So Nintendo has enough time to kill Project M but not enough time to give us a fucking release date for Cloud aka the only character that's going to make Tr4sh actually worthwhile?
It's times like this I truly want to see Sakurai drop dead.
Nintendo only kicked PM out of Apex, PM is nigh ded because TOs are pussies when it comes to possible legal action
>Sakurai is responsible for C&Ds against Project M and is in charge of media announcements and release dates
>>318641387
Project M exists as the answer to his determination to make Smash fun only for the most casual of casuals
>>318640934
It wasn't a cease and desist, they just decided to move on to new things.
>giving a shit about Project Meme
Smash is not even a real fighting game, why bother playing a game that's not even a real Smash game.
Project memers are pure cancer. glad your shit is dead 2bh now go cry about it on reddit
>>318640934
Nintendo didnt kill PM. THe PM guys did it themselves because they thought when they moved on to shit like Wavedash Games, their involvement in PM could give Nintendo a foothold to have them shut down or something stupid like that.
PM isn't kill
Only the PMBR is, Smash Bros mods will still love on
I don't think Nintendo has anything to do with the death of Project Meme.
>>318640934
nobody killed project M, they just decided to move on.
a micracle they haven't done this sooner, considering how shit the community was. Much like this thread.
>>318641690
>>318642146
>>318642171
>Pulls down all download links
>"effective immediately"
>Gives contact information for their lawyer
How stupid are you?
>>318641930
If Project M is a fake game with real fun then Tr4sh is a real game with fake fun
>>318640934
Project M >>>>> SSB4
and Nintendo doesn't tolerate
>>318642227
THey did it as a precautionary measre because theyre a bunch of pussies. THey already confirmed this.
>>318642227
>If Project M is a fake game with real fun then Tr4sh is a real game with fake fun
Congrats on being most retarded poster of the day
>>318642380
Jerking off to the CSS isn't the same as actually appreciating the gameplay
>>318640934
Nintendo didn't do it.
>>318642227
Stop being ignorant.
>>318642817
What that story establishes is how much Nintendo feared them making an actually fun game. Tr4sh would never survive with the threat of an alternative
>>318642964
Did you misread it? They ARE going to make an alternative.
>>318643020
Which Nintendo would've sued rather than actually try to improve Sm4sh
>>318643143
And where are you getting that from?
THat says absolutely nothing about nintendo taking any action.
Nintendo said they wouldn't shut down PM unless they were selling it. They weren't so it wasn't Nintendo who shut them down. They wanted to stop wasting their talents on something they can never make a profit from and are investing their time in original games.
>>318641472
Fuck that's accurate.
>>318643294
He's a delusional meleefag. You can tell by his need to type "HURR TR4SH" in every post he makes. Ignore him.
>>318643431
Explain how Sm4sh is a good game without resorting to bragging about the roster
>>318643294
Which I think they're denying solely to prevent any blowback against Nintendo.
You don't drop that much work in an instant without some kind of threat.
>>318640934
>So Nintendo has enough time to kill Project M
Have they do anything about it recently? What's the news?
>>318643573
All those fun modes like.. target blast and.. smash tour!
>>318643573
Tell me how melee is a good game when its only played for 3 of the characters
>>318640934
Maybe the next DLC will have a melee-esque mode or some shit. Despite Sakurai's whining, Nintendo clearly knows about the melee demand - so it could make sense to have some sort of DLC that emulates it in some ways.
>>318643698
http://projectmgame.com/
>>318643749
All the characters are fun to use
Even Pichu is can be fun as a suicide bomb thanks to the physics which keep the game fast paced and fluid.
>>318642964
>What that story establishes is how much Nintendo feared them making an actually fun game.
Reading comprehension, do you have it? Nintendo has done nothing . It's Wavedash who pre-hemptively acted out of fear from Nintendo sneezing in their direction.
>>318643749
thats still 2 more than smash 4's no items sheik only smashville
>>318643749
>I have never played competitive Melee
>>318643907
>Nintendo was going to do something
>PMDT acts to prevent it
>OH BUT NINTENDO DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING YET. LONG LIVE SAKURAI
>>318643678
Yes you do. if your lawyers advise you to.
project m children should be happy. instead of clinging to smash they're putting all their effort into making an actual game. this new title will obviously be aimed towards the "le esports" crowd. they'll be able to stream it on twitch and monetize it.
you've been complaining about smash being casual babby shit for the longest time now so it's time to make your own game instead of whining. also, project manchildren will fuck off from smash so everyone should be happy.
>>318642227
>Fake fun
>y-you're not really enjoying the game! stop liking what I don't like!
>>318643949
You can't play a party game competitively
>>318644000
They didn't need to nuke the site at that very instant if there was no imminent threat. They could've given fans time to say goodbye.
>>318643787
What does Nintedno have to do with it? Nothing here is saying Nintendo did anything.
>>318644065
But they really aren't if they can't answer
>>318643573
>>318644125
Actions speak louder than words and they were obviously feeling threatened
>>318643995
>>Nintendo was going to do something
They weren't.
You get it wrong on the very first line.
Congrat.
>>318643573
you can't
because it's not melee aka the greatest fighting game of all time
and if it's not melee it's shit
>>318644114
They had to do it if they wanted to move to their actual first professional project. Cut all ties.
>>318644105
Where have you been the last five years?
>>318644105
you can when its coding is so bad that you can abuse the physics to slide across the floor
>>318644226
>Nintendo wouldn't harm a fly!
>>318644238
At least you admit it.
>>318644294
You can cut all ties without having to blow up everything with no prior warning.
>>318644217
>Actions speak louder than words and they were obviously feeling threatened
read >>318642817
They weren't being threatened. it's a decision they took on their own because they wanted to become professional.
>>318644320
>job
>few friends
fucking normies
>>318644372
That sounds completely opposite of competitive
>>318644389
>>Nintendo wouldn't harm a fly!
Hello, strawman fallacy.
>>318644402
>They weren't being threatened. it's a decision they took on their own because they wanted to become professional.
In other words there was a tangible threat of being sued
>Perhaps there was a threat, perhaps there wasn't
This guy doesn't know shit
>>318644320
>tranny comics
Project m is fucking gay and I'm glad it's gone. -meleefags and sm4shfags
#O N E U N I T
>>318644039
>project manchildren will fuck off from smash so everyone should be happy.
This only motivates me to double down on calling out Sakurai's greed and incompetence
I'm glad Project M is dead.
Maybe it'll finally force smashbabbies to move on and stop desperately clinging to the one casual game they bothered to git gud at.
>>318644532
>In other words there was a tangible threat of being sued
The accurate situation is that Wavedash put themselves in a situation where they could be sued and couldn't professionalize themselves without cutting ties first.
The shut down of Project M doesn't come from Nintendo making any kind of action in the first place, bu come from Wavedash desiring to become professional and following their legal counsel.
Nintendo didn't anything more than existing for this to happens.
>>318644815
>The accurate situation is that Wavedash put themselves in a situation where they could be sued and couldn't professionalize themselves without cutting ties first.
And this couldn't have been announced to fans first because....
>mfw 5.5 Wii U
>Smash 64, Melee, Brawl, Project M and 4 all on the same console without paying Nintendo a single cent
I still find it strange that they didn't patch any of the Wii mode exploits. But then again, I don't care.
>>318640934
>this shitty attitude
>actually hyped for Cloud
Shouldn't be surprised that you're such a whiny faggot I guess
>>318643749
Well sm4sh only has 2 characters, sheik and zss.
>>318640934
If the Project M team were smart and had some proper legal advisors, they'd not have shot themselves in the foot in pursuit of a shitty not-melee game.
Project M is pretty fucking janky as it is, I enjoy it, bu tI can't play it for more than 20 minutes at a time before feeling like "thats about all I'm geting out of it today".
Cloud probably wont even be good. None of the DLC characters really gel'd with me. Ryu is fun to fight, but thats about it.
I still enjoy it on the broad more than project M, and melee I can only ever play in small bursts if I don't havefriendsover
>>318644891
>And this couldn't have been announced to fans first because....
Uh? They are announcing it to fan first. This is how we learned the new in the first place.
>>318640934
>aka the only character that's going to make Tr4sh actually worthwhile
do people actually believe this
>>318644939
It's almost as if I'm not a Nintendrone who doesn't blindly follow everything Nintendo makes.
The newcomers this time around were fucking garbage. They either had shitty annoying playstyles or were so irrelevant I still can't believe they're even here
I don't care that it's dead.
They couldn't even be fucked to make a PAL version.
They can go fuck themselves.
>>318644992
>If the Project M team were smart and had some proper legal advisors, they'd not have shot themselves in the foot in pursuit of a shitty not-melee game.
Read >>318642817
They did what they did PRECISELY BECAUSE of legal advisors. They are actually the one that made PM shut down, no Nitendo.
>>318640934
Nintendo killed that fan mod?
topkek baby
>>318644996
>Hey guys, we're going to be shutting down in a few days. If there's any last things you want to do or say now's the time
How fucking hard is that?
>Why is Nintendo allowed to keep their ips under control, why does copyright exist!
>>318645009
Weebs do.
>>318644992
Lawyers are expensive, especially when dealing with big companies. They dont have the time or money for a court case
Nintendo must die. PM didn't do nothing to deserve this treatment. We can't just sit here and let this happen. I'm going to my locals today and destroy all the Pii Us with a hammer. Fuck Tr4sh. We need to show shitendo that we do not forgive.
>>318645183
>Palutena
>Dark Pit
>Robin
>Lucina
>Shulk
>>318645015
this looks stupid as fuck, tell me this is a joke
>>318640934
The fact that Cloud is going to be in that game at all boggles my mind.
Snake was an odd inclusion in Brawl considering how hard Kojima dickrode sony for metal gear, but I guess Twin Snakes was on thd cube and thd old metal gear games were on nes, so whatever.
Then there was Ryu. SF has seen shit in terms of releases on Nintendo consoles and outside of SF2 ports and the 3DS port of SSF4, but at least that's something. What confused me more was how his inclusion came so close with the announcement of SF5 being a Playstation/PC exclusive, but whatever.
But Cloud!? What the fuck Nintendo games has he even been in? Fanservice or not, it makes my balls hurt because the first thing I think of when I see Cloud is Playstation since it's the platform that Square utterly abandoned Nintendo for.
>>318645158
I have no idea. Ask the lawyers of Wavedash.
But pretty hard, I guess, if they have to moderate ll the comments that would stem from such an announcement.
But again, this is in no way indicative that Nintendo threatened them.
>>318645379
>What is a work in progress
>>318645350
wew
>>318645183
Half the Smash 4 roster is literally anime. Fuck off
>>318641930
smash is a fighting game retard. its a game and you fight. every fighter doesn't have to be street fighter, tekken, mk or soul caliber.
>3 days ago a PMDT member was talking about a new model for the next version of PM
>people think Nintenjew isn't responsible
>>318645350
>PM dindu nothin
Figures, the only people who like Project M are niggers I noticed.
>>318645350
so this is the project m fanbase..woah
Time to git gud, pmbabbies.
Good riddance project meme.
>>318645484
show me what finished project m work looks like because i dont know anything about that game
>>318645443
>But Cloud!? What the fuck Nintendo games has he even been in? Fanservice or not, it makes my balls hurt because the first thing I think of when I see Cloud is Playstation since it's the platform that Square utterly abandoned Nintendo for.
That's why he's perfect. He's here to represent one of Nintendo's greatest mistakes on the system which is the greatest mistake they've ever made
You guys need to lurk more. It's old news
>>318645119
Thats
kinda what I meant to imply, got lost in my own post I guess.
I mean its not something they'd be able to sustain or make money off.
If they make their own melee game,, its gonna be bad, I can feel it in my bones.
Theres a niche market for it, so they might as well try.
If they'll be able to squeeze in the polish and balanced fun of other smash game, then sure.
What I hated about brawl, and by extension project M was the sound design, and the visuals.
The "heft" of a lot of moves never quite seemed to match what the sound it made was.
Did they ever take donations for project M?
>>318645530
>Counterstrike and Dota are a fighting games because you fight each other
>>318645613
>show me what finished project m work looks like because i dont know anything about that game
Those characters were never finished because the mod has now been cancelled
>>318645629
What is this?
>>318645547
see >>318642817
It's not Nintendo, it's their legal counselling.
>>318645629
>>318645015
>Intelligent Systems will never make another game that's not a Waifu Simulator
>Nintendo will never acknowledge Advance Wars again unless it's a shitty mobile game spinoff
Holy shit, just copy Snake's moveset. Give us something goddamn it.
>>318645605
swallow your pride and play 4. you cant play fox forever.
>>318643573
Because it's fun, you can play it with 8 people at once. Not that you would know, Meleefags usually don't have 7 friends
>>318645547
The fact that you can still download and play this mod is a clear indication Nintendo do not care about PM.
>>318645836
8 player smash is only fun with literal retards. All the sane people I know play with 4 even when there are 8 people
>>318645009
retards do
>>318645843
>The fact that you can still download and play this mod is a clear indication Nintendo do not care about PM.
Because there's nothing they can do to stop people from playing it
>>318645809
I don't play fox and tr4sh has shallow boring gameplay, so no thanks.
Are you really gonna be dillusional enough to believe Nintendo was responsible?
They stopped themselves because each of them want to do a new project and consider Project M complete
The new character rumors are shit that never happened
>>318645613
This is of an old version but it's still my favorite trailer they released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIxskj3UFV0
>>318645443
3rd party reps and ment to represent Nintendo, but the vidya industry in general
Sonic the Hedgehog
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy
These are all prolific and highly influential game series. Why does it need to be on a Nintendo console? Sonic was their rival for the longest.
>>318645605
I don't want to play Fox, Marth or Falco though.
>>318645725
Release date of the next DLC bundle. This Saturday
>>318643573
Clean, polished, the disparity between getting stomped and being okay isn't drastic enough to make people want to not play anymore.
Roster. Regardless, its there.
Its fun, and better balanced with still more potential yet.
You can't judge the games popularity until the last and final update is out, and all japan-time tier hype has long since faded.
>>318646064
lol.yes you do. everyone plays fox. might as well be a starfox game.
>>318646197
I main Megaman
>>318644916
Since when can you pirate Wii U shit?And how?
>project jank is kill
can't say im surprised or care that much. anyone with a brain just sticks to melee instead of that casualized janky shit.
>>318645809
Ever notice how Sm4sh fans never tell you to play the game because it's actually good
>>318646171
Why is it trustworthy
>>318646179
>the disparity between getting stomped and being okay isn't drastic enough to make people want to not play anymore.
A low skill ceiling is not a good thing and this is coming from someone who sucks at the game
>>318646253
Talking about melee fangs
>>318642817
I still don't get this image at all. What the fuck is Project Wavedash?
>>318642964
Not only are you a fucking fuckboi after smash games being different from each, but your literally illerate
Good job
>>318646064
>Dude, lamo, my game i like is, like, deeper n shit
Boy, you really don't get why people have fun with things, do you?
Do you go to the movies with your friends and then bitch about how you're not watching matrix instead?
Theres interest in Smash 4 because people are having fun figuring out the quirks of the game as time goes on. You know, just like people did with melee.
>turbo mode was an april fools
>ended up real
Reminder this was going to be a real thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOuXKCvhTvw
>>318646291
Because it's a registry catalog at Gamestop. That's updated from the HQ to the stores
>The Smash fanbase is so bad, that they hate previous games in the series and pit them against each other like fighting dogs
Then again, Zeldafags do the same shit, so I guess it's a Nintendo thing.
Genesis 3 entrants numbers
>Melee 1459
>Sm4sh 778
Is smash 4 dying guys? Big house also had only 500 while melee had 1300.
>>318646504
>Boy, you really don't get why people have fun with things, do you?
With Sm4sh I honestly don't and nobody is actually willing to explain it
>>318646375
Oh, OK then.
>>318646562
It's a 4chan thing
>>318646576
Thosr are historically Melee-centric tourneys
>>318645093
My thoughts exactly.
>>318646576
trash was dead on arrival
>>318646291
Not lower skill ceiling, lower skill floor more like.
I don't understand why theres always you faggots every thread, who have to bitch about which of your favorite toys is better and why everyone else should die.
They're different games, built differently, played differently. Smash 4 doesn't suddenly evaporate the existance of Melee.
They're not the same game.
If they made another melee, then why not just go play melee instead?
>>318646549
So an employee leaked that?
>project memefags are still salty
It was already ridiculous holding onto a shitty mod, now you guys are holding onto a dead mod
>>318646291
how can a game be good when it doesn't have wavedashing lmao
>>318646717
>If they made another melee, then why not just go play melee instead?
Because I don't want to play Melee orever. I want a worthy sequel so I can finally move on from it.
>>318646520
Thats badass. Why would they stop, this is awesome? Now I hate them for quiting.
>>318646718
Yes. Last night. There was a thread all about it man.
>>318646620
Then why try?
Its clear that you don't want to like it, so why even pretend you would?
>>318643573
>Explain how this is a good game without resorting to one of the main reasons
That's like asking why Melee is a good game without resorting to bragging about its physics
It's not just the roster, it's the fact that the newcomers all bring something fresh to the table in terms of fighting styles
As well Smash 4 having better ledge options than simply "I grab it first let me wait so you can die"
There's a lot more air control and you don't need to be scared because somebody's gonna hit you for being in the air, nor can you suddenly think your safe because you air dodged when it's predictable to counter
>>318646842
I never got to see it in all the talk about P:M being kill
>>318646504
The interest in smash 4 stems from it being a new game and having dlc to hype it up. The gameplay itself is pure shit COMPARED to melee. I can totally see how braindead casuals could have a blast with it seeing as it requires no thought or skill.
Gameplay > Content
Always and forever
>>318646882
I played this shit for 6 months. I understand being fascinated by a game when its new but I don't get how the novelty hasn't worn off yet
>>318646808
then you're not a true meleefag so your opinion doesn't matter. a true melee enthusiast knows that the game can be played forever and doesn't need to be improved
So, who do you main in Sm4sh?
I recently picked up Mario. Nigga's a surprisingly good character.
>>318647063
Of course not
I'm a64fag
>>318646985
The gameplay isn't bad just because it doesn't pander to tourneyfags, this is like saying that mario kart 8 is shit because you can't pull a competitive tourney out of it
>>318641472
To bad only 9 people play Project Meme
Modding is the only hope smash has of being a good competitive game in the future. Melee is getting stale as fuck, and seeing the direction Nintendo have taken the series it is obvious they are never going to make another Smash that will be good for competitive play. Meleefags might not care now, but when the game is as dead as 64 is you will eventually have to move onto Brawl 3 or 4.
>>318646985
Its new
People are still figuring shit out
It looks, sounds, and tastes better than previous games.
Thats why people enjoy it.
>No skill
well okay then
I've said before. Wait till the hype dies off completely, and see if the game can stand on its own two feet from the comunity like melee still does.
Only then will these shitty cry fests ever hold any value.
>>318646985
BUT MUH ROSTER
WHO CARES THAT MELEE IS MORE FUN TO PLAY, ROSALINA, DARK PIT AND PAC MAN!!!
>>318647104
Megaman
>>318646887
Sm4sh doesn't have better lesge options. In fact, there is virtually no ledge game at all, and to top it off edgeguarding is extremely rare compared to melee. This results in people living much longer which makes a slower game.
>>318645443
Snake was only in Brawl because Kojima's son wanted to see one of his dad's characters in Smash Bros, and Kojima and Sakurai are buddies. After brawl Sakurai got rid of every hint of MGS being in Smash for 4. Kojima said he was more than willing to let Snake be in 4 but Sakurai never contacted him, so yes his only reason for being in was as a favor to a friend, he wasn't meant to represent anything.
>>318647328
Forgot my fap material
>>318646985
>Gameplay > Content
That's why Undertale isn't the PC GOTY, right? Times are changing son.
>>318647174
lel
fuck off retard
>>318647104
I play Roy in every Smash game or mod he's in.
>>318646985
If you want a competitive game then go play a competititve game you entitled baby, stop expecting games to change to appeal to your tastes, melee competitive scene was completely made up of glitches and exploits
>b-but sakurai said that wavedash was a feature
one glitch that they decided to left in the game for the hell of it doesn't mean they were trying to create a competitive fighting game, which they proved with the sequels
>>318643573
Final Smashes
More items
More stages
Bigger roster
balance updates
hype for upcoming content
8 player smash (Sorry i know you guys wouldn't be able to use it in melee because only 6 of you play it but it is fun if you have friends)
>>318647104
I play Marth andGanondorf.
>>318647775
>>318647863
>muh metagame
See? I can do it too
>People are legitimately accepting the "quantity > quality" generation like it's a good thing
this is really sad. but what do I know, I'm just old and need to get with the times, right?
>>318647863
Not that guy but at this point, aren't you only refuting his points with not muh melee mechanics to explain why Sm4sh is not good?
Melee is only fun if you have someone equally as autistic as you to challenge you.
Otherwise playing against CPU's is boring as shit.
If you don't live within driving distance of a tournament scene, then good fucking luck ever really getting to play at the level that makes the game even worth it, and making friends to play it with.
>>318647931
Except a metagame actually relates to gameplay.
>>318647863
The only reason you hate Brawl and Smash 4 so much is because it isn't exactly like Melee which you dickride as God's gift to man because of some glitches they didn't take out before releasing it. Instead of throwing a shitfit over all games not being like your favorite game, play it like it's supposed to be played. If you really need your tourneyfag competition so badly, Melee still exists.
>>318647967
Seeing how you keep holding onto a 15 year old game I don't think you'e able to "get with the times"
>>318645443
Sonic was, for a good third of his existence (half as of his Brawl debut), the mascot of a company so competitive with Nintendo that the two literally ran attack ads against each other. He's every bit as out-of-place as Cloud, but people don't complain about him because his inclusion allows them to live out their autistic Super Mario Bros. Z fantasies or whatever. If we're gonna be honest, most of the third-parties have fuck-all to do with Nintendo - Mega Man and mmmmaybe Ryu are the only ones with strong ties, so the "they're irrelevant to Nintendo" argument doesn't really hold up.
>>318648084
>ad hominem
>>318648067
>new content don't relates to gameplay
whatever you say meleefag
>Project Manchildren upset that their shitty mod got taken down
Hey, if you listen really carefully, you might be able to hear a fuck.
>>318640934
I think Sakurai scapegoating has gone far enough
>>318648104
But I play other modern fighters as well. Smash is the only one whereas I feel a significant drop in gameplay quality from melee onward to the point whereas I cannot bother with it competitively.
>>318648232
Why? Has he retired?
>>318647863
So you could remove half of melee's roster and you would think the game was just as good.
oh wait you only play 5 of them anyways i guess you would
Are the rest of the FGC like this? There's a SF player somewhere complaining about how SF4 don't have the same parry system as SF3? There's a "Project Third Strike" out there?
>>318648187
Pointing out facts is not ad hominum. Look through this very thread to see the people raging and whining about Brawl and 4 because there's no wavedashing and infinite chaingrabs and SHFFLwaffles. Look at all the ragers who keep saying "TR4SH!!" like grade school children screaming on the playground.
>>318647863
Party games for children aren't legitimate fighters.
>>318648240
Yeah, they actually bothered fixing the glitches on this one
>>318646450
>Project Wavedash
It's gonna be the LoL of Smash. You heard it here first.
GET HYPED. THE NEXT BIG THING IN E-SPORTS IS COMING.
>mfw Project M fags
>>318648309
I know you're baiting and what have you but if you can do that with a game and it still remains good, then that just speaks for itself.
>>318648198
If it isn't a furry animal with a gun, they don't care.
>>318648396
Go to bed Sakurai, Calling it a party game isn't a free pass for you not to try.
So how much longer until the rest of the source code gets leaked and/or someone from pmdt actually explains what happened?
>>318648338
No, the competitive Smash community is a fucking embarrassment.
>>318647769
Trust me, I don't expect anything from nintendo and I have never once expected sakurai to cater to me. Nintendo was good back when I still a kid, I fucking hate nintendo now since I have grown up and their games have stopped appealling to me. And that's fine. Melee got to where it is today because of good mechanics. Wavedashing is not a bug and l-cancelling is an intentionally programmed mechanic. It didn't become popular and get this large passionate community from bugs you fucking newfag. The engine is incredible and allows for depth that is not present in any other smash game, unintentionally or not.
>>318648521
>a design choice isn't valid if it doesn't pander to me
god damn sm4shfags, get the fuck out of this thread and go circlejerk over waifus and Nairo's latest u-air u-air u-air u-air boost kick combos in /vg/.
on an actually related side note, what are the chances that PMDT 2.0 can give us a worthy 3.7? (bug fixes and fine tuning)
>>318648579
some of it is out already
>>318648645
Then who does it pander to?
>>318648790
Normal people
>>318645629
>>318645734
someone explain to me why this is worth believing in the slightest
>>318648790
Children. You're playing on Nintendo consoles after all.
>>318648467
Yeah the game was good. 15 years ago it was good. Just because you and 7 others can't let go of it doesn't mean its better than sm4sh. =)
>>318645703
Nope, shooters
Keep reaching, dipshit
>>318640934
>yfw Nintendo launches his own PM version for Smash 4 called "Melee mode" and that was the reason why PM team was forced to C&D
>>318648790
people who want to play a party game
>but that's not us, le melee master race, so it doesn't count
hang yourself
>>318648790
Non-autists
>>318648712
Is the codeset wiz leaked the entire thing? I got that part
>>318648837
>>318648985
The normal people I know don't even notice the difference between Sm4sh and Melee so it certainly doesn't help them
>>318648895
Most of us here were kids when Melee came out.
>>318648967
I don't see how anyone would be mad at that, why want a mod when there's an official version of what you want?
I mean, I know those autists would be mad anyway, but I really don't see why
>>318648904
>Just because you and 7 others
>=)
Okay, now you're trying way too hard. You were onto something before but you blew at this point.
>>318648945
Dota is not a shooter you stupid piece of shit
>>318648980
So what's the difference between a fighting game and a party game? A party game is allowed to be bad?
>>318649158
>The game is bad if it doesn't fill the niche I want
Ok
>>318649152
He used a =) face not a >=) face
>>318648467
>that just speaks for itself.
Yeah, and it's saying that the game is an unbalanced piece of shit, and that over half the characters are completely fucking worthless.
But hey, it has great glit-sorry, FEATURES like wigglewashing, bumpydashers and shineshaking, so who cares, right?
>>318646197
When were Pikachu, Link, and Donkey Kong foxes?
Post yfw they announce melee HD or even a regular melee re-release on Wii U VC.
I almost want the latter because I fear for HD being PAL Melee.
>>318649236
Being good is a niche?
>>318640934
>le Tr4sh meme
Still mad about PM sucking shit and finally getting canned, huh?
>>318649610
It need to be competitive to be good?
>>318649268
Sheik is sm4sh completely invalidates over half of the cast but you aren't saying shit about that. Besides, 8-12 characters is a solid healthy amount for a fighting game and it's actually pretty good considering how brawls balance was and other fighters.
Also having good gameplay mechanics that add depth and complexity >>>>>>>> 100 shitty meme characters.
>>318649690
It needs to be fun to be good. Rolling around and fishing for grabs in Sm4sh isn't fun
>>318649021
Links, fucka
>>318649603
What's wrong with PAL? I know it had some changes but they don't seem bad aside from a couple weird nerfs.
>>318647775
>Final Smashes
>More items
>More stages
>Bigger roster
>balance updates
>hype for upcoming content
I thought you were talking about PM
>>318649603
>Melee HD
>everyone would play on an SD TV with Composite Cables anyways
>>318649771
I'm a Marth main.
>>318649771
They removed all the """features""" so that means it's bad.
>>318649158
The Fighter is allowed to be tedious and require dedication unnecessary for video games.
>>318649807
I don't think you'll see those things in a dead project
>>318642817
project wavedas is a derivate wok of smash though
it's in the name right there
>>318649890
But you just said Sm4sh isn't a fighter so there's no excuse for how tedious it is
>>318645158
Why the fuck would you want to see a bunch of manchildren cry over a shitty mod being discontinued? The forums would be filled with shit like "I'm literally shaking right now" and autistic shit like what there fanbase is known fot.
>>318649865
Features like what?
>>318646457
*you're
>>318648605
>"stinky day"
>>318649695
But sm4sh for updates =O
that means we still have time for everyone to be balanced.
>8-12 characters is a solid healthy amount for a fighting game
this is what melee fags actually think
>>318650013
Because they actually appreciate the work that actually goes into a good game
WHERE'S MY DECEMBER DIRECT SAKURAI
>>318650017
No, not features, """features""".
>>318650097
>game
>>318650151
Okay, what are those? I'm legit curious.
>>318645443
Cloud has been in a few games that were on Nintendo consoles, about the same if not more than Snake.
>>318650272
Cameos in minor handheld spinoffs.
The original Metal Gears were on the NES and MGS 1 and 3 have been ported to Nintendo systems
>>318649695
Having a character that resonates with you is important. Melee is great, but I dislike that sometimes I'm gonna lose at the character select screen. I mean, I may as well not even bother playing if it's going to be like that.
>>318650114
right here buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq7q1rVJtrY
>>318650354
Melee is far from the only fighting game that's like this.
>>318649769
I don't follow PM modding, so I don't know what this is exactly, but here:
http://pastebin.com/KDyiJByK
>>318640934
project meme killed itself
>>318649603
The only realistic way to profit off of making a Melee HD would be to include it in a HD smash remake bundle on the NX. It would be great advertising for the NX to have the smash community run melee hd tournies for the next 10 years.
>>318645843
Does anyone have a link where I can download it?!
FUCK YOU GIMR
PMfags on suicide watch
Dem tasty tears
>>318645350
Project Meme fans, everybody.
>>318650480
That's true. It's a shame, since even somewhat decent balance is difficult to accomplish.
>>318645443
>But Cloud!? What the fuck Nintendo games has he even been in
KH: CoM, KH:Coded, Theatrhythm 1+2 and Final Fantasy Explorers
>>318650080
This debate will never be settled. Casual/Competitive, Content\Gameplay. Why can't they just make a game that appeals to both sides? Melee was great at this and you can't deny it. Best selling gamecube game and guess what? Nobody fucking knew about the depth underneath. This war could end if sakurai wanted it to.
>>318650272
All the "requirements" for being a smash character were made up by the shitty community anyway, I'm glad a character who don't fit in their shitty headcanon was added, maybe now the roster discussions became less horrible
>>318649750
Competitive Melee is full of both of those, too.
>>318650835
The fighting games out there that are considered the best are notoriously known for their lack of good balance. Balance is far from the sole thing that makes a good game.
>>318646116
>Sonic was their rival for the longest.
It's still kind of surreal playing a classic Sonic game on a Nintendo console
>>318650991
>Nobody fucking knew about the depth underneath.
Which is why the game couldn't work online.
>>318640934
>Nintendo has enough time to kill Project M
there was no C&D. the devs decided to stop.
>>318648854
Faith, trust and pixie dust
>no homo
