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The more I see about the next expansion the less I like.
Class Halls initially sounded so cool, and we hear them say "classes are going back to their roots!".
But then taking a look at the class halls, aside from Paladin and MAYBE Hunter, it's clear that modern Blizzard has no idea what exactly the class roots are/were.
Whose idea was it to put the warrior class hall in Diablo 3 heaven? Did they really feel like they had to 'invent' lore just to fit it with the class? It's such a shame, because Fray Island or even Dire Maul arena/coliseum would have been so much more compelling.
The rest are all somewhat uninspired too. Rogues could have had a guild hall that looked like a normal house/manor as a front, but then had secret passages to enter the real place, just like hmmmm Ravenholdt. The modern devs have no idea for compelling class flavour....
Going to buy it anyway, then unsub a 2-3 months later when it goes back to the trivial solo experience/fuckall to do outside of raid night.
Someone who isn't an obnoxious faggot have some coverage of these class halls? Have only seen the Paladin one for now.
>>319410582
I see where you are coming from but Fray Island is shit m8
>>319410582
>But then taking a look at the class halls, aside from Paladin and MAYBE Hunter, it's clear that modern Blizzard has no idea what exactly the class roots are/were
The warlock one is pretty cool too, OP
>>319410582
Valhalla is as warrior as possible man
>>319410582
We don't know shit about the class halls, what they do, or exactly how they'll look and feel, let alone the lore behind them. You've got a screenshot and heavily WIP visual assets.
Curb your autism and wait until you've actually played the game, jesus christ.
You know not all warriors are edgy barbarians right?
>a tiny island you go to once for a warrior quest would make for a good class hall
>a small section of dire maul would make for a good class hall
Also Ravenholdt burnt down during the fucking ROGUE LEGENDARY WEAPON QUEST in Cataclysm, anyone who actually gives a shit about Rogues would know that.
>>319410582
They had an opportunity to create hubs for each class and they had to fuck it up from the get-go by making YOU the special snowflake leader of the entire class instead, which basically turns the whole feature into another garrison.
>>319411831
They have no problems adding on sections that didn't exist. People who say Ravenholdt couldn't hold that many people forget, could Lights Hope? Oh wait, they can easily just slap in a secret underground chamber. If anyone had one of those it would be the Rogues instead of Paladins. A FIRE in the Warcraft universe is the least of a building's problems.Unless its a fire that destroys a park.
>>319411831
> Cataclysm
> Mists
> WoD
> Not one effort to rebuild.
Could be an interesting introduction, bringing together the scattered members of ravenholdt, rebuilding your class hall, upgrading it, maybe having some references or bits of dialogue for people who have the legendary daggers?
Wait what? Sewers? Yeah that sounds better. Sewers.
>>319410803
> tfw been that way since cata.
>>319412182
They made a point of destroying a place during one of the classes most lore significant event the entire games life span, bringing it back would be stupid.
>>319412372
If they built a new building where the old one was, it wouldn't be ravenholdt manor, it would just be "generic Rogue HQ" built near the ashes of Ravenholdt manor.
At least the sewers of Dalaran exist already, haven't been destroyed, and were a hangout spot for Rogues in the past.
Only reason anyone wants Ravenholdt Manor back is the same reason people want dumb shit like weapon skills or having to go to a class trainer every other level to learn skills again, amber tinted goggles strapped on so tight that blood flow to the brain is severely reduced.
I'm hyped to go back to the wandering isle.
So what does DKs get? Did they just make their current base not as shit and use that?
>>319413043
So far they havent updated Archerus at all other than its location.
>>319413043
Acherus.
So who let those heathen Sunwalkers into the Holy Light's Sanctum?
The only thing I am hyped about is finally be able to play a Gnome hunter. Hopefully that will be avaiable at the pre patch.
>That Rogue sewer
>They didn't even had new sewers, literally just added gold piles and a new arena room
>>319411868
A cross faction class hub would be pretty sweet actually. Maybe some content crafted for single class parties.
>>319410582
Yeah they sure do understand paladins. Tauren and blood elves coming to chill in a Silver Hand church between bouts of murdering Alliance citizens is definitely a thing that makes sense.
>>319413240
>Its not even inhabited by other Rogues, just hobos and a pie seller
>>319413357
Silver Hand hasnt been Alliance exclusive in ages. Also stop acting like the Alliance hasnt done terrible things.
My biggest issue is Druids.
>Literally an entire zone dedicated to them already
>As in it shows up on the fucking continental map
>They just make a new one because the old one wasn't "Druid-y" enough
>Can't just remake Moonglade like they do fucking everything
>>319413357
Taurens, not so much. But Belfs make perfect sense.
>>319410582
>waah roguie want ravenholdt wahhh
Man i thought shamans were bad. You faggots will not stop bitching about this shit.
So which class halls are actually confirmed?
Paladins under Lights Chapel and Rogues in the sewers where they belong. What about the rest?
>>319413443
The blood elf paladin mount quest literally involves you defiling and burning down the chapel in Stratholme
>>319413114
velen taught them how to harness the light properly they're not heathens anymore
>>319413662
All of them m8 how new
>>319413714
While true the Blood Knights are a true paladin order now and not Ur-Paladins.
People in Warcraft turn the other cheek enough to make Jesus weep.
>>319413996
>The Alliance in Warcraft turn the other cheek enough to make Jesus weep.
Fixed that for you.
>>319411868
yeah I don't get this and garrisons.
Who thought it was a good idea to have players be "the chosen one" in a fucking MMO
I think age of conan did the same shit and everyone mocked them.
>>319413874
So they turned their back on their faith, or are An'she and the Light one and the same in Warcraft now?
>>319414048
>The Alliance are LITERAL cvcks
ftfy
>>319414145
Nobody, and especially the current WoW development team, has any idea what you are talking about nerd.
>caring about order halls
You go there, set your not-followers out on their missions, then either go back to the grind or AFK in Dalaran.
What's really ass about this expansion is the second ability prune they're doing under the guise of "talent revamps." I'd honestly wager that at least a third of the "hundreds of new talents!" are old abilities/traits that used to be baseline.
>>319410582
Yeah they're going so far back to their roots that they will have less abilities than in Vanilla times. Oh and it still will be samey as fuck with about every class having charge and such.
Fuck Blizzard. Do not listen to their lies.
>>319414069
Who thinks it is a good idea to not be a fucking hero by now?
>instead of a cool monastry type building priests get Naaru shit
>draenei architecture
fuck off naaru nobody likes you
Who plays draenei priest anyway
>>319414263
You don't have to tell me that, blizzard can't even keep track on what happens to their major characters.
>>319414349
No idea.
you get a free fucking ashbringer now.
>>319414327
Wait. Vanilla had the most abilities since you used low level spells.
>>319414429
I do for ERP purposes
What is even the point of a class hall ?
Do you just hang around to circlejerk about other classes are OP ?
My sub runs out tonight and I am on the fenc about resubbing for another month. I was going to prepare for Legion like getting Heroic Archimonde achieve, but WoD is so boring it is unreal.
Now that Legion has disappointed in more than 1 are a (Demon Hunter with 12 abilities WTF) I am not sure I want to resub at all.
I should probably just say fuck it and come back in 3-4 months and see if Legion will be good.
>>319414710
New garrison
>>319414710
Honestly its just a glorified daily spot. Nobody playing this game cares about class unity. I hope Blizzard doesnt think people are going to go there and socialize about their builds and class lore. In reality you're going to pop in, grab quests you want, maybe say something to the other faction like bur kek then leave.
>>319414886
>socialize about their builds and class lore.
>builds when there is only cookie cutter builds left
>lore when nothing make sense anymore
>>319410582
>Ravenholdt meme
Shut the fuck up, you have no right to complain about people not knowing the lore when you don't even know Ravenholdt has been a smoldering ruin since Cataclysm.
>>319414282
>"hundreds of new talents!" are old abilities/traits that used to be baseline.
did you see the new pvp talents? that's exactly what they're doing
>>319414984
>they can't rebuild the mansion
>being a retarded unironic shitposter
The entire idea that characters would care more about their class than their race/faction while at the same time not combining the factions is so incredibly retarded I don't understand how even somebody at Blizzard didn't stick their hand up during a meeting and say "hey, you know this entire concept is fucking stupid?"
>>319414538
Frost Death Knights apparently get Frostmourne reforged into two Swords.
Is that really a good idea? To create a million Lich Kings?
>>319415150
>Is that really a good idea?
A question that nobody at Blizzard has thought to ask in the last 8 years.
Is Stormwind park fixed yet?
>>319410582
>Class Halls
Autists being worshipped by NPCs in their lil' safe space. That's literally what a class hall is, and that's the type of player Blizzard is forced to cater to in WoW. Why? Because nobody else plays the game anymore.
If you still play this game, you are so far beyond redemption. I don't think you faggots even realize how far gone you are.
>>319415150
Bolvar's already pretty much corrupted and THE Lich King now. And we kill Arthas and Ner'zhul's souls in the frostmourne quest.
>>319414812
I resubbed for the Heroic Archie kill and already gave up, it's just not fun. Trying to clear normal HFC is like tearing hair out and it just makes me nostalgic for the progression raiding I did in vanilla.
Maybe if I could find a guild of similarly burnt-out raiders to do some light weekly raiding with, but that's something you'd need connections for and I literally can't think of anyone left from that decade-old guild.
>>319410803
yeah same here
>resub
>gear up
>raid until i've seen everything
>leave
>>319415241
I'm still there for the porn man
>>319411551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZyoGNUoMDA
>>319415280
Fucking with it still seems like an unnecessary stupid risk.
>>319415280
>and Ner'zhul's
according to the Lich King book Ner'zhul is fully dead and gone, Arthas completely destroyed his soul
Did they retcon that?
>>319415090
You mean just like they rebuilt Stormwind Park? :^)
>valhalla isnt warrior shit
This board is getting dumber by the minute
>>319415280
>>319415497
Shouldn't there now be a new Ner'zhul with Warlords of Draenor?
Or a timeline B Ner'zhul.
>>319415241
You sound like a joyless person
>>319415241
Me again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6CWue7voA0
1:38
Look at this shit.
Fucking look at it.
Faggot.
LOOK AT IT.
You are now playing Wizard 101.
>>319412749
nice fucking logic mate.
dalaran was destroyed quite spectacularly in wc3. and guess what they brought it back in wotlk. and it wasn't just "generic floating city", it was a new dalaran. so why the fuck is it entirely different when a simple wooden manor is razed? why wouldn't they rebuild it, or build it UNDER the ashes of the manor, basically any fucking shadowy corner of azeroth that isn't part of the main fucking city in legion
>>319415539
>>319415597
we killed him in a 5 man
>>319415597
Dreanor Ner'zuhl got killed
>>319415497
Maybe? You fight Arthas and Ner'zhul at the same time while purging souls from frostmourne. Arthas whacks you, Ner'zhul blinks around the room shooting shit at you that you need to dodge.
It could be that Arthas killed Ner'zhul with frostmourne and just had the blade eat his soul or something, idk.
>trusting blizz with lore
>>319415597
we killed him before he got any character development.
>>319415090
>stratholme has been burning for more than a decade
>stormwind park is still a crater in the middle of the human capital
>but a bunch of rogues and outlaws can definitely rebuild Ravenhold overnight!
Who's being the retarded shitposter?
>>319415497
They could retcon it at any moment.
Books and comics are sorta canon until the games downright retcon them.
Medan is a good example.
>Vanessa is still alive
>She even becomes your follower after you beat her
>>319415801
Are you seriously letting in game NPCs take the blame for blizzard's incompetence?
>Who's being the retarded shitposter?
gotta be you
>>319415712
>It could be that Arthas killed Ner'zhul with frostmourne and just had the blade eat his soul or something, idk.
Ner'zhul in TFT pretty much resided solely in the crown IIRC
in the novel Arthas and Ner'zhul had a sort of spirit battle in the crown which Arthas won completely destroying Ner'zhul as well as what was left of his humanity
>>319415919
yeah, i read the book, i know arthas fucked up ner'zhul, but let me see if if i can find it.
Okay so lets fix DK mobility.
Blood Trail: For every enemy in combat with the Death Knight their speed is increased by X%. If the enemy is injured, speed is increased by Y%. Caps at 20-40% bonus movement.
Path of Frost: Now passively increases the movement speed of the Death Knight (Frost) by 20%. Increase party movement speed by 10%. Does not remove on hit. Does not stack with Windwalker speed bonus.
Dark Transformation (Unholy): During Dark Transformation your passive benefit of Death's Advance is doubled.
>>319416101
You have death grip though
>>319416101
Deathknights should be able to deathgrip themselves towards other players.
>>319416101
Why do people complain about classes being homogenised but then cry when their class doesn't have something they want? Death Knights are not meant to be mobile.
>>319415893
thank god, shes a qt
>>319416257
You can if a hunter uses reflected deterrence. That feels so amazing
>>319416248
One single target gap closer which doesn't even CC is not going to help you from being kited for days. Plus you have the issue of DK tanks slowing the group down when every other class is going 30-40% faster than them at all times.
>>319416257
Why?
Why do all classes need functionally the same fucking charge?
>>319416353
you're a cool guy
>>319416304
Since when is mobilization homogenization? Either way balance is more important than class fantasy. The speed itself can be done in a way that isn't similar to other tanks.
I mean, the warrior one is pretty much the wow version of valhalla. It was either that, or just a fire pit with guys oiling their weapons, and you can see why they didnt go with that.
>>319416460
Charge only works towards enemies.
>>319410582
nope, fuck having some shitty island with spikes everywhere as your class hall. i've been playing since vanilla on and off, and i've seen how warriors went from having really polished, detailed, sometims even elegant armor to generic barbarian horseshit that looks like it was dragged from a junkyard. warriors NEED their finesse back, valhalla is a step in the right direction.
Monks now hoist their staves over their shoulders while out of combat. Huh
>>319416915
Just Monks?
Cool either way though.
>>319415919
k, so phone wont upload pictures cause it's fucking retarded. But arthas stabs ner'zhul, and he vanishes. That's it. Confirmed that arthas banishes him from his mind and soul, but not that he kills the orc.
>>319416915
holy shit that face
>>319416915
i bet the clipping will be horrendous
He's back baby
And you're his agent
>>319416985
Yeah I was having issues with my phone as well
>>319416915
Shit, just need a barrel and Brewmaster is perfect.
>>319417105
What kind of work am I trying to get him? Acting? Singing?
>>319417105
Bolvar's LK model looks like ass.
>tfw always wanted to play demon hunter
>then seeing the current abysmal state of the game and even worse development direction
Dem mixed feels
>>319417108
Barrels confirmed on the artifact.
>>319413714
That's no problem since the quest doesn't exist anymore :^)
>>319417106
looks like he just got ate by frostmourne then.
>>319417106
What the fuck? But there was no body when Arthas ascended to the throne
>>319417105
He's a big guy.
>>319417247
demon hunter looks fucking boring. part dk part demonology warlock. i can already tell what a homogenised shitheap it's going to be after the first content patch
>>319417360
no shit. this is in arthas's head.
>>319417174
Baking cakes with Uther
>>319412749
>bringing it back would be stupid
Like Stormwind?
>>319416915
Cool, now show one with oversized shoulderpads.
>>319417450
Okay....this is why I don't read the books
>>319417541
You can turn shoulders off.
>>319417106
>dat awful writing
>steps behind him
god somebody kill this women
>>319417598
But I want that pose and shoulderpads. What now, Blizzard?
>>319417105
Is it just me or is the helm comically oversized?
>>319417598
When did this happen? Shit, sounds like one of the few good decisions they've made recently.
>>319417675
Suicide is the only option I think.
>>319417725
Then kill yourself.
>>319410582
In an odd bit or irony, the warrior class hall fits paladins better, with its light motifs, god, and being a castle in the sky.
The paladin hall, if you get rid of the silver hand banners, fits warrior better, with its decapitated foes, map room, weapon racks, and training areas.
>>319411547
This is something people keep getting confused by.
From an aesthetics standpoint the hall is wonderful. It looks amazing.
From an immersion stand point, its a hall led by a demi-god who uses light based attacks, has bridges made of light that turn people into light, is peopled by golden angels and golden immortal golems, and all in all isnt that fitting to warrior.
Blizzard seems like it's one full like recently
Blatant copy pasta from failed Diablo 3.
No flying to drag out content
Cutting a raid tier because wod was only a year long, only to have wod be just as long as mop.
The fuck
>>319417793
>>319417627
the writing wasn't that bad. i liked it all in all.
>>319414349
A hero, sure. THE hero, not so much.
>>319417627
Then, having placed a soul shard under the table, he was done. Or should have been done. But Arthas was something of an adrenaline junkie and enjoyed being where he was. That's why he checked the cupboards, located some cereal, and had breakfast before putting everything back exactly as it had been. It was his house now, meaning a place where everything that happened would be known to him, and to The Cult of the Damned. The thought pleased him and Arthas was still smiling as he left.
>>319414812
Fuck me, I actually think that picture looks awesome. I can't stand the stupid direction they're taking the gameplay in, but my inner 14-year old won't forgive me if I don't play as that thing.
>>319414069
Most MMO do that nowadays. SWTOR, FFXIV (its way worse in ffxiv than in wow), I think even TERA is doing it now.
Its just how things are now.
>>319417914
>>319415893
>Mathias Shaw of SI:7 is one of the rogue followers
>He's for some reason not sticking his dagger deep into her heart.
>>319418003
>not posting the pissing in the plants part
>>319417914
So people like this are why acti-blizz still exist...
>>319418038
I read it before i played wc3, cause i got into WoW late. content was interesting, couldn't talk on the writing itself, but i recall really enjoying the book all in all.
>>319418106
Jesus Christ you weren't kidding
>>319418218
I agree that wow writing is bad.
But at this point its like its expected. Its supposed to be campy and nonsensical. It's one of those "Shut your head off and have fun" kinda games which were so popular before games became trendy.
>>319417106
Is it really this easy?
I should become a writer.
>>319418031
It just doesn't make sense.
If I wanted to play the chosen one I would play any other genre. In MMOs I want to be just one of many soldiers.
>>319415497
You mean just like they retconned that being possible in the first place.
>>319410582
I'm a troll druid and I'm perfectly fine with druid class hall, even if it's just NE-themed.
>Illidan imprisoned by his brother and guarded by Maiev for 10 thousand years.
>Suddenly thousands of them running about
Maiev and Malfurion are going to have a fucking field day.
>>319419246
It's Maiev herself that releases them, actually :^)
>garrison with a different name
>ITS SO COOL
kill yourself
>>319418276
>just as Leng was about to pee in the vase he had selected for that purpose, something happened.
Thank you for posting that anon, I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
>>319419306
Maiev is pretty much nuts nowadays.
>>319411868
Oh god and I thought the whole COMMANDURRR thing was cringeworthy. Are they seriously doing that? Embarrassing.
NO GUYS I AM ACTUALLY THE BEST MAGE AND IN FACT THE LEADER OF THE WHOLE CLASS I WILL TELL YOU HOW TO NOT STAND IN FIRE.
So are they shared zones where all players of your class meet up, or is it just a shitty fucking solo instance?
>>319419581
Probably shared zones with everyone being a leader of a class or some other bullshit....
>>319414625
no it didnt you piece of shit even with flash of light filling a whole bar thee are still way more spells fuck off retard
>>319410582
there is one thing that'll get me to buy this shit
>UNDEAD
>ELVES
>FUCKING WHEN
i want to be a qt dark ranger like sylvanas pls
>>319419372
I dont know why /v/ keeps pushing disinfo. You cant stop the Legion hype train. Its going to save the genre THIS TIME FOR REAL.
>>319419581
>>319419710
It's literally just going to be garrisons with a new paint job. They'll be instanced so you can feel like a rough and tough dude while you play your facebook minigames.
>mfw I proposed Emerald Dream as a class hall for druids in 2006
>that faggot Thyvene told me to fuck off
>now they put class halls in the game
WEW
E
W
>>319419581
Its a shared zone. So basically you're surrounded by dozens of other Paladins with Ashbringers and all the NPCs say "Good to see you Highlord Naruto." "Good to see you Highlord Steve420."
Honestly they should have just made everyone class champions. Its too late to resolve the artifact issue, but Blizzard could still undo the writing of you being the leader of the class order.
>>319414282
Old talent tree was shitty as fuck though. 2% increase to damage, fucking yey. 1% to hit with spells woooooooooooow. At least they do a bit more now and most of the "mandatory" points in the older trees are passives to the spec.
Both end up being "this build is the best" anyway so they're pretty pointless.
>>319419710
>>319419581
As I understand itm it's a private zone shared by members of the same class
So as I understand it you're going to be in the order hall along with a couple of hundred other mooks at the same time
this was the only solution they could think sp we wouldnt get a repeat of the solo experience garrisons got us in WoD
yes blizzard is THAT braindead
>>319420113
See
>>319419990
The zone is shared with all other players from both factions of that class. The missions are not garrison-like. You are the going on the missions.
>>319410958
Preach, although he could be an obnoxious faggot for you.
>>319418004
Idk how it's going to be in legion but the gameplay in WoD was better than the others, the content is shit though.
>>319415497
The more of Golden's crap writing we can retcon the better
>>319418324
Its what people want, sadly. "Cinematic experience"
>>319415649
Dalaran gets destroyed any time anything bad happens in Lordaeron, and then they rebuild it because they're fucking wizards, rogues are not fucking wizards, therefore it's much harder for them to rebuild a massive secret complex instead of just moving somewhere else
>>319416101
Death Knights shouldn't have good mobility.
>>319420392
What good is being a wall of death if any ranged in the game can kite you with ease? No, Death Grip barely does shit.
>>319420459
Death grip and your fairly efficient CC. You also murder melee like no other.
So shut the fuck up.
>>319415614
oh man that's like the worst antihype trailer i have seen in a while
and i thought about subbing for 1-2months when legion launches
>>319415614
>>319420783
should have seen the live reveal in germany
the audience was so unenthused it was hilarious
>>319421054
Will they ever have the balls to make 1 per server items like the scarab of AQ ?
>>319410582
>tfw DKs have always had story specific areas with unique class vendors and structures.
>DKs have story abilties aka death coil, horn of winter, blood tap.
Why play the other uninspired classes?
>DK clearly most compelling class
>>319421128
you mean from the gong ringing event?
i didnt think those scarabs were limited to one per server though?
>>319421207
Im returning to the true meta class now that they fixed Blood. We unstoppable now.
>>319421207
>DKs have story abilties aka death coil, horn of winter, blood tap.
i main dk and what the fuck are you talking about?
>>319414886
>Nobody playing this game cares about class unity.
Man that's really a shame. I played druid from day of vanilla to middle of MoP and I still remember way back in the day us druids had some sort of 'honor code', maybe because we shared Moonglade.
>>319421330
Well if a owner migrated to a server with another owner there would be two but you could only ring the gong to open AQ once per server, hence why everytime a new server was open until WotLK a massive amount of people went there to do the quest and get a shot at the mount.
>>319421330
>>319421128
they were not
everybody who got the questline finished before the gong wos gonged (kek) got the mount
i did it on a server with like 15 other people
your server just had to wait with all the cloth and other trade goods offerings
is this the most expensive expansion?
i remember 30€ per xpac or something
>>319410582
why the flying fuck would you need a class hall?
>>319421330
Weren't a lot of people there not blizzard fans? LIke you can spot some of the LoL folk in that crowd. The response at blizzcon was overwhelmingly positive, not a fair comparison either honestly, but you cant point at a crowd of people not interested and go "Look at how shit its going to be."
>>319421676
>i did it on a server with like 15 other people
never got to do the quest myself but i remember a load of people on my server having the monut
also I'm pretty sure WoD was the same price and maybe MoP
>>319415570
im sure none orc worshipped sky gods
>>319421654
It wasn't exactly one per server, though. You could still complete the quest for 10 hours after the initial banging. But the quest was such a monumental task to complete that it very, VERY rarely ended in more than 1-3 scarab lords per server.
>>319421696
its just quest hub for all class members and place to upgrade legendary weapon
>>319410582
>jay wilson
>>319421943
you get my point anyway, except memelords like
>>319421676
that rushed it on new servers before all servers were launched with opened doors it ended up a limited item impossible to obtain later on.
>>319410582
The issue is that your taste is so shit you thought Garrison 2.0 sounded good in the first place
Quick /v/ what are your top 3 picks for main in Legion?
Currently Im looking at
Survival Hunter
Fire Mage
Unholy DK
>>319417679
It looks like that to me as well.
>>319422602
Warrior
Monk
Wildcard
As always. Rogue is really interesting with the Outlaw but who knows if it will actually be viable or not.
>>319422602
frost dk
havoc dh
affliction lock
>>319422602
Fire Mage
Unholy DK
Enhance Shaman (just for Doomhammer)
>>319421696
>>319422245
Players like the idea of having a somewhat customizable area. The farm in MoP for instance, despite being so minor, was incredibly popular.
Then they over did it in WoD.
Legion the class hall is mostly just a quest hub and hang out area. It wont be a requirement for professions, and it wont have the facebook missions.
>>319414145
>>319413874
an'she worship is ancient and older than the holy church in warcraft, tauren just forgot about it over the thousands of years they have lived
>>319422916
>He wants to always have hillariouslly mismatched weapons
Doomhammer artifact would be a lot better as elemental. Rather than making it enhance so your offhand will always be the same magma mace.
>>319422602
Disc Priest
Holy Priest (fallback if Disc's damage+healing gimmick doesn't work well)
Whichever Rogue spec has the most interesting rotations at launch
>>319422934
There ARE followers in the class hall.
>>319422602
Survival Hunter
Marksman Hunter
Unholy DK
Outlaw Rogue
Shadow Priest
Balance Druid
Can't choose just 3 for now.
>>319423050
We could kill thrall and take his Doomhammer as well...
oopps sorry thrall is immune. Only varian gets to die
so whats the deal with UH DKs?
>>319423307
Dont buy into the meme, everything is passive and its gonna be a braindead spec like Beast Mastery
>>319423221
there are followers but they don't do things for you, rather you quest with them. when you pick a daily zone with quests and shit they follow you into the fight.
>>319423452
which means you still get to play autism simulator with your followers
furthermore, we dont know how involved the quests will actually be
>>319421696
I'm a friend of a Blizzard game designer. I have some info on how the Class Order Halls will pan out. Basically, it's gonna be like this:
1.) You have 8 "Champions" total. You can take these Champions with you on missions (daily/weekly/story quests), up to 4 of them at a time. Champions like Lord Maxwell Tyrsosu, Darion Mograine, etc. You can also send some champions and units under them on Garrison-like quests as well, but they are less frequent than the Garrison missions in WoD.
2.) You have a bunch of quest NPCs there who you will interact with for your own classes' storyline that isn't tied to the artifact. It's not much but each class gets some unique quests, including dailies.
3.) Obviously this is also the place where you upgrade and customize your artifact. The artifact quests shown so far are only the first stage, there is another quest line for each class to upgrade the artifact at level 110. One example is Tyr blessing the Ashbringer after you kill a faceless general.
4.) Class Halls have their own class-specific chat. Some NPCs have flavor text and some other minor shit.
>>319415090
On top of that everyone from Ravenholdt left are busy being Wrathion's bitchboys
>>319423653
they're confirmed to be dailies as in go kill this, gather that, standard mmo shit.
>>319423770
and youre assuming they wont still have traits and levels?
>>319423708
I have some info for you as well my friend, you should kill yourself!
>>319423838
stop projecting
>>319423907
>projecting
I don't think you understand how to use that term my friend.
Also
>saying what is essentially n-no you!
>>319423907
stop rejecting
>>319423827
i don't think i ever explicitly suggested that was the case, no.
>>319415893
>Rogues
>ever trusting other rogues
Sorry bitch, you knew what you signed up for.
>>319424159
then you are still gonna need to build up your followers and do menue shit with them retard
>>319422602
DEMO LOCK
I'm no shill but I looked over talents and abilites and it looks real fun. I don't like meta desu
>>319415614
Sorry, Medivh's back?
>>319424647
No they deliberately copied the scenes from WC3 to try to entice old players back with muh nostalgia
>>319413519
He's right though. Blizzard barely has a fucking clue when it comes to class flavor for rogues
>>319424495
you realize they can just level with you out in the open as you kill mobs with them just how they do now when you have the barracks right? it's reasonable to assume they won't be automated and that'll be the way they increase in power. "retard".
![warlockClassHall10[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6SlYhwR.jpg "warlockClassHall10[1].jpg")
started playing in WODand my main is a dk but thinking of making my warlock alt my full time main since
>Acherus looks like it won't even get its textures updated
>90% of frost talent tree is just passive damage increases
>unholy mite b cool but too many passives atm
>>319423306
We are using Thrall's doomhammer. Thrall becomes moody and depressed in legion and gives up.
We arent using the Draenor doomhammer.
>>319425089
what the fuck
why the FUCK are we not using 2 doomhammers
>>319425023
>started playing in WOD
disgusting
>>319411551
You are the reason Blizzard does this.
>>319425123
Blizz likely forgot Ogrim had one.
Or maybe we get it as part of a later quest, though I find that doubtful.
Blizz are the ones who were associated Lothar with paladins, till a tidle wave of fans told them "Lothar wasnt a paladin you dumbasses"
my favorite criticism of wow is that all of the classes have been homogenized as if they all had unique gameplay options in vanilla and bc
spoiler: every class pressed 1-3 buttons over and over again back then
>>319425414
Yea man just forget about when only shamans could bloodlust and buffs were class specific!
>>319422602
fire mage
shadow priest
fury warrior
>>319425505
>responding to bait
>>319421128
i remember playing on sylvanas EU and some faggot night elf got it and whenever he was seen on server he would be riding the default night elf mount... what a waste
>>319420158
Old talent builds were at least more diverse than what we have now, TBC's being the most flexible. Should plebs using cookie-cutter builds mean the rest of us can't do what we want?
>>319425505
and that effects gameplay how?
if I have a mage and warlock when I play them they're both completely different in how they play. in fact each of their 3 specs all play completely different from each other
if I played a mage and warlock in vanilla i would cast only frostbolt/fireball/shadowbolt no matter what.
What does /v/ think of demo rework?
>>319425724
fire and destro are both crit/mastery stacking specs that use basic attacks to charge up a big burst
shut the fuck up retard
>>319425670
>Old talent builds were at least more diverse than what we have now
you're kidding right?
old talent builds were sometimes 100% cookie cutter, at best you could choose between 2 or 3 meaningless talents they had no real impact
now most classes have multiple talent setups depending on the type of fight (aoe/st/cleave) for each spec
>>319425863
yea fire sure builds up a resource consistantly that is then used on a huge nuke spender and can cleave onto specific targets with single target or turn their st into hitting everything in an area
and destro sure does rely on crits to cast rolling big nukes and then turn a huge passive dot into an even more massive one with a cd
>>319411551
>heavily WIP
Nice try, shill. They're not finished, but they're not *heavily* WIP. They'll probably just drop in the NPC's and a few doodads and that'll be it. What we've seen in videos from the Alpha are pretty much what we're going to get, and what we're going to get is going to be shit.
>>319426131
Um yes retard
Fire Mage pools 3 crits before casting, and GoSac applies additional Chaos Bolt damage as a dot
shut the kuck up kid
>>319412749
>amber tinted goggles
>amber
You couldn't even get the stupid fucking buzzword right.
But enjoy yet another unfinished, underwhelming $50 expansion, I guess.
so what everyone doing while waiting the expansion? its literally 10 months away from release. lol some players keep playing that time with no content imagine that.
>>319422602
Outlaw Rogue
Enhance (chain proc wind fury is back)
Unholy (two skellingtons)
>>319426545
cancer incarnate
>>319425863
Destro was just about making shadowbolt spam better
>>319422602
Blood DK
BrewmasterVengeance DH
>>319426131
Maybe for like AQ40/Naxx when everyone became hyperspecialized, but there were a lot of viable builds for various purposes. Shaman for instance, although somewhat hamstrung in PvE content past 20 man, had total freedom when building for PvP because of how many roles the class could fulfil, some simultaneously.
PvE for Resto mostly varied in terms of what you wanted to invest in after 31 points, while enhance admittedly had to stick to a fairly rigid Enh/Resto (gotta have dat Nature's Guidance) with a leftover ~7 points to do with what they wanted (though they could opt for tank talents for 5-mans).
>>319426545
Holy shit, that photoshop. May as well just draw a fanart.
New beta build when? Im tired of not knowing half the classes artifact trees.
>>319427136
vanilla was the worst in terms of talents and viability
>>319426545
Getting shitloads of money for Legion.
>>319426545
farming gold flimflam
