>Crash cleaned up with toys and make believe. 62 hours until you too can enjoy inebriated dwarven scholars arguing about the nature of power.
What's all this then?
>>318252306
The next Dwarf Fortress (a fantasy world sim) update features taverns, temples, libraries, performances such as singing and dancing, science, poetry, alcohol intoxication, wandering adventurers, personal needs, multiracial forts (if you want), and a leisure time overhaul.
>>318252654
I haven't kept up with DF updates since it went into an "every update is 90% adventure mode content" phase, which didn't sit well with me since fortress mode is the only reason to play the game.
How much of that fun sounding shit is for fortress mode?
>>318252654
I mean I love your love for autism Toady
But please just give me more gobbos to slaughter
>>318252654
>multiracial forts (if you want)
IF IT AIN'T ALL BEARD
THEN IT'S ALL WEIRD.
DROWN THE ELVES RACE WAR NOW
>>318253201
this; fuck adventuremode
>Reminder that there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who play DF with the ASCII graphics
>>318251472
Wait, new release soon? Fuck yeah.
>>318253453
>not playing with the vanilla graphics
Fuck off casualSeriously though, every tileset I've seen doesn't sit right with me. Only the vanilla graphics are consistent throughout.
>>318252654
Above-ground only human fort when?
>>318253349
>he doesn't keep himself few dozen elven and human slaves to do his manual work
I mean do you even dorfs
>>318253201
>'fortress mode is the only reason to play'
>can't grasp the reason adventure mode gets more love
I look forward to the day Adventure Mode finally reaches the level of complexity Dorf Fort mode has, and you're able to make bonds with NPCs and build a fortress together. I want to do fort mode but in a way that gives me a body. Otherwise I start getting that feeling AM had from that short sci-fi horror story. Hopefully some day he stops beating around the bush and lets us dig shit ourselves.
>>318252654
Sounds like Adventure Mode is going to be a mess to walk through towns, what with being interrupted by walls of text every step. Not to mention how monumental the lag can be between each step in a large city.
>>318253453
This better be bait.
>>318254085
His point is probably tht there's lot of roguelikes that ive you the adventure mode fix, but no game quite like fortress mode
>>318253826
Wait, what? Not him but I never play fortress mode. You can capture POW slaves and make them work the fields? Can you sell them off, too? That's fucking awesome.
>>318254085
There's a gorillion legit roguelikes out there, proper managements sims - not so much
>>318254201
Not without mods, no
Multirracial forts might make it possible though
>>318253712
>vanilla graphics are so bad that even Toady mentions he forgets what some characters stand for sometimes
You have a problem when you can pull out a symbol and have it represent over 10 different creatures only differentiated by different shades of gray on the symbol itself.
>>318253453
After paying with only ASCII for 3+ years, tile-sets literally hurt my eyes, and I've tried a lot of different types.
>>318254206
>>318254187
>there aren't a gorillion management sims out there
You apply the word 'proper' and the phrase 'quite like dwarf fortress' as if those can't apply to adventure mode as well.
>>318254164
This tho tbqh senpai.
>>318251472
Did it finally got close to Ultima VII in terms of possible interactions?
>>318254118
I think you can with mods. Go ask Rumrusher how he does it on the forums.
Is cage trap and cave-in block is still all that you need to make invincible fort? Is there way to fight the undead cow skin from your warehouse?
Still didn't play a complete game since 40d days
>>318254310
Damn.
Not even trying to be edgy here, slave trade would add a nice layer of complexity to the game that could really freshen stuff up. Man, I might have to look into mods now.
>>318253712
I like Taffer, especially the Dawnbringer color palette. I'm most comfortable with vanilla but Taffer is pretty easy on the eyes as well.
>>318254591
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but he probably just uses an external editor.
>>318254118
That's the goal. You're supposed to be able to do everything a Fortress mode dwarf can but more detail has to be retrofitted onto almost every function before it will work. He can only work on one thing at a time.
>>318253201
>How much of that fun sounding shit is for fortress mode?
You will be able to make taverns in Fort mode
You will be able to make temples (which your tantruming dwarves can desecrate and get cursed as a result) in Fort mode
You will be able to make libraries along with scholars
Fort mode parties will include singing, dancing, and music
Your dwarves will get drunk if they drink enough
Wandering adventurers will visit your tavern, and it will have its own reputations
Your dwarves have personal needs
People who stay in at your taverns and inns can petition for full citizenship (but they need your approval)
Leisure time overhaul is self-explanatory
>>318255259
>He can only work on one thing at a time.
He probably just procrastinates for months until donations start to run dry. I don't see what's that difficult about programming DF really. It's not like making 3d renderer on modern hardware where you have driver to control driver to control driver, no semblance of actual game balancing. It's just adding some method to an object.
>>318255652
He leaves devlogs and tweets frequently so that's a false assumption.
>>318255652
This is bait, but he keeps a regular blog/dev diary at bay12games.com
>>318254518
that fuckin portrait
>>318255807
>mwf will never make this face while wetting my diaper
>why live
>>318255652
how many AAA games have a good amount of interactivity?
they have a ton of interactivity in DF but no fuckin graphics. these guys are focused on that shit, not graphics
Only thing I cared about is fortress mode and the fucking never updated that.
Just in time, too. My fort just got decimated by weremoles.
How do I get metal? I assumed you just dig and find it like minecraft, but all I end up finding is more and more water and fun.
>>318255652
He has a weekly schedule and he works pretty much every day. He has a blog that he updates constantly with anecdotes (they're usually pretty interesting) about the newest features, he has a feature/update wishlist he updates pretty regularly, and a bug tracker he uses often. He does a great job of communicating the amount of work he is doing, and it's usually a lot.
>>318255926
>mfw you probably did make that face as a babby, you just dont remember
>>318255573
>its fucking nothing
I haven't played since 2013 and I guess nothing has changed.
>>318255962
You can replicate most of things from dwarf fortress in modded operation flashpoint, save for digging. Terraria has more content than DF and actually reasonably balanced unlike DF which is cage trap to win.
>>318255989
You have to start in a location with metal. It's on the embark screen. You have to melt down the raw ore you find.
Kinda surprised you got wiped out by weremoles before learning this shit.
>>318255964
You should really read through the dev log and read about the shit he's adding. A lot of it is going to impact the daily lives of your dwarves and there is a LOT of procedural generation going in and an awful lot of it is going to be directly interactive.
>Time to wait for the 2015/6 tutorial because I'm too casual and shit
´See you guys in like 5 months.
>>318254518
Yes?
>>318256145
He's trying to merge global map adventure and fortress mode. Personally I don't care cause since he dropped most NPC to abstract "populations" he could just refine the system of triggers to make believable world.
>>318256182
im talkin about interactions between characters, items things and shit. I've never played flashpoint, but DF has terraria beat in this regard.
>>318256182
>more content
Yeah sure if we're counting purely by # of reskins.
Terraria has minecraft beat, not DF.
>>318256184
My fort made it a really long time off of wood and stone.
I even had 250 citizens. But I only had a few squads in my military that were all fairly weak with leather armor and they ran out of ammo. Weremole caught one of my fishers and there wasn't a message saying he was infected or anything, so I just assumed Weremole was just an enemy with no real special attributes. Suddenly I have a bunch of Weremoles tearing everything apart.
If only I had traps other than cages.
>>318256353
There are mods which turn OFP (tactical shooter) into farmer simulator. It's just a bunch of abstract scripts. They don't need knowledge of math to do.
>>318256535
Jsus did you EAT the thing?!
>>318256757
I think the problem is that I sent my military after him and then didn't quarantine any of them after the fight to see if anyone was turned.
Pretty sure every last one of them got bit.
>>318256182
Will flash point have my dwarves bitch about the moaning of their ghostly ancestors that are demanding that I give them a tomb so deep in the mountains that the creatures of the underground will be stunlocked by grieving?
>>318257271
Don't see much problems programming it
Guys what are the most glaring issues in 0.40.24?
I'm returning and gonna play that version since DF2016 will be mess for few months.
>>318257514
Lack of sieges
Toady fixed an army pathing issue for DF2016
>>318257593
Is that actually a bug?
I thought it's because sieges now come from actual sites with tracked populations
>>318253826
this is how it starts going downhill, i.e USA.
>>318257806
You're right. You do need to embark close to gobbos if you want sieges. My last 40.24 fort pretty much had an annual goblinite harvest.
>>318256591
But who will accurately model what happens when a baby spinning at around 2.53 mph impacts a wall at high velocities when launched from a mother angry at the lack of booze?
>>318258034
>accurately model
>wooden arrows penetrate steel armor
>>318256182
>>318257373
I see a problem in someone, or some people dedicating themselves to replicating something else, for a long time with only incremental results to show for it.
is their w not spent on better things? i can understand toady and his pinpoint plans, but what "you don't see much problem in" is time that i don't see anyone would spend that isn't their own petproject.
and they're going to do all this for free?
>>318256294
S-sauce?
>>318258135
They don't even do that anymore
>>318258135
>throw water/blood
>kill bronze colossus, dragon, demon, whatever
>>318258237
Is throwing still broken to hilarious aspects?
I thought that was toned down in recent version.
Still, being able to grab a butterfly out of the air and decapitate a goblin with it was pretty fucking awesome.
This is gona be so god dam good.
I'm fucking hyped, after the lastest ''Adventure mode only stuff'' i kinda stopped playing, but this is gona fuel my need for autism again.
>Human Military Captain
>Elf militia to send out to fight 10v1 against a bronze colossus.
>Cutebold citizens
>>318258465
>Cutebold citizens
>>318258465
All elves are to be turned into woodcutters.
>>318258465
Kobolds are too stupid to be citizens.
Somehow of all the things the temples please me the most. It's the excuse I needed for pointlessly lavish megaprojects.
>>318258726
If they are smart enough to use a wheelbarrow, they have a use.
>>318258762
Kobolds can only speak in utterances so they're hostile to everyone.
Is there a DF mod where Dwarves grow up and die in a short while?
I'd love maitaining a fort for literally generations without resorting to migrants bolstering my numbers.
>>318258889
They aren't though.
>>318258912
Just open the raws and change childage and maxage.
Are there any confirmed dates on any of these changes? or an ETA?
>>318259114
Better ask when people will update dwarf the rapist for it etc
>>318252654
>multiculti forts
>get elves in fort
>make them second class citizens
>woodcutting jobs
>three tile rooms
>generations later, their offspring feel without a national identity
>some months later
>Elfish State of Mountainhomes and Grand Forest bombs the Statue of Industry at the capital
Is this still a stupid ass ASCII game with no graphics?
>>318259527
try harder
>>318259527
i agree adding graphics should be their #1 priority
>>318259679
I agree that after the game is released, graphics should be upgraded.
Thankfully though we're only on version 0.40.24.
>>318259475
#jesuisurist
Guys how you explore caves? They are too vertical and something can be 4 tiles from you but no way you can spot it cause it's 4 different floors away
>>318253349
i agree fuck elves
FUCK ELVES
>>318260079
I agree.
Though I still want them to occasionally come by so I can steal all their cloth and Giant Tamable Tigers.
>>318259754
>axedwarf act signed in
>all private engravings are now monitored by Fortress Bureau of Intelligence
>background checks introduced for all axe purchases
>ban on self-reloading crossbows devastates hunting industry
>>318259997
like, in adv?
you generally look around a lot, though there isn't THAT much bad stuff.
take a companion with you, they'll sense shit.
I'll just looked through "poetic forms". Just what we need, more autism. Simple face generator would do tons more than those paegs of autistic descriptions like "his nose is somewhat broad, his lips are thin".
>>318261126
That would actually be pretty neat. Even if it was a super simple pixel generated face.
>People seriously wanting graphics in DF
I want normies to leave
>>318259527
please observe this image and gtfo
>>318261730
lel
>>318261730
2CAT LMAOOOO!!!!!1111111
>>318259527
Yes, but there are texture packs that make it look like an RPG maker game.
I keep it classic, though. I like the look of most of it.
>still butthurt about the elves
/tg/ leave
So, when I find a cavern underground is it possible to make it so nothing ever spawns in it again? I always liked that I could convert caverns into safe tunnel systems in Minecraft.
>>318262278
NO! I ENJOY MY ANGER
>>318262290
Build a wall, obviously.
Since it's underground you can construct the wall immediately next to the map edge, meaning you completely block creature spawning in that location.
Do this by making a scaffold of up/down staircases 1 tile away from the edge, so the wall can be build directly on the edge, and from the top openings going down. Why top-down? because if you go bottom-up, creatures can spawn on the wall itself while the space is still unfilled.
be aware this will consume a shitton of stone, so you should absolutely use blocks in your construction to ease the resource cost (4 blocks per raw stone)
>>318263015
Thanks. I'll do that. Now I just have to get better at navigating them. The ramps really through me off and I didn't realize I could mess with different layers while mining around ramps.
>>318261730
I don't want grafics, I just want a proper fucking ui
This is game is fucking pathetic.
Poor Toady, one day he's going to wake up and find out he's forty years old still living in a basement updating a videogame nobody cares about.
The rest of you: enjoy your autism.
>>318264681
I would just settle for a way to place multiple objects without going through the list over and over to set a bunch of doors and beds.
>>318264947
and still somehow be more successful than you, anon
>>318265169
I'm 20 years old and I already know that wasting your life programming an ASCII game without listening to valid complaints equals failure.
So yeah, I'm definitely more successful.
>>318265323
>despite the fact that I know nothing about how the world works I am sure I am more successful than a man who makes more money than me on a hobby project
this is bait-tier shit
So, what taverns will you make?
I'm thinking of one in the middle of a freezing biome with magma-heated floors and hot spring, modded crops so greenhouses will work for maximum variety of booze.
Should be really comfy
>>318265323
>values his success based on the perceived failure of others
Just saying, that's exactly what losers do.
>>318265621
I don't really know anything about them or the new update. I exclusively play adventure mode, haven't tried fortress yet but I'm thinking about it.
Can you tell me what's new in this update?
>>318253756
You can already do above ground forts.
>>318265980
http://bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html
>>318251472
I am not falling for this meme again
I tried to get into this game THREE times but it's impossible. I can't even dig for shit, what the fuck. And it's very boring to watch your dwarves move at 1km/h and do the stuff.
DROP
FORTRESS
MODE
WORK
ON
ADVENTURE
FULL TIME
seriously,adventure mode has the potential to be the best fucking roguelike ever made, but instead everyone wants toady to focus on disconnected dwarf simulation. I will never understand this.
>>318266436
Drunk dwarves work faster. Brew more beer.
>>318253712
>Glorious space fox tileset
>>318266489
this is what elves really think
>>318255573
>People who stay in at your taverns and inns can petition for full citizenship (but they need your approval)
i want this for euopean refugee politics
>>318266625
>all those clashing tiles
Absolutely disgusting.
>>318266747
to be honest fambam, i'd much rather have my adventures, gathering companions, slaying foes, doing trade, and experiencing the lore of an entire generated world rather than make a fort and watch dwarves do shit.
>>318260079
I want to fuck a cute elf
>>318265621
Desert oasis. Foreigner-friendly tavern and trade depot above ground. Pumped underground water creating waterfalls falling down the building walls.
>>318253453
>>>/trash/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/gaia/
>>318253453
I'm playing dwarf fortress in curses mode through ssh so I can remotely play from in my bed on my shitty laptop while it runs on my desktop machine.
>>318251472
anyone know if this update is supposed to increase the frequency of invasions? sometimes it feels like YEARS between goblin invasions, whereas they used to happen once a year.
wouldn't be so bad if i didnt start hitting sub 30fps by year 5.
>>318253453
>there are people in this thread right now who play with tilesets
>>318253712
I like Myne (or Myned? dunno), ASCII is way better than any tileset, but my autism demands it to be squared.
>>318255652
He also goes through the forums each months and answers a huge bundle of questions regarding his progress, his vision and the hurdles that come with programming it.
>>318270350
There is a square ASCII tile set included with DF. To use it, all you have to do is change a line in the ini-file.I need it to be square as well.
>>318255573
>You will be able to make temples (which your tantruming dwarves can desecrate and get cursed as a result) in Fort mode
>Your dwarves will get drunk if they drink enough
>>318256294
sauce plz
>>318255989
The metals you can dig for depend on the type of soil you start your fortress on. I think sedimentary is the best, since that also has a lot of flux stone which you'll need to smelt steel.
>>318259527
Hey, you know that game franchise you loved where the devs made some changes to "appeal to a wider audience".
Yeah, fuck you.
>>318264681
The UI's fine.
It's just a language you have to learn how to type and after that, everything's peachy.
>>318271504
The UI is not fine though.
Managing migrants and military is a major pain without dwarf rapist
>>318270804
I use this, along with "Another Natural Color Scheme". I'm so used to it, I can't use anything else anymore. Tilesets hurt my eyes.
>>318271573
I forgot dwarf therapist was not actually a part of the game.
You might have a point.
