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How can people actually enjoy this game
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There are two groups, OP.

People who played CS back in the day and refuse to move onto better things.

People who have started playing it recently and tell themselves it's good because "DUDE IT'S COUNTER STRIKE, COUNTER STRIKE. I'M A PRO GAMER FOR PLAYING IT"
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Did somebody say ice cream?
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None of us actually enjoy it. We just can't let go of the past.
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>>318432505
>>318432829
(You)
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>>318432505
i wanted to play with a knife
cant throw it and everybody tryhard instagibs you with AK47/AWP
shits even worse fun than CoD, you literally get punished for trying to HF outside meta
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Because it's a cheap popular arcade shooter with a high skill ceiling.

Most people just don't want to spend 50gold for a multiplayer only game. Not that there are any impressive multiplayer games, I don't even know of a single one I even want to try out.
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i uninstalled, got bored of it
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>>318432829
This is true. It isn't very fun.
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>>318432505

name a good multiplayer fps then? because according to /v/ they're all shit
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>>318433382
Did I call it shit?
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>>318433382
Tf2. I know, I know, it's super popular so it's bad.
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>>318432971
CS was good in the day, anon. It's just a husk now. Bad community, skin crap, out dated graphics, barely active development.
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>>318432505
Because taste is subjective.
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>>318432505
It's okay in small doses. The community is absolute shit though. Full of shitty fuckin' Twitch self promoters and little kids.
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>>318433575
Also, a lot of people now only play the game so they can make money off selling dumb shit to stupid kids
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post your ranks lads
>tfw LE scrub
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Did the game get suddenly popular? Because I'm seeing the usual cowadooty you tubers start uploading this
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>>318432505
same way people enjoy your mom.
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>>318433962
Kill yourself
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>>318433971
Big tournament just ended so all the kids are using it as flavor of the week again
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It's fun
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>>318432829
Then there's the group that never got sucked into CS because there have always been better shooters around, and wonders why people fight about it so much.
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>>318433962
lem using only ump and jumping around, treating competitive like deathmatch makes it easy
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>>318433971
Probably this >>318434098 plus the sale.
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>>318433575
CSGO is objectively better than 1.6

Get fucked retard
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>>318434269
>better shooters around
>gives no examples
Every fucking time.
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I find it funny this game was dead for a long time, then suddenly got popular because they added skins and crates to peek the interest of retards.
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>>318434269
To be honest I can't think of a better game that CS in it's category.
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>>318432505
The new game Rainbow game shits on it in terms of tactical arcade gameplay.
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>Throw it up for a round or two of casual with chat disabled
it's just some good ol casual fun for me
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>>318434553
It was only really dead around release. By the time the skins and shit came around the game had gotten fairly popular.
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>>318434710
>tfw my greatest CS:GO moment was in casual

Man. All those hours and the one time I play casual I do something(by my shitty standards) fancy.
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>>318434710
this 2bh.

Although I leave voice and chat on cause some people that play this game are fucking crazy.

There was some 50 year old military vet with a souvenir dragon lore wrecking everyone and his shit talk on the mic was amazing.
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>>318434391
Back in the day there was a wealth of superior tactical shooters like Rainbow Six, and not just arena shooters with made up guns. There were more arcadey shooters like Action Quake 2, there was Enemy Territory, soon shooters with a pace similar to CS like True Combat: Elite. CS is just an unremarkable game with a weird recoil system. Today Insurgency is probably a better game all around, or even Call of Duty.

There were plenty of other Half-Life mods like The Specialists, or just regular Half-Life deathmatch which was chaotic as hell. CS overshadowed a lot of better mods.

Not to mention that Source and GO are pretty much the same game. Well GO at least added molotov. Competitive players bitch about minutiae in how they work, they also bitched about the changes leading up to 1.6 like how bhop got nerfed over time. I think they just like to bitch.
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>>318432505
because there is no better games around, and i have around 20 friends playing it.
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>>318435238
Man. All I get in my region and Russians and try-hard Swedes.
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>>318435238
>>318434710
gonna say this, casual modes were the most mind numbingly boring things i've played, even with chat and voice disabled they're still boring as hell, don't know how any of you could stand them

the only thing that was remotely interesting was competitive, just play that to waste a good 40 minutes before class or just burn time in general and i was good

to each his own i guess
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>>318432829
It's true. Playing since 1.5. Still fun for some fucking reason.
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>>318435418
>I think they just like to bitch.
Is there any competitive community who don't?

I still haven't been able to find a 5v5 style game that captures the same feelings as CS does.
At least not one that is actually played.

I would love to see some more games like it but there just isn't any that are better. The only shooter I've played in years that have come close have been Insurgency but that plays almost nothing like CS.

>Not to mention that Source and GO are pretty much the same game.
They really aren't. There's a reason everyone except the "casuals" skipped over it.
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>>318433962
>tfw stuck in DMG hell
fuck Russians and fuck playing at 5AM GMT, it makes playing with Russians a 100% chance rather than the slimmer chance it would be in the morning.

Also, for the past week I've been using Idlemaster to save up for a good AK skin, just bought a Wasteland Rebel using only 4 euros of my actual money.
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>>318433382
quake live
any other fps is trash
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>>318433382
quake

live
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do I buy it or do I buy borderlands
I never played borderlands, familia
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>tfw got to LE using only the Nova, Auto shotty and zeus
>tfw just won 4 games in a row using only shotty/zeus and may rank up to LEM soon

S A V A G E
A
V
A
G
E
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>>318436506
do not
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>>318436226
>>318436337
Point n click trash, and now they are charging $10 for a free game LOL
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>>318436521
>S A V A G E
>A
>V
>A
>G
>E
reddit tier
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>>318432505
Generally people with lower IQ get to enjoy more things. Also it has a decent e-sport scene so it's pretty popular.
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>>318436521
Wait, they now include the Zeus in competitive?
What the fuck valve?
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>>318437153
>What the fuck valve?
they're retards
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>>318437060
yeah people who enjoy things are stupid fucks
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>>318437369
yeah people who enjoy stupid things are stupid fucks
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>>318436810
srry this is my secondday on /v/ i mgirated from r/games
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I bought it because I wanted an online shooter, and /v/ said that Battlefield, CoD, and TF2 weren't fun and were stupid, so I tried the supposedly best one.

/v/ was wrong.
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>>318432829
I haven't really played either until recently.
Old cs got boring after like 4 hours, cs go got boring after 1, luckily you can return games now.
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>>318437685
Go back
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You know what would make CS better? Ironsights that just jump along the recoil path and sway/hand jitter in your RNG range, they don't zoom, increase weapon accuracy or reduce move speed.
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>>318437774
Refund it like I did.
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>>318432505

No one does. CS:GO is like a prison. You can't leave unless they let you.
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>>318432505
I enjoy it
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>Mfw playing this with 4 mates and we're all MG2/MG Elite which is good enough to not be TOTAL shitters and still not high enough to be tryhards about it

It's the golden ranks to be at
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>>318438082
no i like it here ;') love memes!
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>>318432505
It's a game that inhabits the same mechanics of its predecessors
the original CS and CS Source


TL;DR
People love it because of how it plays and requires you to learn in order to not suck balls otherwise it is pointless to play and of course wasting money on skins.


And because it's more of a skill based game and is played on a competitive level also plays a huge role in esports tournament scene graphics never really mattered.now 16 years later there are still professional tournaments on the original cs with huge prizes.

After the release of CS Source in 2004 the game and franchise slowly kinda got overshadowed by rising popularity of CoD thanks to modern warfare.

And now after the release of CS:GO it still wasnt so huge in the begining but it has risen and is becoming more popular thanks to esports and of course the ingame cosmetics known as skins whitch kinda boggles me how adding a reason to invest more money into the game and creating a vast economy made CS:GO rise to popularity and trend....

But I still enjoy the original cs because I have been playing it since childhood and will continue to play even though I have already clogged in +30,000 hours into it
And no I am not russian or polish so don't even think about it

>inb4 what an autistic fag who can't let go of the past
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>>318438810
fuck you
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>playing cs when tf2 exists

why?
tf2 has more variety, takes more skill, is faster and more fun.
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cs is only fun when you are at that local server in your hardware school
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>>318439264
>playing tf2 when tfc exists

why?
tfc has more variety, takes more skill, is faster and more fun.
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>>318439264
I play both and both are pretty good but for me cs is better only because I have been playing longer
but at a sertain point it all boils down to the same
Hurr-Durr wasting money on hats
Hurr-Durr wasting money on knife skins
Hurr-Durr cs;go ripped off tf2 for including cosmetics
Hurr-Durr tf2 ripped off cs:go for including skins
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>>318439264
cs is more "casual" because it's edgy
it's more likely that your normie friends will start playing with you
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>>318439264
>takes more skill
Why do people consider this a positive when shooting games dont take any skill at all to do decent in when you first start out?
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>>318432829
I'm in the latter group and I agree with the rose colored glasses 1.6 crowd. The game's shit. Still fun to do a 5 stack deagles only, though.

Also I get a message saying that I'm blocking VAC if I play on Windows now. I've tried every possible solution and the only one that works is playing on Linux.
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It's no fun playing it with no friends, if you had friends then you might enjoy it. Quite fun starting a small server and beating your friends at 3v3s or 5v5s. If you had a nice big local community of nice players then it would be really fun.
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>>318439264
I play TF2 when Im in the mood for some feel good goofy casual-ish FPS action, which is quite often. I fucking love TF2

I play CSGO when I wanna play comp since casual mode on CSGO is super boring. Don't be fooled however, I basically treat comp as casual/deathmatch and only use shotguns/knives/Deagle/zeus and I just got to LEM. It pisses the other team off when I ace them with a fucking autoshotty and especially my team when we're supposed to be saving but I buy armor, nova, zeus every fucking round.
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>>318440062
>shooting games dont take any skill at all to do decent in when you first start out
Not sure what games you're playing but that definitely doesn't apply to Quake
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>>318434553
It was only "dead" because Turtle Rock/Hidden Path managed to fuck up literally everything that CS 1.6 did well. Seriously, look up some CSGO beta gameplay. Pistols were ridiculously OP, movement was imprecise as fuck, and worst of all, they tried bringing Office and all the other hostage rescue maps back into the competitive rotation, as though ANYONE took them seriously.
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>>318440062
>hooting games dont take any skill at all to do decent in when you first start out
That's only true for casual games.

Having skill is basically like having a COD style progression system, but it's base on actual merit and not how many hours you've sat there and grinded while watching movies on netflix.
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>>318440062
Pretty much every remotely popular multiplayer game these days has enough depth that a skilled player/team can stomp all over a new player. The difference is that the most popular games have a large player base and some basic form of skill-based matchmaking.

Even before matchmaking, public severs have merely average players, on average. In fact below average if we're talking CS or other games where most of the skilled players did pickups on private servers.
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>>318440660
>and I just got to LEM
You think that's hard or something? Since the ban wave LEM is only 2 ranks above default rank.
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Dirty bomb would have been awesome if it was just completely f2p with skins. Goddam why did they do a league of legends pay model, fuck that game
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>>318432829

I played CS back around 2000~. CS:S was ok for a while I guess. Isn't GO the same game as 15 years ago?
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>>318440967
Arena shooters like quake are the exception but as long as you're not playing against above good people, you should do okay, unless you suck at fps games in general.
Honestly, in my opinion people that say cs/bf/team fortress even quake to a lesser degree say the games take a lot of skill are just people that suck at games in the first place.
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ITT casuals

Counter Strike is the last good FPS multipllayer shooter

only fat weebs and americans dont like CS
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>>318441902
>RNG corner peaking simulator is the only good FPS
>not taking Quake or UT into account
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>>318442110
>RNG

Cant handle recoil you fucking babby?

your post is trash
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>>318432505
Because it's fun?
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>>318442238
>random spread is the same thing as recoil

in CS, it's possible to hit your target when you're not aiming at them, and possible to miss when you are aiming at them

in Quake or UT, if you are aiming at the enemy, you will hit them

apparently this means CS takes more aiming skillz
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>>318433083
>high skill ceiling
lol
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>>318442434
shut the fuck up retard

holy fuck retards like this make my blood boil jesus christ, im fucking out of this thread before i break something

fuck you
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>>318432505
Casuals enjoy mindless FPS's death matches in small maps with no actual goals.

See
COD
fallout 4
ect
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>>318437774
TF2 is still better and is also free
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>>318438713
agreed. the community at LEM and DMG were shit and that's why i quit. people only called each other autistic (and was misused at that) and weren't much better than tryhards in casual.

RIP days of good teamwork in online games.
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>>318439507
nah
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>>318442525
Did that guy ever release a full table of guns/range probability to hit the head with perfectly centered aim?
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>>318442652
in the off chance you aren't falseflagging or baiting, I implore you to actually tell me why I'm wrong

No game deserves to be called competitive when a random number generator decides how well you will do. Aiming at the enemy and missing is a joke, not aiming at the enemy and hitting with something other than a splash weapon is also a joke. CS is for children, and it's beyond me how you enjoy taking 2 minutes to peak one corner and then die to RNG recoil
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>>318442652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SWMAQYQf0
>literally you
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Dirty bomb is a better game
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>>318442889
you have LITERALLY no fucking idea what your talking about and your just embarrassing yourself
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>there are people who don't play CS for the mods/custom servers
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>>318442889
So wait you just want to hold left click and expect al lthe bullets to follow your crosshait perfectly?

TOP FUCKING KEK

back to COD with you shitter
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>>318432505
Because it's fun to twirl Factory New StatTrakâ„¢ butterfly knives around


Matchmaking is actually kind of fun when you're alright at the game.

I'm DMG and happy with my 'skill level'
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>>318442835
Not to my knowledge.

>>318443116
>>318441902
>>318442238
>>318442652
>>318443316
How autistic are you?
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>despite releasing 8 YEARS after its predecessor, it added NOTHING to the series other than two shitty gamemodes nobody plays, fire grenades, and a small handful of weapons
>missing features now considered standard in tactical FPSes like prone and lean because MUH PURITY
>most pitiful modding scene of the 3 major CS games despite having the largest playerbase by far; if it weren't for maps ported over from CS:S it would have practically no mod community at all
>target audience is normies and Twitch players giving it possibly the most cancerous playerbase of all time
>competitive ladder for e-sports wannabes
>all non-competitive matchmaking is Casual Mode
>the fact that Casual Mode exists at all
>ricer skins
>Valve throwing out maps when operations end

CS:GO is a fucking disgrace, the only people who like it are just too obsessed with their MLG rank to quit and have fun with games instead.
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Because I play with friends.
Even if I didn't it's not hard to see why it's popular, it's a demanding game (no, your webm of an AK missing one bullet in a million won't change this)
With lots of room for actual strategy.
But there's a part which is overlooked about CS which is how it distinguishes itself from other games, it is played in short bits. You're frequently given small "breaks" between rounds, when you die, etc. Rounds can go very slow, and then suddenly burst out in an instant of flashes, hailfire of bullets and grenades. It's almost like a thriller in the way it builds up.

Pulling off a clutch 1vX and saving the round honestly has little comparison to any other game.
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>>318443541
>posting a bait Webm

Pathetic.

ok lad, lets just ignorethe fact that your webm ia a demo replay and not ingame footage
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>>318432829
>better things

I bet you think a criticism of an FPS is a lack of ADS.
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>>318438395
Just like /v/ or 4chan in general.

except you're here forever.
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>>318443601
>wants fucking prone and leaning in counterstrike
god damn you're dumb
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>>318443620
>No other game has round based gameplay
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>>318443620
being the last guy alive was almost scary in 1.6 sometimes

>creeping around every corner
>listening for any sound from any direction
>everyone is watching
>you are all alone
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>>318443620
>tfw clutching a 1v3 or 1v4 and defusing
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>>318443787
>wants more mechanics in a video game
lol wat a fag
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>>318443541
hurrrrrr this bugged replay proves the RNG recoil

kill yourself my man
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I saw it top the steam stats at one point. Had above 600k players and surpassed dota 2 at that time. Fuck me CS GO got popular.
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>>318443743
>>318443930
>Can't prove that it wasn't a spectator in a lobby
>muh tickrate
no
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>>318443917
Having features for the sake of having them is dumb. Why not add a fucking sprint button or jetpack while you're at it?
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>>318443787

>MUH
>PURITY
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>>318444024
>implying you can see the model wireframe in spectator mode

keep digging your hole
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>>318444036

>implying CS with jetpacks wouldn't be fucking cool
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>>318443601
Prone and lean are garbage features that add nothing to non-simulation shooters.
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>>318434932
http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=730&from=1345240200000&to=1448924400000
it was slowly expanding over the course of a year after an absurdly botched launch, then jumped by 50% when skins and a tournament was announced, and has repeated this pattern every 3-4 months. it wasn't even popular among people who played cs, for reference both 1.6 and source outnumbered it until skins. csgo as a game flopped, everyone agreed it was and still is shit.
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>>318444180
I'll let you doubt the first webm.
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>>318444024

Is this your webm or did you just save it from /v/ or elsewhere?
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>>318432505
I like the gunplay and movement mechanics, the light tactical/strategy elements, the economy mechanics. I think it's a really fun, competitive shooter that isn't braindead in terms of gunplay or strategy, and has mechanics that reward skill and self-control, and also smart decisionmaking as a team, round to round.
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>>318444036
for those, the level design and other things would also need to be upgraded to properly accommodate them

but really faggot, do you think CS is literally perfect? there are plenty of additions that could be done for an actual sequel, as opposed to the half-assed HD skin market remakes valve keeps funding
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>>318444445
2 close
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oh boy a csgo thread am I in time for the webms????

looks like it
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>>318444325
bigger distance to wall = bigger bullet spread

stand closer to the wall and every bullet will hit dead center

is this too hard to understand for your pathetic brain?
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>>318434553
It's updated very regularly and in sognificant ways, I'm not a fan of the skin shit either, but it has no effect on gameplay, and if that's the money that allowed them to mae updates like the improves hitboxes, then I'm all for it.
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>>318444445
But the features you suggested are fucking garbage.

Prone and leaning adds nothing, it decreases risk/reward to pretty much zilch.

>lie prone in some awkward off angle with nothing but a tiny gun barrel pointing out
>looking around a fucking wall without having to expose myself and getting ez shots on the people that has to push

What the fuck does that add? Nothing. It's pointless fluff which only detracts from the game.
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Pseudorandom bulletspray =/= low skill ceiling you fucking idiots.
If the game had a low skill ceiling there wouldn't be so many tards raging on /v/ about how the bulletspray is "bullshit". They'd all be doing great, because it has a low skill ceiling, right guise??!?!?!?
The bulletspray is meant to be large but consistent, and only slightly random so you have to think farther than just "point and click on this guy's head, rinse, repeat", but of course none of the simple-minded NEETs here have the mental capacity to understand that.

Honestly the way /v/ acts towards CS:GO literally proves it's full of scrubs who can't play a game that actually takes an ounce of skill, and would rather play their Japanese dating simulators instead.
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>>318444801

Yet other games make it work

Yet it can't be in CS, nooooo, because of Valve apologists like you
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>>318444674
>hurrr every game should just be quake
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Why can't we ever have a fucking counterstrike threads without people who pretend to play quake coming in and trying to wave their dick about how much better their dead arena shooter is compared to the current tactical team shooter.
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>>318444674
>it's old and posted here a lot so it must be true!
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>>318439264
TF2 takes more skill? In what way? Rocket jumping is a mechanic that CS cannot compare to, but the reason I stopped playing TF2 was because it's a point n' click adventure with very few mechanics when it comes to the actual shooting and killing people bit
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>>318443917
He wants more mechanics that remove the depth of the game. Prone in CS would devolve into a shitty gimmick feature that either no one would use or everyone would abuse. The game isn't supposed to feel like CoD. Hell, prone has never even been in Source games anyway.
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people enjoy the game because they dont suck as bad as you
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>pretend to play Quake
>pretend to play CS
>post bugged replays as proof

Pathetic.
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>>318444674
>Let's make all the guns hitscan.

Maybe they did that because it's tactical shooter?

>Let's make spread go up the faster you move

Maybe they did that because it's tactical shooter?

>Buy stuff instead

Maybe they did that because they wanted an economy system in the game?

>Let's make it round based

Maybe they had to do that to support the the way the gamemodes work?

Whole damned image is just "WHY ISNT IT QUAKE WHY ISNT IT QUAKE WHY ISNT IT QUAKE WAAAAAAAH"
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>>318443061
Blue Streak > Dirty Bomb.
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>>318443541
what tickrate was that demo?
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>>318442434
Possible, maybe, but I'm sure you're aware that it's extremely unlikely. The recoil isn't RNG either, it's a pattern to master unless you want to get absolutely buttfucked by any remotely competent player.
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>>318445018
the point is that cs has a lower skill ceiling than quake and aq2, the game it came from. just as 1.5 has a lower one than <1.3, 1.6 than 1.5, cs:s/go even lower than 1.6.
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>>318443316
>So wait you just want to hold left click and expect al lthe bullets to follow your crosshait perfectly?

That's reasonable in a game that is about shooting. I should hit my target if I do aim for him.
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>>318442889
The reason cs is better because its a combination of movement and aiming coordination. Too bad csgo has the worst movement, hit boxes, and spray pattern.
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>>318445568

He probably doesn't even know what tickrate means

He does this in every thread, just tell him to fuck off and get good, he hates that
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why play CS when Insurgency is 100 times better.
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I didn't really start getting into it until around 50 hours when I kind of knew what was going on.

Got my friend playing it though, definitely a lot more fun when you've got someone to play it with instead of going in solo.

Hit me up later Scherbs
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>>318445768
Than just go play a CoD game, 90% of the guns have 0 recoil.
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>>318441550
Fuck off fag. I'm not trying to say I'm godly at the game but getting to the fucking 3rd highest rank definetly means I'm slightly above average, even if just statistically.

The whole point was that I got there only using shotguns just for fun, nowhere did I make a claim that it is fucking difficult and I'm great at the game. nice strawman ;')
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>>318445768
This post is literally NEO /v/
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There is only ONE single FPS game that will ever be better than CS at what CS tries to do
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>>318445970
>implying CoD is a bad game
Grow up.
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>>318442889
If someone can take a guess and corner peek you, you're bad and need to change your positioning. It's not random unless you're running and gunning, which is, of course, stupid, and will never, ever work unless you're playing against absolute shitters. The recoil of guns have set patterns, and a good player will know where the next bullet will go because they understand this. If you don't like those mechanics, that's cool, but advertising your opinion as an objective measure of a skill ceiling is just shitposting.
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>>318444638
RNG
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>>318443541
Demos are 16 or 32 tick IIRC, you're not making a very good point of proving anything other than your own ignorance.
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>1.6
>cs_747
>tactical shields
>no forced dank memes

>GO
>no cs_747
>no tactical shields
>full of forced dank memes

I think it's clear who the winner is here.
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700 hours in, SMFC, and I'm still not enjoying the game.

You might think that's bullshit because of the time invested, but I swear that I've only spent so much time on it because I'm hoping the game gets more fun the more competitive it is.

I want it to be as fun as MW2 was for me ~6 years ago but I guess it's not happening.
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>>318445721
Counter strike didn't come from Quake you retard.

I'm sure you think Quake is the holy cradle of life for all FPSes in existence
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how long did /v/ hate cs?
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>>318441701
There are weapon skins and ranks now. That's about it. The ranks mean nothing significant, since anyone can be carried and anyone can have silver moments.
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>>318442889
>mfw Poe's law

Are you joking or are you fucking retarded? Have you ever played the game? Yes, there are spray patterns. Yes, there is a shitton of recoil. You fight against it and you can land any fucking shot you want. Most of the complaints or webms that are posted are due to Valve's servers being fucking garbage rather than RNG affecting somebodies aim, unless that person is fucking garbage at the game and is trying to spray down somebody with a Negev by aiming at their head instead of their feet.
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>>318445721
the point is that cs has a lower skill ceiling than quake and aq2, the game it came from

LITERAL WUT?
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>>318446495
Quake gave life to Half-Life which gave life to Counter-Strike. Learn to video game history.
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>>318432505
because you wont back up your opinion
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>>318446306
git gud
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>>318444024
Check the net graph, you silly goose. It is a replay.
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>>318446467
it gets less fun the better you are, as all multiplayer FPS games do other than simulation

Games that get more fun as you get better:
everything else
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>>318446151
Do people still play this Anon? I wanted to get it years ago but always put it off until now.
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>high skill ceiling so you can play literally forever and never hit it
>you can do full team strategy a lot easier to succesfully coordinate than a moba
>unlike mobas you can actually single handedly carry your team if you're good enough
>pubstomping is good fun but ranked competitive stomping equal ranked is even better
>it's so easy to get killed that when you get a killstreak it actually feels meaningful rather than playing some gay spot in cod and getting 10+ kills easily
>been playing it for over 10 years and there is nothing better


i'm so glad skins saved counterstrike

arena shooters are dead so don't go that route
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>>318446612
>Quake did not give life to Counter-Strike, only to previous games

glad we agree

>>318446517
ever since it became popular
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>>318446748
Theres a small but pretty dedicated community, and people tend to buy it when it goes on sale like CSGO and there will be a small spike

On the bright side i've never seen anyone get upset on a pub server in DoD:S so the small community isnt horrible
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>>318432505
git gud
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>>318446589
>>318446495
the modders who made cs came from action quake 2. cs was supposed to a tacticool successor to aq2 and was even quite fast until the later valve patches. you probably don't know this because you weren't born when this happened
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>>318445903
You don't really think they occupy anything close to the same niche, do you? I enjoy both, but this is just a silly post.

Why play Insurgency when Katamari Damacy is 100 times better? Durrrr
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>mfw playing valve deathmatch and going 45:6 with the awp vs literal silvers/novas
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>>318444674
working the economy is half of the game and added infinitely more strategic depth than timing powerups
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Just started playing comp and I've won my last 3 games getting 20+ kills.

Shit's easy yo.
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>>318446306
It is a set, cone-based pattern that is the same every time. Not RNG my friend
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the game is fun stop trying to fit in
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>tfw coulnd never get into CS
>but used to play HL1 Multiplayers player to death back then
I miss that nuclear shelter map, where you can use Tau cannon to propel you off the map and dodge the Nuke when some faggot push the button
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>only play surfing, bhopping and zombie maps
>2785h on record

i think i need help
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>1v1
>both have the same weapon
>both run same direction and their aim is on enemy head
>both fire
>one misses and the other headshots
>somehow not RNG
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>>318434391
Just about anything. Dudebro shooter #34092 is more enjoyable than CS
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>there are people that still think spray patterns are random
>there are still people that think CS isn't the highest skill ceiling competitive game being played right now
>there are still people that fall for these shitposting b8 threads every day
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>>318447531
No, i think you need to teach most CS shitters that the game is actually >fun and not just about comp
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>>318446857
>ever since it became popular
4chan didn't exist in 2000.
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>>318447242
first shot inaccuracy is rng
running pistol accuracy is arguably rng but not really
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>>318447556
>shooting while running

at least try
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>>318447556
Every game is random if the two players just play like retards without understanding the mechanics.
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>>318446857
>glad we agree
cs has more or less direct lineage with aq2, a quake 2 mod.
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>>318447629
name a single fps that is better than cs:go. seriously no one ever posts a real answer to this question

fite me faggggot
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>>318447734
both did the same thing and 1 missed because of RNG
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>>318432505
been playing for so long that it would be all wasted if i quit now
hell the game is killing me i'm losing my hearing at 26 because of this game.
it still is the only game that uses sound to find enemies. it is still the greatest feeling to be called a cheater because a guy made a movement from half across the map and you knew where he was gonna go.
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>people still replying to the RNG bait guy

notice how he never tries to refute people who actually have an argument? all he says is he can't aim and it's RNG.
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>>318447861
counter-strike 1.3
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>>318447697
there are several pistols that the first bullet is near perfect accuracy even while moving
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>>318447861

tf2, even with all the faggotry it has now, is a better game than csgo
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>>318447861

Insurgency.

However, ultimately it is a matter of preference. Personally I dislike how small the majority of CS:GO's levels are. I absolutely hate tiny levels in multiplayer fps games, thus why I hate CSGO and COD.
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>>318447861
not him but
tf2
call of duty blops 3
battlefield 4
rainbow six siege (literally an improvement on cs in every conceivable way)
hell even battlefront is better than the steaming turd that is CS
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>>318447903
your arguments are about as sturdy as wet paper

if you want perfect accuracy while moving then go play quake

why am I even responding, you're just shitposting
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>>318447950
Nigga all weapons have an inaccurate % when standing still with first shot. Somehow this isn't RNG? No matter how "skilled" you are you can't see the future.
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>>318448157
this is a really bad thing too. which is the funny thing about these discussions
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>>318448267
wew lad nice post
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>>318447861
Did you even read that post? Obviously if I post a name you're just going to list a bunch of horseshit that only you believe. CS is objectively shit. Any game is more enjoyable than that trash.
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>>318444329
ive seen this on reddit literally months ago.
yes i go to reddit
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>>318447556
Pretty good bait.
Of course, if either player was a non-mongoloid, they would know that movement affects aiming and wouldn't do that. Also, there's pretty much a 0% chance a running shot would ever go anywhere near your crosshair.
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I guess rng is a meme now
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>>318448226
cs maps are carefully built for perfect balance. look at dust 2 and inferno for fuck sake, both have been played consistently for 10+ years
>>318448267
>tf2
ok this is bait but im gonna respond anyway
>blops 3 and bf4
at least say mw1 and bfbcp

haven't played the other two
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>Not played CS in almost 10 years, got Source in a 2 for 1 deal with the Orange Box
>Never really that good at it, but liked the zombie mode
>See CS:GO on sale
>Friends tell me to buy it as they play it all the time come play with us man!!!
>But you can't play with us until you get level 3!
>Every match gives me like 5-10% of my level
>Every match is just people camping with the AWP that 1 hit kills on bodyshots
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Rainbow six is for casuals who didn't want to git gud at cs
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>>318436075
I always end up on Asian servers, where I'm the only person in the game with above 20 ping
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>>318448296
Your first hit when standing still has a chance of being inaccurate. AWP has a 2% inaccuracy when standing still first shot. That means you don't hit where you fucking aim. With a sniper rifle. When standing still.

You might argue that it's only 2% and it's negligible however it's still RNG and awp is the most accurate weapon. Desert eagle is 90% accurate when standing still first shot. Basically 1/10 shots will not hit where you aim when you stand still. I guess i need to be better at seeing the future.
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>>318447861
Literally the Rainbow Six series.
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>>318447697
That's the only legitimate criticism I've seen in this thread. That's true, but it's a part of the economy as a way to balance weapons and differentiate their quality, sometimes I wish more of the guns had pinpoint first shot accuracy, but all the guns that are actually considered viable at a high level are pinpoint accuracte first shot, so I'm not going to get angry that an Mp9 can't land a headshot cross-map. Also the pistols with running headshots are not RNG
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>>318448536
So it is RNG then?
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Being good is fun.

Being a shitter is literally hell on earth though. If you can force yourself to get better there is a lot of enjoyment in this game.
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Why does it matter whether GO has RNG or not?

Can you niggers even name a tactical FPS without RNG?
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>>318432505
It's actually called .."git gud" ..insane training regimen ...you might like it.
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>>318444638
How retarded are you? That IS rng.
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>>318449561
>bullet spread is RNG

im not sure if this is shitposting anymore or just full fucking retards...
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>>318448854
Rainbow Six came out in 1998, kiddo.
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>>318449717
it is rng though
how is it not rng if the bullet misses even if you aim at the niggas head
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>>318448267
TF2 is pretty casual and lacks any depth in gunplay, but it does have cool stuff like rocketjumping.
CoD Blops 3 has been a steaming pile of shit; new railroaded movement options that maps aren't made to accomodate aside from one or two huge obvious WALLRUN HERE segments, which kind of defeats the purpose of a movement mechanic meant to provide more freedom or opportunity to outplay others when it's only useful in one spot per map, may as well just be press X to wallrun here and only here. The guns completely lack any kind of balance, attachments and perks are retarded since so many are simply objective upgrades you should lways pick. Assault rifles, Snipers and 2 SMGs are the only guns that really exist, and since you can spawn with any of them it relegates half of the guns in the game right into the bin. No skill based matchmaking. No depth to gunplay, all guns are bullet hoses as usual. Shitty, cluttered HUD that invades your space every time you do anything at all, hitmarkers are still a thing.
Battlefield 4 is a bastard child of Battlefield and CoD, that doesn't really do well at aping either.
Siege is okay, but is plagued by CoD bullet hose syndrome, garbage performance on many rigs, zero depth to gunplay or movement.
Battlefront: lol
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>>318448226
Only fun part of Insurgency is CO OP, PvP is broken as hell.
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>>318449945
I'm talking about the current game kiddo, and even then it was a buggy/glitchy mess for multiplayer
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>>318448484
>objectively
>no assertations, arguments or evidence in any form

Opinion discarded
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>>318448845
I hope you're not playing casual, sir. It's garbage. AWPs are countered by a 300 dollarydoo smoke grenade otherwise.
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>>318449561
What is a cone
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I jumped on the CS train because I know it won't die. I hate playing a game for a few years and then the community just evaporates. CS is deep enough for the hardcore to stick with it and the skins have brought in millions of noobs to revitalize the community.


You MIGHT be able to to argue for a few of the games posted ITT but there are way too many reasons that CS is king and will remain that way.
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>>318450247

Yeah, I learned my lesson that casual was shit pretty quickly.

I find myself playing Demolition a lot. It's actually kinda fun.

Did Zombie Survival/Escape ever make it over to GO or did people just stick to source for that?
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>>318450018
>Siege
>garbage performance on many rigs
Out of some problems players have with the game, this isn't one of them.
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>>318447048
Oh shit it is true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minh_Le
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>>318449717
How is it not RNG? How fucking old are you?
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>people saying cs is rng
>they actually believe it
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I will continuously add to this all of the retarded shit CS players say, you all should save it and add to it yourselves so that when a CS player spews horseshit for the umpteenth time a thread, you can make sure they won't again.
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>>318451304
>being this autistic

holy shit
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>>318450505
Honestly I exclusively play competitive when I actually want to play, I may warm up on DM or Demolition, but I don't consider those the core game. I saw a lot more of the modded stuff on Source.
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>>318450848
Dang, I guess I hot swindled by /v/ shitposting; I didn't personally experience the frame drops but /v/ was shitting itself.
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>>318451304

Anon, I...
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>ITT: Shitters who get completely annihilated in CS

Lol.
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>>318451304
oh my god...you're autistic
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>>318451304
I wanna encourage you to do this. I see the angry children have already replied to your post.
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>>318451853
I think you're mixing it up with BO3 and its poor performance. Although I think it's mostly fixed by now.
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>>318451304
>>318452157
i posted these :^)
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>>318451304
Gosh, he spent 10 minutes in mspaint. He must be right.
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>>318451304
This is almost entirely based off of the belief that the negligible inaccuracy of first shots effects the outcome of any percentage of gameplay. Also, there is literally evidence in the screenshotted .webm of the 5-7 headshot (netgraph) that it is from a replay, which has a very low tick rate, which as anyone who has seen a replay or two knows, results very frequently in the consequential death of a player occuring before the replay matches the killing player's perspective and crosshair. Even by the negligible inaccuracy factor of stopped first shots your shitposting exaggerates to survive, that shot would have been literally impossible within the game if it was not a result of the shitty valve replay, which it categorically and empirically is.
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>>318434553
You realize that it was dead because it was complete fucking garbage on release, right?
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>>318452223
Maybe, my bad dude. I do enjoy Siege for the record, but still object to the idea that it's comparably competitive to CS.
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>>318451304
8/10 bait. Needs a couple of reaction images in there and some statements from major people in cs:go.
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>>318451304
>tickrate has nothing to do with the fact that he landed a headshot while not even putting his crosshairs over the enemy

How stupid are you? That looks like an artifact that occurs in low tick rate demos, which make them not representative of the actual view of a player. Prove me wrong, post one with net_graph 1 on.
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>>318437774
>33 minutes played

Lol. You got shit on and cried, didn't you?
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