>"Hi, we're the best games of our respective series' but are denied our official position as such because of retarded, contrarian, nostalgia-glass wearing plebs."
>>318723689
>Doom 3
>Quake 4
>Best
>>318724047
Yes.
>>318723689
Can you play Doom 3 on ATM machine, MP3 Player, Printer? No, you can't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0rStdHowAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHx3vO7KJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cf50h0-EQ
Did quake 4 had revolutionary graphics engine that fueled multiple titles YEARS after its original release? No, id hadn't, Quake 3 had.
Was Quake 4 brilliantly advertised around the world? Nope, Quake 3 was.
Fuck off then, and eadt shit. (Dying optional)
>>318723689
Doom 3 is my biggest video game guilty pleasure. It's not really a Doom title, but I thought it was still a pretty awesome game.
>>318726685
I always enjoyed it, can easily go back and play it anytime
It's simple, shoot demons and shit, no bullshit
Always need a game like that here and there
>>318726347
Why don't they make ads like this for vidya anymore? Some of them fucking sucked, but there were good ones.
>>318726347
>eadt shit. (Dying optional)
You have to be over 18 to browse his webzone.
Doom 3 is not best of it's series. It's boring, it has shitty guns so it sucks as a shooter and it's not scary so it sucks also as a horror game. It has no reason to exist at all.
>>318727232
Because they want the medium to be more "mature" anon :^)
>>318727232
Because the audience targeted in that ad is not longer the audience that devs make games for or advertisers make ads targeting.
>>318727391
Nigger I just woke up and already am at work, I'm cranky and posted this while being on the line with a pissed client who has no internet, give me some slack.
Quake 4 has a legitimately fantastic single player campaign.
>>318723689
Now I liked Quake 4, I thought it got a little too much crap. But to call it the 'best' is wrong. Other than graphics there's nothing it did better than Q1 and Q2.
DUDE STROGG LMAO
>>318723689
Quake 3 was the best Quake.
DOOM 3 was probably the worst DOOM game. DOOM 2 was the best.
>>318723689
>Quake 4
>best at anything
>>318727232
Probably because gaming magazines don't exist anymore, which sucks. I used to love reading EGM.
>>318728607
QuakeWorld was the best Quake
>>318723689
Quake 4 was alright after the patches.
Buttsliding was pretty alright.
Doom 3, I'm gonna repeat the mantra of "it was a good game, just not a good doom game."
>>318729287
Everything in QW is fucking broken
Makes TDM kinda fun but Q3 is less of a clusterfuck
>>318723689
FOUR PERSON MULTIPLAYER.
>>318729634
Quake 4 is faster than Quake 3.
>>318723689
Quake 2>Quake1=Quake3>=Quake4
Doom2>=Doom1>Doom3
Carmack>Kevin Cloud>Romero>Tim Willits
Bethdoom not included, or ever to be included.
>>318730874
Quake 2 is trash.
>>318730294
Quake 4 has shit player model selection.
Quake 3 and 4 are essentially the same, but different graphically.
Quake 4 doesn't have per-poly hitboxes like Doom 3.
Doom 3 multiplayer is pretty fast, but claustrophobic.
>>318723689
Comparing Doom3 to Doom1/2 is like fucking apples and oranges.
Either way, I was too much of a pussy to play Doom properly as a kid. I only played them for the first time a few years back, and it's definitely apples vs. fucking oranges.
>>318730990
If you think Quake 2 is trash your opinion on video games, much less FPS games, is invalid.
>>318730874
Thy Flesh Consumed > All
which kind of makes the TFC mod for Doom3 the best.
>>318730990
You could die by spouting random nonsense like that where I live.
>quake 4
>the best
I can believe some fucking morons exist that believe Doom 3 to be the best in the series, but no one thinks Quake 4 is the best in the series.
No one.
NO ONE is that wrong.
>>318731003
Did you reply to the wrong post?
Most of that is irrelevant to my post.
Quake 4 is faster than 3 because of crouchsliding.
>>318731080
>>318731165
I mostly play multiplayer.
I really dislike Q2's.
Quake 4 is literally CoD with a sci-fi skin
>>318731140
Doom 2 came out before Ultimate Doom to be fair.
I do like E4, but I don't like the lack of super shotgun.
>>318731342
Q2 multiplayer is great, fuck off.
>>318731470
Oh come on now.
>not posting the true GOAT Quake game
>>318731582
It's slow as shit and generally uninmpressive as fuck (any Q2 frag video bores me to tears).
>>318731639
It was ok
>>318731342
I will never forgive the shitty weapon design in Q3. The sweet Doom and Doomgirl models are pretty much the only highlight of Q3.
>>318723689
>Doom 3
>Better than Doom 2
Kill yourself.
>that awful machine gun in doom 3
Good lord what a piece of shit.
>>318731824
Model-wise? Yeah they're trash.
UT did way better, even without curved surfaces
>>318728607
>>318731842
>>318730874
>Doom 2
>best
2 loses to 1 for its shit maps.
>>318731943
The sounds Trent Reznor made were way, way better.
me and some friends still play q3 on occasion
freeze tag where it's at
>>318731765
...Fuck off...
>>318732184
>...
Fuck off back to Gaia or whatever underaged shithole you come from.
doom 3 and quake 4 suck ass
>>318731968
>only model wise
Entirely. Don't ever defend the shit weapons in Q3. Q2 and UT99 blow them the fuck out of the water.
The selection is so bad even Doom 3 has a better selection, but because Doom 3's weapons lack any real "feel" to them they're not any better ultimately.
Are you honestly going to pretend Q2 didn't have the best weapons.
>b-but machine gun sucks
So does Doom1+2 pistol.
>>318731224
Quake 4 is my favorite one in the series.
The best Doom is Doom 2monsters + custom map wads.
Doom as a series is superior to Quake.
>>318723689
Hey, at last Quake 4 was fun
Doom 3 was just a pile of trash
>>318723689
anyone got into the new doom alpha? how is it?
>>318732383
I like UT99 a lot but Quake's weaponry, while iterative as fuck was a lot better balanced.
I can't speak for Quake 2 since I barely touched the multiplayer.
>>318731080
Quake 2 had fun multiplayer but the single player was lame as fuck
Quake is best Quake
I don't get why people call Doom the best game ever and shit when it's so outdated, I mean you literally don't even need to aim. It's been wholly passed by.
>>318732383
>Quake 3
>shit weapons
Nigger, did you just call the Quake 3 rocket launcher shit?
>>318732913
>rocket jumps were nerfed into ground compared to any prevous games
>good
I love Quake 4's pistol for it essentially being a Mega Buster, and the game's overall aesthetics are great.
Its singleplayer campaign and map design are shit, though.
The game's shitty linear, tiny corridors are so awful that the brilliant AI is crippled heavily. It's really damn sad.
In custom singleplayer maps with lots of viable objects, the AI shines. They can automatically develop their own pathing and recognize viable cover points without the map maker having to deal with any of that manually.
It's a blast to fight a bunch of Strogg or watch teams of Marines vs Strogg take each other on. The Marines stick together, stay in cover, constantly displace and those with shotguns will aggressively charge in every now and then if they hafe the numbers advantage. The Strogg have hit and run movements, like to jump out between pieces of cover, shooting on the run, and their squad splits up into two halves to flank and perform pincer attacks.
Doom 3 was only average due to
-Horrible gunplay, especially the pistol
-Extremely linear
-Emphasis on horror rather than action
-Final boss was terrible
-Slow movement speed
Quake 4 was a slight improvement over Doom 3 but went backwards in terms of graphics and music. Both are lightyears behind Doom 1 and 2 and Quake 1.
Why is Quake called Quake? Doom I get, it's about demons and shit and you even go to hell to fight them. But Quake? Is it called that because the first game's color pallet was brown, like dirt?
>>318731064
Apples are shit. Oranges are better in every way.
>>318733085
>Doom I get, it's about demons and shit and you even go to hell to fight them.
It's actually because of a pool cue.
> But Quake? Is it called that because the first game's color pallet was brown, like dirt?
Because it was going to shake the industry.
>>318733151
Oranges > ApplesApple Juice > Orange Juice
>neo /v/ pretends to like first quake
Pathetic, no one even really played it back then. It always was doom against Quake2 and arena
>>318733014
That's super cool. I had no idea they had that robust AI
>>318733085
Just a broad term for the enemy forces encountered in the first game. It has no relation to the 2nd and 4th games. Probably not the third either.
>>318733085
It was john romero's character in some d&d game
>>318733210
Oh yeaj, the pool cue from... what, Cocktail or Risky Business or something, right?
I honestly always felt like Quake was a much more evocative name. As a kid, when my friend was telling me about this new game called Quake, and how it was all super dark and it took place in old castles and shit, it just felt very mysterious and heavy. Quake. Shit, it's such a good name. Why the hell don't games have good names anymore?
>>318733210
Quake was named after the character that was originally going to be the main character. He was an absolute badass from the pnp rpg that id played. Quake was originally going to be a mostly melee based game. John Romero got kicked out because everyone else wanted to just make another Doom game so Carmack made up a bunch of stupid shit about Romero being a slacker as an excuse.
I liked Doom 3, so fucking fight me. However I didn't say it's better than Doom 1, 2, or 64.
It's like Quake. 2 is worse than 1, but you're allowed to like it.
>>318733459
>Why the hell don't games have good names anymore?
I like a few current names.
>>318733561
Well, you've done it. This is now a Mary Kish thread. Post Mary.
Doom 3 you might be able to make a case for, though that ending sucked and I really wish they just used more traditional bosses, and moments before you went to hell felt too slow.
Quake 4 is complete shit though and this has to be a troll thread. Though to be fair, I'm in the vast minority in saying I like Quake 2 the most. It just had the best singleplayer.
>>318733225
>Apple Juice > Orange Juice
Enjoy your scurvy, pleb.
Can a 1.13 GHz Pentium 3 with 512MB of RAM and a 256MB Radeon 9550 play DooM 3? I am honestly curious.
>>318733561
I was watching the 2014 Halloween UPF earlier, and I realized I think I'm in love with Mary. She's basically perfect. She also has the cutest god damn laugh I've ever heard.
>>318733776
>Pentium 3
no
>>318733776
Pretty sure that's a better system than what I played it on when the game came out
>>318733776
When Doom 3 first came out, I think I was running it on a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 64mb , 1gb ram and AMD Athlon 1.8ghz single core. It was either that or Geforce FX 5600.
>>318733758
>It just had the best singleplayer.
AI is dumb and slow. Q4 campaign is much better. The only thing Q2 did perfectly was guns.
Quake 1 was by far the best in the series imo. Amazing atmosphere, music, and enemies. Nothing made my sphincter pucker like hearing a fiend leap at me from a blind spot or encountering a shambler for the first time. Quake 2 was a blast and so was 3 just not as great as 1. I didn't play too much of 4 but it seemed pretty bland to me.
>>318733758
Wrong, Quake 1 had the best single player. Quake 2 had the best multiplayer of the Quake games that had single player campaigns. Sure, Quake 3 was better than 2, but that was purely a multiplayer game, so it's to be expected.
This is a Mary Kish thread, why the fuck aren't you faggots posting Mary?
>>318734192
Agreed by far Q1 had the best single player. I dunno what it was about Q2's single player but it just wasn't nearly as good.
>>318733257
Man I still love to play the original quake. My dad and I played through the entire game on christmas eve once. Such a great game
>>318731003
>Doom 3 multiplayer is pretty fast, but claustrophobic.
Obviously you must be referring to the original maps. The map design was pretty small and tight overall but absolutely fantastic for 1v1, if you learn how to play it properly you adapt to the maps and how to move through them. Or just play the huge custom maps which are godawful boring.
What's up with id tech 4 games being so fast in MP? Doom 3 and Quake 4 had slow SP but both had very fast MP, Quake 4 MP is the second fastest in the series
>>318734085
Guns and good enemies to use it on. Quake 4 went the tacticool shooter route and made YOU move slow, so their bad AI while technically better than Quake 2's, made the game seriously boring and not just arcady fast fun.
>>318734192
It's up in the air between these 2 but for me Q2 wins out for me as it decided on a theme rather than just stopping half way as "just another doom clone".
>>318734448
Quake 2 had a lot of the same problems as Quake 4, mostly bland levels and boring enemies. It had some great guns though, the Q2 chaingun will always be one of my favorites.
>>318723689
Quake 4 was nothing but disappointment.
>>318726347
>ATM machine
You do know that ATM's are basically old office desktops? Most of them run the software on windows XP and 98.
>>318734912
>good enemies to use it on
Like what? All the enemies in Q2 have really slow reaction speed. To compensate, they're also really sturdy, which makes some guns feel worse than they should.
Every Q2 enemy that appears in 4 is redesigned to be massively more fun to fight. Grunts have more moves and are more aggressive, Gunners are huge and imposing and attack you faster (but their attacks can be dodged), Gladiators have those cool breakable shields and you can disable their railgun.
>made YOU move slow
You don't really move that slow after the stroggification.
>>318734448
I think Quake 2's single player was kind of shit almost entirely because of the switch to sci-fi. Doom was already a sci-fi FPS, and Quake 1 was a great compliment to that by being a dark, Gothic shooter with nice gritty sound design. Quake 2 becoming sci-fi immediately puts it in contention with Doom instead of as a sort of pairing with it, and it just fails in almost every aspect when competing with Doom.
I don't know why they stuck with the sci-fi setting and stupid Strogg story for Quake. The Strogg aren't interesting enemies. If Quake 5 ever happens I really hope they go back to the gothic/lovecraftian style of the first game. Hell, a new Quake in that style could almost be like a first-person Bloodborne.
>>318735328
Most of them are just XP Embedded to reduce vulnerabilities.
>>318726347
>Can you play Doom 3 on ATM machine, MP3 Player, Printer? No, you can't.
You may as well be able to, considering the kind of old hardware Doom 3's been able to run on.
>>318735107
Yeah that was probably it. Quake 1 really had a great atmosphere that made you feel like you were transported to these different eerie worlds. The chaingun was a ton of fun to use. Nothing was better than spinning that gun up and just turning everything to giblets.
>>318735730
Super nailgun, but yeah, that thing is tons of fun.
>>318735425
Yeah I agree I would love if Quake went back to its original style for Quake 5. I don't think Quake 2's sci-fi style was entirely bad it just could have been a lot more interesting. I definitely didn't want them to keep going with the Strogg after two though. Quake 4 hammered home to me that the strogg just were not very interesting enemies to fight especially since most of them were just humanoids.
>>318726347
>Can you play Doom 3 on ATM machine, MP3 Player, Printer? No, you can't.
Can you name any good reason that someone would want to play Doom on an ATM machine MP3 player, or printer in 2015?
>>318736097
Rumors of Quake 5 point to them going in 1's direction, yes.It's going to be a shitshow.
>>318735806
Super nailgun was really fun I think the only reason I liked the chaingun more was the fact that you would turn most of the enemies into piles of meat when you fired the thing. It just gave a greater feeling of satisfaction to me. You can do it with the super nailgun but you need the quad damage for it to work
>>318736201
Aw fuck yeah that's great news. Why do you think it's gonna be shit though? The new Doom from what I've been hearing is going in the right direction which gives me hope for Quake 5.
>>318736452
>Why do you think it's gonna be shit though?
I didn't say it was going to be shit, I said it was going to be a shitshow. They will need to make sure the SP isn't like Doom, which may anger some; but the real problem will be the multiplayer. Strafejumping alone will be a huge problem, remove it and diehard fans will shitpost about it everywhere, change it and they will still bitch, keep it and doom (heh) the game's MP. That's not even getting to the other core mechanics, like picking up items and starting with nothing
>The new Doom from what I've been hearing is going in the right direction
It's rather divisive still
>>318736162
It's less about anyone wanting to play it and more about the hacker's fun making an engine out of limited hardware that can load up the WAD files of a doom engine game.
>>318736739
Ah I see where your going with this but to be honest I'm just really excited to return to the original Quake's atmosphere. It's been too long since I've played a good fps in an eerie environment. Prey was the last fps with an interesting setting I played and I didn't get to finish it. You can't buy it and dl it online anymore either.
>>318727392
Is that implying all that doesn't also apply to doom 2 or 1?
