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ITT: Fact.
>>318207547
Dota does not take more skill than SC2, regardless of whatever shit post you will respond to this with. Lower both of those and the image is right.
>>318207547
where's smite?
>MOBA #1 takes godlike skill, but MOBA #2 takes zero skill
Kek
They're the same game
>ASSFAGGOTS
>Skill
Don't kid yourself, they're both under that line.
>>318207547
LoL should be way way farther to the right but otherwise, sure.
>>318208371
>Confirmed for not knowing what hes talking about.
Get out scrub.
>>318207547
I hate my own community -- fuck off Dotards.
ez bait
>>318208429
I'm sorry anon, but as a person who is a recovering ASSFAGGOTS addict who has been ASSFAGGOTS free for 2 years now I can say you are wrong, but not for why you think
The games do require skill. They only require one fucking skill though, team work. Mechanics are very easy to master, you just have to be able to work together with people for a hour.
This is literally impossible for the people who play these games though. They are so retarded they play a game "solo" that as a solo game is made for retarded babies and only complex in terms of teamwork.
It's fucking sad.
Isn't CS:GO more popular than Dota 2 at this point? Watching CS:GO regionals compared to Dota 2's Frankfurt Major was an embarassment in terms of viewers and actual audience.Didn't even fill up the stadium upper level with free admission at GRAND FINALS
>>318208816
street fighter isn't that high!
>>318208816
>FPS and fighting games on par with RTS games
k-e-k
>>318208816
>SF as the fighting game representation
As a genre it's equal to SC2 but the only mechanically hard thing about SF are links.
>>318208919
it has to be higher than CS baka senpai
>>318208956
>RTS
>Which chink can drag a mouse and macro spam the fastest
>>318208976
i couldn't find any other 46x46 icons for fighting games
>>318207547
Alright, I like dota, but there's no way it requires more skill than SC.
I've never played starcraft, so I can't back that up, at all, but it's probably true.
>>318208816
Pretty good but everyone knows that CS:GO doesn't require nearly that much skill.
>>318209062
>fighting
>which nigger can button mash the fastest
>FPS
>which cracker can twitch the fastest
>>318208641
This.
Now throw in AC+R slightly higher on skill, but completely behind the popularity axis.
>>318209067
>can't even see whats in the top corner
okay.jpg
>>318207547
that's a lot of garbage taste for one image
>>318208758
Agreed from another recovering assfaggots addict, whole genre is about teamwork but 96% of the community doesn't even know how to define the word.
>>318208371
the same genre yes, but they really are different in their approaches.
quake and halo are both "the same game" if you go by your logic
>>318208758
Left 4 Dead taught me to never ever trust random strangers with my livelihood, especially random children. The best way to go is to play games that aren't super-popular, which by default will have a more mature fanbase than the flavor of the month. Stuff like Guns of Icarus, Rocket League, etc.
I also like TF2, but only because as a Soldier/Demo/Heavy/Engy you are very capable of single-handedly reversing your team's fortune. Yelling into a microphone can also get kids to follow you. They don't have to be good, but they can take hits for you and with a Buff Banner they'll be moderately effective and will happily volunteer to be cannon fodder again.
>>318209458
FUK U NOOB UNINSTALL GAME
*feeds mercilessly*
WHY U FUCKING SO BAD U LET ME DIE
>SC2
>unpopular
RTSes may have dropped in popularity, but come on.
>>318208816
Does memorizing some kind of gun spread pattern require skill?
>>318209620
they are orders of magnitude less popular than shit like league.
just goes to show the masses have no taste though
>Dota more popular than CSGO
I don't think so Jim
A large portion of Dota players are foreign shit and CSGO nearly contests the top spot on Steam. And that's damn impressive for a b2p game compared to a f2p
Viewers on Twitch are consistently higher too
I'm a dotard myself, but it doesn't beat CSGO. It simply has that edge for being an FPS
>>318209502
Yeah. I like TF2 because it's easy and you can just win an entire game by yourself when you are bored.
>>318209620
>b-b-but le ded gaem maymay
>if something isn't the most popular thing ever its DEAD
Who cares what game is hard to play? you guys sucks at all of them anyway
>>318207547
ITT: somebody got ruthlessly destroyed in a LoL match
also how fucking deluded you must be to unironically think dota is more popular than csgo
>>318209832
ok not dead, but vegetative state.
>FUCKING MOBA
>ON THE SAME LEVEL AS STARCRAFT
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
>>318209607
But you where the one who went under their tower versus three people to get a kill and you didn't even get it
>>318209948
>I can't refute the point so I'll just post a stupid image and laugh
k
>>318207547
>implying DOTA and LoL require more skill than CS
>>318209948
Dota isn't a moba senpai
if you played dota you'd know this
>>318210038
he knows what he's talking about tho
you can get massively fucked easily every time in SC2 if you
-don't know exactly what you're doing at all times
-can't micro-manage every single unit by mini-groups
-don't have the hands of a korean button-mashing god
every other game you can just cheese it out with just basic knowledge
>>318207547
>Reminder that a clown can solo Heraldo
>Though people still don't pick him in ranked
>"b-but he's weak"
>Clearly never seen Shaclone's vids
>>318209502
I would drill people at L4D as I was playing. People ether raged at me and left or listened and we would win. The ones who listened almost always added me after. Then I joined a team that practiced together every day and never lost a verses game again.
added shit
>>318208347
I love smite and feel it requires more skill than both LoL and Dota. The 3rd person perspective makes map awareness much more challenging but still important and actually having to aim your auto attacks instead of just clicking on someone adds a whole new level in skill with aiming and dodging.
>>318208371
> FPS #1 takes zero skill
> FPS #2 takes all the skill
Kek, they're literally the same game, just click on the other player.
Oh hello dotards, running from the CSGOG DOMINATION? Get kek'd lately? AHAHAAHA
>>318207547
>esports
>skill
>>318211037
this us vs. them MOBA fanboyism is hilarious
You are so deluded that you actually believe that two nearly identical games aren't practically the same thing
Objective truth
>>318210031
STFU REPORTED
None of those games take skill though
Smite should be above all 3 except Starcraft 2
you are all faggot, and here is the real deal
>>318207547
I have never played a MOBA in my life but I used to win actual money in TF2 tournaments, so I have to ask - where is TF2?
>>318211812
it has its own graph
both axes are "hats"
Since these are all multiplayer games, isn't the skill required completely dependent on the skill of other players?
>>318207547
>>let's just remove everything from a rts except for the hero units and make it a new game
>DOTA TAKES AS MUCH SKILL AS A RTS GUYS
ASSFAGGOTS ARE THIS DELUSIONAL
>>318211929
very much so, and it still baffles me why people think being "stuck" at 50% win ratio is bad. when its actually placing you exactly where you should be, against equally skilled opponents.
>>318211416
Finally a game with Emotional Skill
>>318211943
>dota is just RTS with everything removed
when will this meme die.
>>318211943
Their just recovering from having literally their entire pro scene keked by one fat british man.
>>318211929
Interesting query, but each game has its own 'skills' that have to be mastered (Dragon Punch, Rocket Jump, Power Slide, optimizing movement/attack patterns/etc). A game like Quake where mastering movement is key to success has a very high skill floor by any objective measure. A game like Counter Strike where you memorize bullet spray patterns for every gun can either feel very rewarding or like playing Yahtzee. A game like DotA 2 where memorization and teamwork matter more than precision, reflexes and APM can be considerd a different type of skill, or not 'skill' at all
>>318211794
casual
>>318212147
when it stops being true
>>318212591
ok but its not true at all, dota isnt an RTS game, its a team based game with the hero units from warcraft, an original element wherby they crammed in RPG heros into an RTS game.
its more like multiplayer diablo than an RTS.
its also got almost everything to do with teamwork, something competetive RTS has basically no connection with at all.
they really are nothing alike.
tsk, fucking kids
let a grown up handle this
>SC2 takes crazy skill
these memes kek
>>318213016
you could do 2v2, 3v3, 4v4's in Starcraft though.
>>318213016
>>ok but its not true at all, dota isnt an RTS game, its a team based game with the hero units from warcraft, an original element wherby they crammed in RPG heros into an RTS game.
literally what I said
they just took the hero unit from wc3 and put 5 of them on each side
>>its more like multiplayer diablo than an RTS.
fucking lmao
>>its also got almost everything to do with teamwork, something competetive RTS has basically no connection with at all.
>i've only played starcraft 2
>StarCraft 2
>literally CoD of rts
>>>>>skill
>>318212354
So really it's about accessibility.
>>318213885
>doesn't know shit
>smug_animey_faec#5267
just another day on my favorite chan
>>318214082
If a game requires more skill, it is generally less accessible. There are only a few exceptions that can be enjoyed at the casual and competitive level (Melee, Super Monkey Ball, Trackmania, certain board games like Go). Most other games are too obtuse (Dwarf Fort) or too simple (most racing games) to be both
How do you measure "skill?"
I can't be bothered to open up Paint, so here's an ASCII graph.
SKILL REQUIRED
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| @
|
|
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|_______________*__ GAME QUALITY
@ - Any game that takes "skill"
* - Actual good video games
>>318214428
>doesn't know shit
Says the casualcraft player
>>318214953
By how hard a Candy Crush gamer would be thrashed by an average player of the game being focused on. Units of measure are ass whoopings.
But anons, Street Fighter is the most entry-level shit in fighting games and it takes more skill than SC2.
>>318215408
Entry-level in taste, not skill.
Everyone plays Street Fighter since it's kusoge, therefore it's entry-level taste.
>>318215561
>Entry-level in taste, not skill.
Yes, it's both, I cannot think of any other fighting game that requires less skill.
>>318215653
Persona 4 Arena.
>>318210836
Ive played a fuck ton of dota and got into smite recently id have to agree, though smites item pool is a lot smaller and builds are pretty standard
>>318215702
That's a party game.
>>318210836
>I love smite
>it requires more skill than [...] dota
>>318212570
>dorf is hard
Maybe for the first few hours.
>>318215792
Lets be honest here.
What actually requires skill in Dota 2? its all point and click bullshit.
"Hurr durr im playing some ghost man, lemme just press q on dis guy and then right click and jerk off while he dies" - repeat 50 times or how many heroes there are because they are all essentially point and click snorfests.
>>318215769
How can a 1v1 game be a party game?
>>318216057
By being a button-mashing fest.
>>318216030
You have to click the fast and learn how to waste your gold on stupid items that increase map awareness so you don't die from stupid deaths. Totally skillful gameplay.
>>318207547
it's
CS > Dota > SC
>>318216030
>What actually requires skill in Dota 2? its all point and click bullshit.
As opposed to Smite which totally isn't point and click.
Also if you genuinely think Smite is comparable to dota on a skill level, you're 100% clueless about Dota and I'd rather not waste my time with you.
>>318207547
>ASSFAGGOTS
>skill
That's like saying taking a dump requires skill.
>>318216331
>As opposed to Smite which totally isn't point and click.
Its not
>you're 100% clueless about Dota and I'd rather not waste my time with you.
Your essentially saying its gunna take you a while to be creative enough to make up some bullshit about how some of the point and click abilities interact or someshit. Or how if you use one AOE and stack it with another you kill the entire team.
>>318216180
You can't button mash unless someone is new enough to still be incapable of blocking all of Yu's autocombo attacks.
>>318216606GONZALO
where's melee?
>>318207547
>mobas more skill than rts or fps
>>318208816
>q3 is not popular
You just want to be a hipster without being called one.
>>318208347
>>318211467
Most everyone in smite is awful. I have almost no idea how much skill is involved because I never have teammates that can do their own job much less combo successfully. You just sorta watch your teammates make stupid decisions over and over and over and the enemy team is like jumping up and down and you jump up and down and you become a bouncing traitor because it isnt even a game anymore and you and the other 5 enemies spend the rest of the 10 minutes bouncing around the map with occacional 3s intervals where they absolutely slaughter your teammates. Feels kind of fun with teammates but I usually can only get 3 or 4 people together and the rest are retarded. All my friends quit playing it. They cant handle the casuals that plague the game especially after it joined steam. It brings back bad memories of l4d2 where you had to kick everyone constantly but you cant kick them in smite. It is a good bouncing simulator though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2UqJJB7Gw
>>318215710
They keep massively destroying items like the hog and blink which basically eliminated like 12 non-traditional jungles. I heard Anhur is getting a like 120% dmg increase on his ult or some shit because muh balance. Pretty much every new god is op as all fuck.
>>318216647
smite is all combos and cc which nobody does
if you dont go in people suicide
if you do go in nobody helps you and then blames you when you cc 4 out of 5 people and take their health to half and they walk away and your team walks away and its really just a 1v1v1v1v1v5 most games.
DOTA doesn't actually take skill. Most of the challenge of the game is because you need to learn a textbook's worth of item and character interactions.
Note that this is not good game design and doesn't mean that it's a good game.
>>318217145
The thing about smite i love is that ADCs actually have to aim their attacks and its easy to fuck up.
>>318210383
still a shitty, unbalanced game in comparison to brood war, bruh. Not exactly sure why people tote SC2 around as "good" when there's a 17 year old game that's objectively better than it.
>Dota2 takes skill
>Literal 16 year old is the absolute best
all of my lmaos
cs go should be under the line and cs 1.6 should be with dota
>>318217186
Sure, that why one team of players that knows everything about the game loses to another team that knows everything about the game, they just didn't read enough.
>>318217270
This one time I was playing anubis and the entire team jumped me and I had my cooldown maxed and I blew through all my abilities and spun in a circle hitting them with my laser and I waited for them to attack and i canceled it as soon as all of their stuff flew at me and I hit my beads to give me cc immunity and ran forward and juked almost all 20 ability casts and I was weaving back and forth with the adc and he kept missing and they all jumped on me again and I threw my abilities down on myself and all those hands reached up and killed everyone and I got a 1v5 penta kill and it was the best shit fucking ever. I wish I had recorded it.
>>318217583
>skill is measured by age
What?
Can a Dotard actually point out how Dota 2 has more "skill" over something like League or Smite?
I'v actually played all of them but i still cant get to grips over how Dota 2 actually requires more skill. Is it because of all the RNG that exists? is the skill to control your luck like in poker?
>it's popular so it's bad
omg how original and different you are, OP
I bet u get a lot of pussy like everey day lol
>>318217583
But RTZ isn't 16.
>>318217975
Here's one
>no rune control
>>318218079
serious question:
how's project M doing?
I heard they were working on some completely new characters. is this out yet?
>>318217719
That comes down to whether or not said players that lose make mistakes not really a particular show of skill on the ones that win.
>>318218079
That's not Playstation Battle Royale's logo.
>>318210575
I'm going to relive the nightmares now. Thanks anon.I made it to the finals in a tetris tournament once. I don't do well with pressure and I almost passed out and completely bombed it.
>>318213707
how often is this done in competetive starcraft?
>>318213726
>fucking lmao
its about as "lmao" as your suggestion that a game starring RPG heroes but has zero base or unit building, zero resource management and mostly focused around controlling a single unit is somehow an RTS game
>>318207547
>putting a moba above CounterStrike
get the fuck out dotard
>>318218478
What kind of bait is that? Get real.
>>318207547
>>318218431
Project M is barely doing. New update is yet to come out. Expected spring 2016.
>>318211447
what games take skill to you anon?
>mobas
>skill
>>318207547
I love how all these niggers splash shit everywhere and in every game saying they don't need skill, shit son if these or those games are so easy for you please send me all your e-sports thropys and show me all the money you made for playing this easy games DESU BAKA NIGGER
>>318210536
>winning in l4d is more important than fun
>>318223485
>b-but at least we never lost!
>>318207547
>>318207547
close, but put dota about 50-75 pixels towards league.
100% accurate
