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SHMUP THREAD
Any shmup is welcome.
What arcade sticks do you guys use?
Darius Burst CS Chronicles Saviour in 3 days anons!
>>318318391
just looked into this, looks dope
>>318317932
A360 pad
>>318317932
Razer atrox that I bought for fightans.
Does 1942 count? I love 1942.
Captcha: 1933
Fuck off Captcha
Would you a Tetran, /v/?
>>318317459
>Playing SHMUP
>Headphones on
>Full focus
>In the groove, dodging and shooting
>Friend walks up behind me
>taps on my shoulder
>Try to shoo him away
>More frantic taps
>Pause
>"What?"
>"Oh hey bro can I have some snacks?"
>"Sure"
>Unpause
>Instantly die
Tyrian 2000 is fun and free
Undertale is the best Bullet-hell shmup of the year by far.
>Gradius
Literal garbage, not even any bosses, 2/10
>Gradius 2 NES
Excellent, instant classic, not even that hard, 8/10
>Gradius 2 ARC
Bullshit difficulty near the end, otherwise unremarkable, 6/10
>Gradius 3 SNES
Inferior port of the best game, 8/10
>Gradius 3 ARC
The indescribable pants-shitting terror that is every passing moment of this game simply has to be played to be believed. This is the essence of Gradius. The mere notion that Level 7 and Level 9 was meant to be beaten by a human being is so ludicrous I smile just thinking about it. 10/10
>Gradius 4
Bretty gud, 7/10
>Gradius Gaiden
Good but too easy, 9/10
>Gradius 5
Still playing but probably 9/10 so far
I remember wanting to play Viper in the arcade for the longest time but I don't have any quarters to spend. Many, many years later, I end up buy and playing Einhander and thought how fucking cool this game was.
Parodius represent.
GOAT shmups
>>318319282
Nah, I'm already married to Jade Knight.
how is crimzon clover? been tempted to pick it up this salebecause I'm too cheap to get mushihimesama
SHMUP THEN
>Army-trained pilot in a cool spaceship flying into space to destroy giant mechas and aliens
SHMUP NOW
>Uguu moe 2-year old little girls who are actually 8000 years old yet act like babies
What the fuck happened?
>>318319938
Excellent, second only to Mushi.
>>318319861
>That artificial difficulty special stage in the arcade version
If anyone has any idea on how to dodge the warpballs in the last segment, please tell me.
>>318319694
>mfw playing Gradius 3 for the first time on the PS2 collection years ago
KONAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>318320027
You became a contrarian faggot who doesn't even check release dates of the franchise he hates.
>>318317459
is Ikaruga any good on steam? I've been contemplating getting it
Post the best SHUMP song. Bonus points if it's from something fairly popular and not some obscure niche shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuJGhdLFr7g&list=PL629E2122758FA337&index=3
You are the Viper!
>>318320162
And that's the easy version, the oriignal version was so hard it had to be recalled.
1989
An arcade machine
In JAPAN
Was so HARD it had to be RECALLED
Brace yourselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4jD6AILz3U
>>318319398
Remember kids, never pause while playing your shmups. It will not go well.
>It's a Zub Rush
HYPE
>>318320265https://youtu.be/Ep5O3r7K1jg
>>318320027
too much of either gets boring desu. also doesn't help that so many of the generic shmups of the 80s and 90s were pretty bad
>>318320265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W39WMffSjCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGqNLiZnOjA
>>318320727
That BGM had better be a fucking joke
>>318321105
>Saying shit about Zuntata's musics
Excuse yoruself
I always wanted a thing called tuna sashimi!
>>318321179
I haven't heard singing this bad since, well, actually it's far worse than anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H_6b5t_6b8
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?nick=Anon?&theme=cli#shmups
wew lads!
>Straia sold less than 1000 copies on steam
Welp, there goes my hopes to get Under Defeat and Border down.
>>318321658
>IRCs
This never, ever goes well
>>318318391
will it be on steam
>>318322204
Yes, in 3 of December.
>>318321758
Really? That sucks, I'd buy it if I had the money. It probably didn't help them to release right at the beginning of the summer sale.
>>318322431
Holy shit, this is fantastic news then.
I thought Freedom sounded ridiculous at first, but it grew on me.
How's the GBA Gradius by the way? Feels weird to get an adrenaline shot to the balls on that pissy handheld.
I've been playing Donpatch, can no-miss up until stage 4 which always shits on me. I'm gonna try to 2-ALL DP, DDP, DOJ and Ketsui.
>>318320265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjlPBXHO94
best rendition of PoS
>>318322565
Nice graphics, but the worst soundtrack in all of the Gradius series. It's seriously painful to listen to. Even The Interstellar Assault is better.
>>318321758
this got me thinking, how could developers make shmups appeal to more people?
the obvious answer would be to keep costs down as much as possible so you can sell it for $5
also it seems like games with easy difficulty options can do pretty well on steam
but even then, the average person doesn't give a shit about being able to 1cc a game, so they see less value in the game since it can be beaten so quickly. really can't think of a way to overcome that though
>>318322763
My answer isn't gonna please you: Do like Undertale but less shit.
Make the gameplay about dodging stuff, but surround it with something else.
>>318322643
Not bad, how would you compare it to this though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLITzMXytss
>>318322763
They've always been popular in japan, and every kid I knew had gradius. The real issue is that they don't look particularly flashy anymore.
>>318319523
>Undertale
Undertale doesn't have CP in it, so no.
>>318322763
Shmups have always been a niche genre by design, it's impossible to make a shmup appeal to a wider audience and still be a shmup.
>>318323129
>it's impossible to make a shmup appeal to a wider audience and still be a shmup.
Wasn't that the whole point of Jamestown? Appeal to a wider audience while keeping to the core mechanics of a SHMUP?
>>318322947
Is undertale actually good for shmup fans? Haven't played it or paid much attention to it
>>318323095
Fuck CP, her fight was bullshit.
>>318323263
Well, did it work? I don't remember it setting the world on fire.
>>318323313
Meh, it has some interesting idea about this, but veteran shmup players will probably find it lacking.
>>318320265
Literally almost every shmup has the best vidya music. It's impossible to list them all. The only way to list them is by naming companies, pretty much.
So Konami, Taito, Technosoft, Irem, Toaplan, CAVE (pre-PGM), Nichibutsu, and more.
And this isn't even in particular order, though my personal favorite lately has been all of Metal Black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxU1XU6BEOo
>>318323313
Eh I wouldnt play it just for the shmup elements.
>>318323095
tfw touhou is only good for the waifus and music
>>318323450
Fairly popular at the time I think. 1600 reviews on Steam's pretty good.
>>318319707
No regrets
Best shmup on steam: Mushihime-sama 1.5
Runner-up: Crimzon Clover WI
any good modern shmups that aren't jap/weeaboo bullethell garbage
>>318324645
lol
>>318324645
Gradius V was the last good traditional shmup
>>318324645
Which shmups do you like?
>>318325074
Tyrian 2000 and Nuclear Throne
>>318324645
R-Type Final and Gradius V are my last favorites.
>>318325156
>Nuclear Throne
Here we go again.
>>318324645
new darius in a few days, check it out
>>318324645
Steredenn is pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVhtq6ICOZ4
>>318324645
strania
raiden iv
eschatos
shooting love
kokuga
>>318325156
take a look at Steredenn or Geometry wars 3
I strain my shits whenever I play through Strania
>>318320027
But both of those have existed in roughly equal numbers since the 90s.
>>318322763
1. Item Shop with Ship Customization like Mars Matrix and Ginga Force. Have components able to be either purchased or found by hitting secret spots in the stages. Ship Customization changes the physical look of the ship and can have its colors altered.
2. Selectable pilots with Create-A-Character slots available. Have their faces and those of bosses be visible in auxiliary windows in the game, like Otomedius. However, unlike Otomedius, have the characters actually fucking react to things going on in the game. Have them look to the left or right when things are getting shot down in those directions, have their faces scrunch up when squeezing through bullet layers, have them freak out on taking damage.
3. Have the backgrounds do something other than exist. If the background is some kind of factory setting and ships get shot down over it, have chain reactions of explosions on the factory background occur based on what the downed ships impact when they come down.
4. Have a mode like RS Saturn as well as having no life counter to stop play. Allow the player to grind levels as well as always get to the end as long as they want to. Give a tally at each end showing how many lives they would have lost, and compare progress to past plays.
5. Allow at least one camera angle which would essentially be over-the-shoulder third person.
tldr - Give as many RPG trappings as possible in alternate play modes as necessary. Give characters the players will want to identify with. Get them comfortable with the idea of playing a shooter and let them decide if they want to go for legitimate accomplishments after they get over the grinding and other bullshit trappings.
>>/out/
>>318327896
>3. Have the backgrounds do something other than exist. If the background is some kind of factory setting and ships get shot down over it, have chain reactions of explosions on the factory background occur based on what the downed ships impact when they come down.
Too distracting, the less shit going on in the background the better.
>5. Allow at least one camera angle which would essentially be over-the-shoulder third person.
Under Defeat had some camera angles like that. They were mostly for show as the game was practically unplayable like that.
>>318323095
>I only care about the cute girls
Go back to /jp/ with you, shitter.
>>318325156
>Nuclear Throne
>>318318391
Thought it was out tomorow?
>>318323095
The cancer of this genre
>>318328653
only ps4/vita
>>318328181
>Too distracting, the less shit going on in the background the better.
The point is to appeal to casuals. Casuals could not possibly care less about playing a game against a featureless black void in the background. The sensation of having all the explosions and chaos occur in the foreground while the background is a static wallpaper image feels artificial and disconnects immersion. Casuals want to feel like they are totally wrecking shit in the midst of a giant war, so give it to them.
>Under Defeat had some camera angles like that. They were mostly for show as the game was practically unplayable like that.
Two dimensional planar movement feels entirely too restrictive to casual players who play 99.9% of everything else in a 3D setting. When I was working at a game store and I had Mars Matrix set on the demo display, the most common reaction I heard people say out loud is "Oh, it's -this- game", as if they had played it before (and no, they hadn't, because I had the Japanese version before it was released in the US). I also heard a child say MM was "one of those games where you can only move up down left and right". Again, the point would be that this would be an alternate allowable camera view or mode which is meant to entice casuals to even play the game at all. If they like the game enough to play more beyond using it, great. If not, at least they might have felt compelled to try it as opposed to all the shmups on Steam now and otherwise which only a few thousand people buy (which are the same few thousand people who buy all of them).
>>318328768
Calling it belong in the genre is stretching it.
It's just bunch of anime characters used for fanart and porn.
Guys why are there so little local coop shmups?
I can't really think of any except for Jamestown which was awesome.
Are there any other good ones at all?
>>318319938
It's great, I'll recommend you get it.
>>318329845
Most shmups can be played coop
>>318329769
So your proposal is to make a game that is not a shmup but happens to have a shmup mode tacked on to it.
>>318329845
What are you smoking? Pretty much every shmup ever has local coop.
>>318322763
3D shmups are awesome and that's what we need
>>318317932
Quanba q4, Swapped the jlf stick with an ls-40
>Ikaruga still doesn't have netplay patch
>even though the 360 version had netplay by default
baka senpai desu
>>318329845
Most of them, you idjit.
But speaking strictly on Steam, Darius Burst comes out soon, with FOUR PLAYER local coop.
>>318330032
Reverse. A shmup with non shmup modes tacked onto it.
Of all the people who still praise Radiant Silvergun to this day, how many of them do you think never bothered to play the game in any mode other than Saturn mode?
Casuals want to fill bars, mode in three dimensions, and never be challenged. I'm just trying to answer the question as best as I can.
The other shorter of response that, by nature of the genre, it is impossible is just as valid.
>>318330109
>>318319523
>needs shmup mechanics dressed up in something other than spaceship flying
>needs 3D gameplay
So... Nier?
>>318330109
They tried that with space harrier, panzer dragoon and sin 'n punishment, it failed to catch on though.
>>318331350
Not sure if you count it, but the Star Fox series is kind of a big deal
>>318331350
True but it is played more than regular shmup, I know a couple people that hate 2D shmup but loved Projects Sylpheed.
They're probably love After Burner if they could play it (Thanks SEGA)
>>318331540
starfox hasn't been a big deal since the n64, hopefully Zero will be worth playing though
>>318330797
>Reverse. A shmup with non shmup modes tacked onto it.
If the non-shmup mode is meant to be the main attraction then it's the other way around.
>>318331540
I remember someone posted sales numbers for Nintendo series once. Long story short no, it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Though I guess it sells a lot better than most shmups, but that might be by virtue of being a Nintendo 1st party title.
Would a game with huge customizable options like Tyrian work as a properly balanced shmup?
The only game I can think of that has that kind of variety would be Steredenn and it doesn't quite have a particularly great feel to it.
>>318331947
I know it's babby's-first-bullet-hell tier, but fuck me I love Ikaruga.
>>318332013
Might as well turn Armored Core into a shmup and see how people react
>>318317932
I've been meaning to give my Hori stick a chance on some shmups. Is a key remapper the only thing I really need? I mainly intended to use it for Touhou which has never been nice to me when it comes to configuring controllers
>>318325417
wanted to buy that R-type model. Didn't realize it was so small.
>>318331947
>color-based chaining
*vomits internally*
>>318319861
>captain kebab
>>318331953
The non-shmup modes are meant to be the causal attraction.
bump 4 shump
>Darius on PS4/Vita
>No page on the store
>No idea if it's crossbuy
>No price
Based Sony
You groove, you lose a ship. And you only have 3. One coin challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ5BLyMBEKg
>>318319694
>Literal garbage, not even any bosses, 2/10
you joshing me? gradius 1 has lots of bosses
Shmup newbie here
How do you know when to bomb in a game like Mushihimesama? Got the game recently and everytime I die I feel like all my bombs are wasted.
Also, so far I have played Gradius 1 (NES), Gradius 3 (SNES), Hydorah and Mushihimesama. What other games should I get into my collection for the near future? I like both vertical and horizontal styles so far.
>>318336516
Just bomb when you feel uncomfortable or plan it so you use them in segments you suck/hate. It's better to waste bombs than to die with them unused.
>>318336516
Treat the bomb like a panic button and as if you have unlimited stock. The more you play, the more you'll know when you're in too much thick and need it. It's important to keep playing and see as much of the game as possible in the mindset that you are trying to reach the end in the single credit.
Look for Crimzon Clover on Steam.
>>318336516
If you're a newbie, every time is a good time to use a bomb. Whenever you think "oh shit I'm not gonna make it", use a bomb.
Part of becoming good is using bombs less and less often since they lower your potential score gains, but it's still better to bomb than to get a game over.
As for games, Crimzon Clover is pretty cheap on Steam and also excellent. There's also Ikaruga which is quite popular.
Any good 3D on-rail shooters recently?
Wait, I thought Undertale was an RPG. Does it have shmup sections too?
>>318338213
When the enemy attacks it becomes a simple bullet hell temporarly
>>318338213
Something like it, the combat has you moving a heart around to avoid all kinds of shit.
>>318317459
What about this pic related, got it a year or so ago and still love playing it from time to time?
>>318338351
>>318338367
That sounds weird. Not really in a good way either. Just sort of an inconvenience.
undertale is a meme, just like nuclear throne
>>318338640
I thought it worked pretty well. Not gonna give you the complexity or challenge you like a pure shmup but still.
How's Gradius Rebirth?
>>318339085
Recycles a lot, but very good.
Has quite a bit in common with the MSX and Gameboy games.
>>318339010
Is it ever challenging? If not then it just feels like filler.
>>318339513
As I said, it's not gonna challenge you like Mushihimesama or Garegga would, but it's decently challenging at times.
![23571745984bdeb7453a0ea289321aaf-d7vf9s8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2X1kp9T.jpg "23571745984bdeb7453a0ea289321aaf-d7vf9s8[1].jpg")
Hey guys, I'm making a 2.5D SHMUP.
Any things you guys LOVE seeing in SHMUPs and stuff you HATE seeing?
>>318339513
Its were all the game's difficulty is derived from, so it's definitely not filler, but if you're frequenting this thread right now and have played quite a few shumps, you wont ever have a problem.
The hardest boss however, is like a platforming wall bullet hell, which is pretty interesting
>>318339748
parrying mechanics
parry bullets
parry lasers
parry bosses
>>318340007
Is this love or hate because it's a game where you use a mech and there will be beam sabers.
Deflecting base enemy bullets with beam saber is a great idea.
>>318339748
No inertia
>>318337417
>>318337774
>>318337943
Well thanks, I will probably just plan when to use them since I don't really panic and I have trouble judging if I'm going to die. Anyway, I got to Stage 4 in one credit for the first time today so, bombs or not, progress is being made nonetheless.
>>318340098
As in, skidding out when you stop moving? That's like definitely hate, right?
>>318340202
Inertia ruins games
>>318339734
>>318339992
Hmm. My interest in this game has lessened.
>>318319707
>open thread
>ctrl + f
>einhander
Fuck. The mechanics and design of that were so insane. The ability to like parry incoming shots by swinging weapons you'd ripped out of enemies. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck.
And failing that you could punch out hulls with the manipulator arm and change your thrust.
Too ahead of its time for its own good.
And the soundtrack.
>>318340270
So no start up speed and no slowing down to a skid.
How the fuck do you get good at this genre? My friend recommended Radiant Silvergun and Mushihimesama Futari and I have no clue how people do it. It's so hard to focus with so much going on. Any tips on how to git gud?
>>318340754
Eyes on your ship when shit gets real so you can actually dodge with precision. Other than that, just practice.
>>318340082
Make 4th dimensional pocket shit, default parry bounces shit back, bomb+parry stores whatever it is and is thrown back as bomb with priority over enemy bullets
Villager's curahzy space program
>>318340701
Correct. Also make sure bullets follow the path that they are shot. I don't know really how to explain it but if a bullet is shot in a certain direction make sure it goes in that direction and doesn't slightly drift to left or right.
>>318320905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzhb0nAcVHU
>>318319398
I know that feeling. Especially when playing a bullet hell where you REALLY need to concentrate.
![bGMYsiQ[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NKMRSSP.png "bGMYsiQ[1].png")
>>318340962
Samidare does something sorta like that. Your shield absorbs enemy bullets. But yeah, I can go for parry but parry/store isn't really in the books. I've already made a game design and I've a composer for the game as well.
https://soundcloud.com/nostoppingepoch/sets/myshmupost
Really great stuff. Anyway, I think the parry idea is really cool so I'll probably use that.
>>318341015
No curving bullets? I'm not exactly sure what you mean. MS paint it.
>>318341319
Play bunny must die 'til the very endof bunny storyand go parry the whole lasers of that elf bitch, thats some hot shit
>>318338618
Astebreed is great
People who play for score just think of the number. Like that's all that matters, just increasing the number. You're playing with a different set of rules, that's what playing for score is. You're playing a game of tee-ball, I'm playin Home Run Derby.
I mean you play however you want if you think that's fun, ruining the game. Just go ahead and ruin it. You can pretend you like it if you want. I won't stop you from pretendin.
Just keep on playin tee-ball.
>>318317932
>tiny hitbox
casuals
https://youtu.be/n3Y9nd-vJww?t=4188
this boss doe
>>318339748
Large Amount of destructible objects, but being the same ones just different sizes. Even a Boos fight which is just a big pile of plain ordinary boxes is cool. Sometimes.
>>318341319
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=39679
>>318342340
Incredible.
>>318342291
Destructible object sounds solid.
>>318341559
Will try
>>318340754
silvergun is a bad game to start out on... the game forces you to score in order to even play it due to how the weapon upgrade system works
>>318317932
Qanba Q4
How much do you guys think the price will be? Also should I get Raiden 3?
>>318317932
>using anything other than this to play your shmups with
I miss when Atlus actually made shmups and fightans instead of just milking persona shit.
>>318343128
Why did you post a Psikyo game then?
>>318343230
whoops, meant atlus publishing rather than making.
I also miss matrimelee, I think that one was actually made by atlus?
AXELAY MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWp4taT4yI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kA6d-xgaIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neeot5Xj5A
>>318343495
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neeot5Xj5A
>[Error]
>>318343030
>should I get Raiden 3?
Not from steam, just download the arcade ROM. I don't particularly like the steam version, and I've read a few others complain about graphical glitches and the such. Worth the trouble, fantastic entry.
When the fuck is Chronicles Saviors coming out anyway? I've been dying for it.
>>318343030
I heard both Raiden 3 and 4 were shit tier ports, unfortunately.
Personally I'd go maximum 15$ for Dariusburst.
>>318343715
fuk
it was this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfc3ATRvjPU
>>318343826
4 is a good port. 3 isnt
I feel like coming around to trying the 2-ALL journey for Shippu Mahou Daisakusen again but the second loop always fucks me over, anyone ever play it?
>>318340487
I'm amazed for a company that made tons of JRPG, they made a Grade-A shump.
>>318343031
been using a 360 controller regrettably , are the saturn pads pretty good?
>>318319694
>Konami will probably never bother remastering Gradius V for HD
Literally one of the most beautiful Shmups of all time. If Ikaruga HD looks so good I can only imagine how nice Gradius V would be.
What is it about horis that make them better than verts? Is it the level design?
>>318344746
It's probably your shit taste in video games desu senpai
>>318327896
So Jets'n'Guns?
>>318344931
2hu pls go
>>318321758
Don't blame me I bought it.
>>318325417
Too bad Final is garbage and the worst of the series.
>>318319282
I would a big core. :3c
>>318341719
I guess /v/ hates Astebreed, no one else is mentioning it sadly.
>>318345206
You would love Otomedius then.who am kidding, everyone knows that game is shit
>>318343495
Now that you made me remember this, WHERE IS OUR FUCKING SEQUEL?!
Is Dariusburst going to be a downloadable title for PS4 or something?
>>318345539
Yes most likely
>>318323450
well it sold ~600k on steam
considering mushihimesama is at ~10k I'd say it's done pretty decently
>>318325441
right? I was hoping that would stay on /vg/
>>318344746
I much prefer vertical shmups. it 100% has to do with the player movement. I feel like I can't move fast enough in most horizontal games
I should really try and deal with it though, since there are some really great horizontal games out there. never been able to get into salamander, progear or r-type despite thinking they're all pretty cool
>>318345390
>>318345390
Nah thanks. Especially if they're generic animu designs. I remember seeing a pic of Winbee posted in one of those DA cringe threads, I think it was by the same guy who did the big core pic, where Winbee was drawn in a more humanoid way and had the old Konami logo on her ass. Now if THOSE were the character redesigns, sign me the fuck up. Also
>360 exclusive
There's no way this game sold well at all. At least make them make a Windows version, MS really seemed to have a hardon in making the 360 relevant in Japan.
>>318345360
I personally hate Astebreed and Ether Vapor R because they're overly flashy with their constant camera changes and special "minigame" segments and shit.
>>318345724
360 was the console of shmups last gen though
>>318345779
>shump
>"overly flashy"
>>318345642
>well it sold ~600k on steam
It's been on every bundle site on Earth. Multiple times. I don't think those numbers are representative of anything.
>>318345018
watch Touhou 16 be a hori
the fanbase would collectively shit itself lol
>Ctrl F
>Rayforce
>0 matches
How.
>>318346170
More like, GAYYYYYYY force. Shiiiiet nigga.
>>318346170
>make it to the mecha boss
>get utterly annihilated
but yes tamayo kawamoto is one of the best vidya composers ever
>>318346170
rayforce is cool as fuck
>>318345950
I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now, considering ZUN's favorite shmup is Darius Gaiden.
there is any guide for recomend shump games?
>>318347628
I didn't make this list, so I can't vouch for what you find, but this should start you off well enough to form your own opinions about the genre, and I can track down most of the acclaimed games on here somewhere
>>318347906
thanks
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/nz0227tzb9zor/shmupmame
good place to start
>>318347985
>>318347628
Here's a compilation some anon on vee made, including shmupmame and a ton of roms
https://www.mediafire.com/?48812jiax8m1c#myfiles
>>318317932
Every time I see video of these kinds of games I always think, yeah I could do that.
Then I get into the game and my scrub ass gets rekted instantly
>>318348076
Appreciated but you could probably upload these on mega.co.nz as one big file.
>>318318391
>mfw I've been waiting for years for some sort of release of Darius Burst I can play aside from an imported vanilla copy on PSP
>>318339748
Bullet Sponges
Sine Mora is an example of what not to do
>>318348575
Regular enemies or the bosses? Or both?
>>318348652
regular enemies
Sine Mora's problem is that if you had no power ups, everything was a bullet sponge.
It's an issue of timing, in that you don't want the player to be bored fighting some small guy for longer than a second if that. With bosses, the same issue applies but with bullet patterns. You don't want the player dodging the same thing for about 30 seconds, you want to mix it up and apply pressure, and that's where multt-stage boss fights are almost always seen in shmups.
>>318348652
Both
Having the bosses in Nanostray 2 last for like 4 minutes just repeating the same bullet patterns with little variation got tiring.
>>318348990
Gotcha. How many hits per regular enemy would you say is good?
>>318349110
Lots of bullet patterns or multiple stages.
What about HP bars, fellas?
>>318317932
i built my own but holy shit is it ugly. I still have to clean it up a bit and do the front again but all the materials ended up costing me around 70aud. 68 for the sanwa parts and 2 for the scrap wood i used on the front.
>>318317932
I want to get a TE2 but on PC, it's not xinput
testing
>>318349226
Just go play Mushi and Crimzon Clover to see how it's done. You'll gleam much more information from studying the source material directly than asking for suggestions here and there. Honestly, if you want to make a good shmup you should already be intimately familiar with good shmups.
>>318317932
Hori Fighting Stick 3 I got for 20 bucks when SFIV first came out.
Bought it specifically for MAME.
>>318349821
I am but I'm not just copying 1-to-1 what my favorite SHMUP does, you know. And besides, there's also developer blindness. I might think I'm doing things right but getting reminders from the crowd can still prevent things that I might've forgotten/not realized while working on the game, you know?
>>318350270
You need to play bad shmups to learn what not to do, like Tyrian 2000 or any other euroshmup.
>>318350270
well /vg/ tends to have a shmup general up most of the time, although I'm pretty sure half the people posting in this thread also post there
might be worth it to make a little demo and see what they think of it
>>318350431
>You need to play bad shmups to learn what not to do, like Soukyugurentai and Ikaruga
fixed
>>318350270
>I am but I'm not just copying 1-to-1 what my favorite SHMUP does
Don't copy it, improve on it. Crimzon Clover takes a lot of inspiration from Cave shmups and it ain't a bad game because of that. Unless you have a brilliant new idea for a mechanic or gimmick that's never before seen, you're going to end up referencing other shmups anyway.
>there's also developer blindness. I might think I'm doing things right but getting reminders from the crowd can still prevent things that I might've forgotten/not realized while working on the game
Get other people to test your game and give you feedback. Developing a game entirely on paper is not easy, a lot of things that seem like good ideas might turn out terrible when actually implemented, and vice versa.
>>318351140
Oh yeah, I'm obviously gonna show up here with demos early and not so early.
I got this on the sale and holy shit it's fun.
Plus the soundtrack is amazing.
>>318351237
should've bought Mushi instead
>>318352347
Why not both?
>>318352347
Should have bought both
>>318351237
Chapter 4 - Reality is the best stage theme.
are there any good shmup youtube channels besides STG weekly i should know of?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zUZmWe_fRY
>>318348076
how i make my stick visible? where is the input options
>>318358431
start a game and press tab
>>318356793
i wish go play mars matrix man made videos more often
I heard you could keep your options after death in Gradius V but I seem to be loosing them just fine.
>>318358735
thanks
>>318344597
I have it at 1440p on a ps2 emulator. Its absolutely stunning.
>>318343798
December 3rd i do believe
>>318320905
NIGHTMARE MODE:
- Zub Rush pacifist run
- Gradius III Lava stage pacifist run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNa9Lphbwtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee1Wa_kRzcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NnPwFhOb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shpxfS-YxUw
>>318320727
this is coming out today for ps4 r-right?
>>318317932
Filco tenkeyless
>>318363104
According to the psblog, it comes out on the 2.
YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES TO NOT BUY Jets&Guns right now.
60% Discount!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/262260
>>318364207
Yeah I do.
I have no idea what that is.
Daily reminder that Thunderforce 4 was the best 16-bit shmup ever made and it's soundtrack is the best 16-bit soundtrack.
>>318364207
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/262260
that looks pretty cool
>>318364556
Reminder that this is the best thing to happen to shmups since ever.
https://youtu.be/TnLAC5AJPuM
>>318364383
Then you are lucky one faggot!
Go get it and have no regrets.
Meanwhile, in which SHMUP game you can play as a Space Policeman/Officer
>>318364798
Okay anon, I'll trust you this one time.
Just this once.
>>318364784
>best thing to happen to shmups
Isn't this Tyrian?
>>318364957
>euroshmups
Kill yourself senpai
>>318365246
Neo-/v/ is surely strong in you, young padavan.
Do you strm your shmups, /v/?
http://stgrillz.appspot.com
>>318365329
>neo-/v/ boogeyman
Go back to Reddit.
>>318319427
Tyrian 2000 a GREAT
Been playing a bunch lately. In chapter 3 currently and accidentally hotdogged myself. I don't like this, not one bit.
>>318366050
Wot gaem?
>>318367017Sentimental Shooting
>>318364556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psSamm93uCE
I've been listening to the OST a bit these last days, it still surprises me how well it uses the Genesis sound chip.
>>318345129
>worst of the series
That's still Super R-Type
