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Can someone please tell me WHY THE FUCK Cloud got into Smash
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Can someone please tell me WHY THE FUCK Cloud got into Smash as the Square Enix rep, again? Geno is more relevant to Nintendo than Cloud is.
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>>318352307
Because Geno is a shit fanfiction tier character who barely impacted gaming unlike Cloud
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>>318352510
But was Cloud in a mini game in Superstar Saga?
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>>318352307


>Geno fans,The only ones a tier below Ridley fans.
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>typical Mario RPG partner
>side character from a Mario spinoff
>one shot
>under Paper Mario
>has to face the other iconic SE representives even the Eidos reps
Geno a shit, you fags are also the reason why Skull Kid fags and Deefags exist nowadays

go back to BrawlVault
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>>318352307
I thought you guys went extinct months ago?
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>>318352307
>2015
>Genofags still exist
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he an assist trophy at best for the next game
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>>318353169

you shut your whore mouth
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Fuck Geno. Put Smithy in Smash.
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>>318352307
What is so special about Geno?
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Geno a shit but I'd have loved a Black Mage

At the end of the day I know Cloud is a bigger deal and will make more people happy but magic users are cool.
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>>318353551
Genofags only want him in because of Newgrounds nostalgia I shit you not
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>>318352307
Cloud is way more iconic and more capable of drawing attention to smash again. Most people have no idea who Geno even is
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>>318352307
I love Geno too, but it's time to let it go.
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>>318352307
Because Geno is a bit character in a game that came out over 25 years ago.

Cloud is the main character that has served as the poster boy of Nintendo and Square's parting of ways, and his inclusion in a Nintendo Mascot game shows that both companies have mended bridges and all is again right with the world.
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>>318352959
Cloud had over 6 cameos on a Nintendo platform before

but hey, Sakurai said third party guests appearing on a Nintendo is just a courtesy than a requirement; so all the "must appear on a Nintendo console first" shit is pretty much dud as a now.

just have to be vidya and hold video game history to be a potential guest representative for Smash.
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Hey guys, looking at this old Geno support thread is hilarious
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-official-geno-thread.72298/
>1) Nobody's heard of him
>This argument right off the bat is so weak, every time I hear this arguement being used it makes me want to choke puppies. We have so many examples of this factor not being an issue. First off, we have Geno’s poll numbers, tied for second. CLEARLY, enough people have heard of Geno for them to believe he deserves a spot in Brawl. Secondly, don’t know about you, but had you ever heard of the Ice Climbers and/or Mr. Game & Watch before Melee was released? Unless you played their games, most people would say they haven’t. So not having been heard of is definitely not a valid reason not to be included in Brawl.
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>>318352307

cloud's going to sell a billion fucking amiibos

(cloud amiibo sales - squeenix's cut) > (geno amiibo sales)

i mean do you even think there's any other thought process at nintendo these days? cloud means more money in the bank for nintendo than black mage, chrono, terra, or mallow would, so that's who they're going with. it's pretty fucking simple.
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>>318353220
They started coming out of the woodworks when Cloud was revealed.

Who knows why they still worship this inconsequential OC donut steel side character. All of Square's OC was hideous in that game anyways.
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>>318354069
This fucking video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs6Ze8JJUHU
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>>318354069
Even Mallow was more in line with the Mario art style and more important to the game as a whole, but everyone just likes to ignore him.

They're both shit choices but somehow even of the SMRPG characters Geno isn't the best.
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>>318353907
>Genofags comparing Geno to an device relic of Nintendo's history.
oh man, what a laugh

only realistic comparison for Geno is basically Mallow or any Paper Mario partner you see in PM64/TTYD/SPM

Geno isn't that big of a Nintendo character
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>>318353598
>newgrounds nostalgia
>geno
Explain. Tons of better shit to view on newgrounds and nothing about geno.
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>>318354302
>>318354069
this and the Smash Kingdom stuff is the sole reason why people are obsessed with Geno.

thanks a lot Kirbopher
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>>318354489
It gets better, the last few pages are filled to the brim with "DON'T GIVE UP" attitudes
What I found especially hilarious was
>I ain't giving in for any character I support. I will still support guys like Geno, Claus, Ridley, Krystal and K. Rool. My support stays. I will support them even if I know they're not in. If the 35 character roster is true than I have lost all respect for Sakurai.
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>>318354514
>what is Rawest Forrest and the sudden SNEStalgia craze for SMRPG and other SNES games back after Japan Time
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>>318354514
What he said>>318354605
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>Geno
>Relevant in any way
TOP KEK
He hasn't been relevant for nearly 20 years.
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Cloud has a much larger fan base.
I don't think we need much more of a reason than that.
Just because a bunch of people on shady Internet forums want this relic of a character in smash, doesn't mean that anyone else does.
It's not as widely sought after as you all may think it is.
It just appears that way because you're on here constantly listening to each other's mutual opinions.
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>>318354695
If you think that's rich, look at the king k rool thread or the hidden ridley one.

Bdee one is underage cringe.
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>>318352307
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>>318353867
>just have to be vidya

For now. Yoda when?
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>>318355047
>hidden ridley one
As in the one where they spent months just to see how big Ridley really is judging by his Shadow
That was gold
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>>318355281
>For now.
nope Forever.

keep your non-vidya shit out of Smash.
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>>318355281
>Nintendo working with EA
UNPRECEDENTED
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>>318355493
other than Biowank's Mass Effect, what iconic EA representative could join Smash one day?
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>>318355635
JOHN Madden
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>>318355493
>Commander Shepard Lands In
>Peashooter roots onto the battlefield
>Faith runs by
>Isaac Clarke appears out of the dark
>Iron Bull rides on the competition
Shepard's only colors are red,blue,and green
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>>318352307
Because he's not relevant anymore
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>>318355447
he wasn't talking about the historic ridleyfag megathread

he's talking the space pirate mansion, where the rest of the remaining "Ridley revoulutionists" are at.
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>people still with this "hurr only characters super relevant to Nintendo are allowed in" mentality
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>>318355635
Lionel Messi
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>>318355720
not vidya tho
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>>318352307
NEVER EVER
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>>318355447
It was.
>>318355797
but this anon is correct, you wanna see funnier shit? see it now, its delusional as hell...even more than before that is.

Oh and if you want more hilarity see the leaks thread, if you can handle the tumblr type cringe that is.
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>>318352307

I would be pissed as fuck if Geno got in over Cloud. Final Fantasy deserves representation. Your little puppet is random as all hell.
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>>318355924
>Smash Bros is eSports
>sports ganes aren't Vidya

lol
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>>318356120
>John Madden originated outside video game
>thinking Sakurai cares about competitive sports shit

kek
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>>318352510
>impacted gaming
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>Geno
>over Cloud or fucking Toad
Toad is the last Mario character left that should ever get in Smash.
Irrelevant trash like Daisy, Waluigi, and Geno can fuck off. That's like wanting that one playable Goron from Phantom Hourglass to represent the Zelda series in Smash.
Paper Mario fags can fuck off too. Mario's already in the game.
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>>318352307
Geno
As relevant
As Cloud
Aha
Ahahahah
I had a good chuckle
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Nintendo and S-E want to shill Cloud for the impending release of FF7 Remake on NX, retard
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>genofags
>ridleyfags
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>>318356598
Yeah just like SFV is coming to Wii U because Ryu is in Smash right?
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>>318356497
>Paper Mario fags can fuck off too. Mario's already in the game.
so is Toad, as a special attack

both aren't joining Smash anyways, expect an AT in the next game.
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>>318352307
>Geno is more relevant to Nintendo than Cloud is.
No, he's not. Cloud, believe it or not, is in more Nintendo games than Geno.
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>>318352307
If you managed to get Square Enix to agree to add a character to your game, which is considered one of the greatest all-star crossover party/fighting games ever, are you going to go for Cloud Motherfucking Strife, THE Final Fantasy guy, or are you going to to go for a fucking party member in a Mario RPG, which isn't even a new series to add to the crossover despite taking the same amount of effort of wrangling in a true 3rd party character?
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>>318356761
I see no problem with that. You're acting as if Assist Trophies are bad things.
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>>318356598
>source: my ass
>le shill meme
he's just a guest character
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>>318356497
but he's already been in smash since Melee anon :^)

>>318356363
thanks I needed this genofag salt for my tostones
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>>318356969
>>318356969
>You're acting as if Assist Trophies are bad things.
according to stupid Ashleyfags and Takamaru babbies, it is. ungrateful shits.

even Eternal Darkness fans would be so glad if Pious or another playable ED character got some recognition in Smash Bros than playable.
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>>318352307
That's hair and not a nose?
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The thing I'm happiest about Cloud's reveal is that it made Genofags super salty
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>>318357630
would be completely perfect if Genofags started the "REMOVE CLOUD" petition other than the angered Black Mage fans.
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>>318357426
A ribbon
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>>318357630


From my understanding, I had always felt Cloud had a much logically better chance than Geno anyways.
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>>318359243
he always had that

Geno had zero chance
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>>318356662

>Strawman

Remember Sonic being included to advertise Colours and not over an April Fools' prank in a magazine?
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>>318352307
>Geno
Literally who?
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>>318356662>>318357054
Yeah, a guest character... like Snake who got on 3DS with Snake Eater 3D...

Do you honestly think S-E would say "uh yeah also DQ XI is probably coming to NX too" at the DQ event, yet somehow they're not going to release FF7R on NX? By the time FF7R is ready the NX will already be out, and it's rumored to be more powerful than the PS4 and Xbone. Do you think they'd release it on the Xbone and not a Nintendo console if it's powerful enough to run it?
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>>318359983
Yeah like MGS4 was on Wii, right?
>actually thinking Snake's inclusion in Brawl was decision to port MGS3 to the 3DS

Are you retarded?

Oh and please tell me how Nintendo is getting SFV because Ryu got in Smash.
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>>318360179
The Wii couldn't run MGS4, why would you even make that claim?

As for Ryu, he appeared on multiple Nintendo consoles in the past... like I don't know, the MOST POPULAR VERSION OF STREET FIGHTER? Or are you such a casualfag that you didn't play any of the versions of Street Fighter released on the SNES?

I'll ask again: why would S-E release FF7R multiplatform but exclude the NX if the NX is powerful enough to run it? FF7R won't be out for another few years, it's going to be a huge game for S-E. By the time it is ready, the NX will have been out for at least a year. Explain your logic.
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>>318360751

Nintendo consoles don't get any 3rd party support.

Before you even start dreaming up of a FF7 port, Nintendo might want to try to overcome that self made curse of theirs first.
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>>318361157
>Nintendo consoles don't get any 3rd party support.

What if the NX is a handheld ;^)
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>>318361157

And yet S-E hinted that NX will be getting Dragon Quest XI... if it's getting DQXI why would they not bother to release FF7R?

And do you honestly believe Nintendo would let the opportunity to get FF7 on their console pass for the 2nd time? Do you think they are that stupid?
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>There's too many Mario characters in this game!
>But we should totally have this b-list character who was in one game!
Meanwhile Zelda hasn't had a new character since Melee and Ganon is still mostly a clone.
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>>318361393
>Do you think they are that stupid?


Nintendo has never seemed aggressive when it comes to 3rd party.

Sure, they will get the odd deal now and then, like to show that they at least tried, but not nearly at the scale Sony and MS have in the past, and even now.
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>>318352307
Becuase this means the VII remake is going to appear on Nintendo's next console.
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>>318359983
Snake was on gamecube. MGS:Twin Snakes
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>>318355471
Since you're going to use quotes:
"You never know what’s going to happen in this crazy world. Actually, perhaps I’d just better say nothing at all–yes, that’s a good idea." - Sakurai
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>>318361680

Yes, because now that the one game that changed the course of Nintendo's success forever is getting a remake, Nintendo are just going to sit on their thumbs while a company they regularly do business with releases it multiplatform but not for them?

Who is being retarded now?
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>>318361692
Can't wait for Street Fighter 5 for NX too!
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Cloud got in because FF has been a very relevant franchise to Nintendo, BUT FF7 is the most iconic game and Cloud is the most iconic FF character. That's all.

Sakurai chose the series rep, and that's Cloud.
He didn't do it because >MUH FF7 REMAKE COMING TO NX like idiots who don't know shit about business seem to think.
He didn't choose Terra or Kefka because they're not even a scrap as relevant or iconic as Cloud is.
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>>318352307
>Can someone please tell me WHY THE FUCK Cloud got into Smash as the Square Enix rep, again?
Because he's not "the Square Enix rep" he's a legendary gaming icon and at this point Sakurai and Nintendo are trying to assemble a gaming all-star team.

Whether you like Cloud or not he's the most iconic FF character, even moreso than the Black Mage. My fucking Mom even knows who Cloud is.
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>>318352307
>Geno is more relevant to Nintendo than Cloud is.

Geno isn't relevant to anyone, sonce he's a third party side character from an age old game.

If you really want to represent a single game made decades ago, at least put in the main character, like Mario.
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>>318352307
because its not about who's relevant to Nintendo, its about who are gaming icons
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