What does /v/ think about the SC series?
Pic related is my personal favorite.
>>318592961
I was real into it up until 5.
>>318592961
me and my roommate solve arguments with the Gamecube version
luckily my Mitsurugi rapes his Kilik
>>318593159
agreed. 5 had pretty good gameplay but the story killed it for me.
>>318593427
That's how I feel along with the general cast overhaul. I mean ultimately these things shouldn't really matter in a fighting game, but I still was interested in them.
>>318592961
My nigga. 2 is the GOAT SC.
Killed by incompetence
>Focus on extra content for 3 games, leaving the core of the game a horrid buggy mess
>This alienates comp fags
>Make 2 games in a row with no single player, alienating casual fags
>By the time you try for a game with actually good multiplayer, no compfag outside of the die hard SC fags wants to touch the series anymore
SCII remains my favourite fighting game, and the only one I ever got gud at besides Street Fighter 2.
One of the best soundtracks in gaming, cool characters, good stage backgrounds, lots of content, I could go on.
fucking loved 2. loved playing as link
>>318594438
linked suck compared to most of the cast
>BUH BUH MUH RO THROW
>>318594928
I think link was neutered because they were afraid of overpowering their first projectile fighter
>turns out projectiles are ass in a game where sidestepping is as easy as walking
>>318594928
doesn't matter. he was still fun as fuck for me personally.
Loved Soul Blade on PS1, only ever played Soul Calibur in an arcade a few times, got SCII on Gamecube because fukken Link and loved it, liked SCIII well enough despite some things being worse than II, and was thoroughly disappointed by SCIV. Never played V.
II is still my favourite mostly for nostalgia. I spent an insane amount of time playing it with friends, and it also had tons of single player content for a fighting game.
I wish Bamco would go back to the series outside of trash like Lost Swords, because I prefer it over Tekken.
>>318593984
to be fair, with the small budget of SCV
it did well
>>318595215
>>318595335
ezio is pretty much the best guest character
balanced and filled his own niche without being too op or too weak
>>318595396
play online
I has a lot of fun with 3 ane 5 was a birefest for some reason
>>318592961
Did /v/ forget the series existed up until the SC6 rumors? Been a lot of threads recently.
Also what's a good place to learn how to git gud at SC5? I like Edgy Pyyrha but am not quite sure how to optimally punish niggas.
>>318595601
Do people still play online for any of the games?
>>318595638
Omega Pyrrha is mostly reaction
you REALLY REALLY have to land DAS and get the 4 at the end to do your damage
and timing her aGI to completely counter Viola is as hard as timing a JG
>>318595781
well you should've back in its hay day
shit was TIGHT
Does anyone else not like Roger Craig Smith as Siegfried? It's weird because I like him as anyone else.
Soulcalibur is so fucking good. Every game in the series was solid (except for Lost Swords because that was nonsense).
Can't wait to see what Nightmare looks like in SC6, he was always my favorite.
Which version of SC2 is the most popular?
I heard the Xbox version is the least liked because no one cared about Spawn. I thought it was cool seeing him in, and he was fun to use.
>>318596845
Gamecube without question
PS2 if you're a comp fag
>>318596845
I've always heard people talking about the Gamecube and PS2 versions.
SC2 Cervantes is best Cervantes.
>>318596845
I had PS2. I underestimated how a fisting could fare against an axe.
>>318596845
Not sure what performed the best (I'm guessing Xbox), but Link sealed the deal for me back then.
>>318596612
hes supposed to be older and wiser
I think he did good
>>318596768
This has always been my opinion. I thoroughly enjoyed every main Soul Calibur game.4 and 5 are my favorites.
Anyone think they're gonna go back to the original cast for SC6? Would it take place before or after SC5? The only confirmed dead character is Sophitia but we have Pyrrha to replace her. So any character could still come back if the game takes place after 5.
>>318592961
The gamecube controller is fucking ass for Soul Calibur.
>>318593273
A friend of mine challenged me on the PS2 version, I always played the GC version only and hadn't a PS2 at said times.
I kicked his ass the same way since round 1.
SC2 a best.
>>318596612
Eh, I don't mind him. I liked it better when he was Crispin Freeman in SCIII, but that's just because I'm full homo for Crispin Freeman.
Noboyuki Hiyama a best though.
Bring back whoever did the music for SC2
Bring back nightmare's voice actor for SC2
those two contributed majorly to the game's success in the west. literally a perfect voice actor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMpJHUtMc-4
Also SC2 was probably the best looking game of its console generation desu senpai
>>318597093
I don't really agree, it just sounds off to me. Maybe if they would have had him from the start I would have felt differently.
>>318597150
I mean honestly I'd prefer it if they went back to the original/main cast. The new characters did nothing for me.
>>318597207
Gotta get yourself one of these bad boys.
>>318592961
also my fave, op
good taste.
I really like 2 and 3. 4 was still alright. Didn't play 5 at all
>>318593273
Mitsurugi is the dude. My brother played a bunch of kilik. same matchup
>>318597207
I disagree, I love the little notches giving more precise inputs in fightan.
GC would be my pad of choice if it was usable with non nintendo consoles.
>>318595396
4 was a slow dumbed down piece of shit
>>318597150
no People like both characters
Pyrrha will probably purified so much that she lost omega fighting style
sophie will either be elysium or resurrected or something to keep her style
both normal Pyrrha and Omega/Sophie play COMPLETELY differently despite sword and shield being the same
>>318595879
What the hell do all these terms mean? I've googled shit and I don't know what TAS B means.
>>318597321
I agree, though I think they should stick with Paul St. Peter for the announcer. That man has the voice of God.
>>318597150
I really hope so. I didn't like how Kilik became the edgemaster and Xiba just took his style "just because" among other things.
>>318597507
and this is talking about japan's want to do with Pyrrha
>>318597591
That was stupid as hell.
>>318597150
I would hope that the original cast would return, but we know absolutely nothing about SC6 right now, so only time will tell.
Also what game is that pic because what I'm seeing is Sophitia in a musou.
SC2 is one of my top 5 videogames of all time.
>Best looking environments of its generation
>Beautiful character models
>Fantastic gameplay, accessible yet deep (ignoring glitches discovered by FGC years later)
>Tons of single player content
>No shitty create-a-characters that cheapened the experience
>Amazing localization, fantastic voice actors
>One of the best soundtracks ever put into a game
It's a game with almost no flaws. It does everything extremely well.
>>318597569
I fuckin hate you know that?
DASB is basically her 236236B4 move
>>318592961
I stopped buying them when they stopped putting Seong Mina in them. Got hooked hard on the Dreamcast version Kilik for life yo.
>>318597879
>no deep mechanic flaws
I bet you fought HARD level computers and found that amazing when you actually won
GTFO your opinion has no weight
>>318597958
why not try the other characters?
at this point in even in ONE game, they have more depth in character and fanservice then past games
mina is shit anyway
>>318597994
For the average to semi-competitive player, the gameplay was fantastic. Really no deep mechanic flaws besides glitches discovered by the FGC years after release.
SC3 was a huge step back in gameplay, the weight was gone from most attacks, characters could fly, and everything got far less realistic and far more sloppy. Not to mention the basic glitches everyone found out.
Loved 1 and 2, own all three versions of 3 and sometimes play the non Link versions, but glad this controller hooks up to all three consoles, which is fucking awesome.
There were some labyrinth missions I could only clear with link's RO throw though. Like take down 5 people in 2 minutes or some shit iirc.
>>318597958
Didn't she and the other Korean characters get name changes/reorders?
>>318597881
Thanks, that sums it up. I'll just give up now. I don't want to deal with terminology I can't even Google. If that makes me a disgusting casual, so be it.
>tfw you want SC6 to not even have create a character, and just focus on the best gameplay and stages / music (like SC2)
>tfw without the waifu creator it would sell even MORE like shit
suffering
>He doesn't main Astaroth
Fucking worms!
>>318598649
my friend mains Rock and Astaroth and all he does is grab bull-rush grab and it gets him wins everytime.
>>318597385
Whatever, fag, the gamecube controller is still objectively shit for Soul Calibur, which is the topic of discussion. You have to press two buttons simultaneously to do certain moves/grabs and it's fucking impossible to do that for B with any button but A and the shoulder buttons. The GC controller also has two fewer shoulder buttons for shortcuts despite the Z button existing because moving from R to Z in a fast paced game like SC2 can't be done fluidly.
>>318596975
>>318597015
heihachi was nice with his tekken skills in SC2
pulling 10 hit combos, fucking up peoples shit
link was fucking stupid, but the only choice for a nintendo system
>>318592961
I like it.
I want my SC6. Just give me more of SC5.
>>318598408
What rare mineral is this?
>>318598612
i want SC3 creator back
i want to have semi unique fighting styles and not just YOU ARE THE CHARACTER JUST WITH DIFFERENT ARMOR AND SHIT
>>318598773
your friend sucks
you need to learn all the fun shit roth can do
>>318598612
different divisions man
as far as I can tell stages are pretty easy after them having years of experience
if you mean single player shit
get the fuck out
beating up only computers gives you bad habits
>>318599528
the styles sucked though
>>318599528
hard to balance
if it where up to me, I'd make them all weaker then the cast, then stomp on special snow flakes all day with a moe character
>>318599528
My nigga. I had a fuckload of fun doing the Chronicle of Swords as my OC donut steele
>>318598408
It was SC2 that had the guest characters.
Say what you will about SC3, but I still like the custom character creation more than 3's or 4's. The custom movesets were the most creative shit I've seen. Lance and Grieve Edge were godlike and I wish SC4/SC3 made some actual characters from these new styles.
SC5 was fun gameplay-wise. Not as much as SC2, but enough to be enjoyable on a competitive level.
Pic related was the best thing to come out of SC in general.
>>318599828
is fun really beating up mindless computers that are so stupid you might as well be beating up babies?
>>318599931
>Grieve edge
>new
>not just copy and pasting some tekken animation
Who /Kilik/ here?
>>318599931
>not Talim
ur waifu a shit
>>318600154
I'm a Kilik and Maxi main, but I'm more confident with the former.
>>318600226
She was my favorite to play as, but didn't they change her gameplay from 2 to 3?
>>318600226
Her design went to shit starting in 3.
I think it needs more Taki
>>318600226
you and me need to stand together
>>318600154
what was so appealing about kilik?
was it his short romance with X?
was it his typical monk?
was it because he looked white?
was it his bo staff style that was basically theatrics?
guy is so plain you might as well call him a white bread sandwhich
>>318600226
Amy is better.
>>318598612
I hate both the character creator and guests. I wish the game went back to having it's own identity instead of having to borrow hype or give people an excuse to make a shitty Cloud or Bleach replica
>>318600512
His reach, mostly.
>>318600652
other people had similar yet more power in their reach
>>318592961
I miss Spawn. Why can't he be cool again? Why is Todd letting him go to waste?
>>318597321
idk man, metroid prime, splinter cell 1 and RE4 are all same gen and look better
i love SC2 tho don't get me wrong
>>318600512
I liked him better when he was Seung Mina
>>318599906
yeah, SC2 was the third game though. Don't forget Soul Blade on the PSX.
>>318599150
http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Calibur-Universal-Arcade-Stick-GAMECUBE/dp/B002BRVNKQI fucked up and meant 2.
>>318600154KONNGO!
>>318600802
I don't know about the older ones, but not in 4. Kilik's balance of reach, power, and speed could be quite frustrating
>>318599528
I just want them to stop adding guest characters if I can't CaS with their styles. Fuck Algol too.
>>318598175
>why not try the other characters?
Oh I do, but my favourite to play were Kilik and Mina. I mained Mina and used Kilik as reserve, and the later games had some interesting characters (iirc some of minas moves were shared with hwang or assassin or whatever) but SC2 was pretty much the best version of the game, I tried 4 and 5 but I didn't like them enough to buy.
>mina is shit anyway
Let us agree to disagree.No SC girl is as cute as Dreamcast Mina, fact.
>>318597591
It wasn't really "just because," it was more because of the fact that they wanted to bring in another staff user and it was easy to make A Mischievous Monkey Boy because he was basically going to become Soul Calibur's version of Sun Wukong.
Not saying it isn't bullshit...I fucking hate Xiba, I think he's a dumbass character, and the moves that he had 'in place" of some of kilik's (like the one where he humps the stick) had no fucking place in the game, especially turning one of the more memorable fighting styles into a joke.
Kilik was basically SC's "pubstomp" character. Very hard to deal with if you don't know what you're doing, very easy to deal with if you do.
Astaroth, on the other hand...
Hard to deal with at every skill level.
>>318600802
I mostly played IV. Kilik hit like a truck despite his reach.
>>318601260
I hate that we're dropping established characters but somehow still find room for asscreed or fucking whatever fad bullshit is popular
>>318592961
Just recently got the platinum trophy in V, unashamed 'Rugi user reporting in.
>>318597881
That guy from before. Read into notation and I kinda get it, it's the double nemesis step + arch predetation right?
>>318595638
If you want to learn the engine in and out, it's at 8wayrun man. Google it and thank me later.
ARE YOU OKAY
>>318602110
BUST WOLF!
Amazing series. And amazing teenage faps. Please bring back armor destruction.
>>318592961
I love it to death
I started as a kid smashing buttons on SCII because I heard Link was in it, and I've since bought, played, and enjoyed every entry in the series (Yes, even Legends).
SCV is definitely the best, has my favorite system for competitive fighting of any game I've ever played, I wish it had a proper dev time
Here's hoping the dig up the shallow grave they buried Daishi in for SCVI and let him have an actual budget
NAMU
>>318602110
shit man, getting into a car wreck with Terry might as well be a trip to the hospital
your GOING to ask the question without knowing!
GO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZrOIt3metM
>>318597569
TAS B = Twin Angel Step B
236236B
The stab
Double quarter circle B
"Does it hurt?"
Nemesis strike
>>318601443
Astaroth isn't too hard to deal with once you know his style. He doesn't go low a whole ton, except for his low spin axe which goes into his mixup. Other than that, it's just leaping grabs, his rush move and the Just version of it. The key to beating him (at least for me) is a rushdown with Rugi. I don't know the 8way run equivalent but his forward tap vertical is excellent, bA, 4B, EX trip kick slash. He can easily bust Astaroths shit hard. Also, Astaroths super move is a joke, it's easy to dodge unless you're lagging pretty badly. Smart Astaroths will try to range and rush mix, but if you play him enough, he's slow enough to be fairly readable besides his rush move.
>>318598649
>MFW they block 4[B]
>>318602809
Thanks. I've been reading into the notation. I have no desire to play competitively, as I'll just practice for now and hopefully by time 6 comes around I'll be familiar enough with notation to really understand how people play.
>>318602428
>SCV is definitely the best,
Five a shit
>>318602916
You're forgetting some of his other tools.
He IS slow, yes, but 6K comes out so fucking fast, leads into a chaingrab, and isn't punishable on block (by most, at least).
He also has a very good up-close neutral game because of that and his normal/crouching regular grabs. He has more to him than just zoning / rushdown.
(I main him and Yoshi, so I've been forced to learn how to deal with him as well as learning how to play him.)
>>318592961
SC5 alienated fans with the new roster even though customization and fighting was better, Lost swords further alienated fans who were willing to put up with SC5
SCV is my favorite game so far, with SCI being second and SCII following after that. Never played SCIII and SCIV was fun to me, but felt like a really fucking weird game.
We can only hope this shit goes somewhere
WHO /NIGHTMARE/ HERE
>>318592961
It always felt to me like this game was too complicated to really enjoy casually but too simple/unbalanced to enjoy competitively. Still, I had a lot of fun with 2 back in the day. Only game where Talim isn't a complete retard.
I still cant get rid of my SC2 habits in SCV and its driving me insane.
so this go anywhere?
>>318603516
Soul Calibur is easily the most accessible legit fighter.
I love all of the games for different reasonsExcept for that horrible Wii spinoff
>>318602916
>Astaroth isn't too hard to deal with once you know his style. He doesn't go low a whole ton, except for his low spin axe which goes into his mixup.
IT doesn't really function as a mixup, too slow. Jump or jg the low, step or jg the mid. But he doesn't need lows, his mixup is mid/grab, not mid/low
>The key to beating him (at least for me) is a rushdown with Rugi. I don't know the 8way run equivalent but his forward tap vertical is excellent, bA, 4B, EX trip kick slash. He can easily bust Astaroths shit hard.
Rushdown probably is the best way to beat him, but careful about hitting too many buttons because:
>Also, Astaroths super move is a joke, it's easy to dodge unless you're lagging pretty badly.
Asta should never use his super move, he should be saving meter for combos. Press too many buttons and CH 6B 22K 22B BE 66B is a lot of damage. More if you're near a wall.
Asta does have some fast buttons, the most notable of which is 4B. i16, and + enough on hit to force a mixup. And it can be held to 4[B] which is plus enough on block to force a mixup.
So basically, anytime Asta can squeeze in an i16 move, he has a mixup that leads into a mixup.
>>318603052
You a shit
>>318603619
I guess we'll see, pic related >>318603257
>>318603135
>and isn't punishable on block (by most, at least).
m8 it's -14
Most people can AA it at least. It's not stab punishable though
Who would you guys pick as console exclusive guest characters?
I'm still surprised they used Star Wars. What was up with that anyways? Who would even, for any reason, think of having Star Wars as guest stars?
>>318599931
>Fellow Tirafag
Mah nigga.I like Setsuka and Cassandra too tho
I hope Pyyrha keeps her demon arm in the new game. I found it oddly endearing. I was pretty disappointed that you couldn't keep it when making new costumes for her.
>>318603135
Ah yeah, I forgot about his 6K. At least for me on the PS3 I don't really have too bad of a problem with his grab game. I strafe and grab a shitload, until they start busting out his low axe spin and stuff, or his annoying side swipe with the axe. Also I've noticed kB with Rugi seems work pretty well against him too. I'm not knocking Astaroth but just for me he's not one of my feared opponents. That would be someone who's really good with Yoshi, Viola, or sometimes Maxi. I'm by no means of a pro myself, my win record is perpetually stuck at 57% in player match. My mains are Rugi/Raphael, and I use Pyhrra, Yoshi, Ezio, Maxi
>>318603906
Shiet I think I'm thinking of 4.
>>318603641
I'm not much of a fighting game player. What qualifies as a legit fighter? I imagine Tekken qualifies. Does Mortal Kombat?
>>318603939
Geralt from The Witcher maybe? I'm not a huge fan of the guest characters, but Ezio was pretty cool and I'd imagine Geralt could be adapted in a similar way, pretty easy to transition to this series
>>318603939
no one
I'd stop all guest characters because there is no topping ezio due to setting
>>318604062
MK is barely making the cutoff lately.
Definitely wasnt the case in the PS2 era.
Usually people will stick to legit games, because whats the point of wasting time with a shitty game when so many great alternatives exist?
Thats why you will never see tournaments for that new Jojos game or the Dragonball shitgames.
>>318603939
Chosen Undead would be neat. I would also accept Batman.
>>318597342
>Mastered GC controller controls
>find this years later
>realize how much easier it could've been
Why
>>318602452
SC Yoshi>Tekken Yoshi
this is a fact
>>318603939
>PS4
The Good Hunter from Bloodborne or Sir Dan from Medievil
>NX
Bring back Link or just put in some FE character
>Xbone
Fulgore or Spinal from KI
>PC
Gordon Freeman or something
>>318604237
Shouldve just bought it on PS2.
The PS2 pad is perfectly fine for this.
Gamecube was generally shit for fighting games.
I loved 2 and 4, and 5 would have been THE FUCKING GREATEST if they actually gave the game a decent dev cycle and let them flesh out the story mode and add all the characters they wanted.
maybe after Tekken 7...
>>318603939
No more guest characters.
Holy shit people are suffering because their mains dont make it and then they give you garbage like Kratos and Yoda.
>>318592961
>link
Loved that cameo.
Incidentally, how good did Lloyd play in Legends?
>>318603257
Who would you want as guest characters for SCVI if it happens?
I wantChosen Undead or Bearer of the Curse.
>>318604497
Sadly guest characters are probably the only reason the series is staying afloat. You'd be surprised by how many normalfags were interested in Soul Calibur V after I told them Ezio was in it.
>tfw when you mained Talim from SC2
Too many moveset changes.
Then she's not here at all.
She felt so straight forward in SC2.
Probably the only character I can potential master other than Sigfried/Nightmare.
>>318604764
ezio owned. guest characters are a staple of the series and he was the best one they've ever done.
>>318604936
Are you me nigga?
>>318603516
>but too simple/unbalanced to enjoy competitively.
I can't agree with that, I think it's perfect for competitive play and now I'm going to rant about it because I fucking love it
Soul Calibur V's normal combo system is nearly perfect and devoid of extraneous flashy nonsense. Let me explain.
Let's take my main, Leixia, as an example. Most (not all) characters function similar to her for their combos.
Most characters in Soul Calibur have combos that are only two moves--a launcher and a finisher--but can be modified and added onto in different ways. Leixia's bnb combo starter is 3B. After the opponent has been launched into the air, she has a choice of finishers: 3B+K will do the most damage, but 1B has much better oki and essentially forces another mixup between WR A+B and another 3B (which resets the combo). IF you need to finish the opponent off, you use 3B+K. Most of the time, you want 1B for the oki. We're only two moves in and we already have combo depth.
Now if their back is too a wall, you get to extend your combo as a reward for good stage control: you get 3B W! 4A+B W! 6BA. Do you have meter? Good! Now you get to add another move in, and get 3B W! AA BE 3B W! 6BA. Do you have 1.5 bars of meter? Holy fuck, here comes 3B W! AA BE 3B W! 6BA CE (On most characters, fuck you Ivy and Nightmare).
So you can see how your combos are these building blocks where after you score a hit (or even before you hit the button) you have to decide what buttons you're going to hit based on what resources you have and what you want to do, and most importantly, every move in the combo serves a purpose and has a reason to be there other than just making the combo longer.
Astaroth works a similar way. You have 63214B+G 66B (or A+G for oki), but it can be extended with 22B BE, and extended further at the wall with A+G W! 3KA W! etc.
BUT WAIT, you say, THAT'S TOO SIMPLE, I LIKE THE LONG EXTRANEOUS COMBOS
Well then you have Viola.
<c>
I want all anti-guest characters to tell me, to my face, that Vader wasn't fucking awesome. He had an incredibly unique playstyle, and 3d fighting games rarely (if ever) do slow characters properly.
Starkiller was...alright.
Fuck Yoda. Good try, Bamco
>>318605074
This. I really enjoyed playing as Vader, he gets too much hate.
POST FAVOURITE SONGS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cizADbZppec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhqWrwmUdM
I'm still mad they split Nightmare's moveset between Siegfried and Nightmare after II. It's not the same. I always fuck up and use the wrong move trying to do a SC2 move.
>>318603973
wont
japs dont like it as much, there is a reason why normal Pyrrha is rep for her and not omega in lost swords
>>318605074
Honestly I feel like most of Starkiller's moveset on a non-SW character would have been really cool. which is why I liked when Zwei at least sort of did some similar stuff with his sword. Plus he had the Wolf stand thing, and his setups were all really cool.
I also loved the shit out of Zasalamel and Astaroth, but they really fucked up Astaroth in 5, pretty much all the cool shit he used to do required meter all of a sudden and it made him really unfun to play.
>>318605040
What's more, if you think a character like Leixia is too easy to play, you have choices like Viola, Cervantes, and aPatroklos, and you're REWARDED MORE FOR PLAYING MORE DIFFICULT CHARACTERS, because these are three of the best characters in the game, and if you can master their tech skill shit you'll go farther than you would with LX's more simple playstyle. Heck, every character in the game was designed with a clear gameplan in mind and has unique tools compared to other characters. Which is common in fighters, but still nice.
Combine all this with a game where stage control isn't just pushing someone back, but being aware of what reverse options they have, and covering step because you know they don't want their back to the wall and such
And goddamn SCV is my favorite competitive game of all time.
>>318605040
I agree, but I don't like meter in SC. Fuck that noise.
Also, most of what you say is true about Virtua Fighter as well, but VF is better and has more depth. SC is more fun to watch though. Watching VF is like watching paint dry.
>>318604515
>Incidentally, how good did Lloyd play in Legends?
He was busto
>>318605438
What if I just want to press buttons and beat up my friend, and neither of us have any real idea of what we're doing?
>>318604221
I could sorta see Batman happening as Spawn was used surprisingly but he'd need a main weapon.
>>318605074
>>318605195
VADER
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>>318605313
Fuck Starkiller
Fuck Zwei
>>318604976
Ezio was good on account of being the one guest character that actually made sense.
>>318605542
Honestly I've never seriously played VF
If they release another one, I probably will. I know a guy who was into it.
>>318605278
Hell, Omega Pyrrha pretty much exists to have a character that's more like Sophitia than Cassandra.
That's really the big problem with SCV. They pretty much pulled a Street Fighter 3 and replaced a bunch of classic characters with lookalikes, then several of the originals just, like, became radically changed for no reason.
>Kilik suddenly "Edgemaster, but only for male movesets"
>Zasalamel and Talim not even fucking mentioned
>several other characters just become background stories for the new ones because reasons
>>318605601
URYA
>>318605438
>>318605040
Good posts.
I like how SCV is one of those beautifully simple kind of fighting games
>>318605662
>hating Zwei
no nigga fuck you
>>318605237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXotDQjjDE4
Gets me pumped every time.
>>318605601
Then you can do that too, but you don't really need a well designed system for that, you just need flashy moves and cool characters. Which SC has, in my opinion.
Actually, characters are really important to me in a fighting game. I have to really be attached to a character's design to main them. That's the reason why I never really played VF and the only reason I play Tekken (pic related)
But my post was talking about why it's a good competitive game
>>318605669
There's a lot of memeposting on /v/ every time it's mentioned.
Real talk, it's a joy to play. As someone who played SC from the beginning, once I learned how to play VF for real I was hooked. It's like switching from Linux to Windows: it's harder, and takes a lot of work, as well as having it's own share of problems, but the basic systems are beautiful and just make more sense. VF2 is the Street Fighter 3 of 2D fighting games, in that it's perfectly designed on a gameplay standpoint (Not balance though). Every other VF (As well as DOA) have just tried to add to this system, sometimes succeeding, other times failing. If you learn any VF game, learning anothe VF game, or DOA, is easy, but going from DOA to VF is much harder.
>>318605237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS58qk_s9L4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pa-KcpZHrI
>>318605740
it was a rushed game and the modelers where ahead of the programmers and animators
I'd argue about normal Pattycakes and normal Pyrrha, they played differently from Sophie and Cass
honestly they probably wanted all the old character to be as mentor characters that have their own BraveEdges and CriticalEdges or something
I'd also Argue natsu is a little bit different then taki
shes more direct and has less dodgy options
Leixia is has more power then her mother at the cost of less options and speed
xiba is more of a cross of mina and kilik due to his teachers
>>318605948
>But my post was talking about why it's a good competitive game
I know. Sorry for shitting on your post I guess.
>I have to really be attached to a character's design to main them
I agree. But I'll always go for "rule of cool" before usefulness.Which often has me using joke characters like Dan and the like.
>>318605740
>>Kilik suddenly "Edgemaster, but only for male movesets"
To be fair, that makes logical sense for Kilik's character in the story
>>several other characters just become background stories for the new ones because reasons
Because 8 month development time
They planned so much more. It's a shame.
>>318605601
Play Tekken or Soul Calibur. Namco is unmatched when it comes to making fighting games that are fun to button mash in. DOA is fun for this too, especially with 4 people. Most 2D games suck for just fucking around, other than Persona 4 Arena, Mortal Kombat, Injustice, and simple mode on Blazblue.
Avoid Virtua Fighter like the plague.
Did you know Link has a Cheap Grab where if you are near the edge and the enemy is close he would jump over the guys arm and bitchslap them with a twirl of his sword making them fly over the edge causing a Ring out.
I ABUSED this glitch.
>>318606186
I agree that they're different and the game was rushed, but it was still "different, but not enough
>>318606013
Err, switching to linux FROM windows.
I've had too much to drink. lol.
>>318606272
>I agree. But I'll always go for "rule of cool" before usefulness. Which often has me using joke characters like Dan and the like.
I always do this and I almost always main low tier because of it
People in the local FGC think I have some sort of fetish for low tiers but I just have bad luck. Hell when SCV started, LX was top tier but she got nerfed to hellI should clarify that I don't think LX is very cool, but I think her mom is cool as fuck
>>318606415
it isnt a glitch
thats how the throw works, it pushes em behind you
and its pretty easy to tell when fags gonna start doing that so any one with knowledge on how to play would either keep their distance and hit you from there
or duck and punish the throw
>>318606415
>Glitch
>>318606561
xanghua is a slut
>>318606186
>Leixia is has more power then her mother at the cost of less options and speed
Actually I think it's the other way around
SCIV X's AA is slower than LX's AA, and had more damaging combos off of flat ground (thanks in part to her buggy 44AA though)
X still has more options though. I miss SXS.
>>318606689
You're a slut
So she had a love child with her former lover after getting married to someone else ONE TIME, that doesn't mean anything
Shut up
>>318606874
>having sex
slut
>>318606874
Sounds like a whore. You'd better find someone else.
>>318606964
>>318607060
I-It's a tragic love story anons, she's not a slut, it's destiny!All this is irrelevant because I don't see her as a waifu, just like a good friend who guilted me into babysitting her retarded daughter, so if she's getting more dick, more power to her.
Waifu in pic.
>>318607381
>has a child with a no name
even more slutty!
>>318607381
Your waifu has retarded lips and a terribly short sword.
Who ever designed the stages did a fantastic job throughout the series.
If I were given a choice to live in a game world, it'd be this series right here.
>>318607510
>Your waifu has retarded lips
Fighting words, m8
>>318607576
For fuckin' real though
Well, except Soul Blade
>>318607703
I was gonna take this to the next level and start the whole waifu shit up but then i realized that I'm in a fighting game thread and thatyou're probably black.Then it all made sense.
>>318592961
>Brother thinks Yoshimitsu is overpowered and is his go to character when his Link is getting asskicked.
>Slap his shit with pick related
Granted it was usually by pure luck I ended up with something like Cervantes.
>>318608261
whoops forgot the pick.
>>318608163
Nah I'm white as cheap bread
I have thing for chicks in armor and subtle sexuality
>That one EVO where Tira won
I still love it
>>318608721
>Before EVO
Tira is a D tier character
No one will ever actually learn the Viola backthrow infinite
>After EVO
Tira is A-B tier
Ban the Viola infinite. Also fuck you Tokaido.
>>318593427
I want to disagree but goddamn, I agree. Well, if you consider the roster at least.
That being said, Patroklos is fun as hell to play as in V.
>>318596612
I just brush it off with Chris Redfield jokes of Sieg punching rocks, but he's not bad.
YOU PLANNED THIS always makes me laugh though.
>>318608996
>Patroklos is fun as hell to play as in V.
>1K would kill them
>Use 1K
I WIN
>Regardless of whether or not it hits
I love this smug retard and I hope they never remove him
>>318598649
>Not solving your problems with Bullrush
Filthy maggots, I tell you.
>>318609139
FEAR MY SKILLZ makes me smile whenever I land the goddamn move in a combo.
Also, A-Pat, while my friend and I are a bit ass playing as him, he's still fun. His English voice and the way Lowenthal yells out the Japanese attacks we make jokes of, such as that A+G throw being misheard as YOU'RE A PUSSY, and JF Twister being SOME GAY.
I was interested in the series since 2because of Link,but I never got into it because I was a poorfag growing up and that meant no buying video games for no reason, but I've always wanted to get into it. 5 was my first SC game and I loved playing it.I still don't own it.
Should I seek out the other games in the series?
>>318609139
>>318609332
>>318608996
I honestly hope they retcon SCV story
mainly to keep smug pat and moe pyrrha
>>318609485
try to get used to 5
>>318609530
I hope they retcon SCV personally.
>>318609485
SCV is easily the best mechanics in the series, and will likely be the closest to SCVI. Stick with it for now
If you really like the story, the others are worth checking out, particularly SCIII (but beware of memory-card erasing glitch)
>>318592961
Fucking Link was OP as shit.
That arm flip grab... wew lad
>>318603549
I have the inverse. I've sort of forgotten how to GI/Repel after playing so much of SCV.
I still beat stuff last time I tried SCII though.
>>318606013
Learning VF is pretty addictive, I agree. Felt the same way when I got to try out 4E's long-ass tutorial mode, after not playing VF when hard mode AI Lau gave me nightmares as a child, and I was amazed and a bit confused with how everything worked. Years later I still play 5FS against people from time to time and learn shit like Taka squat shenanigans and various ways to land El Blaze's HOT DOG.
>>318609485
5 ain't a bad place to start with.
>>318610640
>5 ain't a bad place to start with.
If you don't mind shitty characters and nothing to do when the online goes dead.
>>318610738
I'm a bit curious. How's 2HD's online doing?
Only played 2 on GC & fucking loved it, weapon master was awesome (except the labyrinths).Cervantes master race
>Soul Blade/Edge
Lots of stupid shit but was overall a pretty good game, a nice start to the series.
>Soul Calibur
Fantastic game, fixed many of the problems with the first game and refined and expanded on many mechanics, looked absolutely amazing for its time.
>Soul Calibur 2
Horribly dumbed down version of SC1, focus on a "wider audience" gameplay depth was removed in favor of adding guest characters as a selling point, many bugs such as Gstep and 2G make this already painfully slow game even worse.
>Soul Calibur 3
HORRIBLE game received zero testing has even more bugs than SC2, completely unplayable mess. the Arcade Edition fixes most of these bugs and adds new characters.
>Soul Calibur 4
Fixed various problems with the series but added a retarded physics engine that had no place in a fighting game, this led to many infinite juggles and instant ring out combos.
>Soul Calibur 5
By far the best game in the series, goes back to its SC1 roots, ads depth and solid mechanics over stupid minigames, expands on many of the original mechanics, overall a great game.
>>318610204
No he wasn't he was the worst character in the game.
Soul Calibur is the only true fighting game I ever enjoyed. Played the absolute shit out of it. I had one of those terrible 3rd party controllers with the macro button and I would program Ivy's giant combo into it
>all these linkfags in the thread
who spawnfag here
>>318608378
Charade was the best "random" character, I really hated in SC5 that we had 3 random characters
>>318613175
I was a Spawn fan growing up but I never got to play him since I never had an Xbox
>>318613247
>Kilik became a random clone character (for males) for some reason
>Elysium is Sophitia's body (model wise) as a random female clone character
>Edgemaster back as an everyone clone character
>>318613756
>Kilik became a random clone character (for males) for some reason
To be fair it makes perfect sense for his character arc
Love SC. I really enjoyed delving into SCV. But understand that it's lack of worthwhile single player content and omitting/replacing some fan favorite characters really soured the game for people who might not be into playing competitively.
>>318612829
the dumb thing though is that SC V was clearly rushed.
It tried too hard to have a story mode, but then again it didn't try hard enough because it was basically Patroklos mode, all of the other new characters are pretty much just background accessories and the cutscenes are all sketches.
>ZWEI is a mysterious character
>well fuck you, you learned nothing about him
>Viola is a mysterious character who is uncannily close to Amy in appearance
>wel fuck you you learned nothing about her
>Alpha Patrokolos uses a katana and Setsuka's moveset for some reason when he was told it was his 'true' style
>oh wait it turns out Setsuka trained Patrokolos in the past except we never knew this because it was never stated anywhere in-game
>>318614280
>story mode
Point and laugh, point and laugh at the casual faggot.
>>318614527
except the story mode in SC5 was touted as some kind of big thing.
I'd rather not have a story mode at all instead of this half-assed shit and have a weapon master mode.
>>318614632
It was supposed to be fucking huge, have you seen the artbook?
But Scamco decided FUCK SC TEKKEN FO LIFE and gave it less than a year development time, plus an earthquake happened so we got Pat mode
I was really hoping for a SUPER SOUL CALIBUR V with a proper story mode and returning characters
At least they focused on the gameplay, and that's fantastic.
>>318592961
>>318592961
So we can all agree that SC6 Needs SC4 character rooster with SC5 fighintg mechanics?
>>318614128
>single player
>fighting game
>>318615136
No, because I want Smugtroklos and Oprah back
Other than that, sounds good.
>>318615136
As long as Algol is back i dont care who else is in it.
>>318612829
>goes back to its SC1 roots
>No proper edgemaster mode
>No single player content
>Meter
>Shitty new characters
>Muh online
yeah you and your fucking chart can go right to hell you faggot
>>318615935
This is bait
>>318615139
>>318614527
>Mommy look how badass and what an athlete I am.
Ugh. fucking FGC ruined the whole damn genre
>>318615269
>Smugtroklos and Oprah back
both cant exist
only pre SCV or Post
>>318614906
>It was supposed to be fucking huge, have you seen the artbook?
Who cares, no one buys fighting game for singleplayer
>>318616102
Man it ain't even FGC
Fighting games at their root are meant to be played against another person. Everything else is a substitute for when you don't have someone to play with.
I dunno if you're young or something and didn't have Super Turbo growing up or what
>>318616102
Point and laugh, point and laugh at the underage butthut casual baby.
>>318616214
Would have been cool as fuck though, and I happen to like SC's story modes
I'm also top 5 in my state at it so fuck off if you're going to call me a scrub or some shit
>>318616034
How? You just tried to claim it went back to its roots but it has fuck all to do with anything that made the original SC, SC.
It was a rushed out pile of garbage that didn't have ANYTHING the series was known for. So tell me how it went back to it's fucking roots.
>>318615136
>tfw your waifu will never return
>>318616376
Dont waste your time. Its the tierlist shitposter that plagues most fighting game threads.
>>318616376
Either your retarded or underage and have never actually played SB/SC1.
>>318616240
You do realize a game can be played by SINGLE and MULTI player. In fact a good game should strive for both. Because sooner or later you're gonna run out of online nobodies to play with.
I wonder if the only reason you're so hard for online play is because YOU never got to play SF2 with an actual friend.
>>318616336
Point and laugh, point and laugh at the underage but hurt hardcore baby who always got picked last for kick ball
>>318616535
>and have never actually played SB/SC1.
Let's see SB/SC1 had
>Weapon master/Edgemaster mode
>Single player content
>No meter
>Cool characters
Im beginning to wonder if YOU actually played the first couple of games
>>318616436
God bless Oh! Great!
>>318616376
This is what singleplayer casual babies ACTUALLY believe.
oh no the samefagging is starting
Why was the first game called Soul Edge and then every other one is Soul Calibur? Also why is it called Soul Calibur if the first 3 games are primarily focused on Soul Edge?
>>318616669
>Single player
>>318616818
>Hard core athletes just posting image macros
>don't actually ever refute any of the claims
total badasses
>>318616571
>You do realize a game can be played by SINGLE and MULTI player. In fact a good game should strive for both. Because sooner or later you're gonna run out of online nobodies to play with.
>I wonder if the only reason you're so hard for online play is because YOU never got to play SF2 with an actual friend.
>Online
Nigger what
I hate online. Gives me bad habits.
Single player modes are nice but they're tacked on secondary modes in this genre, like multiplayer in Metroid Prime or something. The entire idea behind the genre is MAKE THESE TWO DUDES FIGHT.
If you want a full single player mode just go play an action game or a beat-em-up.
I have zero beef with single player modes. I loved CotS, but that is not the focus of the genre.
>>318616893
Because Soul Calibur doesn't exist in SB/SE, and it's a major plot point in SC1, and then SC1 was way more popular than SE/SB ever was so they expanded from there.
>SCVI brings back weapon breaks and barehanded styles
Post your face when
>>318616980
The casual asspain is real
>>318607381
>Hildegard
My nigga
>>318617060
There's no reason they can't even fucking have arcade mode endings.
I mean jesus christ how hard is it to throw a bit of flavor text over some art. Im not asking for fucking planescape goddamn torment.
Really your over estimating how much work these modes take to create once the base engine is done.
>>318617225
I just hope they bring back the old characters. Too old to be a magic ninja my left foot.
>>318617490
Are you not reading my posts or something
I'm not saying anything about how much work they take, I'm talking about how secondary they are. They're nice but they're extra spice.
>>318617357
>Hardcore players gets called out for not actually discussing things and only posting reaction pics
>Posts a reaction pic
>>318615935
Soul Edge had Meter
Soul Edge had no single player shit originally
Evey Character in Soul Edge was new
You are an underage casual who has never played the game.
SC3's Chronicles of the Sword was the best, to me.
Best game, best creator.
>>318613940
and what was that? I really didnt get why he was even there from the lack of story in 5
>>318617652
>Soul Edge had Meter
A block meter. Very different than what V has
>Soul Edge had no single player shit originally
In the arcade. As soon as it got the home port it got fucking Edge Master mode
>Evey Character in Soul Edge was new
and where cool. The new characters in V suck out loud.
>You are an underage casual who has never played the game.
Really, if your whole argument is NUH UH YOU DIDN'T PLAY it then it's pretty clear that YOU'RE the one who didn't play it
>>318593743
Natsu>Taki
Pyrrah>Sophitia
Leixia>Xianghua
The new cast was way better, the story was just shit.
