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Sony makes PS4 more powerful, unlocking its 7th core
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http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/playstation-4/news/a775706/sony-makes-ps4-more-powerful-unlocking-its-7th-core/

>It was only last year that Microsoft updated the Xbox One, allowing developers to access its 7th core. This move potentially lets games run more smoothly on the system.

Not to be outdone, Sony has just quietly done the same. Quite how this will affect the games or handling the OS remains to be seen, but more cores has to be a good thing.

News of the unlock came through an update from the developer of audio tool FMOD, released mid-November. "PS4--Added FMOD_THREAD_CORE6 to allow access to the newly unlocked 7th core."

This was later confirmed by Eurogamer, which said not to expect existing games to see any improvement unless the developers specifically patch them for this reason.

We will likely see improvements in the future, but it's difficult to tell currently how much improvement it will be.

We traditionally see an improvement in visuals over a console's lifetime, so maybe this will be the catalyst of that improvement.

Can they be stopped now?
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>>318416276
how can xbox fags even compete? dubs say they cant
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>can they be stopped now

Sure, the PS4 and xbone are weaker than my phone.
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>>318417072
so where are the mobile games that take advantage of such hardware?
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>>318417072
>another moron who doesnt know shit about computers
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>>318417264
I don't play videogames.

It's just laughable that consoles released today are weaker than phones.
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>>318416526
First off dubs don't work anymore, second Xbone unlocked their 7th core months ago
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>>318416276
Oh great, they gave the cripple a wheelchair.

Excuse me while I fly my MiG-25
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>PS4
>being powerful at all

lel
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>>318416276

Excuse me for not being "in the know" but why in the fuck would they even do this? Why hold back? This is retarded
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>>318416276
I am an idiot but does this mean that they intentionally shut off a part of the hardware so that people couldn't utilize it?
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>>318417312
>same spec
The point is you have to pay about twice as much as the parts would individually cost and you can't upgrade without buying a brand new system
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>>318417312
Based Carmack laying the smackdown on some bitches
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>>318417656
Because fanboys will lap up when they reveal it

See: This thread
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>>318417397
>I don't play videogames.

Ladies and gentlemen, may I present the typical /v/ poster
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>>318416276
NSA
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>>318416276
WHAT DID I TELL YOU FAGGOTS
SONY ALWAYS WINS
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>>318417312
>Gimped 5 year old hardware x2
>Still no competition to my hardware

Shit multiplied by 2 is still shit
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>>318417397
what the fuck are you doing here?
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>>318416276
>implying the crossplats that push the envelope on console are using more than 2 cores

consoles bragging about cores is like some 17 year old bragging about his awesome new wing he got put on his ricer car
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>>318417826
Actually this, they need an extra core now that they want to spy on the ps4 users.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the land of the free....
1984 was a warning, not a manual.
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More cores is nice and all, but are there going to be any games to play to use that new core with?
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>>318417891
The same thing sonyggers are here for.

Console wars.
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>>318416276
Is this satire? This shit doesn't actually happen does it? It's too retarded to believe
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>>318416276
>on disc dlc
>on hardware dlc
#4thePlayer
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>WiiU and Xbone owners face when
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I hear they are also unlocking 4 more gbs of hidden ram that no one knows about.
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>>318417397
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>>318417684
So you are able to build a Pc for 175$ with the same spec as a Ps4?
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>>318417839
THE
7th
CORE

IT'S OVER, FOLKS
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>>318418141
NSA
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>>318416276
We had this thread yesterday
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>locking cores to limit games from being the best they can be right off the bat

They're both scum.
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>>318416276
Why wasn't it unlocked in the first place?
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>>318416276
Not so fast..
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>>318418360
Repeated threads on 4chan? The OUTRAGE.
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>>318418412
Because ____NSA____
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>Can they be stopped now?
The PS4 sold really well when it had absolutely no games. Brand loyalty is too strong.

Forcing people to pay for online service didn't slow down sales either, and announcing yet another game you can play on a older console has actually gotten people excited.

>xbawks announces halo 5
>LOL REHASH!
>nintendo announces star fox
>LOL REHASH
>sony announces yet another remastered game with slightly better graphics
>I-ITS OK WHEN SONY DOES IT
Vidya industry is shit, and dumbasses who buy remastered games are just making it worse.
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>>318418452
no
it simply show you aren't a funny person and don't have a beautiful mind
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>>318417072
I'll bite. What phone do you have?
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>>318416276

>THE 7TH CORE

ITS LIKE THE PROPHECY HAS FORETOLD
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>>318418484
>Reliable Ecchi Deliverer Sniper !xhBRbl3jHE
>40%
>sauce(dead)japan (gaynigger)

filters work so well
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>>318418093
>must buy whole new card for upgrade
>then new mother board to handle it
>then power suply to use it
PCook master race
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>>318417890
Yeah but your shit is just one piece while we have 2! Maybe theres a guy wants to buy shit for a million dollars but wants two? Now ive gotta million and youve still got one peice of shit
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How the fuck did the PS4 require two cores like the Xbox when the Xbox had to run multiple operating systems and process Kinect and the PS4 was as feature rich as a microwave?
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>>318417397
why is it laughable? I honestly dont understand what youre bragging about.

so you can call/text people and go on the internet on your phone? what else is there to do on your phone if you dont play games on it?
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>>318417312
that faggot only has his name to back up his bullshit. It's a matter of time before he gets exposes for the talentless, irrelevant hack he really is.
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>virtual, software based cores
Get ready to get your console performances decreasing and system being bricked at random.
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what happens when they unlock the 8th core?
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>>318418724
Teach me he almost fucking triggered me
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>>318419026
The true power of the cell is finally unlocked
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>>318419026
It overheats
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>>318419026
Third Impact
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Compared to the bone? Not a chance. Sony has destroyed this gen and they know it. Their only real competition is with PC, since the Wii is always a +1 console.
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Why does the amount of unlocked cores matter when the gpu is shit?
Sony and microsoft are putting the horse in front of the carriage.
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>>318418760
probably for the PS eye camera and maybe just in case they decided to add something to the os dunno
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>>318416276
>AMD 1,6 GHz core
So, it will now get like 0.2 FPS more?
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>>318419252
I mean the horse before the carriage
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>>318419026
We'll see some serious shit.
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>>318419026
the singularity
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>>318417264
Exactly this. Why is such technology needed for a device that plays flash games? Tin foil hat time.
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But when are we gettin some games?
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>>318417312
So instead of giving 1 FPS more, it will give 2 more?
Impressive.
If it had a Intel core, or a CPU with the single-core performance of a Intel CPU, it would be relevant, but even the cores of the 5 GHz FX-9590 are pure shit.
The CPU of the new consoles is exactly the reason why they simply can't handle 1080p and 60 FPS and why since day 1 they have been getting resolution and FPS downgrades.
You could add 10 cores more, they would still be cores from a AMD APU.
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>>318419026
Console probably bursts into flames
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>>318419026
It unleashes the Unlimited Kaz Works Reality Marble.
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>>318419026
Event Horizon
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Will the WiiU unlock its cores too?
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>>318419026
It will overheat and we all die
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>>318419026
The fate transfer
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>>318418360
I hope the ps4 has ninja jesus to heal them after they go all night guy mode because sony has always skimped on the thermal paste.
Maybe they'll release an addon fan for 50$ that you attach to the bottom to make up for the lead free low quality shit-paste that turned to cheese a year ago.
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>>318419026
even less
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Does this mean Uncharted 4 can run at 60fps now?
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>but more cores has to be a good thing.
>more cores

Sure is AMD up in here.
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>>318419749
You have to buy them seperately
They're also toys
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>>318419194
> Their only real competition is with PC
what competition? My phone is better than your ps4
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>>318419026
This simulation ends, a new one starts.
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>>318419026
Tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
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>current year

>still buying AMD hardware
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>>318419026
The next iteration of the Matrix begins.
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>Console keks go fucking crazy that their game can run at 33 fps as apposed to 30 fps now

It's just fucking hilarious man. Every gen.
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>>318418031
of course. this is what they always do.

think of it like when the PSP had extra ram unlocked for the GoW games.
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>>318419026
The universe transfers to a lower energy state and the fundamentals laws of physics change, turning everyone into magical loli's.
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>>318420019
2/10
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If they kept DA CELL and just upgraded everything else the PS4 would have been a fockin beast.
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>>318420403
truth hurts
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>>318416276
It's not fair bros...I broke down and got a PS4...I have failed you Iwata-San
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>>318420397
What's the point of that if there's no one to fuck said lolis?
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>>318418237
>I hear they are also unlocking 4 more gbs of hidden ram that no one knows about.
kek'd
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WOOHOO A WHOOPING 1FPS INCREASE

Fuck off sonyggers.
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>>318419194
honestly this feels like a non gen. not enough exclusives. I see more people watching netflix than playing games.
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>>318420494
Stop mang, you gonna make me cry
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>>318420141
>mfw consoles are all amd
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>>318419026

It becomes an Absolute Being
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>>318419026
all games finally run at 32 fps
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>>318420494
It dosnt work like that.

Smartphones that are 10x stronger than the PS3/X360 can barely use UE3 and this is technology from 12 years ago.

Or am i gettin baited
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Bloodborne 60fps when?
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>>318420645
let it go
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>>318420527
Magical
Lolis
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>>318418237
You know that ps4 currently let dev only use 5 of the 8gb of ram right?
You know that they can decide anytime to remove the facebook/share shit and give all this ram to dev whenever they want right?
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>>318416276
>but more cores has to be a good thing.

What is this, 2011?
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a core makes almost no difference all it means is its one more task the PS4 can perform while its performing others
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>>318416276
SONY DOES IT AGAIN. XBOX FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH.
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The cores couldnt save it from 3,5minute load times in Just Cause.
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OH WOW
A whole extra core that'll be used to make the share function even more useless. You'll be able to tell your PS4 "Kaz, record that!" like those Xbots.
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>>318420912
Software has finally caught up
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>mfw ps4 released its limiters
>games are still far off in the horizon

oh well
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>>318421061
thats nothing compared to 15 minute load times
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>>318417397
>I don't play videogames.
-90% of /v/
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This reminds me of something.
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>>318421125
>deflecting to another shitbox
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let's just admit it

this generation sucks
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>>318416276
SONY ALLWAYS FUCKING WIN!
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>>318421004

what the fuck image did you save
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>>318419075
It's not even the Cell anymore, dumbass.
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>>318421252
im waiting to see how it performs on my PC when i pirate it
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>>318421245
Sony copying Nintendo, how unexpected.
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>>318421328
One that you'll reply to
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7 CORES

7 TIMES THE POWER
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>MOAR COARZ
Where have I heard this before?
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it's sad when the console OS patches get more attention than its games
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>>318419026
Games will run at 30FPS on PS4.
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Why would they lock a core on the processor out from the factory unless it serves a function that is no longer guaranteed (e.g. for game recording) if a dev needs the resources?

Locking a core at the factory is traditionally done to improve yields on the chip. If you make an eight core processor with the intent to use seven of those in the console, you can use any chip that has no or one bad core rather than throwing out a chip that only has one bad core.
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>>318421417
its only one more core not 7
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Nobody here actually plays consoles... Right? : S
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>still has paid online
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SILKY
SMOOTH
18FPS
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>>318421652
Nobody here actually plays PC... Right? : S
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Is this real? Why do they not start with all the cores unlocked? I don't understand?
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>>318421608
it wasnt locked the OS was using it but now the OS is running on only one core while games are running on the other 7
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HOW THE FUCK DOES SONY KEEP DOING IT?
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>>318416276
Oh fucking great, this just means FF15 will be pushed back 2 years because they want to utilize the new core.
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>>318421726
2 of the 8 cores of the ps4 were used for os functions
sony choosed to give one core to the devs
they can do the same thing with ram
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>>318421726
That's not how super chinese cartoon battles work, anon.
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>>318417657
>keep a core held back because companies forcing people to make 360 and ps3 games
>now they can finally use the full power

Seems like a smart move to me.
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So it can reach 40 fps now?
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instead of actual discussion, these threads are literally 100% shitposting

WHY

kill yourselves faggots
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>>318421957
I guess that makes sense?
>>318421967
Fuck shonen.
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>>318422069
It's /v/ you melodramatic faggot, when has there been actual discussion in the past several years?
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>>318421880
no-one cares about your emo, shit-tier, linear as fuck, boy band world tour game anyways.
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>>318422069
>comes to /v/ for an actual discussion
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I remember organizations buying PS3s in bulk and connecting them together to do calculations.

Could the same be done to play console games? Buy, for example, 3 PS4 for $1200 and play with much better performance? I know it can be done with things like the Raspberry Pi.

If it could be done, what would perform better?
A $400 PC or 1 PS4?
A $800 PC or 2 PS4s?
A $1200 PC or 3 PS4s?
A $1600 PC or 4 PS4s?
Not counting screens, used parts, etc.
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>>318422769
Corporations bought PS3s because originally they supported other OS support.
So you could slap Linux on it and use it like a PC.

But Sony being the niggers they are patched it away.
And I doubt that it would be worth it with the PS4 anyways. The hardware isnt amazing.
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>>318416276
>Sony to release new update that adds more RAM to the PS4
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>>318421957
>they can do the same thing with ram
LOL
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>>318418274
Yes with sales/used parts

Cheap AMD CPU and a 7850
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>>318419026

The Power of the Cellâ„¢ is achieved
Which heralds the end of the world and armaggedom
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>>318419026
8th gear
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Can they let me access the 7th core so I can get Bloodborne to fucking load faster?
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>>318419026

Ctulhu would rise
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>>318424729
Oh, but you can't build a PC with used parts for $175 that matches the specs of a used PS4. Plus, you are not counting the labor time.
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>>318423127
The cell was an amazing processor at its time for certain tasks. Certain workloads (math/number crunching) could be done beautifully on that processor. It was a terrible processor for a game console, but for groups that needed cheap access to that power, the console was a steal.
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>>318417312
Evidence that Twitter makes everyone sound retarded and eventually become retard.
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GUYS YOU CAN SEE THE IMPROVEMENT IMMEDIATELY

SILKY
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25FPS

UP ONE FPS FROM BEFORE!

BASED SONY!
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>it'll be used for additional social features
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>>318426349
Welp guys, I think this is the moment where I finally cave and pick up a brand new PS4.

4 the players!
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>>318416276
Cool, more power to play no games
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>>318422230
I care. It's fun
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>>318426349
I'm actually surprised that PS4 version is more or less stable 30FPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDWu6dEuxA
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>>318416276
AND THIS

IS

TO GO

EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
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>>318419101
It's an AMD chip so I wouldn't be surprised by this, expect to hear horror stories of v/ros houses burning down in the coming future.
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>>318419026
Actually get games
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>>318419749

You're going to have to buy an amiibo of Mario banging a mii doggy style.
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>>318427242
It's a tablet AMD chip. Contrary to popular belief, the mobile AMD budget chips completely obliterate their intel counterpart, those Pentium M chips are just garbage compared to AMD's offering in tablets and sub i5 laptops.
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>>318417312
Console peasants love to play this card, but he's not talking about overall performance. He's talking about drivers and APIs. Something that will largely be irrelevant when DX12 and Vulkan become standard. PCs on entry-level hardware are already matching consoles.
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>>318416276
>quietly done the same
Insignificant bullshit is posted all over the Internet.
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Wait a minute, I thought it was AMD jaguar octocrap. Why do they even lock cores in the first place ?
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>>318419026
<-
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>>318416276
>have the console released
>knowingly gimp it even though it could do better
>remove that restraint
>this is a good thing
???
This is complete bullshit. Infact, customers and early developers for this system should hate on sony for this bullshit.
"Oh hey, you bought this very expensive machine! It could do better, but you have to wait 2 years before I change the boolean entry for that core it has."

Wouldnt be suprised if they reveal 1 TB more space is aviable on all the PS4's out there in 3 years, just because they changed another value to "true".
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>>318419931
>console expansions making a comeback

Jesus christ please no.
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>>318428875
They don't gimp it on purpose.
Just like Vita, PS4 has one core assigned to the user interface so it won't lag the fuck out like XMB on PS3 and now you can easily go around the menus and do some other stuff while the game is paused in the background.
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>>318417312
People don't seem to understand this, but the current consoles only uses ultrabooks APUs released in 2013, ultrabooks equivalent on PCs won't run as efficient due to the inexplicit API, driver overhead, cross vendor implementation issue which makes optimization process even longer, some dev don't even bother.
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>>318420912
Console ports were usually lazy conversions of the 360 version, very CPU and single-core performance heavy, basically brute forcing the shortcuts they were used to abuse with the direct hardware access via more focused API they had on consoles. Even DX11 was basically a polished version of DX9, but still at the core designed around 10 years old architecture.
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>>318419026
games
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How the fuck does Sony keep doing it!?!?
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>>318426820
When will we play that?

I care too anon
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>>318421608
let's be clear, this is a desperation move to get game performance up as much as possible. it involves a compromise of some sort, which nobody has published yet so we don't know exactly what it is. but the two likely possibilities are:

>the runtime profile of background processes was reduced
this means that some system functions are going to be less responsive as they won't always be actively running

>the background processes running on the 7th core will now be spread as parasitic loads distributed across all the cores
this keeps the system responsiveness intact, but possibly further degrades the performance of existing games that relied on heavy duty threads

i'm inclined to believe that scenario 1 will be the case because not many people really give a shit about the system menu experience, but overall this will make the system feel less slick. basically think of using windows with aero acceleration disabled
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>>318416276
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Whoa.

This is #4ThePlayers
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>>318432146

Why did I kek so heartily.
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>>318428917
>Sega could have combined the 32X, Sega CD and Genesis into one successful console instead of releasing them separately.
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>sony claims they made the console thinking on VR

>used a shitty cpu at 1.8 ghz instead of a decent intel processor at least 3.4 ghz


consoles are cancer
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call me when they unlock the core gamers demographic instead
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>Two years
>One game
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>>318418141
They will unlock more RAM, that's for sure. I still don't know why they have to reserve 3.5 GB for the OS when with the PS3 they used like 100 MB.
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>>318416276
>PS4 unlocking a secret power like it was a DBZ character

If that is actually true and it makes a noticeable change then this is really funny.
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>>318432468
>Sega could have combined the 32X, Sega CD and Genesis into one successful console instead of releasing them separately.
There were MD+CD consoles like JVC X'Eyes, though CD technology itself was expensive back then. Considering that Sega CD cost twice the sega Genesis itself, 5 million sold units were somewhat an achievement.
But Sega 32X was a fail. Heck, it was released after the Saturn in Japan.
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>>318432889
Because bloat, ads, retarded record functions and other shit.

I dont trust Sony with optimizations at all.
I remember a time when their PSN store ran really well on the PS3.
Now its so fucking shit that its even slow on my PC browser.
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>>318433103

The idea of a company purposely gimping their console just to pull an "LOL NOT EVEN MY FINAL FORM" moment later on is 100% pants on head retarded. If this was true, why wouldn't they have just had full power from the start in order to nuke the Xbone into oblivion?
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NSA
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>>318417312
Holy fuck all the buttblasted mustard replies to this post. Fucking PCcůcks I swear.
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HOLY SHIT GUYS I GOT THE UPDATE AND NOW FALLOUT 4 IS RUNNING AT 99999999P AND 145 FPS
>Pkeks were bragging about 4k 144fps
HAHAHAHA NEVER EVER PKEKS WE WIN AGAIN, BUT THAT IS TO BE ASSUMED SINCE WE ALWAYS DO LOL
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>>318433527

you are retarded, I'll tell you that

Xbone was the same way, it's 7th core was unlocked at the beginning of current year

why are cores locked? because of consoles software

Microsoft made Kinect non-mandatory and optimized OS

Sony never made PS Eye as mandatory, but that smooth/quick as fuck, always recording OS needed it's processing power.
Now, 2 years later they have optimized it enough to give devs access to it


that's all there is to it

and fyi, locked cores were generally just Intels playground before
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>>318433527
I think it would also piss some people off for buying the console when it wasnt even using the full power of the hardware.
Thats why I'm guessing it doesnt actually make that much of a difference.
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>>318417397
>I don't play videogames
Welcome to /v/, newfag
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>>318417072
ifag detected.
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>>318435340

even iPhone 9 wont come close to PS4/X1

and that being said, iPhones are weak in terms of hardware anyway
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>>318417397
thanks /v/
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>>318434116
dude i can play batman lmao
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>Locking away basic functions of a console
>People are okay with this

Who cares about if will "outdo" anything, any company that does this shit has zero credibility.
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>>318436847

google "cpu core locking"
it's ancient tradition
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>>318424729
This is such bullshit.
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>>318417312
All these retards who know nothing. Can't even grasp basic concepts.

Consoles are designed for video games. The resources are used sparingly for other things.

PCs are designed for multi-tasking. The resources are distributed amongst everything. They can be optimized, but resources are still wasted for non-video-game things.

Mobiles are designed for taking and receiving messages. The resources are least distributed to video games.

>Given the same specs

Arcade>Console=Handheld>PC>Mobile

Because, given the same specs, they would only be different in software resource management, not hardware.
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What could this possibly do? What there to even stop the current trend of developers pushing graphics instead of performance. The devs and publishers guilty of this are still going to push that one or two extra graphical features that before they couldn't, and the games they make will still run at 30 fps or below.
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>>318419026
BANE?
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>>318419026
RAGNAROK
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>>318425619
>labor time
>any grown man taking longer than half an hour to slide a part into a slot
You don't see people struggle and strain to change N64 cartridges do you, the "labor" of building or repairing PCs is completely overblown
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>>318435560
I know, but ifags are the ones who like to brag about how their devices are capable of doing everything better even when it's not true.
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>>318418031
Yes, that was the point of the update, in first place.
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>7th priority thread

literally who cares? have you people never seen core usage graphs?
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>buy a v8 motor powered car for v8 motor price
>get told 2 years later one cylinder was always stopped
>but you now get it for FREEEEEEE
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>>318416276
IT'S FUCKING "ON DISC" HARDWARE DLC HOLYSHIT!
Wait until they make retards pay for that shit.
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lmao bottlenecked by the poverty-level gpu
doesn't even matter
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>>318446731
>car/tech analogy
Because those are good analogies, right?
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>>318417656
>>318417657
so basically up until now everyone bought a PS4 or XBone for no reason then because they intentionally gimped it?
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>>318447314
in this case, yeah. i could make it a food one.
>buy a 6 pack of eggs
>for the price of a 6 pack of eggs
>open it up
>theres 5 eggs

or sex
>pay for 7 hookers
>they show up
>theres 6

or religion
>god says he made the world in 7 days
>check it out
>he rested the entire 7th day

or
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>>318418451
Why don't consoles use these anymore?

Each of the newer consoles who be upgradable at least once per gen.
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>>318417072
You have 8GBs of DDR5 GRAM on you phone?
Do you use it to cook eggs or what?
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>>318416276
27 FPS here I come!
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>>318421880
Not necessarily. Developers can still do patches to make changes to their games.
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So how good will the next Killzone look?
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>>318433349
>ads
I have yet to see the famed American ads here in Euroland. The worst thing I've ever seen was an ad for Fury from SONY PICTURES in the PSN store.
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>>318448129
Didn't they really push the limits of the PS4 on that one?
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>>318427959
>mfw dx12 games hit and i can run shit on ultra with a 750ti
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>>318448129
well, its a single core, and its of the cpu, so you can expect maybe, 3-4% increase in either polys, or frame rate. so, 17 instead of 15 frames per second?
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>>318416276
IT SHOULD BE NINTENDO THE ONE UNLOCKING CORES!!! WHY DOES SONY ALWAYS WINS??? IT'S NOT FAIR!!!
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They can't keep getting away with it
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>>318448129
Well it runs below 30 fps even when it is a corridor shooter, so probably that's about it.
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>>318419026
WW3
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Console games look better the later you get into every generation this isn't a new thing.
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>>318448325
Actually, and I might be wrong about this, but I remember reading something about them under-utilizing it because they didn't what the hell kind of hardware would be available to them in the final hardware spec.
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>>318417397
>It's just laughable that consoles released today are weaker than phones.
Too bad that's completely false.
Feel free to show me a smartphone that has better performing internals vs a PS4/Xbone.

The issue here is that one has to conform to a small battery, a small workable die area and very little heat dissipation while the other, has a constant power source, a lot of space and plenty of airflow.

Sure the PS4/Xbone are weak as shit compared to PC's, but don't make me laugh with this smartphones are more powerful crap.

In fact one of the fastest GPU chips in smartphones today is literally over 1000% slower than the NETBOOK version of the GTX980.
Which would make it about 600-700% slower than the 7850/7870 hybrid die in the PS4.
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>2015
>Implying any game actually uses the 6 cores currently
Ayyyy
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>>318449479
...uh...you spread the work across each core equally so it dosent bottl-....its bait, isnt it.
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>>318448805
Killzone Shadowfall is still visually one of the best looking console exclusive titles I've seen to date. I read some interesting stuff about the tech on eurogamer sometime back: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-killzone-shadow-fall
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>>318416276
>unlocking an extra core
>a whole 1.6Ghz extra of amd cpu
Is this supposed to be impressive?
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>>318449686
>He thinks multi-threading is as easy as "just let each core do 1/6th of the work"
Maybe educate yourself before saying dumb shit next time.
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>>318449767
Maybe not but I think they did it anyways because there probably wasn't any harm in doing so. The more the merrier.
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>>318449870
>i said anything about it being easy, or hard

wew, lad. your so focused on arguing you forgot what was even being implied.
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I assume this requires a console patch, what happens going forward with new games released? Does this mean they will not work unless you get your console patched? If so non internet users will be fucked.
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>>318450089
>He thinks I'm talking about difficulty
If you distribute the work EQUALLY on the average scenario you can end with even worse performance than single core due to all the mutual exclusion code introduced, unless whatever you distributed was completely unrelated from each other. Which in videogames, isn't the case if you're dividing everything equally.
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>>318450317
>on the average scenario
shit, so, i guess, use another one.
>its hard so its impossible
great argument bro. again, so mad, you forgot what the fuck was even being talked about. yes, i agree, its hard. so what. thats what its FOR.

>adding shocks to a bike makes it easier to land jumps
>BUT IF YOU JUMP OUTTA AIRPLANES IT WONT SAVE YOU
righto
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>>318450112
You can put console patches on game discs, happened all the time on the 360
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>>318450529
You're fucking retarded.
I actually code videogames for a living.
Read wikipedia nigger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_exclusion
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>>318450785
>check the contents
>hardware solutions
>software solutions

well ill fuckin be. its like, work arounds exist. and that they use it. right now.
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>>318418873
You don't know who he is, do you?
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>>318450970
You use them all (actually manage to code them all in all the correct places, in this "equal work share solution) then the software runs slower than if it was a single core.
Again, try educating yourself before trying to talk about something.
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>Sony unlocks a super secret core, making the PS4 even more powerful

Is this why there aren't that many really good games? Because Sony thinks they're in a bad mech anime?

>DUDE WE UNLOCKED A NEW CORE
>NOW WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTIPLAYSTATION
>PLAAAYSTATION
>PLAYSTATIOOOON
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>>318419045
Late reply but go to the top of the page, press settings, Filters and posthiding, and have a blast.
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>>318416276
>mfw the 7th core is unlocked
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Why would something like that be locked to begin with? Consoles are already handicapped PCs, why handicap them even more?
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>>318451158
>we added more cores
>to slow it down
>im a programmer
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>>318451654
so they can unlock it and get praise and sales for doing nothing at all
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>>318451529
Yeah but can it hold against the power of the cell ?
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>>318451770
So, you are, in fact, retarded. Okay then.
Tell me later how your amazingly innovative research goes anon, you'll probably be famous.
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>>318452168
outta arguments. same thing everytime. hilarious that a guy who claims to spend all his time writing arguments and functions dosent understand how to have a functional argument.
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>>318452362
>Present arguments
>Retard ignores them and doesn't read
>YOU'RE OUTTA ARGUMENTS
Nice try retard.
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