just a tech demo. If you actually play it, it's kind of like a linear sandbox, if that makes any sense. The gunplay was as good if not better than other FPS's, and the powers added a nice twist. Also driving.
>>319418583
>Crysis had very little technology
Yeah, besides the fact that it was the best looking game for years after its release. Great physics, too. What are you talking about? If anything, most people ONLY think of Crysis as technology, which isn't true as mentioned above.
>>319417284
Wow, Shia has gotten le buff
>>319417284
What's supposed to be going on in this pic? Does Shia have a carabiner with a chain hooked to his crotch zipper or some shit?
>>319419115
Crysis was devolutive compared to old FPS games.
>>319417284
DON'T....
LET.....
YOUR.....
>>319419519
You're a prime example of why there's a devolution. Epic memery symbolizing the advent of social media, upscaled video game that had immoveable environments and simplistic ragdolls (with great map/art design) and there's no need to innovate because what would your kind do with better games anyway?
Go boot up some survival crafting. DO IT!
>>319417284
OP you don't even know how to make a game shut the fuck up ....
>>319419315
How?
>>319417284
Twig legs
>>319418583
I'm not sure what technology is then. If it's gameplay and gameplay innovation, then you could just call it that instead of sticking with whatever shadowy set of ideas fits with your weird associations with the word.
>>319420054
or you could just lurk instead of posting straight out of reddit
>>319420031
he's got fairly normal non-manlet-tryhard lifting legs though. go back to SS, you manlet faggot
>>319420054
Being able to do non-scripted stuff within an interactive environment. Damage models. AI. "Gameplay innovation" is impossible without advancement in the technological side of things and is a far inferior term.
>>319417628
Then why is MGSV so fucking boring? Lots of TECHNOLOGY in there and puts it to no good use whatsoever
>>319419742
autism
>>319417628
what games have amazing ballistics models and good body damage?
>>319419315
How? It seems like you want FPSs to include every single feature or tech that's been invented up to the date they're released, whether it fits in the game or not. That's dumb as fuck.
I've been playing FPSs since Wolfenstein. Sure it's not the best ever, but Crysis is in no way devolutive, and is actually pretty fun, which is what games are about, right?
>>319420205
Not even that guy, but what are you talking about? I've been here since 2006 and I don't know what you're on about.
>>319420276
Crysis does all of that. I don't think you played it.
Actually I've just decided that this is indeed a troll thread. At least I hope so, because there are some seriously stupid things being said.
>>319420205
>Redefine a words to have some derivative meaning.
>Accuse everyone who doesn't recognize your shitty imaginary words of being a redditor despite the fact people in the thread seem to have a definition that differs.
Hmm..
>>319420258
>Shia
>non-manlet
>>319420501
>>319420523
TECHNOLOGY threads have been around since forever. You are literally reddit.
>>319420304
Because it traded TECHNOLOGY of MGS 2 for open world where nothing happens, asset reshuffling and literally no level design. It's a freefall in every category unless you think fultoning a goat is technology while it only serves to eliminate the need for the player to think about stealth.
>>319420382
Very few, almost none.
>>319420686
Yeah, I am aware of TECHNOLOGY threads. This one just doesn't make sense and I'm pretty sure OP (and you if you aren't OP) is on drugs.
>>319417284
What the fuck happened to Shia Lebouf from 25-30?
>>319420686
>2015.
>Fearing Le Reddit bogeymen.
Found the cückold.
>>319420861
Ge got swolle.
>>319420861
What do you mean?
>>319420861
He went crazy. Attributes it to being "artistic." But the dude's nuts.
Crazy or not, though, dude looks good. No homo.
>>319420694
looks like shit
>>319420940
>>319420861
He realized that the more stupid and random shit a celeb does the more popular he becomes
>>319421056
Looks good to me for a game from 2008.
>>319417284
Man, I wish I had money to dress like that and waste on stupid shit like milkshakes.
I'm going to invest in real estate once I get a grad job, fuck earning £80k a year tops after working 9-5 all my life.
>>319421195
He's dressed like a fucking poor person. You can't afford casual clothes and a milkshake?
>>319421376
>you think that tailor fitted outfit is affordable
i bet his boots put him back a few grand alone, don't be fucking stupid
this is not h&m high street clothing, are you blind? jesus
i can afford a milkshake but i can't look this cool with it breh
>>319421675
He just bought one size smaller plain t shirt and skinny jeans. And fucking work boots? Get out of here retard. None of that shit is expensive.
>>319417628
The bowling pins in Wii sports were some of the most sophisticated and accurate physics in any game.
>>319421675
>tailor fitted
He's wearing fucking skinny jeans and a shirt you fucking idiot.
>tailor fitted boots
lmao fuck out the way.
>>319421675
From other pictures, those are standard issue boots, either Army or Marines. Less than $100 new, probably about the same or less from a military surplus store.
I want Dwarf Fortress damage models in 3D games.
>>319421187
Are you fucking blind or just retarded? it looks like absolute shit
>>319421075
Oh god why
>>319422391
hownew.ru
>>319422390
Yeah but not for a game from 2008.
>>319422012
Fucks sake, those are 150 buck plastic nikes.
>>319422390
I bet you think Dwarf Fortress has poor technology too.
Visual fidelity is the bane of complex game systems. The need to see in full detail what’s happening between characters and the environment guarantees that not much interaction is going to happen beyond destroying things or being destroyed. This is why simple-looking games are often more complex than complex-looking ones. Being able to walk, point, and shoot at things within immersive virtual reality is the perfect metaphor for how visual fidelity hamstrings what we can actually do.
Let me boil it down to a question. Which is more exciting to you: Dwarf Fortress, a hideous ASCII-art game which randomly generates and simulates an entire planet, including thousands of years of civilization, historical figures, battles, monuments, cultures, seasonal patterns, creatures, water physics, hunger, thirst, drunkenness, sleep, character moods, relationships, subterranean layers of all manner, crafts, trading, military organization, decoration, landscaping, and individual physiology right down to specific bones and organs that get damaged in combat–or the graphically updated version of Doom 3 playable on the Occulus Rift?
>>319417284
Game play is pretty imprtant. You know the reason for playing games
>>319422631
>giant picture of disgusting lezbo meme actress
>three paragraph long answer because someone didn't like his shitty game
fucking lol, get the fuck outta here
>>319417284
You're right actually.
>>319417284
If technology was so important windows os wouldn't be the monopoly
>>319422762
>This game has shit technology
>This game has shit gameplay
Pick two
>>319417628
>If the game has technology it has good gameplay, sperg.
That's not remotely true. Of course you know this because you're baiting, but whatever.
Gameplay is 80% the product of controls; how fast and responsive and intuitive they are. The rest is abstractions like "feel".
>>319422918
Don't you have some drivers to hunt down to prevent your text processor from spazzing out for the umpteenth time?
>>319420686
Yes, but this isn't one of them.
>>319423117
>programming responsive gameplay model isn't TECHNOLOGY
>>319420852
>>319423185
This whole thread is a bait thread, pure and simple. Nothing else to it.
OP picked a cool but unimportant aspect of games ("technology" just means amusing little gimmicks and easter eggs that Kojima stuffs his games full of, fun but clearly not in any way essential) and pretends it's the most important thing there is, and is surely having a good chuckle at the replies of idiots who took him seriously.
>>319422631
http://www.militarybootsdirect.com/wellco-boots-t160-hot-weather-combat-army.html
They are definitely not Nikes. I have these boots. They began issuing them around 2006. And after looking at them more closely, I'm pretty sure they're Army tan. His pair is just seriously worn the fuck down.
Why am I even talking about this? This isn't /fa/.
>>319423243
It is not. You're using made-up definitions.
TECHNOLOGY is things like guards noticing your footsteps in the beginning of MGS1. Little things like that. It has literally nothing to do with core gameplay, it's always just added little gimmicks.
>>319423434
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/sfb-leather-boot/pid-10265668/pgid-10977011
>>319423539
that's also programming, you dumb retard.
>>319419519
babies grow up to be cowboys
>>319423547
Different picture. Look at the part in red and the breathing ports in green. Not Nikes.
To be fair, the fronts do look like Nikes because of how worn they are. But anyone who has owned Nikes would know they would fall apart before they got that worn.
>>319424004
You have convinced me.
>>319424004
Also, the sole in the nikes look completely flat, unlike the boots.
>>319423629
literally everything in video games is programming.
TECHNOLOGY is when some of that programming is put towards novel shit like ice melding in real time, shot barrels leaking finite liquids, lasers being revealed by your characters cigarette smoke, etc
>>319420694
Mgs3 had more technology. Mgs2 was boring corridors the game
>>319424178
This.
It's little novel shit that doesn't really need to be there, but is cool anyway. Sure, a lot of time it enhances gameplay, but most often it's just something to make you go "haha, oh wow." And then you go back to shooting dudes in the ass.
>>319421675
/fa/ here, those jeans are actually from h&m
>>319424439
mgs 2 had better AI, even more easter eggs, but it had shittier bosses.
>>319424178
yes, that's the point, completely congruous with what i was saying. good responsive gameplay is technology, but employing it in a stale environment with lazy ragdolls contrasts it. good example are platinum/clover games. amazing character design/movement, but everything apart from juggling enemies is crap.
Reminder:
Story and cutscenes are objectively bad. All games should tell story in the format of Zelda 1 and Dark Souls in that story should only be told through gameplay mechanics
>>319420861
He made money from normie movies and got popular, so he had to find new goals in life. Artistic ones
>>319425179
The only thing objectively bad here is prescribing an unique storytelling model to an eclectic medium.
>>319425073
>yes, that's the point, completely congruous with what i was saying. good responsive gameplay is technology,
No it's not. You don't know what the fuck the words you use mean. Stop being fucking stupid. You've been explained ten times what TECHNOLOGY means. It does not mean what you think it does. It does not mean programming and has nothing to do with the everyday English word "technology". It has a specific meaning in the context of games, which has been explained to you.
>>319426309
>ice cubes melt in real time
you do realize this is exactly what programming is?
>>319426449
No it's fucking not, you retard.
>>319426449
>>319426550
do u no how complex the equation for an icecube melting in roomtemperature is
>>319426550
Well to be fair, it is programming, but it's programming that, in most games, doesn't need to be there. Which makes it TECHNOLOGY. In the /v/ sense, which is what we're talking about.
>>319426449
I'll explain like I'm explaining to a five-year-old, since you seem to really need it.
Programming is just creating computer code. It has no special meaning, everything in a game is programmed into it, including all the normal things like menus and just moving around.
TECHNOLOGY, in all capital letters, is abnormal things that didn't need to be in the game, but were put in anyway. Normal things like menus and moving around are never TECHNOLOGY; it by definition has to be something that games normally don't bother with. >>319424178 listed examples. Ice cubes melting is TECHNOLOGY because normally games don't bother with shit like that. It's also an example of programming, but only in the sense that everything in a fucking game is. A character being able to move around, on the other hand, is an example of programming, but not TECHNOLOGY because it's essential to a game and every game has that. TECHNOLOGY is by definition something unnecessary (but cool).
>>319417628
>yeah, this game has amazing ballistics model, body damage and environmental chaos, but the gameplay is kinda lacking
What is Call of Cthulu?
No, seriously. That game has some ridiculously realistic gun physics. But the general gameplay is pretty shit.
>>319427171
>i'm going to make up an arbitrary judgement about what is neccessary and what isn't and then call you stupid for not comforming to it
why stop there? why would menus and moving around be a "neccessary" thing when you can just slam your smart head on the keyboard and make the dot blink in your "neccessary" video game?
>>319427428
Not even that dude, but you're either baiting or retarded. No explanation needed because it is blatantly evident. Only responding because I'm bored.
We are not talking about technology, we are talking about TECHNOLOGY. When on /v/, they are different things.
>he pays more than $30-50 for a pair of shoes that you're supposed to replace every 6 months either way
>>319427893
you are entwined in a logical fallacy as soon as you start marking off things as "unneccessary". it's called slippery slope.
>>319428150
>WE NEED TO PUT EVERYTHING IN EVERY GAME BECAUSE NO ONE CAN DETERMINE WHAT IS NECESSARY
This is how you sound.
>>319428601
not at all. in fact your approach would mark most stuff as "TECHNOLOGY", even menus, because you do not need them to make a video game work. your definition is inherently fallible, no matter how hard you hit that caps lock.
>>319428601
first there was slippery slope, now strawman. do continue.
>>319428021
>supposed to replace every 6 months
Not if you take care of them.
>>319417284
Don't see music on the list, must be a bait.
>>319425073
>good responsive gameplay is technology
but it's not TECHNOLOGY
That's where the difference in what you two are saying. He's using the "TECHNOLOGY" meme that's been on /v/ for years and years and you're using the actual word "technology", without recognizing that the caps means it's something differentand exposing yourself as a newfag
>>319429182
It actually doesn't matter if you take care of them or not. You're supposed to switch roughly every half year, something about the entire sole material just running out of strength or whatever.I don't really care and keep my shoes for years unless my mother offers me money to buy new ones every once in a while.
>>319417284
A game can run at 4k resolution and 120 fps and I can have the best hardware on the planet, if it's boring gameplay it's a shit game.
PCFag logic doesn't work most of the time.
>>319429343
i'm just lazy to use caps all the time
on the other hand you're a sperg doing guesswork
>m-muh oldfag pride
>>319429505
note how i emphasized art design and not texture res/graphix.
>>319421828
>work boots
you've never worked a day in your life
>>319417284
>Reminder that nothing is more important then TECHNOLOGY
Reminder your opinion is shit and no one in the in the industry gives a flying fuck about it.
I work in the industry btw.
>>319430076
you're retarded, those are work boots
>>319427428
Nigga TECHNOLOGY has been a meme forever. Please go back to reddit.
>>319431184
please go back to (you)r hugbox.
>>319430228
hence the devolution.
