are games getting too big file size wise
>>318764952
Yes. End of discussion. No reason not to compress those precious audio files when there's a negligible difference in those 50 gigs.
>>318764952
Excessively
>>318764952
No. They are too small. The is literary zero reasons why any new release should be smaller than 50GB now when HDD space costs less than 5 cents per GB.
![525[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w6TsO8O.jpg "525[1].jpg")
>>318764952
he's putting that floppy in the wrong way
>>318764952
No you fucking gibbermack we, harddrives are getting cheaper gb/$ and bigger.
To keep filesize down on 1080p+ systems they would have to reuse textures and making them low res/more compressed.
What you really are asking for is to make the games look and feel worse because you autist over harddrive space when its cheaper then ever before.
fuekn end yourself
>>318764952
No, they are not getting too big. They are too big.
>>318768394
That's pretty cool that someone made a real life version of the save icon.
You can only fit ten 100GB games on a 1TB HDD. You can only fit four 500GB games on a 2TB HDD. You can only fit two 2TB games on a 4TB HDD. And there will not be any space left for ANYTHING ELSE.
Yeah no the inflation is real.
>>318764952
The file size itself isn't the problem, the problem is developers have no sense for optimization. They'll make a bloated, poorly coded game on top of a third party's engine and think everything's fine as long as it fits on a blu-ray disc and successfully turns on. And then they'll patch it on day 1.
>>318768394
This has been driving me nuts.
Why can't games use file conpression like skyrim?
I mean my mods + dlc make the game 70gb total, but still the vanilla game is like only 4gb?
>>318764952
When some game patches can take over a week on DSL to download, yes. Devs are letting it all hang out, fuck any compression and optimization, and it's getting really bad
>>318768919
>living in a 3rd world country
>>318768394
I opened this topic because that was pissing me off
>>318768848
Because console limitations at the time (Xbox 360) using DVD meant the game had to be under 8 GB. Now that both current consoles use Blu-Ray, devs don't give a fuck about compression.
>>318769079
>implying they gave a shit because of xbox
Aren't there games that have 7 discs or something?
>>318768802
This, there is no reason for games to be 50GBs when they can easy be 1/5 of that if the developers weren't lazy fucks.
>>318769161
8.55 million sales
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/49112/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/
Compared to
3.80 million sales
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/49111/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/
Yeah Bethesda doesn't care about consoles at all :^)
>>318769161
Yeah, it's on PC.
>>318768802
>devs are lazy
you are an idiot.
>>318769357
>Implying digital numbers are ever released for sale information
Who the fuck buys physical copies of games anymore?
>>318769582
>>318764952
I don't have too much of a technical problem with it. Yeah, it's annoying for them to take up so much hard drive space and they're a pain to patch, but I can live with that.
Here's the real problem. All of that space is probably being filled up with crap that doesn't meaningfully contribute to the core experience. It's just a bunch of "high quality" audio and texture files that look awful in-game because designers no longer understand how to use audio and visual art properly. Most of the disk space is used to house hi-res trash, not memorable experiences.
The real problem is creative, not technical.
>>318769446
Sony really shot themselves in the foot with blue ray on pc. Fuck you and your encryption if I bought the movie I would like to watch it on the program I choose.
>>318768968
I actually live in the US, just in a shitty part of the US. But yeah, there are a lot more places that you'd think like this that don't have access to high speed internet.
>>318769357
>only counts retail
>on PC
>>>>>>vgchartz
>when there's plenty of websites tracking Steam ownership
And that has nothing to do with my multiple disc point on the 360. The point of this thread was file size. Not a PC vs Console le leeddit circlejerk
>>318769357
Console 8 million
PC 3 million
Console Europe 2 million
PC Europe 2 million
America = console kiddies
Europe = PC mustard rice
>>318769692
It doesn't count digital dickface. We're 2015 in case you didn't notice.
>>318769692
It makes sense that Eurokeks and PKeks are the same user base.
Will we ever run out of buttons to press?
Like, one day games are going to require a shitload of buttons to play and we'll not have enough fingers
>>318769614
Clearly the one moving goalposts is you.
>ONLY PHYSICAL COPIES MATTER BECAUSE IT AIDS MY ARGUMENT
At least put some effort into the shitposting.
>>318769079
Not just consoles, it also 4gb on PC
>>318769763
You have the face of a dick
>>318769856
>no u
epic
simply epic
>>318769673
Yeah, like I said
>living in a 3rd world country
>>318769446
I got this since a trip to GameStop takes less time than trying to download all of that data with a 5mbs internet connection
>>318768802
The actual code and performance optimization has nothing to do with file size.
>>318768045
>>318768405
>People actually think this dumb shit
Yeah boy, I sure would love taking hours to download a game even on fiber optic in the next 3-4 years.
>>318770053
>euro pretending his country isn't also 3rd world
>>318770053
The US is shit, but it ain't 3rd worldyet
>>318769446
So much for master race, KEK
>>318764952
>are games getting too big file size wise
That's the sound of progress. If we were restricted to the size of what they used back then... technology would never be as far as we are now.
As files size grows, the need for bigger storage medium also grows. Thus humans come up with larger storage like Blu Ray. And humans also come up with faster reading speedanyone who thinks 52x cd reading speed is faster than 1x blu ray is a dumb nigger who should be shot.
It goes hand in hand.
>>318765175
> No reason not to compress those precious audio files when there's a negligible difference in those 50 gigs.
You're a dumb nigga. I bet you didn't even know every single video game since the snes days all the way till ps2 days were all compressed. Hench the long ass loading times. It takes time to uncompressed everything, not to mention even graphics were compressed, hence the shitty looking graphics.
>>318770275
>being reminded on a daily basis by Amerikeks that Dial Up and DSL were, excuse, are still a thing
>>318770010
the face of autism
>>318769671
>Sony really shot themselves in the foot with blue ray on pc.
>>318764952
Titanfall, a game with no single player campaign and a bunch of samey-looking maps and weapons, took up 40GB on my PC's HDD. It fit onto a single 9GB DVD on Xbox 360. 'nuff said.
>>318770498
the face of autism
>>318764952
I just bought Wolfenstein: The New Order and was kind of off put when I found out it was 40 GB.
Yes. I was going to buy Wolfenstein TNO this past steam sale and then it dawned me it was a 50GB game and it would absolutelty murder my data cap for a single player game I'd play for 10 hours. I don't think you can justify a 50gb game in this case.
>>318770890
>>318771197
Blame megatextures, the newest iD invention no one asked for.
>>318770275
Bitch, just a few years ago I had to let my PC be on for an entire night just to download a 5GB game. Today it takes 10 minutes. As long as the DL clients servers are up to it, it will still take less than 2 hours to download a game like GTA V. So why the fuck should I have to be punished with shitty graphics only because you live in some shitty African village?
>>318771803
>So why the fuck should I have to be punished with shitty graphics
Oh god, you're serious.
>>318764952
Yes.
Having to download 50GB is fucking nuts.
>>318771803
>Today it takes 10 minutes.
For me it takes 11 hours.
Acting like everyone has the same speed available is fucking dumb
If the base game is more than 20Gb it gets a black mark in my book.
>>318771803
This. >>318772439
I live in the US and my options for internet service are $60/mo for 15mb/s, $90 for 32mb/s, or $180 for 150mb/s. I've got 15mb/s which translates to roughly 2MB/s downloads which is the best speed I've had in my entire life. America has shit-tier internet, shits in Europe probably get 10x my speed for the same price. Fuck regional monopolies
>>318772439
And acting like technology hasn't evolved since 2007 is also fucking dumb.
Get a new ISP or force them to get with the times.
>>318764952
This has nothing to do with games. Everyone else just hasn't caught up.
>>318772871
I live in Europe and I get 15mb/s over copper wire for 6 bucks a month.
I have to pay line rental too for the wire though, so it works out about 30 bucks.
>>318772871
60mbps for €25. Get fucked, cunts. Get with the times or fuck off.
>>318772950
>Get a new ISP or force them to get with the times.
Both are impossible. The ONLY ISP here forces you to buy internet in a bundle with cable and landline phone, and even then you get shit download speeds. Sure, I can go out there and lobby for them to modernize, but I'll be the only one because most shits here don't even use internet for anything besides porn and email.
>>318771197
>data caps
>>318772439
B-but how DARE I be punished with my fiber optic and love of fancy graphics because you don't have it yet!
>>318772871
Where I live the cheapest is 150Mbps at 55 bucks.It has 4Mbps upload and a 300GB limit, it's ridiculous.
Granted, fiber optic is coming by the end of 2016, but I'm expecting a price spike and still a 300gb limit. Upload goes to an outstanding 15Mbps too.
Yes, but its solely because nobody bothers to optimize and compress their games anymore.
>>318764952
Yes
>>318772871
Its also because the cables and whatnot were laid much earlier in the states when the tech wasnt as advanced as when they did the it much later in eastern europe.
>tfw previous ISP had a 15gb/month cap
Thank god we went with a shit, but capless ISP
A year or two from now we'll start getting 100+ GB games.
by then we'll also have like 50 TB drives.
the only problem will be slow-ass download speeds.
>>318772871I am >>318771803I get 100/10 included in my rentMy rent is €200/month
Seriously, though. If vidya kept increasing in size your ISP's would be forced to lower prices for internet speeds and get fiber optics to more households.
>>318772871
300 mbps for I think €80/month
>>318773368
>If vidya kept increasing in size your ISP's would be forced to lower prices for internet speeds and get fiber optics to more households.
No they fucking wouldn't.
>>318773203
Your internet is literally 15 times faster than mine and I pay $130 a month for it.
Please let me move in with you.
>>318773294
>Live in a first world country
>Get worse infrastructure than third world shithole because the cables were laid earlier
How sad
>>318772950
>changing ISP
>in America
Sure you can pick from these:
Comcast
Comcast
Comcast affiliate
Comcast
Totally not Comcast
Server in a shack
>find nice torrent with good number of seeders
>download at 10 mbps
>tfw downloading games in less than 15 minutes
>>318773012
>>318773104
>>318773368
>>318773445
What country are you guys in? I'm thinking of moving back to my ancestral home of Leipzig once I finish my degrees in the US.
>>318773618
Blame capitalism
>>318773368
Even as HD Internet streaming became mainstream, ISPs haven't done shit in America.
I think the moment I truly realized how fucking ridiculous file sizes have become was when I went to re-download Oblivion and saw it was only like 4 GB, and that was with ALL the DLC included.
>>318773723
You don't live in a rich enough neighborhood
>>318764952
I'd say a little however as games get larger we're going to need faster internet something akin to Google fiber.
>>318773545
>300GB limit
>Service commonly fucks up and has lag spikes
>Sometimes have days of less than half the actual speed
>If one certain phone tower goes out (Which is once every month or two, not only does half the area not have phone, but there is a 95% chance of internet also being fucked until they fix it, which takes from several hours to several days
You really don't, honestly.
>>318773618
Are Frontier and Cableone comcast affiliates? I've never paid attention.
>>318773368
>If vidya kept increasing in size your ISP's would be forced to lower prices for internet speeds and get fiber optics to more households.
I wish. There hasn't been a major technological improvement in US internet infrastructure in decades, and ISPs show absolutely no interest in changing that when they can just force their shitty internet onto you due to no competition and an extremely high bar for entry into the field.
>>318773790
If we were rich we wouldn't be complaining about internet, because we could just buy into the local ISP scam and pay $2000/mo for good internet.
>>318773919
google fiber ishopefullychanging that
>>318774024
>He wants the botnet in charge of his entire Internet service
>>318773694
Spain
We're the laughing stock of Europe but at least we get decent internet.
>>318773694
The land of Volvo and IKEAinb4 >China
>>318773368
>If vidya kept increasing in size your ISP's would be forced to lower prices for internet speeds
Thats as logical as claiming vidya increasing in size will mea apple sellers will lower the price of apples.
>>318768663
Save icons are floppy discs, not minidiscs.
>gotta move from yurop to canada
>hear internet in canada is slow as as fuck
>torrent a fuckton of games, movies, shows and stuff into a 3 tb drive a week before moving
>it would have taken me months to download all that shit with canadian internet
Get your shit together, north america
>>318773368
No, it just means you will be forced to not download vidya. You know your ISP does not consider you entitled to vidya
>>318768045
go back to consoles, you fucking retard
>>318764952
its more like they are getting too lazy to do any compression and optimization
then again, this is mostly applicable to console games and ports.
>>318774482
I want physical media back
Fuck needing ultra fast internet to do anything
>>318774529
>optimization
This is the PC gamer buzzword for the solution to everything wrong with their games. Guess what? As long as you keep buying games on sale for 5-10 bucks they're not going to bother.
Absolutely.
>>318768405
>OH GAWD THESE LOW RES GRAPHIX AFFECTIN MUH GAMEPLAY
are you literally retarded
>>318774578
This
>>318774529
>go back to consoles, you fucking retard
>>318775043
anon, I...
>>318764952
Extremely.
>>318774578
But the Piracy anon, digital stores are the only thing keeping pirates at bay.
>>318774723
>devs spend hours crafting a beautiful landscape that most players will probably spend five seconds looking at
>"nope, better look at that low res moss texture on a rock from a few inches away"
>game is 10GB
>every twice-weekly update is 10GB because it uses the Unreal Engine, which is a complete failure of software design
>>318775307
I'd go back to paying for games if they still came in discs.
Fuck Steam and everything it represents.
>>318773294
Then maybe take time to stop wasting money bombing villages in kebabistan and fucking use that money fucking lay down some new fucking cables so that america can be a first world country
>>318775942
Not like the people actually have any choice in what our govt does.
>>318775572
What about a game that's 46 gigs and every update is now 10 gigs because whatever engine The Witcher 3 uses is a complete failure of software design.
>>318775942
>Jewnited States of America
>ever not wasting ridiculous amounts of money on weapons and pointless wars
They spent literal billions on a fucking next gen jet fighter that's worse at its job than planes from the 70s
Top kek
>>318770714
O-Our optimized system had to have uncompressed audio for more lower-end PCs to be able to play! It totally didn't make it worse!
>>318775942
the problem isn't the government not wanting to spend money on infrastructure, it's restrictive zoning laws preventing private business from laying new cable themselves. companies like comcast bribe politicians to make sure that smaller companies will never get through the red tape required to compete with them.
>>318776401
>change 3 files with a delta of 40KB modified
>roll out that 10GB update!
>>318776547
Isn't that illegal?
>>318776914
Nope welcome to oligopolies the legal monopolies
>>318776914
anon do you really think ANY government in capitalist society is free of corruption?
it's pretty much inherent to the system
>>318776914
Learn 2 Lobby
>>318777074
Shouldn't we have the robots rule us so corruption will be impossible?
>>318774361
They're both floppy disKs, you dingus. The save icon is a 3.5" floppy, though, not a 5.25" one.
>>318777832
Your dick is a 3.5" floppy you faggot
>>318771197
>data cap
Bruh, what year is it
>>318778030
2015 and judging from the fact that he has a data cap I assume he's in either Murrica or Straya
>>318778003
DESTROYED
My 500 gig HDD on Xbone is soon full and I only own 4 games
>>318774220
No that would be sweden and germany bro. Nobody cares about spain.
>>318774623
console ports arent pc games
>>318764952
No, but companies should stop skimping on on board storage.
I was given a promo digital copy of arkham knight on ps4, with the season pass, and that's more than 60 GB.
One game is more than 10% of the storage for that system.
If I uninstall it, and ever want to play it again, I will be downloading shit for hours.
>>318778859
If they aren't then PC has about 6 games
>>318774846
>having uncompressed games that take up 100 gbs is literally a-okay
instant red flag for a retarded consolefag
>>318775448
what are you implying?
graphics do not affect gameplay.
if they did, people would not still be playing Doom
>>318776547
No that's the freedom of the United States of America at work
>>318778872
It's less convenient to have digital games on new consoles than it is to have discs, but even then you get fucked because of massive mandatory installs on disc games.
I buy a game digitally, 30 gb install. I buy a game physically, 30 gb install. This generation is barely getting on and I already have to delete stuff every time I want to do anything. Every time I want to play something I uninstalled I change my mind because I have to either redownload tons of shit or delete one of the few games I play more commonly and I don't want to sit through tons of downloads and installs.
It's crap.
>>318778628
How the fuck
>>318778628
>>318778872
Wait. So your're forced to install the games on the consoles?
>>318779657
Not him, but I only have 3 games on that system and I'm at over 60% of my storage cap.
Huge installs and massive patches.
>>318779726
Yes, almost every disc game still has a mandatory install, and some of them are ridiculous, like 40GB plus.
Arkham knight has a 45 gb install for the base unpatched game with no dlc.
>>318779379
I'm implying that sperglords fail to appreciate what's already there right in front of them when they focus on the dumbest things. You don't need 50 GB of high resolution moss textures to have a good looking game.
>>318779726
This generation, yes. Cuz streaming data from a disc is apparently not fast enough anymore.
>>318779726
I think the only console this gen that doesn't do that is the WiiU
>>318779595
>Buy digital
>Horribly inconvenient due to limited storage and large downloads
>Buy physical
>Have to install the full game anyway
>horribly inconvenient due to limited storage
>Still need the disc in the system to play it despite doing a full install (Obviously this had to be the case to prevent sharing and allowing used games, but it still just fucks you).
They took everything from last gen and made it worse. They needed minimum 1 tb storage.
>>318768405
No, they're not. Prices of hard drives have stagnated.
>>318780460
Thankfully, I couldn't install one of these games on there with the pittance they offered for onboard storage.
>>318780526
>They needed minimum 1 tb storage.
Thankfully there's a 1TB PS4 now
>>318780842
sucks for the other 30 million people that already bought them, though.
1 tb is a minimum, but if I installed everything I have right now I'd probably already be most way there. about 800 gb easy.
>>318780460
>>318780675
Which is funny, cuz Nintendo is also the only one of the big three that bother to fucking optimize their games anymore.
>>318768802
Code has no effect on file size unless you're making a very small game (like a Flappy Bird tier iOS game). Almost all the space in a 50GB game is taken up by art assets. Textures, voices, cutscenes. Last gen, cutscenes were compressed 720p. Now they're uncompressed 1080p.
>>318779759
Do the patches not get deleted or someshit? How is that even possible
>>318781176
Optimize in which sense? Size? Nintendo isn't trying to be as visually or technically impressive as most other developers in terms of extreme detail and realism, so that's not surprising at all.
When they do try, we get 720p 30 fps pop in like with xenoblade.
>>318770386
>That's the sound of progress.
No, too many lazy devs coupled with international multilanguage.
Titanfall was 35gb out of 48 for audio files.
>>318781343
Some patches overwrite old data and don't add much to the game installs. Some shitty patches add on.
I don't even remember how many extra gigs of patches master chief collection had.
>>318779595
I have 7.5 terabytes of storage and it cost me less than 300 dollars. How can you not have storage space?
>>318781440
That's more of a failing on Monolith's part.
>>318780620
>Prices of hard drives have stagnated.
>Graph shows SSD prices
>>318781575
>7.5 terabytes of storage
What do you do for a living? Video editing?
>>318781626
Monolith being part of nintendo and that still being the most visually intensive game the company has pushed for their system.
>>318781575
Because those systems ship with a cheaped out 500gb of storage.
>tfw we are running out of internet space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqmKg6QQTw
>>318781784
I fix computers and phones.
I just have a lot of media.
>>318781953
How much of it is porn?
>>318768526
For you.
>>318782006
3 gigabytes or so. I don't save much porn.
>>318781875
>We are going to run out of spectrum by 2014
okay, so, what happened?
Also
>Providers are increasing prices to slow down our consumption to prevent hitting the bandwidth cap
Bullshit
>>318781875
we can start by deleting 90% of youtube videos
>>318781575
If you paid more than 210$ you got jewed friend.
>>318782294
I live in the UK, I just converted the cost to freedomcash, also 500 of those gigabytes are an SSD.
>>318764952
No. Stop buying low cap drives like a poorfag. 2tb minimum.
>>318772871
I pay 7$ per month for 100mbps with NO DATA CAPS.
yes
some of us have kikey isps who impose retarded bandwidth caps
>>318770517
sony owns a part of the blu ray tech. they charge a liscensing fee for software to be able to use blu ray. therefore no one uses blu ray on pc because no one wants to buy into that retarded closed format.
>>318772439
Move from a third-world country maybe?
>>318782928
people don't use blu ray on pc because it is irrelevant.
You don't need an optical drive of any kind anymore. It's not some anti sony thing or a licensing issue.
DVD drives were fading out before blu ray exploded.
DAILY REMINDER THAN ANYONE WHO HAS LESS THAN AT LEAST 50 MB/S UNLIMITED INTERNET CONNECTION LIVES IN A SHITHOLE IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND DESERVES THIS
No, I don't care they can get bigger if they gotta.
I haven't bought a physical disc since 2010 and I don't care for the Africa tier of Internet you people have.
Git gud.
>>318764952
The latest games are around 50gb in size and that is one biiiig game.
It's not uncommon to see 2tb hard drives easily affordable or even bigger.
found a 4tb internal for 150.
>>318773618
or if you are lucky you get google fiber.
>muh botnet
Fuck your tinfoil i want fast internet
>mfw 5 discs
Serves me right for getting the CE.
At least it installs quicker than downloading.
>>318782241
No way, those are still making $$$ for jewgle
Yes and no.
Yes as in there's way too much voiced audio that takes up way too much space, and too many games are going for that BLEEDING EDGE REALISM GRAFFIX push that winds up taking almost all of the space for ridiculously mediocre results that get slathered with bloom and all manner of awful blurring that ends up sacrificing the whole thing to be muddied up textures. The over-reliance on bloom is proof enough.
No, in that they can be much bigger, and be filled with far more content if people stopped whoring graphics over content. I don't mean make pixelated retro-indie garbage, mind, but humble stylized graphics that don't take as much space, looks visually distinct, and has plenty of room for more content without needing to sacrifice a bunch of shit in return.
Imagine if someone went back in time and gave games in the PS1/N64 era 60GB of space to work with. Imagine if Insomniac of old got a hold of 60GB of space to make everything they want out of a Spyro game. Just imagine.
>>318777561
People will just try a 'manchurian candidate' scenario and try to get what they want with reprogramming
This thread is just mad as fuck pc.ucks shitposting because they have no games and any games they do have are poorly optimized.
If games are to keep getting larger and larger in file size, they better be well optimized and have plently of content or otherwise we get cancerous shit like TumblrTale.
Hopefully the byproduct of this is increased internet speeds and more worldwide larger storage spaces. Why are we still at GBs. TB should be the norm now.
>>318783756
A good 50% of all youtube videos have 0 views though. I just made up that stat but its probably true.
>>318783808
it's not even the push for super realistic graphics that's leading to bloated file sizes desu. it's uncompressed audio
The thing that annoys me about huge ass file sizes is there's hardly ever any good reason for them to be that size. Wolfenstein had megatextures taking up most of the space, but they look like shit. Titanfall was just all kinds of retarded with having uncompressed audio for every language. Valkyria chronicles which is 20 or so gb is literally less than a gb with the prerendered cutscenes cut out which look like complete ass anyway because they were from the PS3 version.
>>318784018
No they don't. Source: made up my own stats
>>318769167
You do realize the majority of the size is compressed assets, which has nothing to do with the code
>>318764952
>are games getting too big file size wise
No, it needs to become normal for people to buy blu-ray players for their PCs. We shouldn't have to buy a game like Fallout 4, only for it to be on 1 DVD and have to download 20 GB of it on Steam.
>>318781784
I have more than him and I watch anime and play video games for a living
>>318784036
Then cut the fuck down on the CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE. Though I guess that's just how it is these days, and it'll never be overthrown.
>>318784285
Isn't most if not all PC physical disks just a Steam installer exe just on the disk?
That's really fucking pathetic.
>>318784285
>it needs to become normal for people to buy blu-ray players for their PCs
Will never happen. Most PCs are going disc driveless instead to save space and power for ever more power hungry GPUs
>>318784516
>needing more space in a desktop computer
Just make a bigger fucking box
>>318784467
Actually most of them do have all the data on the disc(s), MGS TPP and Fallout 4 were the only recent exceptions that come to mind.
>>318782928
Except you can watch bluray on any decent media player forfree.
The reason people don't is because of >>318783262
>>318784738
Sorry, normies want the slimmest PCs. Why do you think consoles are so tiny when they could make them the size of a desktop PC and stick an actual good GPU in them and suddenly the console would be a powerhouse
>>318784516
>ever more power hungry GPUs
But modern gpus actually use less power, not more.
Unless you buy AMD I guess.
>>318785323
>Why do you think consoles are so tiny when they could make them the size of a desktop PC and stick an actual good GPU in them and suddenly the console would be a powerhouse
Because then they'd cost the same as a powerful PC.
>>318781758
>graph shows from july last year
he's not the smartest one, is he
>>318785416
>But modern gpus actually use less power, not more.
Then why can't I find a 900 series GPU from Nvidia that only requires a 300 mw power supply? 750TI is the best you can get for that
>>318785497
PS3 did and it won last gen.................eventually
>>318785676
>300W psu
Why?
>>318785773
>PS3 won
>>318785853
Because I'm on a prebuilt and I sure as hell ain't changing a power supply, it's scary enough for me to think of putting in a GPU
>>318785676
>300W
I've 320W without a GPU and need to buy 500W minimum when i do get one
>>318786008
Should've bought a console then
>>318785941
Wii sure didn't.
>>318786008
It's a fucking box with a fan in your tower, just unscrew that shit and replace it
>>318764952
No.
How fucking poor do you have to be to not have a good ISP or 4TB+ hard drives?
>>318786097
Can't, too poor, just want to buy a GPU and ride the 0$ cost of PC games
>>318786008
>prebuilt
>>318786048
Even a decent 550W PSU is like $60 these days.
>>318786249
You don't think I'm actually going to risk a ton of money building my own PC do you? What if I fail?
>>318786180
>having shitty ISPs in your area means you're poor
>>318786342
Technically it does because if you were rich you would live in a better area with better ISPs
Hard drives are cheap yo, bring on 100gig+ games, I don't give a fuck
>>318786326
It's almost impossible to fuck it up these days, you just plug everything and install an OS. The plugs are even color coded and labeled.
>>318786409
Enjoy being "that guy" with a NAS and 5 HDDs and have everyone ask what you're stockpiling there
>>318786405
No, some cities have only one ISP and it doesn't matter if you live in the slums or the suburbs.
>>318786468
You're on /v/, how is it that you have so much self-confidence? I have literally 0.
>>318786572
Then that is what we call a "poor city" like Detroit or Cinci or Cleveland and you shouldn't live there.
>>318786598
Because none is needed to plug shit in.
I might be a jew here, but I don't get it.
I rarely have more the one game installed. Once I get through one it gets deleted and I move on.
I have 250 gig ssd for games and windows and 1tb hdd for uselesss shit I keep because reasons.
If I want a game, I just redownload it. Its not like I would download more then 1-2 games per month anyway.
So - how many games you people keep on those drives at the same time?
>>318780620
bad graph in general. doesn't show the storage size
>>318786764
Around 12, you never know when you want to replay a game.
There's more fun in 7MBs of OOT than in 135gb of TLOU
>>318786509
No one asks me what i'm stockpiling because my nas is out of sight out of mind in my basement right next to where the cable modem is.
Soon as the 10gigabit war is over and we got a clear winner i'm running that shit in the walls and keep only a small SSD in my computer and the rest of the files on my NAS
>>318786891
How often does that happen? Why would you not just redownload it. Granted - I have a fairly fast connection ( 15MB/s are regular download speeds from steam ) but still I'd need about an hour, or so to download 50 gig monster.
The deal is, that I rarely have the need to do so.
>>318783323
>live in US of A.
I won't say I'm surprised
>>318787051
>nas is out of sight out of mind in my basement
Enjoy your spider colony NAS
>>318787164
Yeah, mine is slow, those 50GB would take me hours, by the time it's done I might not want to play anymore.
Plus, hard drives are cheap.
>>318787264
I have given up the basement to the spiders long ago, as part of the peace treaty I get to keep my modem, router, and nas down there and in return I don't spray any big killer down there.
>>318787524
>trusting spiders
Rip anon.
>>318787587
I know ill regret it but I had no choice at the time, a deal had to be made
>>318787587
s︂︂m︂h t︂b︂︂h f︂︂a︂m
Hell there's more fun in 5mbs of Pokemon G&S than in the latest 999tb final fantasy
>>318769357
>using vgchartz to cite sales
>In any circumstance
>>318787898
How
>>318764952
Yes with GTA being over 60gb. HOW THE FUCK IS AN AMERICAN WITH THIRD WORLD INTERNET SUPPOSED TO DOWNLOAD THAT?! Thank god for physical releases.
>>318788406
I dunno somehow a lot of murikans downloaded it. Right?
>>318787902
Except that gen 2 was shit.
It had the best mon though.
>>318788557
I pirated a properly compressed release, it wasn't 60GB.
>>318788685
I couldn't find such a thing, only 60 GB ones. Now Witcher 3 and a few other games had smaller versions, probably with all the weirdo oogabooga ching chong languages ripped out
>>318788557
With Google Fiber. My data cap is maybe 1/3 of that and 4 hours isn't nearly enough time. I'm on Exede BTW. My neighborhood sucks so no cable.
>>318788954
Most murikans don't have a set up like that though.
You guys ever think about how with the passage of time, more and more "names" for games/movies/books/etc. will be taken and eventually we'll end up with fucking long ass names for every piece of fiction to avoid lawsuits?
>>318789117
Satellite is really just for rural areas with no real option which is where I happen to live. I need to get out of there.
>>318785676
>300W
The fuck, my old prebuilt from 2005 had a PS of 400w, where the hell did you buy that thing from, Somalia?
>>318788903
The smallest ones are still around 35GB, but for slow speeds that still saves a lot of time.
But it could be worse, we could have data caps.
>>318789383
I remember my old prebuilt from 2007 had a 240 PSU.
It was a shitty compact lenovo.
>>318789327
Nah, because old things become irrelevant and copyright dies. So we'll just keep re-using names until the language changes, I guess.
>>318789604
Problem is that since the introduction of the internet, content started being created at an alarming rate, and copyright laws hold on for at least 60-70 years AFTER the original creator died. It's just my opinion but I don't think it's going to keep up.
Hey guys, notice how videos games have recently gotten kind of shittier in a technical aspect? (I mean things like file size bloat, long loading times, lack of depth and so on)
Well consider the following. Universities like Full Sail introduced introduced video game design courses into their curriculum in 2007. This is a bachelor's degree, so it takes about 4 years to earn. That is 2011.
Now consider this. Most games take 2-4 years of development.
Do the math and work out exactly where that puts us.
The reason video games are turning to shit is because they're being made by a bunch of fresh out of uni kids who did a game design course. Most of them don't have the technical proficiency needed to make efficient or well made games.
>>318789986
Now now we all know those people dont get into real game development. It's still the same idiots making games now that have been for years.
>>318789986
Here are some more interesting facts.
DigiPen added a game design course in 2008, before that it has things like engineering and computer science degrees.
Jack Baskin School of Engineering added a game design course in 2010.
Ex'pression College for Digital Arts added a game design course at the very end of 2006/beginning of 2007.
I'm sure there are plenty more colleges who introduced game design courses around the 2007-2010 range. But those are some of the biggest ones.
It's clearly not a coincident.
>>318789986
>>318790961
Your argument has as much defensible logic as "notice how jet fuel can't melt steal beams?"
>>318791410
Except that's demonstrably false.
>>318791410
2+2 isn't hard to work out my man. The numbers fit, and most of these universities I have mentioned have programs to get people out of college and straight into the video game industry.
>>318791713
>The numbers fit
