so i just got S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl on steam
anything i should know before i put my gas mask on?
>>318032042
Play on the hardest difficulty. Seriously.
>>318032140
really? why?
and i heard the games have lots of bugs do i need any patches or mods or somesuch?
its shit and i regret my purchase
>>318032180
Might want to look into Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl Complete, tho it fucks up the AI a bit imo.
>>318032042
give it a proper try.
First time I played it I did so for about 10 minitues before putting it down as shit.
Second try though...
>>318032180
>really? why?
>and i heard the games have lots of bugs do i need any patches or mods or somesuch?
The lower difficulties aren't really easier at all. It just makes both you and the enemies more inaccurate.
>>318032180
play on hardest difficulty not because muh hardcore gaming experience, but because enemies including you are bullet sponges in lower difficulties and that's not fun at all
>>318032187
this. meme game
>>318032327
>>318032269
i will do so then
love myself some challenge
I really liked it. At first I hated the head bobble but I grew accustomed to it quickly. It's not perfect, the sneaking is not reliable at all. But the atmosphere is great.
I still need to go back and finish it. I lost my save after I backed up my game files wrong before installing a new OS.
>>318032180
Difficulty setting applies to everyone in game. So.. your bullets do more damage, and the NPC bullets do as well.
Hardest difficulty compliments the gunplay. Get shot: die. Thats stalker
>>318032378
>>318032187
care to back that up with something other than shitposting?
Use Zone Reclamation Project mod to fix annoying bugs in the game.
Also, I hope you have some experience with old tactical shooters like classic Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon because the shooting in STALKER works similarly as those games'. Don't rely on modern shooter game conventions such as aiming down sights for accuracy; your stance, movement and rate of fire are more important. Also, the early guns have very limited range and accuracy but you'll get better ones later on so don't get too discouraged by the early game.
>>318032327
>>318032269
what they said
STALKER, along with Deus Ex, actually does difficulty settings correctly, in that higher difficulties decrease HP for all characters, not just the player.
that said, you'll still find yourself starring in bewilderment when 54r to the head somehow isn't a kill on high level enemies
>>318032484
its bad lol
>>318032042
You should know that you're in for something that doesn't reassemble western gaming experience at all.
Other than that - go to STALKER general on /vg/ and ask for updated graphic with recommended mods and shits. They say that first playthrough should be modless, but used mods for both second and third installment's first runs and it was a good decisions. Even if you don't want big mods - you still should install some things recommmended there for first run like nature overhauls and shit.
>>318032546
oh im old guard, worry not; just never got to try the stalker series
am actually quite glad to hear that
>>318032403
the easier difficulties are actually harder since enemies can take two entire rifle magazines to the chest and walk like it's nothing
i take that back, it's not hard, it's just fucking obnoxious
>>318032042
Hey Dann.
Master difficulty
No mods
Get the Gauss Rifle
>>318032670
>the easier difficulties are actually harder
That was my experience too.
It takes so long to kill an enemy that the element of surprise loses value. You can't take out 1-2 guys before they start to shoot at you.
-Play SoC first, then CoP, then CS
-Play vanilla or get ZRP mod
-PLAY ON MASTER, no exceptions
-Don't use crosshair
-Learn the HUD and UI
-Use bolts
-Starting gear and guns are shit, it gets better
-Remember to save often, but don't savescum
-Take your time in fights, don't rush, plan ahead
If you need help, check the /vg/ general, OP has links to every single mod and fix you need.
>>318032221
>Complete
like others said, don't play on anything below hard difficulty - it actually makes the game harder, especially in the beginning where you're a hobo with garbage gear and weapons; in the starting missions every true shot counts
in easy mode you just keep firing at bulletsponge enemies and wonder why they never go down until you're out of bullets
>>318032042
I don't know, why don't you play the motherfucking game and form your own opinion?
>hey guys, I just bought a taco
>the taco is right here in front of me
>I'm about to eat the taco
>but first, what do you all think about tacos?
>what can I expect from this taco?
>>318032558
If you're playing on the hardest difficulty is there any reason NOT to play as a sniper?
>>318032973
time constraints my good man, time constraints
check back with me when your balls drop
>>318032042
When you get to the bridge (you'll know it when it happens) DONT START SHOOTING. The crosshair will turn red but the soldiers wont attack you. Else you'll get steamrolled
>>318032980
because if you have a scoped AR, it basically makes you one by default and I'll bet that 99% play the games as such, especially in their first playthrough
>>318032042
>All these people recommending no mods
Get AMK at least and play on Master. Makes it so enemies and you are much more realistically fragile, but also capable of pumping out massive damage. Makes the mutants and anomalies a hundred times more dangerous so your trip through the Zone is memorable. Limit yourself to a save every about 30-min, try not to savescum too hard as part of the fun is the risk of loss.
And when someone tells you to get out of here, make sure you get the fuck out of here, Stalker.
There's one tip. And it's to get the fuck out of here, stalker. Seriously. Clear sky is clearly better!
>>318033183
I said come in, don't stand there!
>>318033183
CoP>SoC>CS
>>318033171
>recommending mods
Get out of here Stalker.
>>318033171
I've played through the game twice, when the hell does that happen?
>>318032973
More like
>hey guys I just bought a $200 dollar meal
>I ate it without tasting or mixing some foods or with wine and it tasted like shit
>I'm never going to eat that again
Some PC games require some setting up and preparation. In this case the slav engine is pretty buggy and people who don't know about it might stop playing because of that. Or they just run into a first anomaly and die and quit.
>>318033171
>AMK
>for first playthrough
It's one of the best mods available, but I in no way would recommend it for a first-timer.
ged oud ob heer stucker :DDD
>>318032042
Beat the game first on Vanilla on Master, then you can dabble with mods. Complete is a bad mod, stay away from that shit.
>>318033237
Soc>Cop>>>>CS
mind you, I still like CS, but it's more of an inferior remix of SoC
>>318033171
I want millennials to leave
>>318033262
He sounds like a tough guy, he can handle it.
Give one reason why a new player shouldn't be using ZRP in his first playthrough
>>318033171
You play no mods the first time so you can appreciate what the mods add.
Also you're recommending fuck AMK forna first play. The fuck is OP going to think when he encounters a pack of 20 dogs in the Cordon?
>>318033403
It removes some maymay shit like "I said come in" and "get out of here Stalker"
That's probably the only reason, everything else is positive
>>318033460
I'm sure he'll be fine.
>>318033460
Dogs at Cordon aren't a problem. Warehouse, Red Forest and NPP are
>>318033236
You can't go there. Talk to Barkeep.
>>318033403
You need to play the game at least once in vanilla otherwise there's no point in "modding" the game.
>>318033601
Do you even know what ZRP does?
>>318033601
ZRP isn't really modding, mostly just bug-fixing. Also there are some games that might feel incomplete or lack some important features that can be added with mods
>>318033592
Whoever made that is a fool memer.
>>318032042
Consult this Starting Guide,
then see the /vg/'s huge Stalker General for more tips and links: >>>/vg/stalker
Play in the release order. Start with no mods - only latest patch, OR get the full "Starter Pack" first; these contain bug-fixers and light visual mods that can help performance as well.
Leave big overhauls for later playthrougs. Avoid the "Complete" -mods. Always play on MASTER difficulty for best realism and atmosphere, and disable crosshair.
Don't give up in the beginning! The starting gear sucks ass and first area is quite boring.
>>318033776
why
>>318032140
>hardest difficulty
what are you? a casual?
>2015
>not playing Misery, with the black road option + perma death
>>318033673
>>318033721
No matter how small the changes they're still changes. I know it's hardly a mod but it's still one technically.
There's no point in arguing about this, either you get or not. First time just play the game with extra stuff and then make changes according to your experience.
Vanillafags need to off themselves.
Go walk into a Whirligig.
>>318033860
it's wrong
it's stupid
it's memey
>>318032042
cam_inert 0.1
almost entirely removes the head bob when moving.
it's still there, but it won't give you motion sickness anymore.
>>318033913
That's a retarded logic. So you would play a broken and buggy game because "that's how it came out!" instead of getting a mod or patch that fixes everything?
>>318033969
It's right, it's funny and it was probably created before meme was even a word
>There are people out there who think that there is nothing wrong with Complete
OP, just never use complete and you'll be fine.
>>318034054
>try to read any other gaming forum than /v/
>people are seriously recommending Complete
kill me
>>318033534
Is that some Silent Road or whatever it was called, the one with the AA2 addon?
>>318032042
>>318032180
1) No mods. Only latest patch and high difficulty.
2) Do low-crouch, and aim with the sights. Get to higher ground.
3) Use the Single-shot or Burst firing modes on Automatic rifles.
4) Aim in "advance" if the target's moving, and slightly higher if they're really far away.
5) Go for the head for instant / quicker kills. At distance, aim to center mass.
6) Pistols and 00-buckshot have very short reach and weak armor penetration. Latter does wonders against exposed flesh though.
7) Get a full-length AK, pop a scope on top, and load up AP-Rounds into it. Vola - you're the fucking god of the Zone!
>>318033913
ZRP is literally just like a fan-made patch, helping the stability of the game. You CAN use it to adjust things like inventory's grid size for widescreen, reduce headbob, enable dynamic lighting for fire, etc.
The STARTER PACKs in general are very neat to have for first timers, because they don't really change much at all, just help you iron out issues and improve both visuals AND performance. Plus the best thing is, everything's optional and adjustable.
>>318034010
>it was probably created before meme was even a word
>>318034114
no, it's just AMK1.4, and the final path to the "true" ending in NPP
The artifacts I recommend getting during your journey are:
>Soul (Insane health regen)
>Moonlight (Run 4evar and kill only the people who are in your way - try to avoid enemies if you can, you'd only be wasting ammunition if you did)
>Spring (Jump from certain heights and take no damage - saves a bandage!)
>Mama's Analbeads (Bullet resistance with no drawbacks, what's to hate?)
>Crystal (Great radiation resistance with a weak endurance setback - very nice trade!)
I started playing STALKER about a month ago and I got the Bar and just didn't feel like playing anymore. The game didn't really consume me like everyone says it would. I felt like there wasn't anything there that kept me immersed or interested in the game. The gun play felt weird even after I increased the difficulty to master, the sights also felt too slow even after I increased the sensitivity to max.
I just felt like there was too much busy work in completing the little missions you're given. It's all just go there, get this, kill this, etc., there's no substance of a story or characters to keep me interested.
What gives anons? Am I just a scrub or do I need to approach the game in a different manner?
>>318034342
Nah, some people love it, some hate it. Good you managed to play to the Bar.
One of the good things is Stalkers is the difficulity. The mundane tasks that are simple but hard are the reason some people like it. The story is pretty boring and I didn't even follow it in my first playthrough.
>>318034228
>not grabbing every artifact you see and selling them off and keeping all the HP artifacts for quick regen and running with 5 moonlights
Can't kill what you cant see, ninja running is the shit!
>>318034342
You gotta play it like you're actually there, stalking the Zone.
>>318032042
the first mission is the hardest, but also one of the most fun. play on master. low tier guns can't aim for shit: you can barely hit anything with the PMm from over 10 meters. bullet physics is based on calibre, the only practical implications of which are "pistols are unreliable" and "9x39 ammo sinks in the air like a stone (but is still best ammo)"
>>318034342
Some people are just born casual. There's nothing you can do.
>>318034498
not before about 20 hours into the game, at least, will you be finding reliably aiming guns. this is the "rpg-element" that is often mentioned about the game, and I'd argue it is a good thing.
>318034457
also this.
>>318034342
Play with AMK, it fixes the gunplay, ups the difficulty and should be enough to get you past the hurdle of boringness that is the Bar. Doing side quests is a waste of time honestly, you make more money roaming around the place artifact hunting and killing shit. I definitely agree vanillas gunplay is really iffy with its circular bullet spread.
I can't count how many times I quit playing when I reach the bar and have millions of ru, but once you push through you reach some really great levels. Try getting to Yanov/Yantov/Yantar and X11 or whatever it is before you give up.
Loners>Duty>Scientists>Monolith>Mercs>BlueSky>Bandits>Shit>>>>>>>>>>Freedom
>>318034342
Most people agree that the game truly picks up AFTER you get to the BAR. Everything before that is just "tutorials" and introduction of sorts.
The big appeal points are the series' atmosphere, overall challenge, and the unpredictability of everything created by the dynamic AI and the deadliness of attacks & anomalies.
As said some million times, the game has a bit RPG-y progression system, where the later gear is almost automatically better and stronger than the early stuff. There's also actual bulletphysics, which you gotta keep in mind when aiming.
>>318034342
the story/atmosphere is really what got me. The feeling of being there and of wondering and frankly having hopes about what the zone really is. but atmosphere is a vague word, and a story either grips you or it doesn't. I suggest you try it again in a year or so, if you don't feel it then it ain't your cannoli
>>318034684
>Freedom
Freedom is best faction you dirtbag.
+ they are canibals so they get bonus points.
>>318034684
how fucking stupid is it that bloodsuckers are invulnerable while invisible in Clear Sky? That game still pisses me off on a regular basis.
Is the Call of Chernobyl mod for CoP any good?
These games, especially with mods like AMK or MSO have one of the best AI's in vidya. They aren't just static NPCs who only do something when you are near or talk to them, but they live their lives and fight eachother and collect stuff without you being anywhere near.
>>318034781
if you're into that sort of thing
>>318034791
>>318034759
>WEED LMAO, SAVE THE ZONE, LETS GO HAVE SOME BIG STRONG BLOODSUCKERS FUCK US IN THE ASS BORIS!
Haha no.
>>318033868
seriously this mod is probably the best mod ever made, it's so fucking good.
hobo phase is so fucking satisfying with the black road option, the first days you'll just barely scrape by, trading cigarettes for some stale bread. If you're lucky enough to have survived the first couple of days you may have skinned a few mutant corpses or even looted a dead stalker and managed to save up enough cheeki bucks to buy a sawed-off toz, from there on you should be able to live of hunting flesh hounds and dogs and slowly start progressing trough the quests.
also it's really stable, I managed to play for 7 hours straight before I tried to eat a artifact container
>>318034791
I've been waiting for this.
>>318032042
You made a huge mistake. See you in buyer's remorse threads
>>318034857
I tried this mod a while ago.
I got rekt by those gas mask dudes at the helicopters and gave up.
>>318032042
>put my gas mask on
I just hope you got your obligatory bottle of vodka prepared first and already took a shot of it.
>>318034905
spotted the casual
enjoying your Fallout 4?
>>318032180
Highest difficulty makes everybody much easier to kill.
Also do a whole bunch of tweaks which are likely to be already mentioned in the thread, all the prior setup with ZRP and such is worth it
>want to reinstall CoP
>can't be arsed with installing mods
Last time i played was 6 months ago, any new mods that are released meanwhile ?
>>318035058
Cal of Chernobyl, which is standalone. If you were around for that then no, nothing.
>>318035058
Call of Chernobyl
>>318035058
CoC
>>318032042
play on the hardest difficulty
that's it, after that play it modded
>>318034781
It's a freeplay mod.
I think it's okay but it gets old fast because there's no sense of world persistence or progression. It uses small spawn points scattered all around the maps that activate regularly to populate the world instead of having limited and logical spawn points (such as main faction bases and edges of maps only). Also, the NPCs and monsters seem incapable of traveling across maps, they just wander around in circles. Occasionally, you'll see NPCs seemingly heading to another map but if you go to that map to follow them, you won't find them.
>>318034442
It's just that the mundane tasks aren't hard, they're just busywork. The only point where I ever had any difficulty that made me repeatedly die was the fight against the two Spetsnaz guys in the arena, and that's just because the fight is ridiculously unfair. Everywhere else I had pretty much no difficulty.
>>318034457
That's what I hear, but there doesn't seem to be anything that really immerses me. If scavenging and survival were bigger parts of it maybe it'd help, but it's mostly just not being a retard and running into anomalies and shooting any mutant or bandit you come across.
>>318034521
I guess my point is that the game itself feels casual. It's just busywork without any real difficulty or challenge. Cold War Assault gave me genuine challenge that made me constantly change how I played the game, STALKER just made me go come from a different direction and hide behind cover.
>>318034659
Ya, I just I'll give it another try and see what happens.
>>318034695
The atmosphere just doesn't feel that special to me, it just seems like a regular wasteland. In the movie the Zone was creepy and mysterious, in the game it just felt like a place with booby traps, bandits, and annoying mutants, none of which have felt very dangerous.
>>318034716
I guess I haven't really felt that because there's been no real story or characters that make me feel engrossed in the world. If there was a real plot or side characters which drew you into the world, I could see it working, but at the moment it feels almost like a MMORPG with a big world but you have no reason to care about it because it feels lifeless and unimportant because no one has a character and are just task-givers and traders.
In SoC, I'm off to the Bar to hand over some shit I robbed from a lab that had some kind of pyrokinetic shit trying to kill me
How far into the game am I and what stage do I fit into >>318034663 ? When is it worth using NATO weapons? Most are dropping ammo for Russian guns right now
>>318035187
>off to the Bar
About 1/4, 1/3 in?
>>318035187
>When is it worth using NATO weapons?
When you join the Freedom canibals.
>>318035187
approximately 1/4
>>318035187
I'd say you're 50%
>>318035140
>none of which have felt very dangerous.
shows that you've barely scratched the surface.
Also dunno about you, but to me the fact that the game's Zone is based on a real, dangerous as fuck zone of alienation around Chernobyl, adds a fuckton of extra creepiness to the atmosphere.
>>318034989
>enjoying your Farcry 5?
FTFY.
>>318035086
>>318035090
>>318035097
i mean, i finished the game with Misery/ShokerAO3 already. Also how does CoC even work ? as far as i remember, SoC really screwed up the landscape of Pripyat/Chernobyl and only in CoP that it was fixed (pripyat being on the northwest side of CPP)
>>318035295
>>318035327
>>318035334
Uh okay
>>318035318
I haven't seen the Freedom guys yet, I barely know shit about Unity other than their little base with the bar
>>318035187
Have you been to the bar before, if so, 1/2, if not 2/7.
>>318035140
Seems like you're just a good gamer, dunno how well you can immerse into games, but that sucks if you feel nothing special with STALKERs atmosphere (which is big part of the game).
If it really feels too easy and you want to try more, get the AMK mod. It's ridiculously hard, to the point of artificial difficulty (10 enemies in total darkness one-shotting you and you have no idea where the shot came from)
>>318033262
That's one of the worst analogies I've ever read.
>>318034982
i drink my vodka from the bottle
>>318035509
Nah, I'd say more like 5/22 or 7/38. If he's been at the Bar then 53/197
>>318035509
I've been to the bar and went into a lab to get some docs out, got attacked by some entity that flings fire and shit then some military guys arrived on the way out. Then I went south to Cordon to escape and did a job for the trader that involved getting some shit from a military base to the south of the newbie camp for him.
I'm making my way back to the bar with the docs from the lab in hand.
>>318035638
>53/197
>not 48/210
anon pls
If i install Misery, is there anything else i need to add over it?
>>318033068
>I'm too busy to not fuck around on /v/ instead of playing video games
>>318035746
The uninstall.exe
>>318035746
No, but you can have Les Miserebles add-on to it which makes it less-bullshitty.
https://mega.nz/#F!58lwDISQ!P-UNABvTEA7km2fLUIAU7A!lwd0SSSS
>>318035724
Oh, so you haven't seen shit yet.
Good luck with the Bar and Yantar
>>318035935
HAHA GREAT POST MY FRIEND, UPVOTED!
>>318036019
You sound mad.
>>318032042
To make sure you don't go over the two hour mark before requesting your refund.
>>318036040
You sound like someone who:
a) Can't make an original joke
b) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I71cY9Ysy5U
Replace Nice with ''Adds something to the conversation''
>>318036019
Hello, N.Aaroe! Hows Fagzy treating you?
>>318036187
You're trying really hard to not appear butthurt now.
>>318033592
what was hard about Cordon? im in garbage now but i dont remember anything inparticular about it
>>318033849
>huge Stalker General
>last post was 90 minutes ago
>in this time this whole thread here happened
>still constant replies
>proper discussions over here, minimum shitposting
>the oh so huge general is about to get archived yet again (after barely 100 posts)
>>318036294
/sg/ has been filled with such rampant shitposting that people barely bother bumping it anymore.
Its turned to shit and you reallg shouldn't go there for any reason besides acess to the pasta.
>>318036294
>I don't know what timezone traffic is
Europeans are either working/eating right now.
Americans are sleeping.
>>318036294
/vg/ was the BIGGEST mistake. Shoulda just made /esp/
>>318036294
there's been a 24/7 general for the past few years, and all the info you'll ever need is right there at the top.
also unlike on /v/, the general's threads don't die in a matter of minutes or hours. They stick there for days, weeks even.
>>318036276
Probably the new player phase and car park with shitty weapons
>>318034860
Thats SoC. The CoP Alife is far more complicated and NPCs do roam around and take up multiple jobs.
>>318036276
you wouldn't believe how many rookies get their asses blasted and thus butt-pained in the Car Park mission you do for Wolf at the beginning.
It's literally the baptism of fire of the STALKER series these days. Kiddos are surprised that they can't take a bunch of armed bandits all by themselves that easily.
>>318036912
FUCK
>>318036187
"Haha, great post my friend, upvoted!" is your idea of original then?
>>318036912
not looking forward to this shit
the dogs and boars are enough for me right now
>>318036276
The car park and Agroprom are major bitch filters.
>>318032221
Jesus shut the fuck up.
>>318036912
>THE LION CLAIMS YOUR LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOABE_pzyc
>>318037485
laughing so hard
Have any of you faggots visited CNPP and Pripyat ? I'll be visiting Kiev this february and there are tours that goes there
>>318037485
>vodka
>on mouse bind
true stalker/5
>>318033592
>first time playing years ago
>get to pripyat
>got used to gunning every faggot down just by instinct
>quit and don't play for a few months, decide to finish it up later
>lost my shooting skills, duty guy says he needs my help
>get shot by some faggots with a railgun from a roof
>he keeps killing me
>what the fuck, stop killing me why cant I do anything
>ragequit like a faggot baby
What's the best mod for each of the three games where it completely overhauls the graphics as much as possible, while making no changes to anything else.
I want to play the game, but the outdated graphics are kind of a turn off.
>>318037827
lmao I've never noticed that
>>318037698
DELETE THIS
>>318038000
AA2 for SoC
Misery for CoP
haven't played CS
Also checked
>>318038000
>outdated graphics
nigga what, STALKERs are one of the best looking games of their generation
For graphics Absolute textures and Atmosfear is the best combo
>>318038065
>while making no changes to anything else
Also
>Shitsery
>good graphics
>>318038000
Absolute Nature+Structures/Photorealistic Zone, SWO, Atmosfear.
>>318034498
>first mission is the hardest
I'll give you that it's hard because you get shit weapons and shitloads of bandits, while most of your guys end up dead quick. But
>see duty patrol
>ask me to help them out
>they want to attack a freedumb base
>okay
>they blow up the wall, go inside
>over 6 gazzilion DUDE WEED LMAOs with full nato weapons
>snipers on towers
>duty guys die in first five minutes, proceed to run around killing every freedumb weeder faggot in the base while constantly reloading because they're everywhere and they're shooting at only me
>expect some awesome reward from duty general for basically wiping out a faction single-handedly
>tells me that the guy who asked me for help was a homo, pats me on the shoulder and gives me some utter shit of a reward
Yeah, fuck that mission. I wanted to join Duty so bad but I didnt even know you cant join factions.
>>318038381
You can get access into doody's super secret special club, and the shitton of NATO weapons those freedumb fucks drop is more than worth blatting them niggas, thats fucking boatloads of ru there.
7.62 or go home
>>318036294kill yourself
/sg/ now is only good for starter pack, backups and translations, which all are in first 3 posts anyway.
>>318032042
Yeah, it doesn't run on anything past window XP
>>318039253
The longer general goes the worse it becomes. Only exception is Mountain Blade, it's almost always good. Just go to /gsg/ and try talking about CK2. It's gonna be faggots yelling at you and ripping out their hair for not playing some unknown map painter instead.
>>318039369
Bullshit
>>318037485
>Total weight: 94.7 kg (max 60.0 kg)
>>318032865
>-Remember to save often, but don't savescum
what
how do you savescum in stalker?
>>318032042
It's perfectly natural for objects to move on their own in the zone.
Just keep running.
>>318042740
By quicksaving before every encounter and reloading until you can make it through without damaging your armor
>>318034119
This is great, any more?
>>318042740
quicksave before every encounter
>>318043036
>>318043095
so when player get's killed he should cancel hour of progress?
good luck getting through CNPP without saving
