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Thoughts?
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>>317926027
sounds in voice and personality exactly like Tristana, but with the gun lines replaced by hammer lines

I quit league after what they did to Gangplank and Mordekaiser, changing their gameplay and personalities significantly for no good reason. Poppy's rework is no different to those 2: they took a decent established character, and rather than expanding on it, gutted her and replaced "tough girl" with "giggling cheerleader"

League of Legends is staffed by incompetents
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>>317926027
pure sex
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my mind says >>317926414 but my dick says >>317926494
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>>317926027
>we want final fantasy 14 audience

kill yourself
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I've never played an ASSFAGGOTS but she's cute
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>>317926560
Oh yeah the visual rework is actually amazing and a stellar example of what they should do when they do these things. The ability rework is okay.

but the new voiceover and new lore is fucking stupid. Naruto tier.

"xD she has a hammer she's carrying for a hero but she doesn't know she's the hero xD!" Sounds like Mary Sue fanfiction
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FANG
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Hopefully Taric is next.
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>>317926880
Explain this fang thing

Why is it so popular?
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>>317926027
Riots incompetent, see Morde rework vs this.
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>>317927096
Because it's cute! CUTE!
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>>317926414
Except Morde WAS trash after the rework except for his wacky ult and the exp gain from W, which they halved and he is now back to useless, even more so since he cant solo lane anymore.

Poppy rework seems stupidly good.
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>>317927187
Well, that's true I guess
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Overall bad. Traded the best ultimate in the game for one that literally gives the enemy a free recall.

Her porn was decent at best. Now it's going to be a little better
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>>317927736
>A little better

A lot better, you mean
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>>317926027
She's now an ugly rodent and probably has the same VA as Trist now because one VA needs to voice every furfuck character not to mention kit is probably fucked now. No true Poppy lover likes any of this shit.

Now waiting for Lulu to get Deviantart'd like the others. All they're missing are the diapers.
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>>317927926
>All they're missing are the diapers.
Im pretty sure those exist already
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>>317927886
You're right. Sorry
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>>317928012
Shortstacks are the best
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>>317928282
I hate shortstack proportions. Yordles are cute and fuckable though
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>>317928393
Actually I agree, some people take it too far and make them grotesque. I just like little women.
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>>317927228
>>317926414
I was a full time Morde main for about 2 and a half years prior to the rework.

In the patch directly for the rework, in terms of Ranked winrates, Mordekaiser had a 50% winrate in all ELOs. He was a balanced champion. He could be played and be somewhat useful in every role bar support and jungle [although longer time Morde mains than me have jungled him]. He was one of the most team-independent champs in the game: If your team is feeding, a good Mordekaiser takes advantage of this by killing the most fed player and using their ghost to bring about a victory.

After the rework he became the second most consistently banned champion after Skarner, was restricted almost entirely to the ADC role, and became fully dependent on the skill of his teammates to catch targets, while needing a support to function properly.

and that's when I quit League of Legends. Blatantly stupid and counterproductive decisions like that. Right after they turned Gangplank into a giant edgelord.
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>>317926027
She looks cute, She sounds cute. but thats not how I wanted my poppy to turn out.
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>>317926027
So they removed Tristana first and then made not-Tristana from other character. R for Retarded.
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>>317928890
Now it would be nice to see how many times morde got played, compared to other champions, otherwise those 50% winrate means nothing.

> If your team is feeding, a good Mordekaiser takes advantage of this by killing the most fed player and using their ghost to bring about a victory.
Except now it was way harder, due to all the cheap MR items and ADCs in general having to many dashes and mobility, not to mention melee champions were useless as ghost and AP characters only midly better.

>Right after they turned Gangplank into a giant edgelord.
But he is somewhat useful now late game.
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>>317928890
>Into a giant edgelordd
You mean into an actual fucking pirate?
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Her voice is so similar to Tristana they had to make Poppy blonde so people wouldnt confuse the two.
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>>317928890
>>317926414
GP rework was miles better than his original design.
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>>317926027
who else is getting a visual revamp?
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>>317926027
They are finally making her cute? Hopefully she doesn't have a dyke voice.
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>>317928890
>gangplank becomes viable at the cost of his jolly demeanor

deepest lore
yo ho ho and a bottle of
RUM
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>>317929434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiy2XCdHaeE
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>>317929434
She has Tristanas voice actress who decided that sounding exactly like new Tristana was the correct voice to use.

and all her lines are exactly the same as Tristanas lines except with the word hammer replacing gun and explosions
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>>317929380
Taric, the truly, TRULY outrageous paladin of the gems
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>>>/lolg/
Fuck off lol babbies
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>>317929558
>>317929581
I'm okay with this, much better sounding than her old voice.
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>>317929581
You do know that the voice director is in charge of how the VA should perform, right?
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>>317929754
Are you ready for Taric the gruff paladin that sounds exactly like Garen and is not fabulous in any way? The only gem he will have is a single gem on his steel warhammer and it will be red to show how angry his soul is.
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>>317929581
But that's wrong
She has Jinx's voice actress
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>>317929558
>Woah you're a big fellow
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>>317929280
>"Neither the flames nor the depths could claim me."
>"Their tears will salt the ocean."
>"Their bodies will choke the abyss."
>"My heart is iron."
>"I found my hate in the fire."
>"I lost my ship, but not my soul."
> "I am reborn of salt and brine."
> "A slit throat is too painless."
>"A reckoning approaches."

Yeah? That's how "actual fucking pirates" talk, is it? Face it, they made GP into a huge edgelord. The majority of the lines also suffer from exactly the same delivery too, where he starts up high and then trails off.

>>317929358
The model rework went from a great looking model to a Neanderthal with giant hands, and then later on into an even grosser looking fat thing which looks more like Sion than what he originally looked like. If they were going to pull such a drastic series of changes, they should have given us a Traditional skin.

Character wise, they went from a one-dimensional jolly pirate stereotype to a one-dimensional grimdark pirate stereotype. Considering the proliferation of super serious men in League, I far preferred the latter.
>>317929184
>But he is somewhat useful now late game.
Oh yeah that's certainly true. All I'm upset about is the visual and voice rework.

The one thing I wanted from the rework was for his cannonball barrage to feel like your enemies were actually being hit by cannon, and they didn't do that except when you reach lategame. But the barrel mechanic is cool.
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>>317929796
>>317929796
in /lolg/ all they do is spam "mai waifu is this" "x needs more porn" "xrd for 'z character' a shit"
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>>317926027
>Thoughts?

Could be worse. A LOT worse.
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>>317929992
THAT'S NOT MY KING
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>>317926027
She is cute but her new kit is shit

They changed fundamentaly nothing, just removed her good parts and put gimmicks in.

Instead of gaining an armor steroid for early jungling, you get a shitty buckler that flies somewhere, you waste time catching it every 15 seconds and gain a shitty shield.

Instead of being able to dive towers or focus on the carry with her ult, "you can now send people across the map xD". Why?

When it comes to actual practical things, like ganking, he's exactly the same, except worse. You still only have the semi-gimmicky E as a form of ganking. Except now your Q doesn't guarantee damage. They need to turn EVERYthing into a skillshot nowadays, even auto-attack enchantments.

Why does a mobile melee champion have a 2 part ground explosion ability with no range or area that everyone who isn't stunned always easily dodges?

It's a good attack for Vel'Koz because he more easily stuns you and can use that 2-explosion attack to zone you out of something or to put you into a position to take his Q in the face. What advantage is there for Poppy to have her Q get a delayed 2 explosion? None.

I hate her remake. Her gameplay is exactly the same. Her Q is much, much, much shitter especially in hectic teambattles or any chase. Her armor steroid and her damage blocking passive transformed into a gimmicky useless 15% shield mechanic that you'll almost never get in hectic teambattles or chases. Her E and R diving combo is gone. R combos with NOTHING
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Nerf new poppy before release plz.
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>>317929992
>the most popular cosmetics are the ones that cover up his face

Good job Valve.
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>>317929964
>All I'm upset about is the visual and voice rework.
I can understand that, especially the arm they removed.
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>>317929908
i'm not
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>>317929908
You mean bloodstone taric?
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>>317929908
please no

I mean, I almost never play anymore because Riot Tencent is one of the worst companies out there, but Taric is like the Bob Ross of League of Legends

>>317930365
not him but that's just a skin, not the default and canon character

skins are usually noncanon or lolipoppy wouldn't exist
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>>317929992
F
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>>317929964
Not that guy, not even entirely sure what game this about, I live too hardcore a life to actually read thread topic headers.

Those lines are low-rate Ed thatch "Blackbeard" and pirates and privateers could be argued as being the modern origin of edge, since being a scary/batshit insane motherfucker was essentially the only way to keep your essentially mostly shanghaied and underpaid/not paid at all crew in some fucking order between the months of starvation and brief moment of glory.

Certainly not a "golden era" pirate since this was essentially a formative period in which most pirates were actually privateers or got to live off fat Ducat bucks, but in the leaner later years most pirates deliberately garnered edgy-as-fuck reputations in order to help secure better and easier returns on piracy and to keep men in line.

There too is an aspect of seeing galley capture warfare coming into its prime. When you think of naval combat you would generally imagine ships being sank en masse, the truth is that actually great efforts were made to capture a ship with cargo intact. Most privateers were kitted out with lots of anti-infantry weaponry in order to shed enemy numbers (often decks stacked with soldiers just to stop exactly this shit) enough to force them to surrender and steer their ship into friendly poors for scuppering and sale of cargo, and/or reuse of their vessel.

TL;DR Yes pirates in the later era were edgemeisters.

Source: my mum was a pirate
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>>317926414
WAIT THEY REPLACED HER PERSONALITY!?

SHE WAS LIKE THE ONLY SERIOUS YORDLE FUUUUUUUUU
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>>317929979
that's pretty much all the generals.
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>>317930447
DON'T YOU GET IT INSTEAD OF A INDEPENDENT YORDLE FEMALE THAT NEEDS NO MEN, SHE'S A YORDLE THAT NEEDS TO FINDS AN INDEPENDENT MAN TO WIELD HER HAMMER plus shitting on galio's relation to her lorewise
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1: She's still a qt3.14
2: New ult looks like pure retarded fun

Those are the only ups. Her old kit was fucking fine, she just needed a VU.

They're going to gut Urgot and im going to be mad.
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>>317929184
It says right there, 2.84% pickrate.

Considering some champions like Thresh had a 40% pickrate at that exact same time helps explain the low role picking. People picked the 10 or so clearly overpowered champs like Jinx in the majority of their ranked matches [who has never been below top 3 ADCs since her release], driving down the popularity of balanced champs.
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>>317929964
>more like Sion than what he originally looked like.

Oh fuck! now we know what happened with Sion's hextech skin
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Is it true in LoL you need to grind for each hero?
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Her voice couldn't be worse. Her old voice was a bit shit, but at least it was angry and strong and powerful. It had some sort of strength to it. Her new voice is just shitty kawaii Tristana 2.0 and I fucking hate it.
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>Update Mordekaiser
>He's much stronger but gets his title changed and drops the whole heavy metal joke schtick, instead being generic metal faggot

>update Poppy
>Change her kit and make her visuals much better but neuter her personality and make her generic action girl instead of the comedic straight man

>Update Miss Fortune
>change nothing about her terrible design or personality and leave her as a giant cringy stripper joke

why
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>>317929992
I am still fucking mad, ghost are the fucking worst
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I guess its cool but I wish Riot would try to keep the quality of their game consistent. I've pretty much stopped playing League and MOBAs all together recently because they are painfully dull now and draining to me, but when they dropped the lore all together I was pretty disappointed in how they kinda just... did it. They are re-working a lot of together but it still feels pretty half-baked, and thats super evident with Poppy because she's just a huge change in character.
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>>317930441
No anon, I understand that threats of violence in your speech were perfectly normal among pirates to keep crews in line and I've read a fair bit of pirate literature, but an "actual fucking pirate" wanting to threaten his crew into line wouldn't be that fucking verbose and flowery in his language. It would be more along the lines of "Get in gear or I'll rip out yer fucking throats".

All those lines sound like poetry written by a high school emo cutting himself with a razor blade and thus do not fit the character's tone.

Plus, the absolute personality shift from a beloved character was completely pointless.
They could have just expanded upon it.

To give you some context on how really edgy he is in the lore, he "draws deeply intricate bone carvings into live, awake captives as a work of art" and spends hours in the lore pontificating on how bone carving is a lost art. Before they did this 180 degree turn, he was just a jolly pirate who was searching for fame and fortune.
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>>317930997
If I could revert the Mordekaiser rework, I would in a second

The most painful part by far was they took his maces smashing out of the ground like in pic, now it's just another generic "darkness" attack you would see in any anime or cartoon
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>>317931101
Well, he was always ruthless and psychotic, remember he murdered his own father to seize power. But he was cheerful and jolly, more Long John Silver, than the William Teach he is now.
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>>317930997
because this is the target audience
+ gamer gurls and cosplayers
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>>317931101
That is pretty edgy, do they refer to the bonecrafting as scrimshawing? They'd fucking better.
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>>317931243
Yeah exactly, a Joker sort of character. Now there's nothing fun about him because they went for edgy gray grimdark.

And visually they actually made him look like a cross between Aatrox and Kunkka. They said the rework was to make him "more iconic to League", but then they just ended up turning him into a dotard character.
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>>317931398
Yep.

Here's what he looks like now, compared to his pre rework look which can be seen here. >>317931406
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Honestly nothing they do can be worse than what they did to Trundle.
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>>317931606
And this:
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>>317931653
I actually liked Trundle. Sure they made him a villain, but EH. His plot was dumb anyway.
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>>317931101
>>317931398
Having living bone would be incredibly irritating to work with, you want to bleach and dry that shit before you carve. Instead you got niggers wiggling around and bleeding all over your lines and it's like fjaksdjjhfjkasd
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>>317931653
but atleast trundle still had a traditional skin....they stopped doing that because they weren't getting enough money from it since all the character mains would just get a free skin and no one would buy the old skin
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>>317931761
I would buy Sejuanis old skin if it was for sale
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Wtf did they do to poppy?
Is SF she a damn loli now? WTF
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>>317929992
Who the fuck is that?
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>>317931908
Burger King from Distribution Of The Apples
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>>317931862
I have the old one and end up laughing everytime someone plays with the new classic one, its so ugly
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>>317926027
I want to stroke her fluffy ears and hear her giggle
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>>317931871
Not a loli, a shortstack. There's an important difference.
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>>317928890
morde used to be my go to hero as well. i quit playing once i got into dota beta though. came back to give lel a whirl to find morde completely fucking ruined. what a joke. honestly though the entire game is a huge fucking joke these days. so much health percentage damage, pure damage bullshit and the dashes and blinks. it's like all my old favorite heroes are so completely fucking outclassed these days and the balance in lel has gone so completely haywire.
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>>317931908
>Who the fuck is that?

Ghost king of croissants from Dota.
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>>317931759
Oh yeah, and you'd have to leave it like a month anyway. Yeah okay he's retarded my bad anon.
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>>317927096
Originally? Because 11s like fucked up teeth.

>>317926027
Please don't fuck it up. Playing champs like her on aram is the only fun there is to the game.
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>>317929992
Cheap knock off
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>>317929908
Nah. If they ever rework him, they'll completely overdo the flamboyance. They just don't grasp what made parts of their game good back then. Then again, their average player is what, 13 years old? Dumbing down and overdoing characters is what works on them.
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>>317926027
muscle short turned into a loli? WOW good job kojima!
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I will miss her super serious personality. But I guess it makes sense. Yordles should be happy little guys (except veigar of course)

Mordekaiser rework was eh. Didnt think he needed it at all, along with Fiora.
I can get why people are mad about reworks. I used to main old Karma because I loved her stupid design. Every skill had a dual effect and she was wearing a fucking dress along with ugly hairstyle, and that was fun.
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>>317932929
>Blizzard hadn't officially threatened for copyright
>Valve changes their sweet boner king into a ghost of his former self
makes me sad every time I think about it
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I quit rather recently.
>riot thinks adcs are too same-y
>gimps them all to high hell so now there are only 2 good ones people play
>the most unique adcs are forgotten or get terrible "buffs" compared to everyone else
>you now need to pick 1 of the 2 good adcs to not be completely redundant until lategame

I've tried to keep with him from the beginning, but I can't anymore.
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>>317930946
Well you need to play the game to unlock more heroes. It's actually one of the things that works quite well.
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>>317933635
been playing twitch a lot. Hes in a pretty good spot.
build him AD/crit immediately, dont go for shitty BOTRK
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>>317929964
It also doesnt make sense that the IS a total edgelord and his gameplay mechanics its the fucking barrels that forçe you to bait someone and run away while spamming E in a 1 v1 combat. Imo, just doesnt fit.
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>>317926027
I now have no desire to play her anymore whatsoever after her piece of shit rework. Thanks a lot Riot, you fucking assholes.

RIP Poppy.
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>>317926414
I honestly think that Ironstylus is the most cringeworthy person working at Riot. He's really, really pathetic.
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>Riot has reworked almost every single champion whose gameplay I liked.
>The ones they didn't rework they nerfed until they were terrible.
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>>317934486
I'm more annoyed with new champs having 10000 dashes. Positioning used to be an important part of the game.
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>>317934106
I like new poppy more. Eat shit faglord.
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Her voice sounds exactly like Tristana's. The difference in her personality and background is lost just like that.
I will never understand this change.
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>>317934873
Poppy's new W fucks with dashes. I love it.
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>>317931664
That one still had his old charm.
He looks less rugged, but still not full-on vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=113u9CjoKgw
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>>317931653
Trundle was at least somewhat unique in his design (in the game, that is), and they turned him into another ice magic faggot
I like how he looks now, mind you, but they just turn the old champs into bland oversaturated shit
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>>317933635
>gimps them all to high hell so now there are only 2 good ones people play
This is exactly the opposite of what actually happened.
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>>317926414
is that guy on the left the former WoW lead dev? why would he keep that name when going to a different company? I don't get it
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>>317935059
About fucking time they added some way to counter dashes, considering everyone and their grandma gets them.
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>>317926027
just commenting on mechanics and her move set:

she was one of the worst bruisers in the game, new kit doesn't seem like it will help much in that regard

her new ult, however, will literally be the best teamfight ult in the game once people start to master it, I expect top players cause it to get nerfed hard within a week or two, in its current state its just straight up broken, and the nature of its function will break other peoples' teamfight ults

Riot proves once again they have no fucking clue what they're doing
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>>317929964
>GP gets turned from a hammy pirate into some edgemaster
>Sion gets turned from an amusing undead barbarian with an Arnold accent to a super edgemaster
>Trundle changed from an interesting character and concept to something really bland and generic

Im glad I dont play this game anymore, so I wont have to see what they do to my poor yorick
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So, Urgot is fucked right?
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>>317935648
>characters get changed from childish caricatures with ten voiced lines each to mature, well-developed characters with backstory, goals and motivations
I fail to see the problem. The only "rework" people could have a legitimate gripe with was Trundle.
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>>317935648
I can't even imagine why they would need to rework yorick.
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>>317935873
Because he's shitty and terribly designed? Especially his ult
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>>317935639
>Riot proves they have no fucking clue what they're doing
You don't actually believe this, so why even say it? You're still playing their game so they must be doing something right, you're just being a contrarian shite acting like he knows better, yet refuses to put his money where his mouth is.

The point here, is stop being a fucking shite and stop playing garbage like LoL when you don't even believe it's good, or stop being a contrarian shite and just accept that you do think it's good.

God damn retarded children like you are fucking pathetic.
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>>317935802
>>characters get changed from childish caricatures with ten voiced lines each to "mature", "well-developed" characters with "backstory", "goals and motivations"

I know youre baiting but you got me anyway, you did good anon
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>>317936037
Which part of that is incorrect?
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>>317935802
It's a video game anon. You can't get on your high horse about maturity in a *game* made for children.

GP's writing and voice acting is terrible, anyway. Absolute Coldsteel tier trash. Sion's gone from an Arnie caricature to just yelling all the time about killing, although it was an improvement in that area because he really did feel like just a joke. In both cases they didn't really add anything they couldn't have done while still keeping the original personality of the character intact.

It's an ego-driven thing, the lore writers replacing the fun old stuff with their super serious OC.
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>>317927926
>probably has the same VA as Trist
Actually, she now has the same VA as Jinx.
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>>317936105
>GP's writing and voice acting is terrible, anyway
Objectively better than it used to be. Trying to argue otherwise just makes you come off as a nostalgic idiot. Old GP's VA was routinely spammed in DotA vs LoL threads for being a prime example of the absolute dogshit tier lore and writing in LoL.

Both Sion and GP are more coherent and fleshed out characters than they were previously, both in terms of lore and in terms of gameplay.
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>>317935923
holy fuck you're mad as shit, kid, wow

I don't constantly play LoL, I play maybe a game a week, poppy was one of my favorite champs a long time ago, when I saw she was getting a rework I looked up the new moveset out of curiosity and happened by this thread so I figured I owed it to the fond memories of playing her 4 years ago to chime in

calm the fuck down, you fucking autistic sperg
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>>317935648
they are going to make all his abilities icons like like light blue generic ghost shit

They will make his lines generic and edgy but now they will just had a Karthus filter and call it a day.

They turned Karthus from Skeletor into some generic ghost shit and did the same to Morde's abilities icons.
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>>317936076
that's like your opinion man, an opinion cant be correct or false
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>>317926027
Waifu/10
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>>317936602
It can be invalid
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>>317935802
Except that they already had those "backstory, goals and motivations"

And the only "mature" thing about it is that they are yelling about MUH DEATH and MUH REVENGE all the time.

Fuck, with Poppy they went the opposite way, from a strong and determined girl with a mission to a teehee teenager. So much for "mature"

No, they're REMOVING the "mature" characters and change them into shitty edgy teenagers for most of the part.
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>>317926027
Boy I cant wait for bandlebro to make porn of this.

Boogie have gotten so srale with his sameface shit.
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>>317926842
better than "lol her mum died to bandits so she delivered the hammer to someone by herself, so that dude made her a high rank in his army so she can use the hammer he ordered but didnt want"
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Porn when
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>>317936741
Mature in the context of storytelling means developed, not old. Stop being a fucking idiot please.
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Reading this thread is cancerous, is everyone in here bronze?
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>>317936272
>Old GP's VA was routinely spammed in DotA vs LoL threads for being a prime example of the absolute dogshit tier lore and writing in LoL.
Who cares for dota fags think? Shit was golden example of good cheese.

Then again, these are the same people that took away Garen's dance and Nasus's voice.
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>>317936923
but the new designs aren't developed either
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>>317936923
>Stop being a fucking idiot please.
You're the one using the word "mature" in the context of storytelling here senpai
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>>317926027
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>>317937021
In fact, they changed a whole bunch of lores to be like 3 lines of text.

But yeah, Skarner sure has a "mature" "well-developed" backstory.
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>>317937032
Is this the first time you've heard the word outside of your parents commenting on your tantrums?
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>>317928970
Oh my God, I was wrong.
It was Earth all along.
You've finally made a monkey.
Yes, we've finally made a monkey.
Yes, you've finally made a monkey out of me.
Yes, we've finally made a monkey out of you.
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LOL
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>>317937103
I LOVE YOU DR ZAIUS
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>>317937042

Yea, this.

In the end, we men won. Let the fags cry.
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>>317926842
I think you fail to realize that the naruto-tier lore for Poppy fits a yordle quite well. I mean yordles are supposed to be campy and whimsical as a race, which is why people like most of them in the first place. I think it's poetic to be searching for a hero to give a weapon you're carrying around, but in the journey, you learn to use the weapon so well you might as well become the hero yourself.
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I stopped playing LoL after I got to plat II and the game started getting hard.
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>>317937272

>Jokes? I don't have any jokes.
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>>317935748
Urgot is beautiful. The update to his ult helps a ton. It does % damage reduction instead of arm/Mr. My favorite goofy build is urgot jungle
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>>317936868
Any idea where I can find his stuff?
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>>317937042
That's pretty cute
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>>317937363
>Urgot jungle

My eyes are tearing up and my smile is from ear to ear anon, what kind of sick but fun as fuck thing have you uncovered you sick litlle fiend
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>>317929581
>She has Tristanas voice actress
You talking out of your ass faggot.
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So, about that Warwick rework and update
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>>317936410
If this is all you have to say then why the fuck did you even bother posting retard?

Spend your time doing something more useful, like killing yourself.

>u-u-u m-mad b-bro?
>h-heh, I s-sure t-told him!
Pathetic.
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>>317933635
And what are the two good ADCs right now? because Vayne, Graves, Caitlyn, Lucian and Ezreal are all perfectly fine to play.
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>>317937659
You both look like fucking retards. Congrats, faglords.
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>>317929992
>noone cares about hero
>they turn him into a radioactive giantdad
>suddenly a fucking tsunami of negative feedback
It's like when you take away a toy from a baby it never played with and the baby starts crying. Glad at least Valve had enough balls to not change him back.
You faggots are the worst, fuck you, you deserved it.
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>>317937897
Man, fuck you. Bonerking was fine.
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>>317937697
Corki is fine to play as well. He can kill people so easily plus it's hard to itemize for him since he does all mix damage. Plus every 4-5 minutes you get a rumble ult.
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>>317926027
muh/dick
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I'm running out of fun champs with unknown power levels. I finally found a new main in top Taric after the Sion rework but every new rework makes me more nervous. I running out of "ugly" "underpowered" champs to completely surprise and wreck the enemy team with.
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>>317938024
Jinx and Twitch are alright too, I dont know what the fuck was that guy on to.
Graves is a total beast right now tho, that 120 armor/magic res out of fucking nowhere, I soloed a Shyvana and a Yaoi both full build yesterday with him, its hilarious how they run at you while you kite them and build e stacks and when they reach you they are half hp and you are already in tank mode and become unukeable, Lissandra using her combo on Graves, ult included and graves is just at 50% hp and ready to two-shoot her.
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>>317936272
>Objectively better than it used to be

Not from a voice acting standpoint. Every voice line sounds like the last; the exact same delivery; so it's like hearing the same 1 line every time. GP's original lines all sounded different, and they should have rehired the guy who did them.

Character wise, GP was already pretty fleshed out in the JoJ.
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>>317936923
Mature doesn't mean 100% dead serious all the time. You'll get this once your age no longer begins with a 1, maybe later.
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>>317937042
New artwork looks good. Less furry ears would be nice though.
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>>317929442
>arcade gankplank
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>>317926027
Its better.
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>>317937272
Poppy was an exception, which was something people liked about her. Now she sounds EXACTLY like Tristana
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>playing league
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>>317926027
Fucking adorable
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>>317937363
>>317937476
I don't get it
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>>317938756
my sides
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>>317937897
fuck you dude skeleton king was a great hero and he had his fans

no one cared about him? absolute bullshit
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I really like it, only thing I'd change is the passive.
Riot should stop implementing minigames / gimmics whereever they can
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>>317926027
Don't Poppy that floppy!
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>>317937897
no one cares about you either so you better just kill youre self.
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>>317926027
Poppy is cute!
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>>317938985
No, he was a fairly underpicked and overlooked hero.
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>>317937897
>>noone cares about hero
Because his stale as fuck gameplay was the problem, not his visuals. Now he looks AND plays boring
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>>317939375
>implying skeleton with a sword was an interesting design
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>>317939715
>implying an arbitrary change to a ghost was any more interesting
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>>317926027
why did they make my hardened demacian warrior into a blue waifu
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>>317939872
Because blue waifus are far more popular.
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>>317939845
Ghost characters in vidya are usually casters or spies/dexfags. A ghost str character is more unusuall than a skeleton str character, so yes, it is a more unique concept. Not by a huge margin, but it is.
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>>317939872
She was never a demacian. She was like her title implied she is an ambassador of Bandle City to bridge over the yordles to demacia.
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>>317940190
It's not so amazing to warrant the change, and it made him end up just looking like an aqua blob from above. I'm quite surprised you support the decision.
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>every champion gets an edgy backstory
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>>317940578
It's jarring when Rammus' (now probably former) backstory sounds good by comparison.
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>>317938756
>mfw New Gankplank is a huge EDGELORD Kunnka
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/da/Kunk_respawn_01.mp3
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>a genuine LoL discussion thread on /v/

What the fuck is happening?
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>>317926027

CUTE
U
T
E

I look forward to the dozens of dirty doujins that come from this.
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>>317926027

REMINDER THAT ILLAOI LITERALLY GOT OVERSHADOWED BY THIS

UNDENIABLE PROOF THAT CUTE AND SEXY SELLS BETTER THAN MUSCLE BOUND SHE HULK

TUMBLRINAS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>317926414
>let's change the meta again
>meta never changes, just what meme jungle item is FotM
wow
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>>317935802
you're underage. That's the problem.

When you're growing up, you obsess with the future and being an adult, but when you're an adult, reminiscing and basking in childishness is a thing you do when you have confidence in who you are.

TL/DR: "childish" is a buzzword thrown around by inconfident people.
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>>317941045
And which solo laners absolutely demolish their opposition.
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>>317940547
I support this decision mainly to spite fags who never actually played or cared about the hero but became really outraged when the change has been made. I think this is hypocritical and deserves to be ridiculed. Can understand the people who actually mained him though. I mean, you could say that I'm just a bitter contrarian, but at this point it's basically memespouting, "RETURN THE KING NEVER FORGET" etc. etc.
Both of the designs are fairly meh in my opinion, but the second one at least looks more original.
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Yeah but what does her in game model look like?
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Reasons why LoL sucks

>static meta
>baffling balance changes and reworks
>nonsensical reporting/banning system
>ranked system designed to keep you playing a lot of games constantly
>most cancerous community besides /v/

There's no reason whatsoever to play LoL.
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>>317940974
>This
and the fact Illaoi is a peice of shit character and Poppy has been secretly really OP since Season 1
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>>317941149
Both you and the people who never played him are shitheads, anon. At least you somewhat realise it though
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>tfw they fuck up your favorite champion
I-I just wanted c-cast time removed
Not this, not is...
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>>317941335
RIP GP, anon

this plus morde made me quit [tb honest]
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>>317941492
gp made me quit tbqh
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>>317941262
>There's no reason whatsoever to play LoL.

There's no reason to play a game like Dota either, if that's what you're implying.
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>>317941262
>>static meta
Wrong
>>baffling balance changes and reworks
Which is fun
>>nonsensical reporting/banning system
Which works pretty damn well
>>ranked system designed to keep you playing a lot of games constantly
Welcome to every ranked system for 5man teams, if you have a better solution go at it
>>most cancerous community besides /v/
Maybe

All in all 6/10 I got baited into replying.

By the way I havent played the game in over two years
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>>317941608

>doesn't play game
>is expert of game that he doesn't play

You are the living incarnation of /v/
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>>317941262
>static meta
Who cares about the meta?
>nonsensical reporting/banning system
Not really. "Talk shit, get hit" still applies like it does everywhere else.
>most cancerous community besides /v/
The whole genre has an equal share of the cancer.
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>>317941262
I can think of like 5 reasons
Darius
Tryndamere
Wukong
Mordekaiser
Yorick
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>>317941262
>>static meta
Stopped reading.
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>>317937897
People like Skeleton King, he was simply a bad hero (until they have him active Mortal Strike).

His redesign was bad and his re-recorded voice was also massively inferior.

I mean we went from
>"Death... my old friend"
to
>"Death is my bitch!"

So no wonder you prefer it.
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>>317941672
The shitposting for the game hasn't changed in more than two years though, and it mostly comes from people who have never played the game.

Stopped actively playing the game a long while ago, but I still like to follow its development since I feel it's a considerable influence over the market and it is an interesting case.

If he had commented on recent balance changes I'd probably have refrained from replying, but when the first point is literally "static meta" I already know it's retarded bullshit
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>>317936962
You understand that the voice actor for mass died right?
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>lol meta isn't static
>1-1-1-2 for 3 almost 4 years now
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>>317926027
LoL is killing video games yes?
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>>317942106
In Low ELO maybe, wouldnt expect a DotA2 player to get any further than that.
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>>317941962
>meta isn't static
>same roles since forever
>heroes are released based on these roles

item builds are not a fucking meta
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>>317941262
>There's no reason whatsoever to play LoL.
Wrong. Getting a few people together and playing a game of aram while having a chat is comfy.
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>>317942231
>item builds are not a fucking meta
Says who?
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>>317942220
the reason why dota players don't bother with this trash is that the barrier to entry is unreal. you have to grind or pay at least a couple hundred to be competitive. what's the point when you could just be playing a superior game? dota players have nothing to prove against lel babbies
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>>317942220
>implying i'm not dia
>implying i'm not done with this game because of what they did with GP
it was the last drop
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>>317935385

He used that handle even before he joined Blizzard, back when he was making Age of empire mods.
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>>317942028
I don't understand why they had to change it because he died. That's not usually a clause in people's contracts and people usually like that to keep existing as part of their legacy.

But whatever.
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>>317942427
>the reason why dota players don't bother with this trash is that the barrier to entry is unreal.
If you cant carry with 450/1350 IP champs you're a fucking scrub. Tristana is high in the meta right now and she's free, Garen after rework is one of the better top laners and also free, and Alistar has always been godlike and the new masteries give him retarded support ability, also free.

Yi, Kayle, Annie and Ryze are 450 and still considered op and broken if you have the slightest bit of skill.
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>>317941923
well, that line in specific fits the lore, since he went from a dead skeleton to an undead Wraith, and finally overcame death, kinda. The skeleton puns were cooler, tough.
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With how hard riot tries to pander i'm surprised it took them so long to add a furbait champion.
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>>317942427
>the reason why dota players don't bother with this trash is that the barrier to entry is unreal. you have to grind or pay at least a couple hundred to be competitive. what's the point when you could just be playing a superior game? dota players have nothing to prove against lel babbies

Barrier of entry is even higher in Dota, but for a different reason.
The fact that a vast majority of of the Dota playerbase can't even play the game on a basic level yet continue to be incredibly elitist is staggering.
There isn't even a point in getting good either since you'll never get well-balanced matches. You can't even play it more casually either since everyone takes the game seriously, even in unranked. So unless you like to play some shitty custom maps why even bother to install Dota?
I say this as someone with 3700 hours played and I regret every single minute of it.
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>>317942220
what? In competitive, the most creative the teams get is lane switching. Anything beyond that, Riot nerfs in the next patch, because it's breaking their precious meta.
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>>317926027
Reworks = Excuses for stealth nerfs.
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>>317942231
>>meta isn't static
>>same roles since forever
>>heroes are released based on these roles

>item builds are not a fucking meta

First, im sorry to inform you that item builds are in fact part of the metagame, you might want to look up the definition.

Second, it's not the only thing that changes in the meta, for some very obvious meta changes through the history you might want to look at how alistar or nautilus have been played in every lane and the jungle depending on the patch or how midlaners have turned into supports or toplaners.

Then we have matters of tempo and strats, which obviously also change through time.

Then we have how people play specific champions, which also changes over time.
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>>317942770
Alistar and Rengar don't count?
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>>317926027
Riot is fucking awful at gameplay, but amazing at making characters people will latch onto and become "fans" of.

Anyone with actual taste just cringes at their shit though.
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>>317942427
>dota players have nothing to prove against lel babbies

This must be why we have gotten 4 years of dotards trying to prove their game is better lmao
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>>317942725
>well, that line in specific fits the lore, since he went from a dead skeleton to an undead Wraith, and finally overcame death, kinda. The skeleton puns were cooler, tough.

The delivery and lines were better in the Skeleton King iteration.
Many of his new lines sounds like something the twitch chat came up with.
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>>317942965
Don't forget Nasus, Rekenton, Azir, and Anivia,
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>>317942571
But she would've been fine without the booster seat, considering how tall the chair seems to be.
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>>317942782
As a former League player with over 1000 games this is such bullshit. Dota has a way higher barrier of entry, and to get to a decent level in Dota it takes way more brain, practice and skill. If you played over 100 games in both of those you would realize how much bullshit this post is, and you're a riot shilltard.
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>>317942220
Good thing Dota 2 is literally dying.

Wont have to listen to you in a few years time when there are only 100k players.
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>>317943252
>As a former League player with over 1000 games this is such bullshit. Dota has a way higher barrier of entry, and to get to a decent level in Dota it takes way more brain, practice and skill. If you played over 100 games in both of those you would realize how much bullshit this post is, and you're a riot shilltard.

You seem to be exceptionally illiterate.
Try re-reading what I said.
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>>317943369
I find it funny how if Valve wasn't pumping millions of pot money into the game, DotA2 would basically be dead.
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>>317942719
>high in the meta right now

here we go again with this meta shit. lel doesn't have a meta at this point and hasn't had one in six years. how many times are we going to go over this, neo /v/?
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>>317943378
And you never played Dota. That's obvious. Most people don't take the game seriously,even in ranked. I climbed to 5k and I still get people picking shit heroes and just doing general pub stuff. No one in unranked cares for strategy, winning, etc. they just play for fun. But I digress, go suck some Riot cock shill.
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I get that urge to play League every now and again with the boys. My old main got perma'd so it's kinda hard to pick the game back up again.

Dota spoils the hell out of you. Why would I even want to touch something I have to grind my ass off for? Runes and masteries? A hero pool that is more than 5?

I'd rather just play Dota, honestly.
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>>317942782
>>317943252
i can see why the barrier to entry in dota seems a lot higher for dumb fucking lelbabbies. you actually have to learn shit instead of artificial barriers like in lel. it comes naturally in dota. it's a grind in lel.
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>>317929184
I used to play LoL all the time, morde was rape mode for a while. He was popular around when renekton came out I think.

Then they nerfed the shit out of his shield and he didn't get played much anymore
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>>317932312
I did exactly the same. As soon as i got Dota 2 beta key i dropped League. Came back to try and play my boy Olaf again and he was shit tier
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>>317943476
>I find it funny how if Valve wasn't pumping millions of pot money into the game, DotA2 would basically be dead.
Except its not valve, its the valvedrones buying cosmetics and whatever the international books are called. Valve puts in less than Riot puts in, but with the book it gets as high as it does.
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>>317943710
Riot has the gift to ruin champions with nerfs (and "reworks").
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>>317937659
You think your post is any better?
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>>317943579
>And you never played Dota. That's obvious.

Sure.

>Most people don't take the game seriously,even in ranked.

Maybe you should stop lying. It was pretty common for people to rage even at the picking stage in ranked. I'm not talking 2k mmr here, but 4-5k mmr players since those are the players I was matched with.

Also like I said, you're an illiterate idiot that didn't even understand my post you initially replied to. I said that Dota 2 has an even higher barrier of entry and that the game is too complicated for most of the people that play it.
It really doesn't help that Valve doesn't even try to help teach people the game properly.

I did not praise LoL in any way in my post, but by all means keep calling me a Riot shill even though I have maybe 2-3h total played of LoL and have 0 interest in playing it. After all, that is the only tactic the mindless Valve (not Dota) fanboys seem ot have.
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>>317935802
>well-developed characters with backstory, goals and motivations
except they literally butchered the lore?
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Is this a thread for remembering our fallen comrades?

RIP DFG
RIP Syndra
RIP Tristana
RIP Veigar
RIP Revive
RIP Homeguard
RIP Rammus
RIP Hecarim
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That's nice and all, but I'm going back playing lol only once they update the champion select system. I hate struggling with other faggots.
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>>317944146
>doesn't remember locket, tiamat twitch and sunfire stacking garen

hi underage
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>>317937897
fucking chinks
I like skeletons
who the fuck doesn't like skeletons
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>>317944059
> Maybe you should stop lying. It was pretty common for people to rage even at the picking stage in ranked. I'm not talking 2k mmr here, but 4-5k mmr players since those are the players I was matched with.
Ayy lmao, no.
You're just butthurt you didn't get gud in time and are constantly getting stomped in unranked/ranked.
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