>The Witcher with guns
>>318057107
>The Witcher with actual roleplaying where you are not forced to play as Geralt of Rivia, the witcher with a personality and background mostly set in stone
>>318057107
I'm okay with this
>>318057107
i'm ready
>>318057107
>The Witcher with a character creator and guns
fix'd
>>318057107
>The Witcher with cyborgs and an actual interest setting
Cyberpunk is neato. I like near-future supertechnocrazy dystopias
>>318057339
baiting this hard
I hope they'd take some inspiration from The Fifth Element
Bethesda makes Skyrim
CDRejekt "Hey let's make an open world game"
Bethesda makes Fallout 4 with cyberpunk undertones.
CDRejekt "Hey lets make cyberpunk game."
Get your own ideas you Polish hacks.
we already have witcher with guns, its called Fallout 4
>>318058161
why is it bait though?
>The Witcher with Fallout 1/2/Arcanum/VtM:B character creation
literally the GOAT game
>>318058161
he's right tho
>>318058581
>besthesda invented open world games and cyberpunk
>>318058493
Cyberpunk has been around since 1988.
>>318058808
>muh self insert
>I can't roleplay without muh self insert.
Fucking pleb
>>318057107
you mean deus ex with translation tools?
Everything I read about it just screamed deus ex only you had to know polish or buy an ingame translator to hear the polish characters
>>318058808
he is not. roleplaying doesn't mean you have to make the character yourself
>>318058956
being able to create characters that give you significantly different playthroughs has literally nothing to do with self-inserting
>>318057339
Making your own character is projecting yourself into the game world i.e not role playing.
>>318058956
>enjoying puddle shallow games
ok
>>318058916
Nope just made em profitable.
CDrejekts design philosophy seems to be do what Bethesda does.
>>318058956
it's hard to make your own character when the game already got you a story and personality, much like fallout 4
>>318057107
As long as you don't have to play as a character anything fucking like Geralt that is already a 10000x improvement. He's the one thing holding them back, fucking terrible dull as fuck character.
>>318059263
they also copy off Valve/Steam
>>318059126
Which is something you can do to an already generated character. Your characters looks =/= his actions.
>>318058956
I never RP as self inserts.
If anything Geralt is a self insert power fantasy, he has a blank generic kind of personality so people can easily self insert and imagine themselves doing all these heroic things and banging all these hot chicks.
I hope you can dress like this
>>318059547
It's still limited compared to true character creation
in Arcanum I can play as a rogueish female half-elf, a scheming kike tech gnome or an unlucky orc with a heart of gold and roleplay each character to my hearts content within the universe, it has nothing to do with self-inserting
>>318058581
>bethesda
>cyberpunk
nigga wat
>>318059912
He said undertones. Fallout 4's shit with memories being something you can hack, transhumanism, etc, those are cyperpunk themes in a non cyperpunk setting.
He wasn't being serious though, obviously.
>>318058929
>1988.
>Bladerunner release date - 1982
>Neuromancer release date - 1984
>Do androids dream of electric sheep release date - 1968
>Akira manga started it's run in 1982
Yeah. No.
somethingelse
honestly can't wait tbhwy senpai
>>318057339
I fucking hate self insert faggots like you
Please kill yourself before christmas
>>318060647
The tabltop game that 2077 is based on is Cyberpunk 2020, released in 1988.
>>318060647
Cyperpunk is way older than that
>>318059149
I play the role I desire, why don't you go roll on a dick!
>>318058581
>Fallout 4
>cyberpunk undertones
>>318058581
Where are the cyberpunk undertones in F4?
>>318057107
As long as the gameplay isn't Witcher tier, this is fine.
![KPH69GJ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3wnmpqd.jpg "KPH69GJ[1].jpg")
>>318061349
>>318061395
>>318061487
Androids are cyberpunk?
>>318061487
That's not cyberpunk you retard. Stop trying.
>>318060049
>Fallout 4's shit with memories being something you can hack, transhumanism, etc, those are cyperpunk themes in a non cyperpunk setting.
I'm gonna fucking kill Todd if that is true.
>>318062160
W-why? What's wrong with using themes from one genre in another? They are not that clearly fucking delineated, the book that pretty much invented the cyperpunk aesthetic, Tiger Tiger, had a fuckton of different shit going on in it.
>>318059149
BRB finding a D&D group to tell them they're not role playing because they made their characters. Thanks for the enlightenment anon.
>>318064363
You're welcome.
>>318057107
I'd buy it. But that's not what it's going to be faggot.
>>318058581
>Fallout
>Cyberpunk
Fucking what? Fuck off Bethshill. Cyberpunk the ttRPG 2077 is based off of existed long before Fallout.
>>318057107
I can work with that.
>>318057107
All I want to do is play as a psychotic cyborg Cop who uses braindances to escape from her PTSD fueled existence. If I can do that it's a Day 1 buy for me.
>>318060647
You're confusing the name of a game with the genre.
cyberpunk 2077 is most anticipated game of the decade, once the trailers start coming get ready for a wild hype train
>>318058581
Except this is wrong because CDPR decided to make Cyberpunk well before anyone knew anything about F04
Why are you so salty at CDPR anyway?
>>318065612
>Responding to bait
Why would you do this?
Bioware makes Dragon Age
CDRejekt "Hey let's make an open world game"
Bioware makes Mass Effect with cyberpunk overtones
CDRejekt "Hey lets make cyberpunk game."
Get your own ideas you Polish hacks.
>The Witcher with guns
Sing me the fuck up
>>318065713
>Fantasy and Sci-Fi games are exclusive to BioWare
>>318065584
No fucking kidding. The teaser got a million more views since the last time I watched it, it's at8 million now. That's more than any of the Witcher trailers. Could be the ME1 for this gen, hopefully it's good and doesn't have a shitty ending.
Id be lying if I said I wasn't hyped for a custom protagonist cyberpunk RPG. I like Jensen, Thorton, and Geralt, but I've always preferred custom to preset.
>>318058581
bethesda fucking sucks at doing anything
>>318065947
I prefer mass effect or witcher style protagonist, but will see once we get more details about the game in couple years.
>bethesda makes a poo
>cdpr watches them
>we all watch them
>bethesda has poo copyrighted
>none of us can poo
>my friend jed bracket dies of shit stuckingness
I'm interested to see what the gameplay will be like since I'm fairly sure that CDPR can write a good story if they try to. Whether they can make guns that are satisfying to use is another matter.
>>318059149
You do realize that people RP characters they've personally made up yet do not represent themselves
and that this is exactly what roleplaying is
10/10
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
>>318066561
there are many systems where you roll a dice to see who you're playing
>>318066502
bioware managed to make pretty fun gunplay so im pretty sure cdpr can manage it
got to remember geralt had specific fighting style dictated by the books so it was restricted
>>318057848
This. It's the sort of game I've wanted ever since I played Shadowrun on the Genesis in the 90s and wished it didn't have faggy magic and fantasy elements.
>>318066164
The problem with Shepard is that he started off as a brick with no personality, which you got complete control over. Then in 3 they tried to make him into a Jensen or Geralt, a character you've got a degree of control over, but whom also has a personality, relationships, and opinions on things that you don't get control over. It was an extremely jarring change, with the worst case being Thessia, after you lose to Kai Leng and Shepard cries about the poor Asari, and how he "lost". It was extremely jarring to see that change, so I hope CDPR remains consistent.
>>318066661
I want to see whether they've gone for the more RPG style approach or the more realistic approach as to how lethal guns are. I suspect that they're going to take the RPG approach (so people won't necessarily die quickly if you shoot them in the head), but I generally prefer games where both the player and enemies take can be killed quickly if they make a mistake.
>>318057107
The Witcher actually came out
>>318067034
given its a mainstream open world game I think we know what route they'll take
>>318066884
cdpr has made several deep well written characters in witcher series, they'll be fine in the character personality respect
>>318057339
>Implying that's not the best thing about the series
>>318057107
>>318057107
>The Witcher with guns
can I buy escorts every town/inn?
is another empty open world?
>>318067236
As long as it doesn't have as much of a bullet sponge problem as Fallout does on higher difficulties.
>>318057339
You don't always have to self-insert to role play you moron
If you rp as a criminal do you go out and steal some bikes like the nigger I know you are?
>>318067352
True. They've got Pondsmith working with them also, so maybe they'll finally get the dates of stuff right.
>>318068045
I'm not sure how much Pondsmith will be involved in development of the video game itself because I assume he's there primarily over Cyberpunk 2077 aka the new edition of his roleplaying game.
>>318068493
It'd be cool if they got him in a Narrator like role similair to Ron Pearlman for Fallout. Dude has a great voice.
>>318066561
and playing a given role is not roleplaying?
>>318058581
>fallout
>cyberpunk
>>318057848
agreed, I like witcher 3 for the good quests and the story is okay too, but the setting is pretty bland and generic fantasy imo.
>>318058581
>Bethesda
>Makes Fallout
>Cyberpunk
It's like you tried to make your post as retarded as possible. Great job!
>>318065242
Is she going to kill her, or fuck her? Or both?
>>318069286
I'd say so, but I'd also say that not having a preset opens up the roles people CAN play. A role playing game should allow you to play as many roles as you can. I loved Geralt, but I'd love a game set in the Witcherverse that gave you more control and let you define that character more. That's why I'm hoping for a Mage game after Cyberpunk.
>>318069745
Neither. She's going to recruit her. That's what the PsychoSquad does, forcibly recruits dangerous psychos and makes them take down other dangerous psychos.
>>318059469
I will never understand this complaint. Sure he isn't as good and complex as he is in the books but he's still a pretty good video game protagonist.
Perosnally I am pretty hyped for Cyberpunk though I want to see cdpr make their own unvierse. Maybe they will do it after a few cyberpunk games.
>>318070272
Geralt definitely wasn't one of Witcher 3 main weaknesses. He was voiced pretty good, and the character was good for the game and the setting. Pacing and the monotonous combat is what really diminished the greatness of W3.
>>318070272
What would you even want them to make? A space opera would be kind of cool since Mass Effect is completely fucked, but I don't see how it could manage to feel original.
>>318069938
I think a game with a predefined role makes the game have better writing.
>>318070492
How do you improve pacing in an open world game?
>>318070645
By making it less of an open world game.
>>318070585
Bioware with mass effect clearly spent a lot of resources to make female char, kinda shame really. It wouldve been great game to have the 1 predefined char.
I hope not
>>318070059
actually they rarely recruit like that. most of the time they just splatter their brains on the pavement and call it a day.
>>318070497
By original I just meant their own unvierse that they created. With the witcher they literally just copy pasta from the books and the already established unvierse while adding a few tidbits here and there. I know next to nothing about the cyberpunk setting but I assume it will be the same. That's fine and all as I love their games but I just want to see what they could come up with on their own whether it be a space opera or something else.
>>318070585
Sometimes. DA2 didn't for instance. However the trade off is better writing for less freedom. It's a balancing act.
>>318071064
>With the witcher they literally just copy pasta from the books and the already established unvierse while adding a few tidbits here and there.
Only in the first game, really. Second game was entirely CDPR and third used more elements to bring closure to events from the books. I don't really care though because something being good is more important to me than it being original. Look at Pillars of Eternity and how safe Obsidian played it setting-wise, for example.
>>318071848
Fallout 1 and 2 were good examples of where you can do both. Fallout 4 was a good example where you can achieve neither.
>>318071848
DA2 was just an ineptly made game with a tight budget and timetable, both with which Bioware simply had no experience working with and it showed. It's a great idea though, following one semi-defined character for a decade in one city and seeing it all change with time. Problem was Bioware fumbling pretty much everything except sarcastic asshole personality Hawke.
>>318071991
The second game took alot from the books. The main plot is basically just a retelling of thanedd and the events before and after it with letho being Vilgefortz while the mages were the kings and Triss has Yen's role, she literally has the same stuff that happens to Yen in the books happens to her over the course of the game. And the main people behind the plot once again happen to be Nilfgaard. The second game isn't as original as you think it is. Not that it matters as it still was a great game.
>>318072661
not the same guy, but obviously. you still have to operate within the setting. point being it wasn't such a blatant job/homage the first game was which pretty much just copy-pasted short stories and held them together with a loose narrative.
>>318057107
From the damn messages I already see excessive appeal to nudity and gore.
There is nothing wrong with those two elements in games, but if you are throwing both at the COVER, that means your game has no content at all so stand on its own and the developers just need some panties and blood to make people (ahem, people with no critical thinking) enjoy it.
Of course I could just be wrong, but if their best game cover idea is portraying a character full of blood and almost naked, that REALLY tells something about what the game has to offer.
>>318073637
1. That's not the game cover. We don't know what the game cover is.
2. Poles don't consider blood or nudity to be "pandering" because they're not Puritans. Shits just a part of life so they include it to make their games feel more authentic.
3. We know nothing about the game. It's too early to be making judgements when all we have is a 3 year old CGI trailer.
>>318073637(you)
Sue me, but why did they insist upon a bottomless woman for their advertising? I loathe the SJW crowd but on this sort of thing they have a point: there needn't be pointless stuff like this in games.
>>318073929
>That's not the game cover
Welp ignore all I said then
>muh nudity and blood is a common to them...
Just how many fedoras can someone type while saying that? "Oh my life is full of blood and pussy xD there's nothing else to it really....... now stop annoying me kid or else I will sheathe my katana...."?
>We know nothing about the game
True. If the picture at OP is fan-made, disregard all I said. But if it was something meaningful like the trailer's cover or something, I don't expect anything other than an empty shell full of panties and gore. I watch anime regularly, anon, I know really well how to spot this kind of media, anime is bloated with it.
>>318074335
Exactly my point. But shills like this: >318073935 will defend it because muh panties and muh (You).
>>318073929
Nudity is fine if used in a realistic context. Sitting a female character that could be doing literally anything into the middle of an ad without any pants on isn't that sort of context.
Characters could use the restroom in full, unobstructed view of the camera and I'd be alright by that, same as dressing or undressing: this is a part of life. An ad for a game is not the same sort of thing as depicting a "slice of life" scene.
Mature themed game with sex and nudity, do you expect it to be marketed like a family friendly product?
>>318074617
>I watch anime regularly, anon, I know really well how to spot this kind of media, anime is bloated with it
ok
>>318074795
No, but there are other ways to show it than this.
>mature games for mature gamers such as myself
That's all I'm getting from this current advertising "campaign."
>>318074335
See the marks on her thighs? Pants were ripped to shreds when she went psycho, most likely.
>>318074795
Yes??
Pic related, a mature game full of blood that uses it without pandering. There's a scene where a little girl is basically covered by her mother's blood entirely, she breaks and just keeps looking while shaking. Yet the game doesn't use this as a selling point to pander to gore lovers. It comes as a surprise.
Of course, gaming "evolved". Now every game must have some fap material. I don't get why they advertise the gore but apparently it helps selling copies? Meh.
PERSONAL
>>318070272
If he is the kind of character you like to roll in RPGs, then good for you. For other people he's the exact opposite of that.
For me personally he's the perfect cocktail of the most unappealing protagonist imaginable. I'd actually PREFER an amnesiac mute to this guy. Everything else about the games is pretty good.
>>318074617
>Just how many fedoras can someone type while saying that? "Oh my life is full of blood and pussy xD there's nothing else to it really....... now stop annoying me kid or else I will sheathe my katana...."?
Anon. It's fucking Cyberpunk. It's a world that's hedonistic and violent as fuck because morals have been eroded by rampant consumerism. Cyberpunk genre CRITICIZES that by showing the extreme of consumerism and breakdown of morals.
Nudity and blood are some of the tamest shit you can see in Night City.
>>318075187
So you think that psycho killer that just killed several people with armblades should not have any blood on her?
Because it's "advertising the gore".
>>318074617
>I watch anime regularly
>>318072094
>Being so stupid to think Fallout 1,2 and 4 are any different.
They both give you a predetermined backstory and a mission that you HAVE to complete to finish the game.
Then you are unleashed on the world to do whatever the fuck you want.
>>318075394
>>318075469
>b-but... they never met anything different...
>*takes fedora off* under night's veil... one hero never closes her eyes...
>she never closes her eyes to a society full of consumerism... oh, the evil capitalism...
>no morals... just pussy and gore!! xDDD actually pussy and gore are the tamest things here xDDD
>youre in for a wild ride, panties and blood lol so cyber xD so punk xD
holy shit not even the chills can make this game sound good
I think LISA has the same concept but nudity and gore are not really advertised as their selling point, which happens to be the case with Cyberpunk. The idea of a game where morals don't exist and the world is full of immorality, nudity, drugs and blood is present in several games that are advertised normally. See pic related.
>>318075662
>I'll mock people who watch anime despite this being a Wapanese board created around anime
>>318074637
>Nudity is fine if used in a realistic context. Sitting a female character that could be doing literally anything into the middle of an ad without any pants on isn't that sort of context.
She's from the trailer. She's in that position to show that cyborgs can go Psycho at any moment. Whether she was a prostitute or just at home sleeping doesn't matter. Psychosis hit and she went on a rampage and slaughtered a bunch of people.
At the end of the trailer she wakes up in the squad car wearing full armor and a helmet like her male counterpart. She's not wearing bikini armor. I believe the intention is to keep the viewer guessing whether what we saw was a dream, a memory, or a vision of the future.
>>318076048
Shit, posted the wrong pic related
>>318075912
And in Fallout 4 you don't even get to decide what your character's personality is like. In Fallout 1 and 2 all they fix for you is where you came from (Vault 13/Arroyo) and that you are given the task of saving one of the above.
The equivalent in Fallout 4 would be if they set that you are from Sanctuary Hills, but left the rest to you.
>>318076048
You're a fucking moron. None of that shit is portrayed as good, dumbass. Cyberpunk is a dystopian genre.
>redkit is never coming
>1 more expansion
w3 had so much wasted potential
>>318076263
I never said it was portrayed as good. I said that it's all the game has to offer, or else it wouldn't be the selling point at the ads.
When creating the ad of a game, you naturally want to exalt the strongest points while diminishing the weaker points. That advertisement is literally a bottomless woman full of blood. That's all the game has going for it. And the chills saying "LOL BUT... PUSSY AND BLOOD ARE THE TAMEST THINGS YOU'LL FIND IN THIS GAME :)))" just prove my point.
>>318076048
>Watches anime
>Thinks cyberpunk is fedora
Heh... Nothing personal kid... Just appreciating Japanese culture... Purely from an artistic standpoint kid...
>>318074335
Because why not?
>>318076351
2 expansions that total 30 hours is more then enough but yeah it's a shame about redkit
>>318057107
>The Witcher withPERSONALRESPONSIBILITY
>>318076450
How is watching anime any fedora? And since when do I appreciate Japanese culture? I like the food, their music and anime is pretty good, the games are amazing as well. But I hate almost everything else. The clothes, the folklore, even their history overall makes me want to sleep.
>>318076418
It's a fucking CGI teaser retard. It was made to gauge interest and recruit new team members. You're not even playing as a member of the squad. Christ you are fucking stupid and have no idea at all what you're talking about.
>>318076052
Nah she still has the bullet scar where it scraped her cheek in the squad car so I'm guessing they rebooted her to be on the police force after she went all murder happy.
>>318074335
to have a shocking image.
the mixture pf sex and violence have always been pretty effective to get attention.
plus I think story wise she is supposed to be a sex robot that somebody modified to kill people.
>>318076671
>yes you have a point
>but... PLOT TWIST! THIS WAS NOT AN AD! IT WAS JUST MEANT TO ATTRACT POPULARITY AND TEAM MEMBERS! TOTALLY NOT AN AD! HAHAHA
Go back to Reddit lmao
>>318076614
>I like the food, their music and anime is pretty good, the games are amazing as well. But I hate almost everything else. The clothes, the folklore, even their history overall makes me want to sleep.
Heh... So sophisticated... I'm too deep even for the Japanese... There's no culture on Earth that can hold my attention... I'm not made for the same experiences as the rest of the sheeple...
>>318076864
I like my own culture though (I'm from Brazil)
And Brazil's culture is exponentially less sophisticated than Japan's
>>318076838
That's Firo Prochainezo from Baccano, what's your point?
>>318076832
>Meant to gauage interest
>HAHAHAHAHA YOU SAID IT'S NOT AN AD, I CAN'T READ
It's time to stop posting. The teaser is not representative of the final product. You are a moron for acting like it is.
>>318077098
>this piece of media meant to attract costumers and team members is not an ad, it is just... it's something unique and never seen before!
>well, you'd be right if it was an ad, but it's not!
>I won't admit I am wrong or else I'll lose my 4chan points!
k
>>318077001
>from Brazil
>shits on Cyberpunk for being nudity and gore
>>318077098
Anyone who thinks a CG trailer made before development of the game even started is the same kind of person who shouts downgrade after a few super early game shots (bullshots / engine tests) isn't what the final game looks like.
>>318076806
No, it's a person who has gone batshit due to having cyberized too much of her body and went on a killing spree. She gets picked up by the Psycho squad, which is a specialised force that is supposed to stop other heavily cyberized people when they go batshit.
>>318077001
>Brazil
Ah a hue. Explains the shitposting now. Don't know why you're so triggered by blood and nudity, and you should know what I meant when I said there are worse things than those two things. Your country is full of them.
>>318076418
>When creating the ad of a game-
Oh boy. Do we have a marketing director in the thread? What have you worked on?
>>318076614
>even their history overall makes me want to sleep.
i will fucking fight you you little cunt
>>318066654
Not many. Just the bad ones tbqh.
>>318069286
Sure, so Mario games are RPGs because you're playing the role of Mario right?
>>318077475
>I don't know how ads work
>let me use some appeal to authority here
Cyberpunk chills are the worst
Is CDProjekt the next Besthesda?
>>318076246
Except they do, the only difference is because you are Pre-War you aren't some neet /v/irgin, you have a job and family.
Then you go to the vault. You do the actions to get out and then you can be as much of an Edgelord as you want.
>>318077198
But that's thing moron. I never said it wasn't an ad. I said it wasn't representative of the final product. It shows off no in-engine footage, reveals no plot details, and was made for the purposes of seeing if anyone would BUY the game, and if anyone would MAKE the game. It is a bunch of still shots and a rotating camera.
You are a retard for claiming that
>THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL IT WITH BLOOD AND BOOBIES
>Haha but I'm too sophisticated for that
When they have yet to show off anything substantial about the game at all.
>>318074617
>I watch anime regularly
>>318077691
>I never said it wasn't an AD
(5 minutes before)
>IT'S A FUCKING CGI TEASER NOT AN AD REEEE
Kek
>>318077365
why would anybody that isn´t a mercenary get weird blade arm cybernatics?
especially a women that looks like she is some kind of prostituted or dancer
>>318077584
>let me scream about fallacies and chill
kek
I'm not going to fuck you, Anon, I'm waiting for you to type something that doesn't read like an upset soccer moms blog
>>318077838
>>IT'S A FUCKING CGI TEASER NOT AN AD REEEE
Never said it wasn't an ad. I said
>It's a fucking CGI teaser retard. It was made to gauge interest and recruit new team members. You're not even playing as a member of the squad. Christ you are fucking stupid and have no idea at all what you're talking about.
Because you were using a CGI teaser from 3 years ago to judge the final product. When CDPR hadn't even started making the game, because the teaser was meant to see if there was any interest.
It's time to stop posting hue. Why don't you go watch Kill La Kill? That's so much more sophisticated for euphoric individuals like yourself.
I sure hope we get a lot of customization options regarding cybernetic limb replacement and just general cybernetics.
>>318076476
See, now THAT was encouraging.
I still think there was no reason for having her without pants- none- when you could put her in any situation you wanted, but it does make for a striking scene.
>>318077901
she could be mercenary working undercover as prostitute
or she could have not get them willingly
>>318078442
They've said there will be, they had a talk a while ago about how much more complex Cyberpunk is to Witcher due to both the protagonist and the setting.
>>318078172
That teaser, this promo art ad, and a handful of of interviews are essentially all we have to go on. The teaser and ad are all we have to go on so far as visual style. Of course we're going to judge the product based upon what we have- it's all we have.
>>318057107
But the witcher is a game series that exists and is released? Does Gerry disappear and is never heard from again and I'm missing the joke here?
>>318078918
I'm also interested on how they plan to implement the mechanic which limits how much cyberware you can have in your body or how much of it you can replace. I know that's what causes the psycho-breaks.
>>318078972
>Of course we're going to judge the product based upon what we have- it's all we have.
What product?
>>318079180
"Cyberpunk" itself.
>>318074961
Then don't fucking buy it you stupid SJW toddler.
>>318079010
Fallout 3 was called "Oblivion with guns" before the release.
>>318057339
>People keep saying this.
>It'll turn out you'll play Morgan Blackhand, who's been kept in cryo for 50 years.
>Alt Cunningham will show up and be even more annoying than Angel in Borderlands 1&2.
The only thing worse than DMPCs is RPG Writer PCs.
Though the ones for Cyberpunk were never nearly as bad as the ones for Deadlands or Forgotten Realms.
>>318076476
>SJWs literally on the same level as goose-stepping Germans
>>318079458
>SJW toddler
Look, bub, not getting why you'd depict a psychotic cyborg without pants when there's no reason for her to be without them doesn't make a SJW out of anyone.
>>318079496
and during and after the release
>>318061187
>I play the role I desire
>>318079690
They did try to push that agenda pretty hard in the interview, huh? No, giving a person choices is not inherently discriminatory. Bizarre response on their part to suggest that.
>>318074961
Don't buy it then faggot.
>>318066809
>Shadowrun on the Genesis
I feel bad for you, the Super Nintendo version was Supreme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHmLVjnEjYs
>>318079773
>Look, bub, not getting why you'd depict a psychotic cyborg without pants when there's no reason for her to be without them doesn't make a SJW out of anyone.
Who said there's no reason? Did you make the trailer? Are you fucking familiar with the design choices behind it?
>>318079773
Why does there need to be a reason? They don't have to justify anything to you. They could make her completely nude or wrapped in a burka. What difference does her state of dress make?
>>318068493
>new edition
>wanting this
Yeah boy sure can't wait for yet another edition of ridiculous skill bloat in the system that set the cliche of "hacking rules so drawn out and overcomplicated the rest of the group orders pizza while the hacker opens a door"
There's a reason the cyberpunk setting with fucking magical elves and a dragon presidential candidate won out in the end.
>>318080173
thing is normally if the ad offends ppl, they ignore it and dont buy the product
Now we live in an age where the ad is problematic and has to be changed.
>>318080525
Why is depicting a psychotic cyborg without pants offending to you?
>>318080038
Genesis SR was more sandboxy and matrix running was fantastic, far better than SNES (from what I've heard). You could deck in at any time to a random node to steal data to sell.
>>318080173
Of course they don't, but I find it off-putting. We both know games have a reputation for pandering to a male audience with sex. Cyperpunk's devs *acknowledge* this history and disparage it and any companies today which engage in that sort of thing. So they're telling me that this isn't what they're doing. And yet, for some reason, we have a girl with no pants on sitting in the middle of a street. It's quite the memorable image and serves to generate discussion like this thread here but... You could have had pants on- a dress maybe, if you were still wanting to cut this as a pretty girl before panning back and giving us a good luck at the abomination that is her arms- with similar effect, I think.
Taking her pants off brings the game (what we know of it so far) too close to the sort of pandering the devs say they're trying to avoid. I don't think this is "disrespectful" in any way, really- this isn't a SJW thing on behalf of all women everywhere or any such nonsense. I'm not even questioning the game's art style, unless of course "women without pants" is the art style.
My point is that any games coming out help to make the atmosphere of the industry, and this is a high profile game. You advertise the game the sort of way that people keep insisting that games aren't like and it sends the wrong message.
>>318081024
Because it's a woman, without pants for some reason, meant to sell me on buying a video game.
>>318081593
It's a cyborg.
Do you complain about Robocop not wearing pants?
>>318057107
will buy the shit out of it
thank you based steam for the FO4 refund
that was a pretty shitty game
>>318057107
I'm going to assume that's a sexbot because of the way it's dressed. But I don't see why a sexbot would need sharp metal things that fold into its forearms. I also dont see why police are shooting at a robot that is very clearly not effected by bullets in the trailer.
If this concept design is anything to go by, which it is because the devs seem to be marketing the game on this single piece of artwork, the game is going to be shit.
>>318081739
If the cyborg in question had robot legs rather than human ones, I'd say you had a point. Robocop isn't wearing pants and doesn't need pants. I'd definitely question a robo dong being part of his design- another "Why would you do this when you could design it any other way?" decision.
Case in point: the cockpit for the orbital frames in "Zone of the Enders," one of my favorite games, is literally where a cock would be on a human. Why would you design the "character" you pilot for the entire game this way? You can pilot the orbital frame from a cockpit in the chest, the head, but why on earth did you give the robot a massive penis you pilot it through?!
>>318082141
see the https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4zyoIAzmdsgpDZQfO1-lSA videos and come back to comment
>>318065242
now i kinda want those praying mantis like claws
why isn't technology there yet...
>>318081445
>for some reason, we have a girl with no pants on sitting in the middle of a street
When I watched that trailer for the first time I assumed she was an escort/call girl on a party that went too wild.
>>318057107
CDPR does quest lines so bad, it's the most extreme form of handholding, even for AAA standards. Everything screams at you, might as well have a clippy telling you exactly what to do, everything is so streamlined and outcomes are like in a bad sitcom, this emulation of bad cinema is something normalfags go crazy for instead of demanding interactivity, exploration.
Even the open world is mapped out with places of interest beforehand. It will probably have less mannish faces than Eidos Montreal's abominations...
>>318067034
The combat rules for the original tabletop RPG were pretty notorious for their lethality. Unless you were a character geared for combat you had a good chance of dying. Only way for hacker/face type characters to survive a fight was to hide somewhere while the Solos gunned things down.
>>318082779
>the most extreme form of handholding, even for AAA standards.
False. You usually get a choice for even basic quests. With Bioware and Bethesda you don't even get that, just fetch/kill x and +10 Power/Caps
>>318082208
The cyborg in question does have robot legs. In fact it looks like most of her body is replaced which is probably why she went psycho.
>>318068493
>>318080263
He spent a good chunk of time over in Poland talking to CDPR, which is why Mekton Zero has been delayed out the fucking ass.
Mekton Zero is supposed to be his next game, which is supposed to be a more simplified version of Mekton Zeta.
>>318082246
I saw a title reveal, a teaser which I already referred to in my original post, and the ip creator talking about the game that he is not even developing himself.
Was there some enlightening piece of information that should've made me hype for this game? Cause I didn't see any.
>>318082141
This is exactly what I'm talking about. The initial takeaway, for a lot of people, is that this is a sex bot we're seeing. If it's not, why doesn't she have pants on? If it is, why depict this, when you could have depicted anyone, anything else, and make it just as striking a scene? Without pants, you're tossing in a lot of subtext and history you could have avoided.
This isn't nearly as much an issue if there's context for the lack of pants. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, I'd be 100% a-ok with a character of any gender or anywhere in-between taking a crap on screen, a shower, changing clothes, the works, just so long as it had a reason other than fan-service. Dragonball had fanservice, with Bulma showering, etc; Parasite Eve II had fanservice, with Aya taking a shower in a cutscene that consisted almost entirely of her taking a shower; other games and TV shows since then have had characters having sex, a part of life. They have had characters taking a shower after a long day and thinking over something that happened. This works. Having no pants on for shock value- what this seems to be- there's no reason for that if you're suggesting your game has any more value than that.
>>318082978
>choice
you mean you usually get to choose which a-b-c questline you get railroaded into. their questlines have no exploration, you just
>go here
>now go here
>do you want to do this or that
>now go here
>spare him y/n
etc
it's dayz meets a visual novel. and since everyone just stands blankly one opposite another, you get peter jackson tier cinematography. at least bioware had hilarious bloodsplattered faces.
>>318081445
>My point is that any games coming out help to make the atmosphere of the industry, and this is a high profile game. You advertise the game the sort of way that people keep insisting that games aren't like and it sends the wrong message.
>Wrong message
Which is... What? Women are treated as objects? In a cyberpunk game they are. People in general are seen as "assets" or "obstacles" not as people.
If CDPR makes a game where women are treated as objects, that does not mean CDPR condones said treatment, just like rape in FNV didn't mean Obsidian supported rape.
>>318083228
I also doesn't help that the devs seem to be marketing the game entirely on that single image.
>>318083356
>Simplifying things to their bare mechanics makes them boring!
Nice try retard. DE:HR's quests followed the exact same formula you outlined. So do PS:T, BG, pretty much every RPG ever. You go somewhere and your given choices. Thanks for pointing that out.
>>318083745
>the FO drones are losing
purge this thread
>>318083641
>devs seem to be marketing the game entirely on that single image
Except there is no game and no marketing.
>>318083007
Yes, I notice that her arms are colored to look like skin. We have to consider the public here though.We're looking at a human with robot parts, not a robot that looks human. She's got human-looking legs and is, thus, pants-less. To go on an extreme, we can't have hardcore porn involving folks that are, in-universe, supposed to be robots and write it off as "It's OK, folks, they're robots so there's nothing remotely offensive here." If people think they're looking at a person, they're looking at a person. Robocop doesn't need pants because he's not human-enough to warrant them.
>>318083228
>The initial takeaway, for a lot of people, is that this is a sex bot we're seeing.
For all we know there's a human brain in that metal skull that's been driven absolutely fruit loops by the near-total replacement of her body with machinery.
But I reckon they chose the 'sexy' body to create such a massive contrast between it and the blood-soaked arm knives, pile of corpses and cops attempting to shoot her to bits. It's quite an effective image, really.
>>318057107
So shitty uninspired point and click bio ware trash
>>318083986
>human with robot parts, not a robot that looks human
>robot arms
>robot legs
>robot head
It looks to be more robot than human.
>>318058581
Even though this is bait, Cyberpunk 2077 was in the works before Fallout 4, fucking mongoloid.
>>318083641
Precisely.
>>318083745
Toughest of the tough. Sure showed me. Take my money, my wife, and my house while you're at it- have anything you like, just don't show me that hard again.
It's my opinion, Anon. You sure get your panties in a bunch easily.
>>318083819
>pretty much every RPG ever
>every RPG ever has the same text-based branching points
you need to learn about different methods of interactive storytelling and what it means to realize a choice and to be presented with one without research other than going from a to b.
>>318084321
Cite some examples than. I'm all ears.
>>318083959
Yes, there is. It's in development.
The teaser we're discussing? That's marketing.
Industry-standard stuff.
>>318057107
Aka the perfect game vol. 2? I'm sold.
>>318057848
Same. I've always found futuristic settings way more fun than medieval stuff.
robots>magic
>>318083228
The point of her being dressed like that is exactly to contrast with her arm blades and the bodies around her. It's about external beauty hiding something deadly, similarly to how the cyberpunk setting is about the wonders of technology hiding the grime of corruption.
>>318083641
The game was barely in development when that trailer was made and just now CDPR started moving teams from Witcher 3 to CP2077, the main point of the trailer was to get devs interested in working with them, not to market the game to gamers.
I'm excited as fuck for this game, but as a guy who has played so many cyberpunk/shadowrun campaigns that he fears and respects water pistols, this really does make me worry when I think about the source material.
Psycho Squads are pretty much the rocks fall and you die of cyberpunk/shadowrun, insanely over the top and ridiculously powerful. They tend to be purely about action too, just murder and mayhem.
I don't really see a squad of mind-wiped lunatics so dangerous they are kept sedated 90% of the time meshing well with a story driven campaign that's being touted as having morally grey choices. These aren't the kind of guys that think or care about their situation, they just wake up, get let out of a their restraints and kill mindlessly until their fail-safe switches are activated or they die.
>>318084441
Teaser that was made few years ago and has nothing to do with game itself.
>>318083641
Except... There is no marketing. And it's not the only image. I literally googled Cyberpunk 2077 and this came up. It's actual concept art. Are you retarded?>>318084305
Replying to yourself anon?
>>318084232
She doesn't look at all human to you? Not even remotely enough for you to say "That's a woman without pants" in SOME part of your brain?
Just found this too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71PGfpPg-v8
>>318057339
There's like a ton of games where you can play as a fucking blank slate. What is wrong with playing with an established character?
>>318081365
The Matrix was pretty dull in the Super Nintendo but it works alright. I prefer the story of the SNES version.
I wish they made another multiplayer Shadowrun game. That shit was so cash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rZEYLNg3gs
>>318084789
She looks humanoid but not human.
>>318084708
Concept art is fine. But it isn't necesarilly marketing. OP's image accompanies a hell of a lot of discussion about this game and is part of the teaser trailer. That's advertising.
As to the "replying to yourself" bit, the post I was responding to has since been deleted. It depicted a dog being killed with a shovel (actual footage of this). Blame the mods if you like.
>>318084789
You're a good troll or you're stubborn as hell.
Either way, have yourself a good day. Not getting either of us anywhere to keep discussing this.
>>318057107
>>318065242
I don't know why, but I'm always bothered when I see the swords coming out of their arms. It's such an incredibly shitty placement for a bladed weapon. It's at an awkward, inconvenient angle. If it weren't for the fact that they're robots, it'd be almost impossible to put any significant force behind it.
>>318084305
Nobody fucking cares about your shitty opinion here. Go on leddit if you want le progressive upboats or tumblr if you want to push shit like this. You're just a typical fucking feminist shitting up threads crying about "misogyny" and how every bit of sexuality is "pandering to males" and how this is supposed to be a bad thing and "affects the atmosphere of the industry". You don't even know the context, so you're literally getting butthurt about fucking promotional art which is supposed to be striking. Go hang yourself.
>>318085086
>The image people use in the OP of a thread on 4chan counts as CDPR marketing
I think it's time you grew thicker skin.
>>318085221
Force comes from the legs anon
Nintendo makes Mario Galaxy
CDRejekt "Hey let's make an open world game"
Nintendo makes Mario Galaxy 2
CDRejekt "Hey let's make cyberpunk game."
Get your own ideas you Polish hacks.
>>318085221
You don't need significant force if you just stab people when they don't expect it.
>>318085409
That's why you're responding? Because you don't care?
Say what you want, man. I am not SJW. I'd take issue with a KFC ad that depicted two Chihuahuas fucking in a mock Taco Bell. It'd be a damned ballsy ad, and very striking, but there's still the same WTF factor involved. You could have done anything else and yet you spent hundreds on depicting that.
>>318085627
it actually being robot makes the reasoning pointless
its robot blade arms
>>318084405
you were being rude and seem to lack understanding sufficient for the conversation to be entertaining for myself. but if you think a bit about it you will probably make an assumption that probably not every single RPG has quest progression system identical to witcher's.
don't call people retards because you lack understanding and because they don't like what you find entertaining.
>>318081445
>serves to generate discussion like this thread here
You're the only one "discussing" this.
Either masterbaitor or artism.
>>318085470
That doesn't matter. With the way it's angled, there's just no good way to swing that thing.
>>318085627
It's pretty fucking conspicuous for a stealth weapon. And even if that's the case, why not just put the blade in their palm or have it come straight out of their arm? I just don't understand what concessions are being made by that design. Not only is it ineffective, it's inefficient. I wish I could just say "at least it looks cool" but it honestly looks really stupid.
>>318085856
>T-there's examples!
>But I'm not going to list them :^)
See you're the one who seems to lack the mental faculties to engage in a debate. When you make a claim, usually you back it up anon. With actual evidence. Sorry if that's too imposing a challenge for your meager intellect.
>>318083641
That teaser was created to attract hirelings which are now developing PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY: THE GAME.
>>318085778
>That's why you're responding? Because you don't care?
I'm responding to tell you to fuck off, because you'll just keep doing stupid shit if no one does it. Nobody cares about your fragile morals here.
>I am not SJW.
Then why are you talking about all this shit? Give your opinion about how you feel about the picture thematically or aesthetically, not retarded shit about how this portrays women and what this means in the industry and making shit up about CDPR disparaging whatever the fuck. Go cry on your blog where someone might give a shit.
>>318086192
Wow you're getting pretty butthurt over a 2 minute CGI trailer. You sound downright triggered.
Since you seem to be pretty ignorant of pretty much every interview CDPR has given on the game, I suggest you start googling the ild news articles. Because "style over substance" is going to be a main theme.
>>318085457
Didn't say it was an advert specifically for 4chan. Putting words in my mouth, Anon.
The teaser trailer with this scene is on the homepage for the game. The art itself is also one of the official wallpapers. And the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Google Image results. I'm not digging hard for this. http://cyberpunk.net/
>>318086787
A E S T H E T I C ?
>>318086861
Damn that's so problematic. So offensive to women.
>>318086861
>>>/tumblr/
>>318086787
>lol u mad bro?
Don't be that guy. I'm not butthurt. I'm actually hyped as fuck for this game. I just pointed out something that bothered me in the design. Just because I'm excited doesn't mean I have to grin and lick every pube on CDPR's nutsack. And like I said I would be fine with a functionally retarded design if it at least looked cool. But the pseudo-scythe blade arms don't look cool. They look really fucking stupid actually.
>>318086012
There was at least one Anon before me.
>>318087267
>They look really fucking stupid actually.
(in your opinion)
>>318087267
To you. But what looks "cool" is completely subjective. Maybe instead of trying to ascribe some deeper message or taking a 3 year old teaser made before even rudimentary plot writing was done as what the entire game will be like, you should instead just accept that someone thought it looked cool. So they put it in. The end.
>>318058774
It wouldn't be the witcher. Only reason why story in the witcher is any good is because it's not generic enough to fit every single possible character archetype out there. Defined protagonist let the devs create more interesting story.
>>318087267
THANK YOU
>>318087210
No thank you. Ick. Now Reddit though...
>>318087079
Not once did I say this. Not even my focus. I don't like feeling pandered to, if I'm being frank, though that's only part of my issue.
>>318087956
>Now Reddit though...
Yes, go back there, then kill yourself.
>>318087770
What the fuck are you talking about? I made no mention of what the ultimate quality of the game would be. I'm not ascribing deeper meaning to shit. I just pointed out that I thought that particular design choice looked dumb.
>>318087758
>nothing subjective can be argued
Fuck it. If you like it, godspeed.
>>318058581
Cyberpunk was announced way before Fallout 4.
>>318088076
>All because I asked why she didn't have any pants on.
Consider that, Anon.
>>318087956
You're pretty much the living stereotype of the fedora-tipping Redditor.
>>318088669
Okay there, bub. I'm sure you're an outstanding citizen, a marvel, Adonis amongst men.
