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Why are we still so confined by 2 dimensional storage when it comes to physical releases? HDDs are 3 dimensional so why can't someone invent aspherefor writing and reading to?
4k bluray discs are coming
Why not make blu ray discs a moebius strip so you can write on both sides simultaneously?
>>318146652
that's wrong, the next storage media isDATA CRYSTALS
Why don't they just use the center of the disk? Fill up that hole.
I mean, a CD is 3D. Else it would be a plane with no thickness.
>>318146652
What the fuck are you even saying nigger
>>318147035
The CD is 3D but the 0s and 1s are recorded only on an X and Y axis.
A HDD uses platters so it also has a Z axis.
>>318147071
>>318147071
>A HDD uses platters so it also has a Z axis.
No it doesn't you fucking chimp, it has 3-5 X and Y axes.
>>318147071
Is a HDD just a stack of an equivalent of CDs then?
>>318147136
So you have a Z axis which goes to 3-5
>>318147147
Yes.
>>318147071
OP is a retard, evacuate thread
>>318146652
Because storage media like this that needs to be removed and stored easily has to compromise on a geometry that maximises available storage space, the manufacturing processes that allow it to store more data (why a 128gb sd card is more expensive for example) and ease of use/robustness.
>>318147294
I don't get it. Why can't they just tape two 64gb cards together and join the contacts?
>>318147363
Easy, it wouldn't fit in the card reader. Now if they took the plastic casing off and glued them together you might be able to do something.
Guys, i have an idea, why don't we make it like an onion, then while the drive reads the disc it can peel it to reveal more graphics!
>>318147547
It'll make the optical drive cry and the salt in the tears will corrode the circuit board
Guys
just make the disks transparent
then you can shoot the laser THROUGH the disk
Then you can put multiple data tracks in the same thickness as a single disk
it's like a lot of disks stacked on top of each other, but only takes up the same amount of space as a single disk
>>318147673
BUT, what if we use it to our advantage?
let me get to the whiteboard for a second.
>>318147529
Because the cards need to be one component. The architecture is very complex so simply joining the contacts together isnt enough. Plus that would sounle the size of the card so you wouldn't be able to insert it into a slot.
Another reaso disks havent died oit is simply because you have more space o the disk face to write information about what's stored on the disk.
>>318147786
Just glue them together so the contacts are touching each other then
>>318147741
is it going to emit radioactive on my room also?
>>318147828
Yeah, why can't there be card-adapter hybrids that would plug into each other, creating a train of storage of sorts.
>>318147935
No, all the radiation will stay in the box
if we're careful, we can catch that radiation and use it to power the system
free power!
Well, Blu-Rays (and DVDs) are 3-dimensional. The lasers adjust to different frequencies to read different layers from the disk
Why don't we all just store from the cloud?
>>318147783
>>318148226
So, what did you guys think? Not only we`ll have more space, but also energy for the entire computer/console/house!
>>318147828
That doesn't work because each card has a large selection of addresses that allow data to be read from and written to the correct location on the sd card. If you put two of the same card together and connected the contacts to each other at best you'd get two cards with the exact same info on them because all writing is done identically to the same address on each card as well as all reading. At worst, if the cards both had different things stored on them, attempting to read from an address would hive you massive data corruption.
>>318148226
Can I cum there? Is there enough salt/water in semen?
Why don't drives have a laser on the top and the bottom so we can have two-sided disks? It would double the effective transfer rate too
>>318148529
inb4 someone mentions expensive Laserdisc players that did this to prevent the need for flipping
>>318148529
Oddly enough the Friends season 1 box set does have double sided dvds. I have never seen it used since.
>>318148606
Yeah, flippers were pretty common in the early days of DVDs. Pretty sure it was mostly Warner that used them, though, and they phased them out
>>318148529
I've got plenty of double sided disks in my collection. They don't automatically flip, but it's two disks in the space of one, so I don't complain.
>>318149193
Why aren't there two-sided drives? It'd be great for games, would massively reduce seek times, loading times would be halved
(to answer my question, would probably add $10 to every console)
>>318150481
You can't make thin, sexy consoles with the added thickness of a second read head and all the hardware that goes into it.
Also, all those autoloaders take advantage of the fact that the top isn't data and don't treat them as such, so there'd have to be a change in design for them.
Also, we've got enough density on optical media that it's not really necessary. Are there any two disk ps3 games?
>>318150690
Not like the PS4/Xbone are particularly thin and sexy desu, and I doubt it would add *that* much bulk. Like, maybe half an inch?
>Are there any two disk ps3 games?
Nope. I don't think space requirements are going to increase that much going forward either. It's the improved seek times that would be the big advantage, would likey mean no more mandatory installs.
Of course, I imagine console manufacturers and publishers are going to push people onto digital rather than improving media. Perhaps if Nintendo's NX carts are successful.
>>318151017
It's a figure of speech. It'd make CD drives about twice as thick, which can really screw with the form factor. They'd also need to be slightly longer, depending on how you had the internal hardware. Also, it'd be expensive, and they'd have to produce them themselves. Most video game system's disk drives are off the shelf parts. Having a dual sided reader would mean that it'd have to be for the computer as well, or they'd have to eat the cost of making it.
Sony only really got away with sticking a blue-ray drive in the ps3 because they also made actual blue-ray players, as well as backed the format.
>>318147741
Wait, don't double-layer discs work the same?
>>318151456
Sorta.
>>318150690
MGS Legacy is 2 discs
But I'd say that doesn't count however MGS4 alone is 29gb
However ps3 had some fuckhuge games
FFXIII was 41gb, TLOU was 33gb, Uncharted 3 was 45gb, GoW:A was 45gb
Now on new consoles every big AAA game is around 40/50gb and GTAV on pc is 60gb
I'd say some games will use 2 discs but most games will try to stay within the limits of the dual-layer bluray that is 50gb
>>318152246
This gen will have less FMV and more in-game cutscenes, so will require less space, plus a lot of the reason games on blu-ray take up so much disk space is because they don't bother compressing audio and video shit because they have so much disk space to play with. They don't *need* that much space.
>>318152489
>This gen will have less FMV and more in-game cutscenes
Lots of games use prerendered video with in-game assets, look at Metal Gear Rising for example. 23gb or so, 20gb of which is video files and if it weren't for the compression artifacts and scaling you'd think it was all rendered on the go. There's no real reason not to do it this way since storage isn't really an issue at this point in time.
>>318152489
This gen already is fuckhuge without FMVs
You wanna know how big the Paris map was in AC unity? 15gb
15 gb of map
By comparison the Damascus map in AC 1 was about 700 mb
Now AC 1 had 3 cities so that should bring us to about 2gb
See the issue? Higher quality textures and more complex geometry with higher polycount raises the data size by a ton
>>318153362
Actually MGR was a different thing
The 20gb of cutscenes were because platinum likes using prerendered cutscenes to make them look better
They use in game assets but with a much more coplex lighting engine along with better shadows and effects
Think the Midel scene in FFVII where chibi Tifa and wheelchair Cloud fall into the lifestream
And they have no compression artifacts unless you're talking about the x360 version, but you're not because the x360 only has 5gb of cutscenes
The x360 has 720p compressed FMVs while ps3 and pc have 1080p FMVs with lossless compression
>>318153713
>ps3 and pc have 1080p FMVs with lossless compression
Are you sure? The cutscenes on PC look like shit compared to actual gameplay, I assumed they were all 720p.
>>318146652
blurays and dvds have layers, they are three dimensional
>>318153797
I'm pretty sure they were 1080p on both
I played it on the x360 but considering the difference in file size between the ps3 version and the x360 version (about 5gb to about 18gb) I assume it's a similar scenario to the FFXIII games, which have 1080p FMVs on ps3 abd compressed 720p on the x360
I'm checking google but I can't find it
They should just fill the hole in the middle so we can have more graphics
Did you never play MGS4
We need to make discs smaller so there's more space for grafix instead. Just like the Gamecube.
>>318146652
>multilayer
>2D
Fuck off reddit
>>318155159
>Amazing technology, now instead of switching the disk once per playthrough, you have to sit through an hour of installation.
Fuck you, Otacon.
>>318154750
>>318153797
Ok I just checked a digital foundry article and read that apprently the pc version has 720p cutscenes like the ps3 version
How do you take up 18-20 gb of space with a couple of hours of 720p video files?
Come on
>>318146652
And how would you hold it then?
>>318147071
>what are mult-layer discs
hurr
durr
>>318148606
Seen a lot of widescreen+regular dvds that have each version on a different side, doubt they're made anymore since tvs have all gone wide now.
There's also some that have special features on the other side, dunno if they're made anymore either because I haven't bought a dvd in years.
>>318154858
And it'd have tiny robot hands all around that turn the disc.
