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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS LITTLE SHITS PROBLEM?
SHE WANTS AN ITEM AND SHE ALWAYS FUCKING SAYS "NO THATS TOO MUCH FUCK YOU"
I TRIED TO SELL IT TO YOU FOR 31% BASE PRICE AND IT'S STILL TOO MUCH FUCK YOU
>trying to sell at 31%
Enjoy foreclosure and bankruptcy.
>>319215882
That's too much...
>He didn't build up their wallet.
Git gud
>>319215882
>first 150
>second 115-120
got fuck yourself little bart
>getting fucked by the twintail jew
Percentage doesn't mean shit if she just doesn't have the money.
Nice combo kid, it'd be a shame if someone tried to flog outrageously expensive junk to you.
>>319215882
wtf were you doing, selling her an odd vase?GIT GUD
>>319215882
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjVvYpQNQz6myDGBOtlpw7NtUyZJ9z5pWQcFlQw_GBM
>>319216471
She only came in once, and I took the combo hit. I'm not putting up with that shit in my store.
>keeping a spreadsheet of characters so I can track their near pins over time
What has become of me.
The go-to strategy used to be 102/98 for bonuses.
Combo is everything in Recettear. The game became 10000x easier once I figured this out.
It's well worth selling things at low-ish prices, or even at a small loss, if it maintains your combo. As long as you aren't selling things at a loss constantly, you'll come out ahead of where you would have been if you focus on maintaining the combo above all else.
>>319216471
Except for you. Fuck you.
>>319216471
If you never go to the town square or where ever it is you encounter her, she will not show up as a customer.
>>319216802
With some people (the old man and the woman) you can go up as high as like 111% and as low as like 87%.
>>319216802
>98
Nigga that ain't even "near pin" territory, what the ever loving fuck are you doing?
>>319215882
She buys items at 100% of the sale price, which still lets you make a profit.
>>319216765
Feel the jew
Be the jew
>>319217303
Actually her pin bonus is at104%
>>319216906
Does it stop you from meeting any new adventurers though?
>>319218041
>implying you need any adventurers other than Louie
SPIN TO WIN
>>319216471
>great combo going
>she enters the store
>>319218286
I mean you can play the game without getting your hands dirty with peasant dungeon-sweeping work at all, presumably, but missing out on characters just to avoid the combo breaker kind of sucks.
>>319218041
You need to meet Tielle and Elan in the towns square at some point to recruit them. Griff too, but he's only there at night, and Euria might not be there then.
Euria's encounter only happens after you have a certain amount of money, so you could potentially recruit Tielle and Elan before she becomes a problem.
>>319216765
It means you ascended to the greater level of merchantry my fellow nose.
Give in to the desire, stack the combos, wield the power.
>>319216471
>>319216660
>near pin
>355%
>no haggle min
>200%
>>319215882
She sees through you jew lies, merchant.
I've played up to the 3rd month, and the old people are the worst to me. Yet I've seen my friend play and he can sell to old people up to like a 50% markup. Are the comfort values randomized for each file?
Would you?
>>319216471
>Not having enough money to buy her shit and keep your combo
What are you, bad at Recettear?
>>319220279
In a fucking heartbeat.
>>319215882
Is Recettear worth getting if you aren't Jewish?
>>319220071
Something to do with customers being willing to pay more over time if you consistently get their ideal price, I think.
>>319220279
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>>319220279
>tfw a cute burk will never molest you after a long night of drinking at the pub
SELL AT 104% BUY AT 70% YOU FUCKING IDIOT IT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LOSE
Capitalism ho!
>>319220429
>putting up with that shit
Not in my fucking shop.
>>319220905
I personally prefer 105% and51%
Gets most peoples pin bonuses / reputation bonuses when selling while still making good profit
oh wow.
>>319220829
She's into lolis anyway, apparently.
>>319221123
She sells some rare ass shit sometimes, so can be great to have around if you're trying to fill out the item list.
>>319220071
Each character has their own maximum budget. This budget can be leveled up to the next tier by making successful sales. Getting near-pins and Just bonuses will level it up faster.
>>319216905
>Combo is everything in Recettear.
This guy gets it.
>>319215882
Don't offer her expensive items dumbass.
Don't tell me she picked it up and couldn't afford the price it doesn't work that way.
>>319220582
If you can get itcheapI don't see why not, fraynd.
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I want to replay that, but I haven't even ulocked all the shit in my previous playthrough yet.
That dungeon is way too fucking long.
What ever happened to the dev that made this game and fortune summoners, I haven't seen any new game of theirs since.
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Is this any good? I think it's like the sequel or something.
>>319221205
>>319222102
My grandmother loved using this but... oh well...
>Candy
>>319221523
This.
Customer budget is a non-issue if they choose an item themselves.
That said, unless the item is red or you've already maxed everyone's budget already, there's no reason to not be setting it to 107% for everyone except slave fairy (100-101% for her cheap skank ass)
>>319222253
I thought it was awful, but I was also expecting it to still have the item shop stuff going on.
>>319219020
The first playthrough I did, I completely undervalued the use of dungeons.
Beat the game without going to a dungeon once, other than the first time it makes you.
They aren't necessary, but my second playthrough was a cake walk when I did dungeoneering.
>>319221997
Google says they translated this earlier this year.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/320090
No idea what it is.
>>319222253
It's not very good.
Keep a supply of cheap items to give away to the brats who you're not going to turn a profit on. It's about keeping a combo going.
>>319222346
Fuck that fairy, people go on about the little girl but that fucking fairy haggles just because she can.
>>319215882
She's just poor, dude
>>319222253
Prequel, and not connected and hardly alike at all.
Also, the store jews you harder than you could ever hope to jew customers in Recettear.
So who is best adventurer mechanically? I love punching everything.
>>319222447
Dungeoneering is hit or miss with miss happening a million times more often than hit. Wasting half a day and not getting anything worthwhile from the dungeon is a huge pain in the ass and just having your shop open would have made you a bigger income.
>jewing kids out of candy
What have i become
>>319222767
Every shekel counts, khaver.
>>319221997
They're different devs.
If you're talking about Carpe Fulgur, they got contracted to do localization work for Trains SC, and one of them had a fucking mental breakdown. I couldn't tell you if he's making excuses, or if doing translation work for a game with more words than War & Peace broke him. Both seem equally plausible.
>>319223091
*Trails SC.
The L and N are totally next to each other on the keyboard, I swear.
>>319215882
If she's asking for a specific item then that means she can afford it
If you're picking out an item for her (ie "I want a hat!") then she's not going to able to afford very much. Really her biggest purpose is to keep combos going, you're not going to get much money from her so don't even try.
Part of running a succesful business is knowing your clientele and meeting their needs
>>319222627
>Have a combo going
>Fairy comes in
>She haggles
>Pissed off, I raised the price
>She accepts it
>>319215882
Christ, nigga, sounds like you seriously need togitgud
>>319223324
>Near pin
>>319222767
>tfw selling my stockpiles of food during a shortage
How exactly does shop theme work and how do you exploit it?
>trying to dodge shit with charme
>she ends up suck in walls
The same happens with Nagi, also, is it normal for the game to slow the fuck down when you use thousand stabs?
>>319216471
Now this bitch, this bitch right here is a bitch until you're making the big bucks.
I seem to recall you don't exactly earn anything for placating her, though, which is disappointing.
>>319223551
Different NPC types come into the store with more frequency. You can get mostly rid of little girls and keep rich old dudes.
>>319222710
Charme is best if you can git gud. She's fast, can parry everything, and can dish out crazy amounts of damage.
Tielle and Cailou are nice if you wanna play casual and wreck everything from a distance.
Everyone else is just presonal preference.
>>319223551
People are attracted to different themes, you can keep away assholes you don't want and bring in only those you want with it.
>>319223551
>ctrl+f
>docs.google.com
>follow link anon posted
>read about what themes what customer likes
I don't know what you guys have been doing but back when I started I usually just jew them at 105%
but later when I finished the debts I just jew them at around 115%
the guild guy and the husband and most adventurers usually accept 118-120 and 45-39 when selling. When prices increase I sell as high as 287 for the old man, guild guy and husband but just 270 for the adventurers.
the mom, fairy and the loli at 115-111 and 55-45 when selling. around 250 for the mom and 220 for the fairy and the loli when prices are high.
Euria at 200
rich bitch at 130 and 25 when selling. 300 when prices are high.
>>319222710
I just got bored with the endless dungeons so I just used Griff to dash through every monster until I find the portal
>>319223673
Well the lowest she goes is 151%, so you can technically earn something if you buy then and sell when it's rare. No haggle minimum is 200%, so you could still earn something.
But her near pin is 355% which is higher than what Alouette buys red items for so it's impossible to make your money back, let alone earn something.
>>319222447
?
If anything, staying in your shop is way better for going full-jew on the populace. The pot you get as a reward for the second dungeon is great for the early game but one you can unload a fucking vending machine on some poor unsuspecting asshole who requested something metal, you just laugh all the way to the bank.
>>319222627
Fairy comes in pretty late so most don't have anything to say about her.
She was the bane of my store when I played this game for like a hundred hours, though. Nothing, fucking NOTHING satisfied her. GET OUTarousing design, though
>>319222710
Charme.
Charme >>>>> *
Go fast, paralyze enemies (FUCKING INVALUABLE), great damage. Used her the whole way through and never looked back.
So how do you know when your customer leveled up? Is it that heart bubble that appears sometimes?
>>319222710
If you're good with Charme's parry, she wins everything.
Tielle is hands-down the best for offensive output.
That said, I'm a Nagifag. She's weird with the equipment options, but has all the essential skills. I guess I just appreciate good damage output + dashing/ramming.
>>319224907
Yes.
>>319224710
>Fairy comes in pretty late
She shows up on the second fuckin week with richbitch
>>319224847
And she's best waifu
>>319226003
I don't remember her giving me much trouble until the third week, though in any case the experience most people come to immediately have an issue with his the loli.
>>319220279
Never fuck drunks or royalty.
>>319215882
She's a kid how much money do you think she has?
>>319226339
GEE, I WONDER WHO'S BEHIND THIS POST
>>319226339
>he didn't grew up with his rich parents giving him 100k and told him to do whatever he likes to with it
>>319226741
>>319226339
>>319226339
ANTI-SEMITE
>>319226339
>late game that girl comes into the shop buying 75,000 pix swords
>>319224253
>Man asks for two metal objects in 2 days.
>Price hike on metal objects occurs
WELP.
Was she gay for Recette?
REINSTALLING
>>319229663
No, you are thinking of Charme.
>>319229663
No, she just stalked her and wen't full-blown tsundere becau-OF COURSE SHE'S GAY FOR RECETTE.
>running a shop at all
It's like you hate fun.
>>319215882
GODDAMMIT I'VE HAD THIS SCREENCAP SO FUCKING LONG AND I'VE NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO USE IT BECAUSE THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY RECETTEAR THREADS IN FUCKING AGES AND FUCKING SHIT DON'T YOU KNOW AS SOON AS ONE FUCKING POPS UP I CAN'T FIND THE GODDAMN THING AND I JUST RENAMED IT FOR A FILENAME THREAD WHICH WAS STUPID BECAUSE NO ONE LIKED IT AND ALL IT HAS DONE IS MADE IT HARDER TO FIND FUCK THIS FUCKING GAY ASS FUCKING EARTH FUCK
This is probably the only indie game I have legitimately enjoyed
>>319230770
Speaking of which, what happened to the Devs? Not carpe, who did the translations. The actual game makers.
I just jack up the price to make the little shit leave.
>>319232657
Never mind, a simple google search reveals the answer. Okkotos and Territoire were released in 2013 and 2015 respectively.
I'm bad at this game.
>>319215882
This is the worst part of the game. It doesn't tell you this shit anywhere and it would be almost impossible to figure it out without a guide, not only that but it heavily discourages haggling which had potential to be one of the deepest mechanics in the game.
>>319235351
Just because everyone here likes to joke about attempting to jew every customer out of every penny they can doesn't mean that is how the game works.
I think there's somewhere early on the game tells you to give customers prices they would find acceptable. A little girl trying to spend her allowance is going to be frugal, its no wonder she doesn't appreciate you giving her insane markups on everything.
>>319215882
>>319230563
Wow. I swear I had already checked that folder. It isn't even that funny.
>>319215882
>Girl enters the shop
>Asks for a hat
>Doesn't want to pay 800px for a hat
>haggle down a little
>nope
GOD DAMN IT
>>319236048
That doesn't change the fact that haggling is really fun until you realize that not haggling with customers magically gives them more money later in the game for no discernible reason. It was something fun but they make doing it ruin the game.
Not to mention that the messages for "I don't think this item is worth that much money to me" are almost exactly the sames as "I don't carry that much spending money," customer levels aren't explained anywhere, you only find out about them at all through dumb luck, and the idea of connecting 30% markdown not getting a sale with invisible customer budgets and those invisible customer budgets with another invisible customer level is ridiculous. And missing even one connection in that chain means you will continue playing the game wrong and then get butt fucked later on because you need to sell bigger items and none of your customers can afford them.
>>319236048
Tear also tells you that 130% is a suitable entry point and encourages haggling with the customers.
It's a shitty tutorial that screws people over rather than help them.
>>319237334
130% works with half the customers doesn't it?
how do i becoe jewish enough to be good at this.
So what exactly is this Near pin and just bonus?
>>319237867
You hit that sweet spot of giving the customer a good deal without under or overselling it.
>>319237605
Yes, but haggling with customers will ruin the combo and will make raising the merchant level harder. The merchant level also happens to be one of the key factors to beating the game.
Not only that, but putting the price too high means that you'll have a harder time getting near-pin bonuses to help raise the budget of your customers as well as getting more merchant xp.
>>319237867
If you give customers the price they have in their mind the first time without haggling you get a bonus and it gives that class of customer "exp"
Do this enough and customers will level up and start carrying more money when they come to your store, so you can sell them bigger things. Players often try to jew everyone over, which ends up with a bunch of little girls that cant afford anything and OP's frustration.
The bonus comes from getting items sold consecutively without having to haggle, and gives you more merhcant exp.
>>319237851
It's anti-Jewish propaganda
If you try to haggle for the best prices, you'll lose around the second week
If you try to get people reasonable prices that they'll accept without haggling, you get bonus reputation and experience
>>319237116
>>319237334
Tear's actual dialogue from the tutorial:
>As might be obvious, if a customer is satisfied with your offer, it is a sale and you get a little bit of experience along with the money.
>If your price is too high however, a customer can simply walk out.
>Learning to determine the proper price - there lies the challenge!
>Now, if a customer disagrees with a price, but not so much that they want to storm out, then you can negotiate.
>Remember what I said about comfort earlier? That is the key here.
>Offer a price, but do not make it so outrageous that the customer feels you are not acting in good faith.
>So if they disagree but stay, offer a new price.
>Ideally you will lower your offer a little, and they will take it and give you a sale
>Some customers may just be trying to sniff out a better price when they are really willing to pay your initial price, however.
>Whether or not your risk testing that possibility is up to you.
>How long you can keep haggling... well, that depends on how regular the customer the person in question is.
>As we are starting out, you will not be able to haggle for very long, but after customers begin to trust us a little, you can haggle for a longer period of time.
>Alright then. Now for the fine art of haggling. Theoretically, what you wish to do is lower your price slowly, but as I mentioned, there is a limit to how long you can haggle.
>The idea is to deduce a customer's desired price and go from there.
>A large number of stores sell at about 30% over the base price.
>It is not a hard and fast rule, but people will usually accept that price level. ...Usually.
>if you can manage to go over that, you will make a lot of money, but you do not want to risk driving away a customer!
She never says 130% is a good starting price, just that some customers may accept that final price (after haggling)
The emphasis is made on learning the right price to sell at, and getting it right the first time.
>>319241312
>The idea is to deduce a customer's desired price and go from there.
>A large number of stores sell at about 30% over the base price.
>It is not a hard and fast rule, but people will usually accept that price level. ...Usually.
I'd say she is suggesting 130% as a good starting price just by this.
>The emphasis is made on learning the right price to sell at, and getting it right the first time.
That's not what I'm getting from that conversation. The emphasis is to haggle in order to sell as high as possible, without overdoing it to the point where the customer walks out.
Nothing seems to indicate that you should try to sell things on the very first go without haggling.
>>319238462
>Do this enough and customers will level up and start carrying more money when they come to your store, so you can sell them bigger things.
That seems kind of convoluted but I'll keep it in mind
>>319242458
it is super weird because even the little girl can afford almost anything in the game if you only level her twice, but almost all customers become worthless after a while unless you level them at least once. It's possible to beat the game without knowing about that mechanic, but you need to make your shop look super fancy to attract only customers with high base budgets.
Decided to start up a new game
I love this game
>>319242396
She flat out says you need to find a customer's desired price. I concede its not a very good tutorial, but the claim that the game never explains how its supposed to work is just false. Nor does the game tell you to jew everyone from every last pix you can.
Its more "Guess 130% the first time and try what you actually settled on the next time you see them them" than it is "Always start negotiating at 130%"
>>319243231
The game doesn't even do a good job of indicating that the little girl is even the same little girl, you regularly see 2-3 instances of the same customer in the shop (unless they're story characters)
It's much more reasonable to think that means finding the right price for each sale through haggling.
>>319243231
>She flat out says you need to find a customer's desired price.
That entire dialogue is focused around haggling though. She does encourage trying out some different prices, but a customer's "desired price" could very easily be interpreted by a new player as "the highest price a customer is willing to pay".
>>319243117
Louie is the best in my opinion.
I don´t know if it´s because i overpowered him, but any Dungeon is a breeze with him ( Charme is fast, but she dies too much for my taste).
Selling Dungeon stuff, from the best dungeons is key to get so rich you don´t even give a damn about the payments.
