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Gamespot at it again
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Let's add it to the list
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>>318405882
>RPG has a disappointing story
>8/10

>"open world" and "good graphics" are the positives

Games journalism is such a fucking joke
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>Nintendo make a shit game again
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>>318406051
This one is especially bad.
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>>318405882

I'll admit, story is fucking important to an RPG, but ambiguous systems and inconsistant soundtrack sound to me like they are looking for reasons to drop the score.

Do they just hate nintendo over at gamespot?
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Whoa, wait. I thought Xenoblade was going to save the Wii U. What the fuck happened?
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>>318406051

>difficulty spikes

what, who fucking reviewed this?
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>>318405945
Those are fair scores for those games.
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>>318405882
Considering most gamespot review, this one is reasonable.
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>>318405882
>shitty story
Whats the point then? The combat sucks.
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>not a single bad thing about the game, meaning the game is flawless
>still don't give it a perfect score
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>>318406929
>Do they just hate nintendo over at gamespot?
Well... yeah, it's been kind of obvious for a while.
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>>318406051
I agree in that it deserved this score, but this review is dumb.
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>>318406993
http://www.gamespot.com/profile/carolynmichelle/reviews
Just a reminder the DS tie in game for the first Transformers movie got a better score than Dark Moon did.
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I guess its better than using the 7-10 scale like IGN
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>>318406929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HanlOviJ62E
If you're feeling down I always watch this to make me feel better
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>>318407130
most of the story is tied into the side quest so the reviewers were probably focusing on the main quest
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They're not wrong about the bad story and the music though.

Just don't go in expecting another Xenoblade Chronicles.
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>>318407394
>God Hand
>3

Unforgivable.
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>>318407265
Arent the movie-based Transformers games really bad?
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>>318407143
>It's a little, barely 3D, Mario game
Probably just not compelling.
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>>318407143
It does what it's supposed to do perfectly. And that's being a family friendly/Casualized 3D mario game with multiplayer.
That's not enough for a perfect 10.
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>>318407492
How do you fuck that up?
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Reminder: Gamespot fired a employee for not giving a game a really good score back when they were paid to advertise that game....

I won't trust anything Gamespot says. Unless they were paid... they ain't gonna give anyone 9s or higher.
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This means Ill love the game.

DKTF is the best platformer ever, period.
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>>318405945
holy fuck that shit taste
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>>318405882
>Shitty story

Considering the whole point of the game is that your humanity's protectors but then you learn all of humanity died already anyway, that's a fair score.

Basically, X looked like Xenoblade without anything that made Xenoblade charming. The music also stood no chance since it wasn't that GOAT ensemble of composers the first game had and it's just kind of... there. It doesn't have a Bionis' Leg, Eryth Sea Night, or Unfinished Battle to hook people.
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What's the problem? The battle theme sounds out of place like it was straight out of some shitty Sega game with literally who rapping over the instrumental
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>>318407660
Sawano is absolutely horrible, his music might work in your Chinese cartoons but it almost never fits the scenes in the game.

And the story is just there, it has a few twists and turns but still lacks the grandeur of XC.
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>>318407432
Wait wait wait, hold up. She thinks a kirby game is too hard? Seriously now? Is this a satirical video or is it the official gamespot?
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>>318407894
They fucked the one thing that was hard to fuck up, god dammit.
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>>318405882
>>318405945
>>318406051

HATE NINTENDO.
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>>318407432
Holy shit.
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>>318405945
>Harsh
>I'm too bad at this
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THEY FUCKING DID IT AGAIN

THEY GAVE A NINTENDO GAME ANYTHING BUT A 9

THIS IS PROOF THAT THERE IS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST NINTENDO. THEY WANT TO PUNISH NINTENDO FOR NOT PAYING FOR REVIEWS. THEY KEEP GIVING NINTENDO GAMES RATINGS BELOW A 9 AND ITS UN FUCKING ACCEPTABLE
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>>318407492

Write a game for long-time Xeno- fans instead of Xenoblade fans. They're somewhat distinct audiences at this point.

And then let NoA localize it instead of NoE to damage it further.
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>>318405882
>ambiguous systems
I don't know what that means.
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what are you guys smoking? 8 is a good score for a mediocre game like xeno
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>>318405945
>Tropical Freeze
>Not mentioning the god-tier soundtrack
>Dull level design
>Cheap platforming

What the fuck am I even reading?
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>>318408146
You could always try reading the review
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>>318407432
>GameXplain:
>"I respect your opinion. I just find it completely baffling."
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>>318406051

L-E-L

It goes to show people are just pretending to like the soul series to prove that they are not casual faggots.
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>>318408310
hahaha no
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>>318405945
Dong Freeze deserves a 6 though.
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>>318408103
Go home feelposter

Everyone knows reviews are worth nothing anyway.
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>>318407432

Holy crap, this review was pretty much "im fucking awful at this game, so it's terrible!"
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>>318408443
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>>318407265
are you telling dark of the moon is much better than first one?
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>>318407432
This game honestly looks terrible to play.
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>>318405945

Tropical Freeze getting a 6 is just ridiculous
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>Expecting Sawano to hit this mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhCCI8khCW4

>Ever

Yeah, the music was fucked from the start, let's not even kid ourselves. A team of Shimomura, ACE+, Kiyota, and Mitsuda is too hard to topple on your own.
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>>318407493
they gave god hand a 3?
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>>318407432
God damn, that game is gorgeous.

What the fuck is up with her voice, though? She sounds pissed off and snide even when she's praising it. What a grating review.
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>>318408643
It's not, it's really easy. She just fucking sucks.
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Unicorn was the last good Sawashiro soundtrack, prove me wrong
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>>318409090
I mean the game looks boring
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>>318405945
>Yoshi's Wooly World
>VISUALS WONT IMPRESS ANYONE
>HIDDEN THINGS ARE HIDDEN

>DONG FREEZE
>DULL LEVEL DESIGN?!?!!?!?!?!?

HOLY SHIT I AM SO MAD, HOW CAN ANYONE HAVE SUCH BAD TASTE?!
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>ambiguous systems

what
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>>318408909
You're pretty new aren't ya?

If you read the written review of godhand, some of the things they say is proof that they didn't beat the first level.
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Guys.. I'm fucking scared.

I'm fucking nauseous. I stayed up all night because how worried I was. Xenoblade Chronicles was our last shot to prove that the Wii U was a worthwhile system. If Xenoblade Chronicles reviewed poorly.. then it's fucking over, Nintenbros.

I wanted this to get a 98 on Metacritic. I wanted this to FORCE sonyggers to buy a Wii U. I wanted them to cry as they're forced to withdraw $300 to play this game.

But it didn't do well. It got mediocre reviews, and was revealed to be a bare-bones, boring game. Another blunder in a long line of blunders. We fucking lost, Nintenbros..

How do I calm down? How do I ease myself and face the inevitable that Xenoblade Chronicles is a blunder?
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Professional reviews are a fucking joke

One person's opinion is not indicative of the quality of a game. And yet people treat IGN or Gamespot scores as law. Not everyone will like every game, humans are unique, we all have different tastes
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>>318405882
>Ambiguous systems
Should be changed to
>I don't understand how to play the video games
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so the game is meant for geeks and not for "gamers" so it only gets an 8 ?
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>>318409594
wat?
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>>318409594
>"There's too much content in this game and some people will get confused so it deserves an 8"
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>>318410042
I'm guessing there are actual flaws for them, and that's just the paragraph they made for this.

Or it's an actually shitty review
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>>318409594

Sounds like Xenoblade, to be frank. Most people [read: smash babbies] dropped the game because of how much content and exploration there is.

I loved the whole ride when I played it and loved that there was a ton of stuff to do (though collection missions can fuck right off, especially the random-field-drop-items ones.)
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>Woah! Ratings are subjective?
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Every FUCKING day I see threads taking reviews of games as the God's word on if they're good or not.

Seriously, stop this shit. Especially you faggots who cite IGN and Gamespot to judge the quality of games.

I hate eceleb threads, but I'd take a billion threads about jewtron and pdp if it means I don't see people saying "lol game is shit cause IGN rated it a 9.9999/10" or "THIS IS GOTY BECAUSE IT GOT 10/10 BY SOMEONE WHO WAS ONE OF THE FIVE GUYS"
>>318407642
>defending gamespot
Tell your girlfriend's bull I said hi.
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>>318410431
More like
>Woah! People who are paid to review a game put zero effort into their own fucking job?
Go back to messing up my order at the fast food joint.
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>>318407098
Considering it's a JRPG released for the Wii U in 2015 it's frankly a miracle any Western outlet bothered to review it instead of leaving it to rot on the vine. If anyone other than Nintendo (with the exception of S-E) had published it, no one would even look twice.
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>>318410649
I meant why do you care what other people think about a game when you can just play it yourself and see how YOU feel about a game
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>>318410494
I die inside everytime I see that image

You can tell they really wanted to give it a ten but somebody advised them not to
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>>318410754

Or if it got released on PC.

Tales of Zestiria got way more looks than it should have just because of that PC release.
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>>318408909

That's a score you give to uninspired mediocre beat-em ups.
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>>318410783
Because for most people on here, this is how we knew if a game was worth spending our saved up allowance on when we were younger and its a hard habit to kick. Before YouTube was easily accessible and videos of every game ever were posted in advance to see what it was like, we had reviewers mostly in magazines to tell us if we were wasting our money or not,
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>aboooo aboooooo game reviewers are picking on poor nintendo
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>All this weeb assrage
>literally salty over an 8/10, which is about the average of the scores right now
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>>318410494
>respects your intelligence and lets you piece the story together

I bet a souls game gets a negative in this
"-has no story"
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>>318411095
Most people are having gripes with the actual review points

I've heard a lot of criticism for Woolly World, but disappointing visuals has NEVER been one of them
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>>318405945
I agree at least score wise with Luigi's Mansion 2, Fuck these 2 scores though. No one appreciates a good performer these days, its always hated be that shitty "so hard insta death trial and error 30 seconds level" crap N and Meatboy popularized.
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>>318405882
That looks like an entirely fair score. What the fuck is /v/ sperging out about here? An 8 is a solid grade, and one of the reasons I still respect Gamespot reviews and always have somewhat is that they've consistently resisted the kind of insane grade compression that has happened almost everywhere else. Most places flat out NEVER give anything lower then a 7 and usually an 8, that's the bottom. Which is fucking stupid. Whereas GS feels free to do so. That's a GOOD THING dumbfucks.

8/10 is if anything more generous then someone truly anal would give XCX. But as a neutral score it seems really fair, it's a beautiful game (despite odd character stuff), interesting world, mechanics are fine, etc. But the main plot is somewhat off and in a fucking JRPG yes that absolutely fucking matters, it's not a shmup or arena FPS. Personally I'm still mad about the mediocre localization, but clearly GS didn't even take a single point away for that which is probably fair for normals but I think goes to show them being positive if anything. I'd dock a point just for that.

I don't understand all the bitching in this thread at all. 8/10 is a good score period, definitely for a JRPG from a normal rag (JRPGs tend not to be the most innovative and are often somewhat niche) and a fair score for XCX.
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>>318411201

Gamespot gave Dark Souls a 9.5/10 because it isn't shitty weebtrash like 99% of the jap market.
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>>318410962
Really? I always bought based on the cover. There was a description of the game on the back and that was usually enough to tell if I'd like it. Games that I didn't like, like Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, I'd just return or trade in for handheld games.

Even as a kiddo, I ignored the scores in a magazine and looked at the pictures and read the reviews to get a sense of the game.
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>>318411372
It was a genuinely good and widely loved game. Sorry if your fangoggles are on so tight they're cutting off oxygen to your brain.
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>>318406929
>story is fucking important to an RPG
Oh yeah, people always praised Deus Ex for it's deep and unpredictable plot.

Fuck off, gameplay is king. Story doesnt matter, never has.
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>>318411348
>An 8 is a solid grade
Not in this industry it isn't.

Anything bellow 9 is not worth anyone's time and anything above 9 is paid reviews that should be discarded.
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>>318405945

>two uninspired 2D platformers get low scores

No shit. They're alright games, but they're fucking lazy. That's the reason they've been knocked down.

Making a 2D platformer in 2015 then selling it for 60 dollars is just lazy.
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xenoblade chronicles was fucking awful and only praised because it was one of the 3 "big" rpgs on wii.
cue nintendogaf quoting me with bait.jpg.png.gif.exe
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>>318409450
Helium tends to be pretty calming.
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>>318406051

Women should not be allowed to make reviews.
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>>318409450

It's got an 84 right now. That's probably higher than anyone was thinking a month ago.
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>>318411328
always has to be*
What bugs me is the recent cookie cutter 2d Mario games get a free pass for a good score, but these 2 that keep it fresh and creative and actually held my interest to the end with levels that didn't look like they were made in a level editor get called dull.
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....8/10 seems fine to me. Honestly, after the crap year the Wii U had, this is the first game I am actually dusting off my Wii U for.
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>>318406993
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>>318411328

>No one appreciates a good platformer these days

That's because the entire genre was played out by 1995.
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>>318411732
A game doesn't need to be original to be good.
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>XBX got a collective 34/40 from Famitsu in Japan
>some number crunching later results that its cumulative score there is an 8.5/10

So, the review is about on the mark. Stay mad, Nintendrones. Wii U is basically dead now that NX is basically confirmed for next year. Just wait for Zelda U to get Twilight Princess'd over to the new console.
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>>318411543
>Oh yeah, people always praised Deus Ex for it's deep and unpredictable plot.
I hope you're just pretending to be retarded, because the plot and characters were absolutely a key part of why everyone praised and still enjoy DX. There is nothing special about the gameplay by itself, it's literally Unreal. DX is a lasting 10/10 because it got everything right and that includes the world.

>Fuck off, gameplay is king. Story doesnt matter, never has.
Story has always mattered for RPGs. Always. Twelve year old edgelords can fuck off to the latest korean grindan' or COD.
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>>318405945
>some collectibles are unreasonably hidden

What the fuck is 'unreasonably'

Fuck you holy fuck what a fucking faggot
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>>318411894
I guessed 82 in that thread a little while ago.
Let's see if I win $50.
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>>318405882
I actually read the review and he highlighted many reasonable negatives yet gave it an 8 so clearly he enjoyed the game. When will you plebs realize Sawano is a one trick pony and any time he uses a male vocalist his tracks are hot garbage.
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>>318411641
>>An 8 is a solid grade
>Not in this industry it isn't.
Ebin. In reality yes, an 8 is a solid grade for a site that's calibrated normally. You have to actually look at the overall grades of the site though. If they never give out 5s or 6s for example then yeah, in that case maybe an 8 is bad, but it also means the site itself is shit and you shouldn't pay any attention to it anyway. Stop just looking at metacritic dumb fuck.
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>>318412081
Then why did this same site give New Super Mario Bros WiiU an 8.5?
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>>318412526
So? That's an awful score.
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>>318405882
Sawano tracks are basically background noise and then you always have that one triumphant track that sounds the same as all the others. The problem is that the Rap is garbage and it is the main battle them, it's not even fun like Baby Baby it's just shit.
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>>318407432
>infuriating
>frustrating
>uncomfortable
>a pain
>difficulty adapting
>limiting
>boring
>maddening


FUAL:SDSJDHKLJASHDKASD

WHAT A FUCKING RETARD

HOLY FUCKING FUCK FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING STUPID NIGGER SHIT
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>>318412449

Makes me think of the Kidney Bean drop rate inside the Bionis. That shit should not have been as rare to drop as it was.

Maybe that's what the review means. Or it literally is that it's hidden somewhere that required searching, or no hint that something is there in some form. But that's part of the joy of exploring, I suppose. Either you like an Easter Egg hunt or you just want your candy given to you from a bag.
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>>318405882
They will give just cause 3 a better score than this and i will laugh my ass off when it happens.
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>>318412574
>8.5 is an awful score
Fuck you cancer. You and your filthy ilk are the reason this stuff has gone to shit.
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>>318409594
That's a pretty fair review

There's always been a divide on hardcore and non
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>>318408903
X sometimes hits pretty rewarding highs in its soundtrack, though. Probably the best Sawano has done, at least for some songs like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyDc5DGTb78 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsUw4Hzex0M
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>>318406051
>one key combat sequence is a frustrating challenge not a rewarding one
Because one part was so hard you had to include it as a giant con in the game which lead it to getting a 6.5. Even a 7-7.5 would have been more fair then a 6.5.
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>>318410942
>uninspired

FUCK YOU!
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It's a shitty offline MMO.

Should have been scored lower.
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>>318412574
>"Am I shitposting or did I forget I'm actually retarded": The Post
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>>318412901
>not avalible in your country

The problem is one of the worst songs on the entire soundtrack is the main battle them. Now I have no idea if you can change it like in a Tales game but man would it get annoying considering how much combat is in these games.
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>>318407493
>>318408909
>>318409430
That guy works on a farm now.
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>>318411348
>But the main plot is somewhat off and in a fucking JRPG yes that absolutely fucking matters

It's not the main plot that is off, is that the main story missions are only the bare minimum since the game builds its story, world and characters further with optional sidequests that actually have choice and consequence within them.

It's worldbuilding at its best, but reviewers are too lazy to get to that part of the content since they were rushing the game.
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>>318412901

>Sylvalum Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDbh3lLi1ZY - for Clapanistanis.

Okay, I admit, that one's pretty good.
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>>318408903
>A team of Shimomura, ACE+, Kiyota, and Mitsuda is too hard to topple on your own.
Alright, let's come up with a composer teamup to rival that ensemble. I'll start

>Yuzo Koshiro
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>>318411348
>But the main plot is somewhat off and in a fucking JRPG yes that absolutely fucking matters

Shitty story is standard fare for jrpgs.
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8 is about the score I expected. The original Xenoblade deserves a similar score, and I expect this one will be better.

>>318405945
Dong Freeze deserves a 6. I can't believe people here so dogmatically defend such a banal and uninteresting platformer.

>b-but of you don't like platformers then don't buy it

I like platformers but Dong Freeze is like a fucking flash game. It's got all of the depth and content of a mobile game but for 60$. I can accept that nostalgiafags like it but the fact that they keep shilling the game, and constantly recommending it over better Wii U games, and telling their oprobrious lie that it is one of the best Wii U games, makes me despise it.
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>>318405882
>Not deducting points for censorship
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>>318413607
>called out by his own coworker

fucking rekt
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>>318405945
>>318406051
>>318405882

I don't really know anything about journalism. But if you write for a specific branch, like politics or movies or VIDEO GAMES, aren't you supposed to have some knowledge of the subject? What the fuck?
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>>318413542
It supprises me everytime again that there are people wasting time writing several paragraphs with nothing but memes and buzzwords filled.
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>>318413542
I disagree

>oprobrious
good word tho
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>>318413391
The best JRPGs have good stories too. Any time they don't it is a knock against them. Not the end of everything but absolutely worth a few points, which is exactly what happened here. They didn't knock the game down to a 5 or some shit for the story, it's just a small ding. It's still a good game worth buying, but "well other games are shit too!" is no reason to hand out 10s like candy. Deal with it fag.
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>>318405945
TF is pretty much the best platformer since forever but whatever, it's hard so it's bad right?
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>>318413890
No JRPG has had a good story. What, do you really think anime tropes in text boxes make for a good story?
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>>318410390
>Sounds like Xenoblade, to be frank. Most people [read: smash babbies] dropped the game because of how much content and exploration there is.
I dropped the game around the Fallen Arm for almost a full year because the combat was getting far too repetitive and simplistic. From the beginning of the game up till Makna Forest you had been introduced to a steady stream of new battle mechanics, party members and Monado abilities, but after a certain point you get fucking nothing and battles just become a chore of repeating an effective strategy you've found and maybe counteracting some visions every now and then. When I got back to the game I felt like quitting again several times because Mechonis Field felt like some massive padding. I'm still glad I stuck around until the end, though. And switched in Riki as my party leader.
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>>318413542
This mess of buzzwords of a post describes absolutely nothing about Tropical Freeze. Good work.
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>>318413890
Which jrpgs have good stories?
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>>318411732

Wooly world is $40 and reviewers almost never consider price because they dont pay for them
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>getting mad
>at video game reviews
>in 2015
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Yall a bunch of butthurt Virgin, pedophile faggots.
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>>318412059
is that a tranny?
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>>318414379
yes

I can tell from the pixels, and from having seen many a tranny in my day.
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>>318411201
reviewers won't dare criticize a Souls game harshly because everyone will just pull the YOU JUST SUCK AT IT CASUALS LOLOLOL excuse
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>>318414038
Firstly, there were only a few buzzwords there.

Secondly, I explicitly mentioned that the game lacked content for the price.

Thirdly, no one ever bothers to explain why Dong Freeze is so great ao I don't see why I need to write a dissertation on my opinion. I'm just trying to do my part to prevent /v/ scamming anyone else out of 60$, by spewing my opinion just like o
all of you dick riders do.
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>>318413978

It honestly helps to drop Shulk as main leader at some point because the other characters play different enough that it freshens things up, if even for a few hours.

I changed to Melia, Riki, and Dunban (given the situation) and it helped that last stretch of the game. Then I found out Melia is ridiculously overpowered and began fighting level 90+ monsters at level 70-74.
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>>318409594
It means that it's not unusually good at some stuff, which is not precised in the short bit.

Video game reviews are used as customer's compass by people. This short description is great at being a short description you can use when picking a game you've never heard of.

What exactly did you expect from it?
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>>318406051
I didn't like Dark Moon very much either, but not for any of those reasons
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>>318414568
same goes for Tropical Freeze and Kirby
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>>318414605
Tropical Dong deserves more than a 6 simply because it it a complete, bug-free game without dlc, microtransactions or other shit.

But I suppose that's what you write off as "nostalgia"
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>>318414121
being canadian is suffering
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>>318414041
>>318413972
Chrono Trigger. I enjoyed FFT, Valkyrie Profile, and a number of the SMT games as well.

And note I said "good" not "great", I'm not expecting Crime And Punishment-tier here. But an enjoyable world, characters, decent pacing, an overall arc that is at least somewhat self-consistent, and so on are all a key part of a JRPG. It doesn't have to be masterpiece writing but it should be solid if the game is to its best, and conversely if it's too grating it can suck away enjoyment even when everything else is good. I played through all of Dark Cloud 2 for example, and liked every part of it EXCEPT the characters and plot, which ended up being so stupid it really soured me on the game overall.
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>>318410783
Games that aren't marketed for casuals and dudebros live and die by review scores. If the game is good but gets trashed by critics, there won't be enough people who buy it and we won't get another one.
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>>318414605
>no one ever bothers to explain why Dong Freeze is so great
the music
the level design
the creative stage gimmicks
Cranky making the gameplay Sanic fast

I don't think it lacks content at all. Compare it to something like NSMB where assets are frequently reused, almost every stage in TF feels unique and has a creative gimmick to it. Stages are long, engaging and challenging.
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>>318414920
but your money is worth more than USD
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>>318414920
The lowest you'll find Woolly World for in most European countries would be 50€. That's 70CAD right there. 60€ translates to 84CAD. And it doesn't stop there for the most expensive console releases (though that's mostly on the PS4/Xbone side)
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>>318414758
But those are kids games.
And when kids games kick my ass, it's not because they're hard, it's because they're unfair, cheap and badly designed.
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>>318415168

>Deep Keep's above ground music is only used once and very briefly
>DKC2 Briar music is only briefly used in that little 10 second opening of the barrel stage

That soundtrack has some criminal decisions, but despite those, David Wise and Kenji Yamamoto knocked it out of the park.
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>>318414892
>But I suppose that's what you write off as "nostalgia"
It is. I will not give any game a boost for something that should be standard, it can only be worth demerits for not having it. And the fact is that memes aside it still is very easy to find games like you describe, particularly if you don't feel the need to be on the cutting edge. I'm in my mid-30s now so I'm a pretty relaxed older gamer at this point, I rarely get stuff day 1. By the time I get a game, usually 1-2 years later if not more, there is some overall "Director's Cut" or rollup or whatever that is at a significant discount and includes everything ever released and is well patched, assuming the game had any promise in the first place.

For MP sometimes there's value in being faster sure, and I know some people actually enjoy finding gamebreaking stuff that the devs patch later, it's part of the fun for them (just like I have some friends that love breaking drm and shit for the challenge) and that's cool too. But for me for SP games I don't see how waiting causes me any trouble or results in anything but a positive experience for less. Digital means not having to worry about anyone "running out of stock" anymore either. I never have enough time to play more then a tiny fraction of what comes out anyway.
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>>318414605
Dong Freeze is basically the pinnacle of the platformer genre

Every level introduces new and interesting mechanics, the graphics and world design are gorgeous and very creative, the level design is stellar, the music is fantastic, and dynamically changes with the level, there are secrets everywhere that actually unlock more content, the game is challenging and doesnt treat you like a five year old, the partners can either be a crutch if you need some help or let you beat levels crazy fast if you're good enough, its just an amazing game, I can't praise it enough
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K L E P E K B O Y S
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>>318415734
this triggers me
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>>318415102
What? It's the opposite, games marketed to casuals and dudebros care about scores a ton, normals trust reviews and don't go as much by word of mouth. Whereas niche titles heavily depend on word of mouth and community hype. XCX should have been more towards the latter then the former, but Nintendo has retardedly acted the opposite of how it should in both aspects. It took a bunch of stupid steps like censoring that piss off the core, but might MIGHT help with normals. Which is irritating but makes business sense, were they to heavily go after normals.

BUT THEN they decided to also not bother marketing it at all, because apparently it's just for the hardcore fans and whomever they tell about it! So uh, what? Eh? It's not simply irritating, it's plain confusing. Left hand right hand not communicating at all at NoA at least. Maybe it'll do fine anyway since it's a decent game and the Wii U has fucking nothing else right now, but it could and should have done better if only NoA had been more consistent one way or the other.

>>318415214
>but your money is worth more than USD
No it's not, current exchange rate of USD -> CAD is 1 : 1.33, maybe you're thinking of the Euro (1 : 0.95) or the pound (1 : 0.66)?
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>>318415734
who cares, they exiled him to the kotaku acid mines
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>>318415734
he really like danganrompa though. that fact that the game is as long as it is without introducing many new mechanics works against it. gone home is real simple but its also only a couple of hours long, as opposed to danganronpa's 20
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>>318416053
>No it's not, current exchange rate of USD -> CAD is 1 : 1.33
I hate to break it to you but 1USD to 1.33 CAD means that CAD is worth more
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>>318414605
>the game lacked content for the price.
Now I know you're talking out your ass. 8 to 12 hours is no slouch for a platformer.
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>>318407703
Jeff said that the people who were in charge of Gamespot at the time he was fired are long gone. It's pretty much a different organization now
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>>318415380
>DKC2 Briar music is only briefly used in that little 10 second opening of the barrel stage
did you not beat the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d1jTRvxZkQ
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Kinda expected these scores. XCX falls under the JRPG category, even more so the MMO genre, that Westerners just can't seem to understand. They hate anything close to a grinding system and anything that takes hours to get somewhere.
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>>318409227
>Unicorn was the only good Sawashiro soundtrack
fixed
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>>318416543
yeah, and CBS bought GB and the two companies work together all the time now
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>>318416409
1 Canadian dollar is currently worth 75 US cents
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>>318416567

Oh, I know. I was talking more that specific remix. Seems kind of a waste to compose a whole track when it only sees a few seconds of use.
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>>318416629
Most of the reviewers seem to like that aspect of the game though

The biggest complaints I have been seeing are that the gameplay systems are too complex, the story doesnt have a big focus, and SJWs whining about female bodies
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>>318416803
Oh, and I've also heard a lot of complaints that you dont get your doll/skell early on in the game

which leads me to believe that a lot of reviewers didnt even get far enough to reach the mechs yet
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>>318416409
That's... not how math works anon. Wow. You really should have covered this in like, I don't even know, 2nd grade? 3rd? It's been so long since multiplication and division were covered I can't even remember. Algebra was 7th grade though, so it must have been 4th or earlier.
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>>318417007
Also read some complains that the game was too difficult.
Can't seem to understand, because games like Bayonetta gets praised for it.
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>>318416629
grinding is bad game design, particularly in a single player game
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>>318417127
I love grinding. I grew up with the old MMOs and hated when questing replaced leveling.
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>>318417126
It's because professional reviews are a fucking joke. Everyone has different skill levels and different tastes in games, so why should I take some faggot at IGN's score as law?
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>>318416629

Necessary grinding IS bad game design.
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>>318413743
Video games journalism does not currently exists. It's either a branch of publishers marketing department or just a biased opinion sold as a service.
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>>318417387
good thing there's no necessary grinding in any decent jrpg including this one
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>we want the Skyrim audience
>HUGE OPEN WORLD WITH MULTIPLAYER
>OST by Sawano, the king hack of all composers that only low powerlevel faggots enjoy
>stray from an MC with a personality and go with the blank self insert shit
Xenoblade is one of my favorite games, and this one looks /m/ as fuck, but they alienated their audience. They can fuck off with the mass appeal shit. I don't care about console wars because I have a job and buy whatever I want, and I was going to buy a WiiU when this got announced, but now I'm glad I held off.
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>>318417127
No, grinding is specifically bad in MP games, in single player though it's just niche. There are entire game types where grinding is much of the entire point (Disgaea and the like for example) and part of what people love about them.

I can see that or any other niche stuff making for hard reviews though because basically you need two scores: one for everyone, one for people who love that type of game in general. The former want to know if this is one of those rare gems that is so good that even if you don't normally play that type you should play this exception anyway. The latter aren't concerned about the "negatives" of the genre itself because for them those are positives, they care purely about how it's done and other aspects. Applies to any type of game at all, but more so the more niche it is. I don't think I've ever, ever seen a review site do a dual-score system though.
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>>318411641
Yea, bet you love only playing COD and meme games.
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I am LOVING these reviews.
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>>318417569
>Sawano is mass appeal
Fuck off
They got him because he worked on gundam unicorn you tard.
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>>318417569
>>we want the Skyrim audience

The director liked Skyrim, which is different. The Skyrim audience would scowl at this game the very moment they realize they actually have to pay attention to numbers and slightly complex systems.

The avatar isn't even the MC for the story, that's Elma. You're more or less just another guy in the team and your choices only matter in sidequests.
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>>318405945
>Harsh checkpoints during bossfights
>Checkpoints
>During
>Bossfights
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>>318418014
I dont understand this, so a game has literally zero flaws according to them, but it only gets a 9?

A flawless game sounds like a 10 in my book

There's also the flipside
>Lists flaws with a game
>Still gives it a ten
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>>318415261
What's up with Europe and prices on Nintendo games? The games that came out for 3DS at launch are still 50 euros, especially if they're made by Nintendo. It's quite odd to walk into any store and see Awakening selling at 59.99 or Kid Icarus at 49.99
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>>318415261
>>318418549
>wah wah EUR -> CAD
I don't understand what you fuckers are on about. 1 euro is worth about 1.41 CAD, so 50 euros would be around 70 loon bux. Even ignoring any VAT or whatever. How is Canada having any trouble there?
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>>318418771
Nigger I ain't complaining about Canada bucks, I'm complaining about Europe prices. I didn't even say Canada in my post. Fuck off.
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>>318418135
Unicorn is the highest selling OVA of all time. That's the definition of mass appeal, you fucking idiot. Let's not even mention SnK. How do you manage to breathe on your own?

>>318418190
Read the interviews. He took huge inspiration from it and took cues on game design from it.
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>>318418993
You mentioned CAD. And anyway then you're still a retarded faggot, since EUR and USD are almost the exact same value, but yurop prices tend to include VAT whereas Freedom prices have no sales tax (since it's all over the place and doesn't even exist everywhere anyway) and no extra costs from dealing with different legal areas.

EU prices are just what you'd expect given all that. Want it to change? Do stuff like finally unify the market for IP and services.
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>>318418771
not them but the Canada dollar was actually worth more than USD for a time, but now its tanked and shit is really expensive. So it's more than people are annoyed they have to pay 20 bucks more in the span of less than 5 years. Euros have been keked a lot longer so they are accustomed to getting fucked
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>what I consider positives and negatives:
+complexity
+no hand holding
+more than 300 hours of content
-bugs
-loading screens
-simplicity and streamlining

>what mainstream media considers positives and negatives:
+simplicity
+hand holding
+more than 10 hours of content
-complexity
-too challenging
-too much content
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>>318405882
>>318405945
>>318406051

>Games get fair scores
>WAAAAAH WHY DEY HATE NINTENDO
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>>318419431
Nig I'm the bottom post. Read it again. No CAD. And a five year old game has no right to be over 40 euros.
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>>318418771
I was complaining about European pricing, as should have been evident from the image I posted.
>>318418549
I don't fucking know. Even with USD getting stronger over the years I'm still happy I got an American 3DS. Means I also get those sweet Fatlus rpgs earlier than other Yuropoors.
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>>318407037
Dankey Kong is objectively a good game newfriend.
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>>318412059
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>>318419940
Ja hintojen lisäksi meitä kusetettiin Club Nintendon kanssa. Vittu kun vituttaa nuo punaiset laput.
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God fucking dammit GameSpot. Don't fuck with my hype
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>>318405882

OH BOY ANOTHER XENOBLADE X REVIEW WHERE THEY CLEARLY DIDNT PLAY THE SIDEQUESTS AND RUSHED THROUGH THE MAIN STORY
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>>318419535
You forgot
-too much water
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>>318405882
I can agree with the Inconsistent Soundtrack criticism

https://youtu.be/Zf-YwZAzVAk?t=49
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>>318418014
>zero cons
>9
wat?
I never played the game but this makes no sense.
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Why do Nintendo fans think anything less than a 10/10 is because of a conspiracy against Nintendo? 8 is a very good score and Xenoblade Chronicles X is hardly a masterpiece.
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>>318420641
Exactly

also
>Lists flaws
>10

I hate game journalism, what a joke
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>>318419535
>+more than 10 hours of content
Heck make it 5 hours. They loved 1886.
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>>318420641
Maybe it's strengths just aren't 10/10 material even without flaws dragging them down? I can think of plenty of games that don't really have anything bad about them but the good things aren't THAT good either.
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>buying censored games at full price
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>>318405882
Literally everything they said is true and they gave it a high score. What's the problem? Are you mad they didn't rate it lower?
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>>318418014
Deserves a 0 desu.
But hey, it's SJW positive so it's good am i rite?
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>>318420998
>Uncensored version is only in japanese unless you use a patch anyway

Might as well buy it and patch it wherever you buy it.
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>>318420362
This time, it's a valid rebuttal.
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>>318421274
How?
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>>318421274
Or just buy it used so that NoA doesn't get any of your money

That being said an 8 sounds like a very fair score for a JRPG with good gameplay but a mediocre story and soundtrack.
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>>318421386
>mediocre story and soundtrack
Fuck off Sonygger, you obviously haven't played it.
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>>318421537
>needing to play a game to judge its soundtrack
spoilers sawano is a hack
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>>318421386
>mediocre story and soundtrack
The soundtrack is a love-hate affair and I completely understand but the story?

Witcher 3 had a shittier story than this, why isn't X given the same standard? Why does it have to live up to one of the greatest JRPG stories of last gen instead of matching up with its contemporaries?
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>>318421537
>main battle theme is the worst track
>general consensus is that the story sucks, even before NoA censored the religious references
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>>318405945
>Visuals won't impress anyone
I am constantly smiling when playing Woolly World at the level of detail that has gone into making the world out of craft materials. Shy Guys having knitting needles instead of spears, sequins for sparkly bits in caves, that one level with those cool bubbles that squish nicely when you jump on them and pop if shy guys walk into them with the needles.
I haven't finished it yet but I'm sure there'll be more. I think it's a really nice and refreshing style and looks much better (and even plays better) due to its theme.

I'm not sure whether I can call a person's opinion wrong but taking their statement literally, I am impressed by the graphics and therefore they are definitely wrong on that point.
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>>318406051
I would give Dark Moon an even lower score desu. I can't believe I bought a 3DS for that piece of shit.
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>>318405945
6 is too high of a score for Yoshi's Woolly World. It deserves a 5, tops.

6 is a perfect score for Tropical Freeze. Donkey Kong Country games aren't anything special.

>>318406051
Dark Moon deserves a 6, not a 6.5.
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>>318421814
It's not the worst game ever, but they completely missed what made the original good
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>>318421763
Honestly, I wasn't impressed by them. It felt a lot less imaginative than when Epic Yarn did it.
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>>318405882
>Gamespot gives a Nintendo game that isn't a main franchise like Mario or Zelda a 8/10
so it's officially confirmed GOAT?
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>>318422029 (you)
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>>318422029
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>>318411328
>No one appreciates a good performer these days

Probably because nobody makes good platformers anymore, so people think that mediocre games like Dong Freeze, Rayman Origins, and Rayman Legends are good.
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>>318422029
>Implying World-2 wasn't GOAT
>Entire world dedicated to snowmads harvesting, and creating ice lollies
>World 6 is an amalgamation of the different worlds in DKCR, it was fucking great.
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>>318420691
I dunno.
Maybe people are just memeing this shit around, or maybe they're kids that are seriously wrapped up in video game reviews.
Maybe it's both.
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>disapointing story
>8 / 10

wut

how can the game be a 8 / 10 is its story is garbage?

did they really score it a 8 / 10 simply because it has mechs and looks pretty?
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>>318420691
because shit like fallout 4 or Battlefront gets a 10/10 from the same people.
spotting the bias is not really difficult.
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>>318405945
>Wolly World
> a fucking [6]
> DONG FREEZE
> ANYTHING LOWER THEN A 8
Holy fuck what is Gamespot smoking
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>>318422109
And I think it's fair enough to state the opinion that you believe the graphics have less impact because Kirby already used them. You could even say that it's similar to what LBP was doing years ago.
However, to say that they won't impress "anyone" is clearly false. It may just be me being too literal but I think, especially if you judge the game on its own merits rather than comparing it with similarly graphically styled games, it has very nice graphics that do a lot of interesting things with the theme.
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>>318405882
That's not really a clickbaiting score for a game like XCX. Probably because not enough people care about it to warrant baiting.
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>>318422653
Wooly World is charming and all, but has there EVER been a Yoshi game deserving if more than a 6? They've always been on the lower spectrum of Nintendo platformers. That Dong score is criminal though.
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>>318416428
>tfw had so much problems with Bopopolis that I spent 10 hours on that level alone
>tfw the rest of the KONG levels took me a combined 10 hours
>tfw all that time spent searching for the letters
I got ~45 hours out of it for trying to 100% it, and I've only played through once. Platformers are meant to be replayed, so if I did a second run through, I could probably up that time played to maybe 60-70 hours. That's great, especially considering how high quality the game was.
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>>318422831
People will respond to you with Yoshi's Island, but Yoshi's Island was garbage too.
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>>318422831
Well the original Yoshi's Island is supposed to be a masterpiece of the platforming genre but after it I don't think many of the games have been heavy hitters.
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>>318422831
Not him but Woolly World has been my surprise hit of the year. I'm not joking here, I am amazed at how good the level design is, it feels like a proper sequel to the original masterpiece. Almost every level introduces new mechanics and it uses old ones from Yoshi's Island in new ways too.

There are even super secret bonus levels with mechanics that dont show up anywhere else
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Gamestop has been throwing out bullshit reviews for a while now.
>had trouble the extremely lenient time mechanic
>says that the game requiring you to develop some skill is a bad thing
These people are retarded.
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>My copy of xenoblade lies in the back of my local gamestop
>They can't give it to me because of release day
Why? I payed for it, and it's not like anyone would care. Let me please play this now.
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>>318423287
So basically they only care about the story. Explains the X review then.
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>>318423459
Stores get fined for breaking street date.
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>>318423554
But they said the story was bad. Why would they give it a great score for the story if the story is bad? Are we still pretending 8 is a bad score?
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>>318405882
>Inconsistent Soundtrack

WHITE WHALE
HOLY GRAIL
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>>318423459
The game is literally on my hard drive right now

It says it's going to update on the release day but that's a lie, preloaded nintendo games never do
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>>318423287
I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

Final Hallway Part 3 was fucking horrid.

It was a grindfest of terribly written dialogue and shitty game play.

Example: I HAVE TO HELP DIS FARMER GET DA THINGS WHEN I COULD BE SAVING THE WORLD.

It literally goes againt it's own lore, tranditions as a FF game, and shits all over it main and newly attracted players.

All in all, it's a fucking insult to the playerbase and the developer, for thinking it was alright to make a FF-part 3, let alone a terrible shitfest that is Finak Hallway Part 3.
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>>318405882
I'm not sure what the problem here is?
The fact it got a good score but not a perfect one because of issues the writer had with the game?
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>>318418549
Dude I know, Mario Kart ds is still $60 is Australia
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