Episodic release....
ugh they ruined it already
They ruined if long before that.
>ugh
sigh
well let me ask you, what would you do?
>>319306526
Release the whole game or don't show it and cock tease the fanbase at all.
RESKINNED FF15
>>319306947
Well except we're actually getting FFXV as a full game.
>>319306107
>remake FF7 in the highest possible quality with today's videogame standards, without any cuts and a lot of new shit, and release it within this decade
>remake FF7 skipping almost everything, without anything knew and with low quality graphics
>OP would rather have this last choice
I was actually happy when they said episodic because otherwise they would have cut a ton of shit. The scale they are going for and what people were wanting from the game is too big for the average $60 game budget alone. HD graphics with proper animations and attention to detail isn't going to be cheap or fast to create just because it's 2015 and not 1997.
So how many releases are they going to have? One for each disc? 5? 10?
>>319307135
FFXV won't have anywhere near the same scale or level of detail of a proper 3D FF7
>>319307227
I'm more on the side of "why does this need to be remade"
>>319307368
Where do you retards keep pulling this nonsense from?
FF7 was already 3D, and the world wasn't even that big.
Are you just telling yourself that to reassure yourself that they're not just trying to give you a Midgar Explorer Simulator?
XV is already bigger than 7 was in 1998, and there's no reason the remake can't fit into it's world.
>>319307227
Seriously, what this guy said >>319307463 is the only correct answer.
If you were born well after the hey-day of FF7 then get some buddies, a copy of the game, and lock yourself away and enjoy the experience. Otherwise, quit marketing for companies that just want to sell you the same shit with a different wrapper.
>>319307463
Because peoples wanted it ever since that tech demo
For like 10 years Square just kept saying it would be physically impossible to remake it with this level of graphic and details and they sure as fuck weren't lying.
Today they finally found a good compromise and peoples are bitching because they don't know shit about videogame development.
Ridiculous really.
>>319307291
7 parts
20$ for each part
>>319307615
>FF7 was already 3D
Retard
3 polygons everything and the sheer size of a map doesn't fucking matter, it's what that big square contain and the level of details it is made with.
>>319307463
It needs to be remade to sell PS4s.
They're not even being blunt about it.
This is why they need to shit the game out in chunks because they realized they wouldn't be able to finish it before 2018 at the very earliest, and by then the PS4 would only have 2 maybe 3 years left until the PS5 comes along.
>>319307615
See look at this fucking world map. That's way bigger than FF7, why not just use something like that?
OH RIGHT BECAUSE THEY WANT YOUR MONEY UP FRONT
>>319307973
It was 3D, just not HD you fucking idiot.
XV on the other hand is HD, and that world map is already bigger than FF7's, and it only took 4 years to make.
>>319306107
>Episodic release
source? if it really is episodic screw square i'll never buy anything from them again
>>319306526
what would you do if we weren't living in capitalism? should have been your question
>>319307615
Remaking the world map to scale would be pretty tough.
>>319307973
Uh, it was the first 3D FF.
>>319308267
No it fucking wouldn't.
That map is already bigger than FF7's and it took 1-2 years to produce, and 4 years to develop.
>>319307615
>>319308137
The vast majority of that map is greenry and padded roads idiot.
Do you want 3D graphic on the level of a PS1 game or a PS4 game?
PS1 3D Cloud takes 5 minute to make, this PS4 Cloud would take several month alone. Now do this with the whole environment, without the limit of fixed camera.
Go fucking read some basic game development books you retard, it's pathetic to be this clueless.
>>319308232
A parody account that for some reason everyone is taking as legit.
>>319308339
That's not fucking point. The 3D was basic as shit, doing everything with the level of todays graphics change everything and take infinitly much more time.
Holy shit, are you all 12?
>>319308465
>The vast majority of that map is greenry and padded roads idiot.
oh shit I didn't realize you've already played the full game
fuck I'm sorry
>it's pathetic to be this clueless.
oh boy you're telling me!
>>319308339
3D models.
A good chunk of the game was represented by 2D pre-rendered images. None of the PS1 FF games could really claim to be fully 3D.
>>319308613
>didn't even play Duscae
Keep being an underage dumbass.
>>319308616
the world map was 3D
>>319308743
>judging an entire game by a demo to protect episodic money gouging
I'm neither underage nor a dumbass, but you clearly are a dumbass.
>>319308764
And?
>>319308442
Money is also a factor. Not just time. If SE can manage a full size world map by doing episodic releases then I don't mind so much.
>>319308931
Just look at the trailer genius. Do you seriously expect the whole map to have the same level of details as GTA5?
AHAHAHAHA
>>319308943
And you're an idiot arguing semantics.
>>319308952
They can manage it it without doing episodic nonsense. They're swimming in money thanks to XIV.
They're just not doing it because they can make money by making it episodic.
>>319306107
Looks like shit
>>319309040
>conjecture followed by AHAHAHAHA
well played
>>319309104
No really, what's your point? Just because FF7 was 3D mean they can magically make it the same with UE4 graphics?
You're not retarded enough to believe this right?
>>319309198
I know, it's the definite truth after all.
>>319308550
>SE's official website is a parody account
literally what
BRO WHY CAN'T WE RELEASE THIS GAME IN FULL
CAN'T FIT BRO
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
TOO MUCH DETAIL MAN
ARE YOU SURE I MEAN A BLURAY DISC IS LIKE 100GB AND 1TB VERSIONS WILL BE OUT BY TH TIME THIS NEARS COMPLETION
NAH CAN'T FIT TOO BIG BRO WE NEED THE POWER OF EPISODES THAT WAY WE CAN CHARGE PEOPLE FOR THEM
HOLY SHIT THAT'S GENIUS OKAY KEEP SAYING IT'S TOO BIG BUT DON'T TELL THEM WHY IT'LL BE HILARIOUS
PFFFTHAHAH THESE IDIOTS ACTUALLY THINK FF7'S SCALE HOLDS UP TODAY
SSSHUT UP DUDE- WHAT OH UH WE NEED TO GET RID OF OLD CONTENT FOR NEW CONTENT
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS YET SO WE'LL TELL YOU NEXT TIME
>mfw people are eating this shit up
>>319309281
You're missing the point, and your grammar is terrible.
>Original game was on three disks as one release
>Remake will be on three disks as three releases
I don't understand
>>319309698
So what is your point?
>>319309770
>remake will be on 7 episodes as three separate releases each priced as full games
FTFY
>>319306107
"If we tried to stuff the whole game into one release, some part of the game would have to appear as digests," Nomura said.
"We'd have to remove some contents from the game, and it would be difficult to add more to the game.
Considering that a full remake of the original game must be achived, we have decided to split the game into episodes."
Kitase added that the game will be dense, with players able to explore various locations within Midgar that they couldn't before.
>>319309879
But what if the content is fully worth full price 7 times?
You essentially get 7 games of your dear FF7, why wouldn't like this?
>>319307227
>without any cuts
but its a remake, not a remaster. The story would/should go to a whole new direction after the start
>>319309937
>If we tried to stuff the whole game into one release, some part of the game would have to appear as digests,
Absolute rubbish, are the honestly trying to imply this game is going to be 5 terabytes big or some fucking bullshit?
>We'd have to remove some contents from the game, and it would be difficult to add more to the game
Then don't add more, just remake the fucking game without the bullshit nobody asked for.
>Kitase added that the game will be dense, with players able to explore various locations within Midgar that they couldn't before
whoa more corridors fucking awesome
What about that world map guys?TOO BIG CAN'T FIT
>>319309995
>But what if the content is fully worth full price 7 times?
>>319310119
Fanboys would lose their shit.
It will definitely have new things but won't replace what was already in the game before
Which is why it's a huge challenge.
>>319309937
>"We'd have to remove some contents from the game, and it would be difficult to add more to the game.
What the fuck that makes no sense whatsoever..
how about you leave the stuff people want.. and maybe not shove in shit nobody wants?
what
Well, UE4 confirmed.
Rev up those bugs and fps drops.
What is the point in doing it episodes?
People know what happens.
There is no good reason to do episodic. NONE.
It's not gonna build up or anything at all, anyone who cares about FF knows what happens in FF7.
>>319306107
>Episode 1 exclusive release on PS4
>Full release on other platforms simultaneously released with Episode 2(+) for PS4
>>319310740
>What is the point in doing it episodes?
$ $ $ $ $
>>319306913
Then they'd have to rush it and cut content, which leads to more whining. Bravo.
i'm honestly not sure what you expected. considering how hard the modern industry is nickel and dimed, there was no fucking way they were going to make a game that big and up to modern standards as one $60 package. you should have been skeptical from the second it was announced considering the state square was in at the time.
>>319310870
Like I said in that post. No good reason.
>>319307615
why is this so hard
look how tiny it is
what is the fucking problem
>>319310740
>What is the point in doing it episodes?
Cashing!
It has become the modern version of Pokemon's Dual Releases.
>>319308465
>The vast majority of that map is greenry
sounds like the entirety of FF7's world map
>>319311046
How is filling up your pockets with nostalgia money not a good thing?
Maybe not for you, non-SE employee.
>>319310740
>What is the point in doing it episodes?
Season Pass, we'll take your money and promise you a good remake.
We totally won't just focus on Midgay ,even though it's all we went on about.
>>319311140
PSX games were $50 dude, with the dollar worth more back then actually.
>>319311140
That's probably still way more expensive but at least adjust for inflation. You spent several times as much time making that graphic than it would have taken to find an inflation calculator on google.
>>319310918
I'm saying they should rush it but why show it to us if the game is nowhere near completion?
>>319311140
Increased graphical fidelity and details.
Before you could call a 12 polygon box "a house", it takes 1 clic and that was it.
Now you have to model the door, the windows, all the interior with a lot of furniture, texture and shade them, apply physic,make sure it work for all TOD, and even after all this work you can't afford to entirely copy paste it to make a city.
Apply the same logic to literally all the elements of the game.
That's the fucking problem.
You can cheat if your camera is fixed and don't make the house explorable. But that's not what peoples want from a remake.
>>319306107
But each episode will have the same amount of content as a complete full game.
Also I'm guessing the battles will be like:
Attack whenever you want
But ATB is for Magic and Summons and items possibly?
>>319311718
How is that a problem with the XV team made a map 10x bigger in just 4 years?
You don't need episodes to do something this simple.
>>319306107
>Episodic release....
Is that even the correct term in this case?
Nomura and Kitase are literally talking about Multi-release Games, as in fully priced games, not episodes like something you would see in Telltale Games.
>>319311718
>That's the fucking problem.
>they actually have to put work into it
>that's the fucking problem
literally what the fuck kinda blind defense is this
>>319311814
>But each episode will have the same amount of content as a complete full game.
Source?
>>319311918
Nmoura literally used the word episode in the interview.
>>319311825
Because we don't know what content the map actually contain. Temper your expectations because you're going to be disappointed if you're expecting 4 times GTA5
>>319306107
>episodic release
trashed
Who started this episodic autism anyway? I know Half Life 2: Episode one, but it seems like ever since TellTales Walking Pleb took off various games have been doing it as well. Just either release the whole fucking game or fuck off. No one wants to pay $15-20 for a 1-2 hour game.
Why do people think it will be episodes like Telltale crap?
Each episode will have the same amount of time and content and shit as a complete full game. What's the problem?
Instead of one release which we will forget about. We are getting continuous content.
>>319311940
They're fine with it, it'll just take several years and the game will have 3 games worth of content that they have to price accordingly.
If you can wait, then wait for the GOTY edition.
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/07/the-final-fantasy-vii-remake-runs-on-the-unreal-engine/
There is no excuse for episodic shit, I thought it was their hard to work engine but it's just UDK.
>>319312161
>Each episode will have the same amount of time and content and shit as a complete full game
Source?
>>319312161
Because they're retarded and probably played and were rightfully disappointed by Tellshit games, but still buy them anyway.
>>319312368
That's awfully vague.
An episodic chapter in The Walking Dead is considered a full game.
>>319312080
>>319312248
oh bullshit
this game is fucknig running on ue4 which is easier to tinker with than XV's luminous engine
stop making excuses for these lazy cunts
>>319312490
>An episodic chapter in The Walking Dead is considered a full game.
I forgot to add nowadays at the end of that sentence.
>>319312602
>Implying that change anything to the amount of work required
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>319312368
>full sized game
Not full sized FF7.
Gone Home was considered a full sized game.
I'm not saying this is ideal but would anyone else feel a bit better if you paid $60 for the first part and that covered the remaining parts as they are released?
I know that isn't how it's going to happen but would be better than purchasing each one.
>>319312828
Neither do you. If the XV team could make their huge map in 4 years why can't this bigger team pull it off in 3?
Let's hear those excuses.
>>319312887
This is SE's 20 year old milking cow. There's no way they planned for this to happen from the start. There's no way they're not charging full price for each "episode.".
>>319312490
>An episodic chapter in The Walking Dead is considered a full game.
Eh, what, by who?
I have never seen any professional, or any nobody actually, say "Whoa, these 1h40min felt like a full game experience, only Telltale can do it!".
>>319313065
It is probably because they want to do this that they are promising each episode will be as fulfilling as a full game.
>>319313253
By a lot of people.
With today's standards a fucking 8 hour game is considered a full length game.
Game was shit in the first place, I'm loving ever laugh over here.
>>319306107
>picking apart screenshots to pre-alpha teaser
>shitposting about episodic content
Thanks /v/ I can go back to work now I'm not missing anything of value here
>>319312602
they still have to upscale literally everything from the original
>>319312973
We'll see if they do.
But you're going to be disappointed.
>>319313310
Keep fooling yourself.
This was their plan from the start.
Milking FF7 wasn't enough, they needed to milk the remake too.
I wonder what else they can milk...
Guys hear ,e out for a second
What if by episodic they mean everything that was a part of FF7? Crisis Core, that cellphone game with the turks, FF7 itself, dirge of cerberus, maybe even advent children?
>>319313813
I wish I wasn't jaded and distrusted every big publisher.
>>319312368
>Each entry will have its own unique story
into the trash it goes
>>319306107
Damn, Cloud. Might want to get your leg checked out.
who is his fucking right mind though that current square enix could make good a FF7 remake?
>>319313431
Telltale games are 2 hours max. Nobody in their fucking minds consider those full games.
>>319306107
>....
>ugh
Doesn't feel like ironic shitposting anymore
>>319316106
smdh
>>319311589
Because the episode is most likely near completion? They want to get it out earlier than waiting two years more or something.
>>319307615
>Gee can't wait to play vast open nothing with no intricate, well crafted level design.
When will the open world meme end?
>Episode 1 comes out
>there is easily 80+ hours of content and new scenarios leadung up to leaving Midgar
BASED SQUARE
>>319319019
Whew lad, do you know how optimistic you were being there? We can't have that in our shitposting negativity thread.
>>319319451
Sorry. You're right. It's going to be a qte filled shitfest with "important" choices that have real impact on how the story plays out.
>>319319678
I'll let you off with a warning but you'd better not let anything like that happen again :^)
FF7 remake won't even have a world map.
It'll be episodic like a TellTale mobile game - this will avoid ever having to use the WorldMap, and it'll just be a re-telling of FF7 in an episodic format, and slicing out all the "fat".
Do you honestly believe they will re-model EVERYTHING? No chance...
Episodic is good for Square for two reasons -
>easier to make
>more money
>>319310581
>literally putting the c|_|ck in c|_|cksole
At least you got RDR!
i'd rather wait ten years to play the game by my own leisure than to come to a loading screen for the last cutscene on the episode that shows Cloud and friends exit midgar only for it to cut out to a black screen that says
"to be continued in Episode 2"
I didn't ask for this and now I won't give any of my money until I see a completely and properly done remake.
>>319306107
its only episodic for people who are far and beyond too stupid to wait for the complete version.
>>319308616
Considering everything on the psx had to be in 3d even sprites had to be on a plane you're wrong. Psx couldnt run 2d sprites
See, the thing with episodic release is that they can listen to feedback.
Then again this is Square Enix.
>>319307615
EMPTY
>>319307227
>remake FF7 in the highest possible quality with today's videogame standards, without any cuts and a lot of new shit, and release it within this decade
It will still take the same amount of time to finish, only you have to buy it in pieces.
Unless you wait even LONGER for the complete edition or equivalent.
>>319306107
>2065 HP
How late into the game this screen is from? Or they rigged it purposefully for gameplay footage?
>>319307615
Are we simply ignoring that the world of GTA V can be explored both underwater and in air?
That kind of sounded like something a shill would say, so I'll just negate that by saying GTO a shit
How big will the budget to do the entire game be?
The only reason I imagine going episodic that makes any sense is because the project is so huge that you need to make more money during production by selling it in pieces.
But there's no way this one project is big enough to justify that. Is it?
>>319310581
Fuck off redditor, no one likes your way of making screencap.
>>319306827
desu baka senpai kek
Episodic means no true open world. You niggas understand this right?
>>319307615
Too bad XV will be full of invisible walls and nothing in the bits that you can explore
>>319307615
>He still thinks FF7 Remake is going to have an overworld
Really depends on gametime/price per episode.
If each episode is as big as a regular rpg, it's fine.
If all episodes combined cost as much as an usual rpg, it's fine.
>>319324225
>If each episode is as big as a regular rpg, it's fine.
Unlikely, but possible
>If all episodes combined cost as much as an usual rpg, it's fine.
No way in Hell
>>319309606
>mfw people are eating this shit up
but they're not
>>319323901
This.
>>319318809
>wanting hallways
Milennials were a mistake.
>>319324225
>putting a damper on everyone's excitement, taking away the joy of those days/weeks where you cut into your sleeping time just to be able to marathon the game from start to finish and you can't think about anything else during work/university, making them wait years for the next episode
>it's fine
Vote on the battle system:
http://strawpoll.me/6195487
expanded ATB is in the lead
>ugh
UGH...
ughhh... ughh they just.. ruined it.. ruined.. ughhhhh ugh
UGHHHH
ugh
>>319306470
>sigh
meh
>>319324794
>anything but a big open field full of the absence of level design is a hallway
Die and never come back.
>>319312359
sauce on the zebra
>>319326997
>meh
Ew
>>319327915
Probably machino henmaru, but I don't know what image you're referring to
>>319328441
>Ew
Wah
Niggers this game was ruined when it was released.
Did any of you HONESTLY expect them to do a good job? after the insane shit-show that was FF13 + Lightning Returns? I sure as hell wasn't.
>>319329006
>implying you could do anything close let alone even have a job
Fuck off faggot.
Cyber Connect 2 is on the project, it'll probably be handled similarly to how they did .hack.
>>319328682
Left portion of the hair
>>319306107
>open world rpg
>episodic
I mean, I know that you kind of go from place to place, but after the Shinra bike business the game opens up and I just don't see it working in an episodic format. Had kind of hoped that Hitman would be their "testing game" for this model, but it appears they're just going right ahead with the episodic format, which is a bummer to say the least.
>>319328770
>Wah
pomf =3
>>319306107
What did they mean by this?
>>319331880
Open world back then doesn't really translate to open world now. FF VII's story/location progresssion was extremely linear, with only a handful of secrets being strewn across the world map, the biggest being Wutai which was entirely optional.
I don't really see any qualms with removing the overworld from the equation and just giivng a world map to select episodes from.
![trails-in-the-sky-banner[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bdNCHS1.jpg "trails-in-the-sky-banner[1].jpg")
Reminder that this, .hack, Persona 2 and Xenosaga are considered "multi part" games in Japan.
Would would anyone just assume it'd be western Jewery?
>>319306107
it's final fantasy, it comes pre-ruined already :D
>>319332093
>pomf =3
Gross!
>>319319019
>Episode 1 come out
>It's just Midgar
>6 hours full price
FF VII original had an average game length of 60 hours. And that was a game with static 2D backgrounds and shitty 3D models.
It also had a shitload of dialogue, which now has to be voiced.
If they're going to do justice to it with modern day production standards it simply doesn't fit into one standalone game.
What non-open world single player games in the last 5 years would even come close to the dream scenario for a remake some people here are wishing for? Standards have changed.
MOST OF THE TOWNS WERE LIKE TWO FUCKING SCREENS.
MIDGAR IS ONLY SLIGHTLY BIGGER.
DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD TO MAKE THESE PLACES FEEL EVEN REMOTELY AS BIG AS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
>>319333078
This. They really remake fucking everything. And what I've seen so far I really like. They're effectively turning all those 2D backgrounds from back then faithfully into 3D areas.
Can't wait for pic related.
>>319333078
They already said there will be entirely new areas in Midgar.
>>319333078
>>319333490
>Implying there will even be real town areas.
This is an on-rails game, like FF13.
>>319333653
Nice complete speculation, fagtron.
It's almost like all we've seen is an area that was already super linear in the original game, and you're for some reason trying to make it seem like that's the whole game- something a retard would do. Weird.
>>319307227
>planing a remake of FF7 LITERALLY THE WORST TIME EVER POSIBLE FOR VIDEOGAMES
Why dont just wait for the next gen, the true savior of videgames epoch?
>>319333830
>100% of footage is linear corridors
>Mechanics built around corridors
>Behind the head camera angle
>Game being developed as progressive chapters
>Being designed by Nomura
It's a rails game. Sorry to break it to you.
>>319334393
>100% of footage is linear corridors
from the opening of the game, which was 100% linear corridors
>Mechanics built around corridors
holy shit its almost like they want you to get into dungeons from the overworld without having to see a loading screen, dumbass
>Behind the head camera angle
you mean like the FFX overworld
>Game being developed as progressive chapters
already confirmed to have the content of a full big game each
>being designed by nomura
you mean like FFXV, which is open world
Y O U A R E W R O N G
>>319306470
>>319326997
>>319328441
>>319328770
>>319332093
>>319332492
EBIN AHHAHAHAHAAHAH XD :D :P
>>319313813
I would mind if they throw the game like a series of ExpPacks
>FF7
>FF7: Hearth of the Planet
>FF7: Lelgacy of the Boys
Instead they are making a mix of THE FUCKING >WORST genres in vidya
Visual novels and Hackn'Slash under a intangible """RPG""" charade
>>319334713
>FFX
>overworld
