Tell me Captain. If Starfleet is so great, why are there no good Star Trek games?
because the franchise sucks troll anus
>>317875113
It's a series about social commentary through allegorical diplomacy with alien races. It doesn't exactly lend itself to a fun game
The MMO is alright
Makes me sad to see that these thread don't get the same attention that they used to.
>Elite Force 1/2
>Starfleet Command
>Bridge Commander
That anniversary point and click game from like 92 is great.
>>317875575
>giving the real answer
>>317875113
System Shock 1 & 2 was just released on Steam
>>317875575
it could but it'd end up more like a grand strategy or one of those telltale "MAKE CHOICES btw ur choices don't matter" kind of games
>>317875575
Its made plenty of fun games, though
>>317877084
Yes it is. The sequel is even better
>>317877687
>it's a Troi or Wesley episode
>>317878573
Yeah, some. Most of those though are just shooters or spaceship battle games which just slap the Star Trek aesthetic on. Few which really capture the essence of the series but point & click adventures is one of the genres than can. If OP wants a good Star Trek game. Maybe the Star Trek themed Settlers of Catan
>>317879098
>it's a lwaxana episode
>it's a Brent Spinner plays every character episode
>it's a quark goes in wacky hijinks episode
>it's a Best Cardassian episode
>>317880069
aww yes
Because every single star trek games was developed and created by klingons.
>>317880069
>Best Cardassian
Best Cardassian? Why my dear Anon, I'm just a simple tailor.
I'm going through Voyager right now. Why does no one like it? It's like TNG without the hamfisted aesopian moral BS.
>>317881035
Because the Captain gets them into trouble and never takes personal responsibility when she has an opportunity to get them out of it afterward. The premise is squandered, the characters are dull, the plots are absurd (hyper evolved space geckos) and it neutered the Borg.
>it's a Damar hides his depression by drinking episode
fuck off Dukat, elite force 1 and 2 are both great
>>317881035
It has its ups and downs but its downs are atrocious. They couldn't seem to agree on a single characterization for Janeway so she comes off as schizophrenic. Chakotay's actor was actively trying to get himself fired, which is why his performance gets worse. Warp 10 lizards.
>>317881035
i enjoyed voyager on the whole, but the Captain is a full blown retard that almost gets the crew killed countless times while shitting all over the prime directive
>>317881035
Loved Voyager. My mother basically grew me up on that series. She literally watches it a few teams each year along with some Deep Space Nine. I don't like Captain Janeway much. She only bends the rules when it suits her. Makes sense though.
>>317875575
But DiplomacyMass Effect,and Civ are fantastic games.
>>317881382
>>317881237
>>317881465
>>317881532
Fair enough. Although all the captains "bend the rules" when they feel like it. Except for the lizards. They get undue hate imo.
To me, that episode was about something weird and alien happening and the crew dealing with it. Which is what all trek should be.
>>317881465
>>317881532
>>317881035
My VOY niggers.
>It's a Mirror Universe episode
>>317881532
who teams your mom while she watches it? I'll bet it's Dukat AND Garak. Right in her Demilitarized Zone eh? *nudge nudge*
>>317879795
>>317881714
>that picture
PLS
>>317881928
Oh, you!
>it's a Chief O'Brien Must Suffer episode
>>317882115
i feel like whenever the writers had no idea what to write they just decided to torture o'brian with something
I just started TNG. When does Riker get his sick ass beard?
>>317881928
>deuxcat
>>317881035
Voyager is great but not nearly as good as TNG and DS9, those two transcend criticism.
It has its good and bad episodes but I really liked the whole 'oh shit we're fucked in the middle of no-where with a 75 year trip home' and fleshing out the Borg a lot more.
>>317882291
start of season 3, also when the show gets good
>>317882291
The beard is a separate character and is introduced in season 2.
>It's a Janeway commits genocide episode
>it's a the writers forgot about the torpedoes because they just didn't care episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIGxMENwq1k
>>317882430
Go back to reddit. And take your shitty meme with you you fucking pleb.
>>317882317
DS9 starts out awful. I keep meaning to go back to it because I never made it to the Dominion Wars, but it's so hard. Also Worf killed Gowron, and the existence of the Defiant pisses me off.
>it's a Doctor episode
>>317881035
Holo Doctor OP pls nerf
>>317882317
>It's a Doctor episode
>>317882664
>>317882476
>holodeck episode on VOY
>>317882317
TNG actually has my least favorite trek episode. It's the one where they find two disparate human colonies, and, instead of helping them or leaving them alone, Riker murders two people and forces the scientist society to breed with Victorian era Irish steryotypes.
>>317882770
>those cheesy sci-fi holodeck program episodes
>>317881035
Is there a guide like this for TNG? I'd rather avoid watching really shit episodes.
I watched the entirety of TOS and some episodes made me want to kill myself.
>it's an O'brien must suffer episode.
>>317881835
>It's a Lt. Paris meets He-Man episode
>>317882897
O'Brien had a hard life...
>>317882897
>ie. every episode of TNG and a metric shitload of DS9
Lt. Yar makes my lower parts tingle.
>It's a Lieutenant Barclay episode
>It's a Q episode
>>317881035
I loved VOY because it was more like TOS. They're actually charting totally unknown territory, their ship, while powerful, isn't a flying hotel/dreadnought. The Captain is flawed, and the crew is bunch of talented fuckups. There are definitely bad episodes, but the overall concept was great.
>>317882860
Citizen of earth, Surrender. Do not resist.
>it's a Quark gets a sex change episode
>>317883138
Hey Barclay's awesome and he also voiced Harman Smith in Killer 7
>>317883103
Lt. Yar almost made me quit watching. Her return was cool, though.
>>317883374
Which one?
>>317883364
He's also Murdock from the A-Team
>>317883364
I don't hate the character, but he suffers almost as much as O'Brien. Except it's all in his head.
>>317881580
>Mfw playing ME1 thinking about how awesome this series is going to be
>finally someones made a cool space RPG with star trek themes
>mfw imagining the rest of the series just being 1 off games telling secular stories ala Star Trek with Shephard being the Kirk archetype sexing aliens while adventuring
>mfwSovereign and all of my dreams were dashed by GALACTIC ANCIENT EVIL
Feels so bad man. I just want a Scifi RPG in the vein of ME where the stakes are dire but never supremely dire. Im so fucking sick of the Stakes always being insanely high in video games these days.
There's a Star Trek currently on GoG
http://www.gog.com/promo/only_on_gogcom_promo_star_trek_bundle_241115
>>317883457
I don't remember the specific episodes, but I liked Natasha Yar because bitchy Romulans are my fetish.
Anyone play the MMO?
>>317883701
I did for a little bit. It's got a lot of things I like about it, but in the end it's an MMO.
>>317883586
They made him look like a faggot, but his transporter fear is legit.
25th Anniversary was a good game.
>it's a That Shitty Episode About Women Stealing Black People From TNG Rewritten To Be About Mongols For SG-1 episode
That TNG game on the NES/GB was good
>>317882223
They already stated they wanted an "O'brien must suffer" episode at least once a season in DS9.
>>317883597
what an exciting episode it was none the less
ALL HAIL GARAK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWiWD3reF8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jW5weeu3kQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StF9jrhw-pU
>another awful day at engineering
>your superiors mock you
>your juniors don't respect you
>go to holodeck 2 after work to blow up some steam
>start Program Ryona 1
>the room gets filled with the screams of little girls being punished and raped.
>tfw the voice of the Captain behind you reminds you privacy doesn't exist in the 24th century
>>317883316
Someone thought this was a good idea.It was.
>>317883225
Someone mentioned that Janeway was bipolar in that Equinox episode.
Someone seriously needs to start streaming seasons for us.
>>317883701
The space combat is 10/10 GotY material. But it shits itself with the ground missions even after several revamps. Only get into it if you can stomach the grind of a F2P game and get massive erections over ship combat.
>>317883586
>it's all in his head
Except when he finds out people are trapped in a hellish nightmare of non-existence in the transporter buffer
>>317883225
I liked most episodes but I couldn't stomach Belana anymore and skipped a couple episodes about her in the last season.
>>317884602
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/altoids-trek-subs
>>317884454
>Riker, you're nothing but a pretty mannequin in a fancy uniform. You're full of hot air. If Picard has a problem with me, you can tell him to come and talk to me himself. (Geordi leaves, fast, as Barclay swaggers over to Troi)
>Computer, run Troi facefuck program #9
What did he mean by this?
>>317875113
IMPLYING I'M NOT SLAPPING YOUR SHIT RIGHT NOW, YOUR ORGANIZATION IS NAMED AFTER NIGGERS!
>>317884454
no room for privacy on a starship where a small mistake can kill thousands aboard
Im sure Troy monitors everyones holodeck time to weed out the crazies.
>>317884889
>never experiencing a betazed gill scrub
>>317884454
It's funny that there are little to no security cameras on the Enterprise, and had to rely on heat signatures or commbadge signals to track someone.
>the Cardassians and Klingons had a war that started over the Betrekka Nebula, which is in Federation space
>the Federation apparently did nothing about it
Yeah, sounds about right
>>317884454
>tfw you realize if you were thrust into Starfleet, you'd be a less competent Broccoli.
>>317882792
>murders two people
Unfinished clones of Riker and best doctor aren't people.
As Riker said, its his body, and his right to decide what is done with his cells.
>>317885164
>mfw I'll never be a Harry Kim
>>317881035
Because the cast for voyager sucks. There are a couple of characters who have their moments and also 7's tits and ass. But that's about it.
Had some really good sub stories though. The Annorax episodes were top tier trek.
>>317885296I liked Tuvok Shakur
>>317885230
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post.
![innocence[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/P2ATeo3.jpg "innocence[1].jpg")
>>317881382
>It's a "Let be tell you about the bone's of my people, a chooky moya" episode
>>317881532
Were you raised by lesbians?
>It's an aliens will instantly fuck you up if they even touch you episode.
>>317885639
>2015
>not being raised by a coven of Trek-loving Lesbians
>It's a Janeway won't take one for the team and have Q's baby without even pregnancy or labor in exchange for instant teleportation home so no more of her crew has to die due to her decision to blow up the relay that stranded them in the delta quadrant in the first place episode
..seriously fuck Janeway
>>317882317
>Transcend criticism
you wot?
~1/3 of the episodes of both TNG and DS9 are cringeworthy bad.
>It's ayou don't know what it's like in our universe. 4chan is gone, the Redditors are shitposting everywhere! There's only a a few good OC left, please you have to help us!
>>317885997
>implying she isn't permanently bloodbound to Tom Paris after both were turned into primordial amphibians
>>317886090
I watched TNG for the first time all the way through a few years ago and this is one of the few times I was genuinely freaked out. Frakes was pretty great in that scene.
Barclay's final form is the best.
>It's a Bajor-centric episode
>>317885440
Me too anon. He was the best character aside from 7's ASSets.
>>317886182
hahaha fine but honestly that episode makes me furious. If I was one of her crew and heard that she refused that deal I would tell her that if I missed one more day of being with my family because she's too much of a strong independent woman who don't need no baby then I would personally hold her down by the throat while Q sticks her with his god rod.
>>317883701
i enjoyed it, but i'm not sure i can say the grind is worth it without bias becausei got one of those ridiculously rare ships off the market after someone listed it for 1/1000th of its normal price
>>317886483
>He didn't savor every second Kira was in the spotlight
Get out.
>Bird of Pray cloak
>Attack Patten: Alpha
>Attack Patten: Omega
>Cannon: Rapid Fire
>Torpedo: Heavy
Murdering 10-40 FEDs in Ker'rat was fun while it lasted
>>317887104
>implying even Nana Visitor in tight clothing could save those borefests
Why are FEDs such insufferable pussies when it comes to anything that's not shipbound?
>It's a Kes episode
>>317885552
gezundheit
Elite Force 2 was very good at the time it came out. It hasn't aged all that well but it's still quite playable.
>>317887492
>It's a Harry Kim episode
>>317875739
>decide to try the MMO
>greeted by a vulcan without eyes in character creator
>okay that's a little creepy I guess I'll be a human instead
>you're a captain now, harry!
>do the boring ass tutorials
>finally get a mission
>float around space trying to figure out where the fuck to go for an hour
>finally figure out where the fuck to go
>get attacked by two drones and you can't steer this pile of shit starfleet dick fuck ass kaboom
Oh yeah it's great
Does Kira's actress still look like she's a crackwhore?
>it's a Constable Odo rules post-apocalypse Las Vegas episode
>>317882664
>>317882673
>>317882749
Doctormind
>>317881382
Was he really?
It's incredibly stupid that they kept him on through contract considering they probably could have killed him off and had Tuvok become the 1st officer. I doubt anyone would have objected with all the fake native american shit Chakotay was spewing thanks to a fraud of a cultural consultant.
>>317881253
>>317887956
He was, yes. He kept under acting and demanding pay rises, they kept giving them to him
>>317883701
Orions are pretty.
>everyone gets to direct an episode and get into some secret directors club in voyager
>they didn't let harry kim direct
fucking racist jews.
>Attack pattern Delta
What did he mean by this?
>>317887767
>losing the very first non-tutorial fight
I'm sorry you're so bad at videogames
Maybe books are more your speed?
>>317887798
Sure, but she's the sexiest crackwhore you've ever met.
>>317881035
I recently rewatched both Voyager and DS9 (in that order), and I can tell you that DS9 is at least 10 times better than Voyager, although Voyager does have its moments. I actually teared up during the episode whereNeelix leaves to join a Talaxian colony.
>>317888242
I'm actually really good at video games. STO is a really bad cash grab just like every other MMORPG these days and you know it.
>>317887767
The MMO is the one of the easiest games ever. I'm sorry for your lots.
>>317882317
I only watched a handful of VOY episodes back when it first ran.
I watch all of ENT recently and they pretty much did the same thing in S3. I thought it worked out pretty well too.
>>317888130
That's because he talked shit about Voy early on, they wanted to kill him off but he was named one of the sexiest men of the year so they couldn't because of the good press that generated. But damn if they didn't do everything possible to fuck with him.
>>317888130
Have you ever seen how the guy behaves off the set? He's weird as fuck.
>>317888331
Sure, Voyager episodes were bad and they came back covered in blood. But the felt CLEAN.
Why did they feel clean? Because they WERE clean, anon.
>>317888379
I'm sure you must be absolute amazing at video games.
>>317888180
Hard to port.
>>317888527
That depends on whetherJaneway was charged for her future self breaking the temporal prime directive.
>>317888515
>>317888515
just call yourself a method actor then people will excuse it.
>>317888547
So you're saying I'm bad at video games because I have a hard time steering a ship that's designed to be poorly steered?
>>317888379
No, anon, I'm sorry but your starter ship has basically 360 degrees of fire and level 1 ships have so little health you can kill them both in under 30 seconds
You literally just have to target them, engage autofire and AFK
>>317878998
that moment I knew Season 2 would be better in every way
>>317887724
>fails to create a reasonable facsimile of the EMH
>makes hologram of infamous Cardassian doctor perfectly just days later
Seriously?
>>317888707
I was firing lasers every time it was up and I still lost, so apparently you're wrong.
>>317888180
>Attack pattern Delta
It means try spinning. That's a good trick!
Because Starfleet doesn't make the games.
The Fallen was good. So was Klingon Academy. Elite Force 1 and 2 were both excellent.
Also, I didn't hate STO.
>>317888668
Pretty much, there is literally no excuse outside of having some kind of mental disability
>>317888886
No it just means you're hilariously bad at the vidya
>>317888940
>>317888948
Nah, the game is shit.
>>317884454
>>317884889
>>317885028
Oh lawdy.
>>317888641
She's a woman, so she got off easy. Unlike Branson, who got arrested, including his younger self who hasn't commited the crime yet.
>>317889231
Even 300 years in the future fucking SJWs are ruining everything
>>317888594
>>317888897
So when does the "attack" part come in?
>it's a JESUS CHRIST, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING episode
Seven of Nine's actress was married. One time her husband forced her to dress like a slut, go to a sex bar and suck off a bunch of strangers
>>317889412
Then the god damn dems leaked his divorce papers and we get kai winn voted in.
Thanks janeway.
>>317889398
My only problem with that episode was that it wasn't the season finale.
>>317884642
They rebalanced ground last year, its better than shit now. Ground skills are much more modular like ships are and your trait/level bonus stuff isn't so punishingly segregated.
>>317889398
roddenberry refused the idea of having starfleet personnel committing mutiny, so they had to put in aliens so he would let it go to air
>>317889398
>they were meant to be the precursor to the Borg, who were originally meant to be insectoid
>the episode was going to be about regular corrupt Admirals but Roddenberry said no because humans in TNG are meant to be perfect
>>317889557
This.
>>317888331
Tears of joy I hope
>>317887192
Beam overload and a dual beam bank does the same job but better for a cloak alpha strike hit and run.
>>317882317
>TNG and DS9, those two transcend criticism.
Your kidding right? The first two seasons of TNG are awful and even after their is still many poor episodes, DS9 was more consistently good but it's first couple seasons were also weak.
>>317889935
>beams on a BoP
>it's a Data episode
>it's a Q episode
>it's an Holodeck episode
>it's an Odo episode
>it's a doctor episode
>it's a feels episode (The Visitor/The Offspring)
>>317890123
>it's a Data episode
>It's a Lwaxana episode
>It's a Bajoran government episode
>That one episode Riker filler episode
>>317890072
Why is Sisko so goddamn angry all the time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crpUHa9_pJ0
>>317881035
Subpar acting (bear in mind much of this was on at the same time as DS9)
Neutered plot - the ship should have been limping along, getting damaged along the way. It should be struggle, but it looked like a Sunday stroll.
Way too much reliance on holodeck episodes. (All of them had this issue, but Voy seemed the worst for it).
Is Star Trek worth watching? Should I start with the original series?
>It's a Jake episode
>>317890573
TNG is all you ever really need.
>>317890072
I know man,I know. First time I heard of this I reacted the same way,who the fuck uses dual beams? All the draw backs of cannons and beams in one weapon!
Thing is when you stack the cloak attack bonus, beam overload and self buffs it turns the bop into a can opener. You fire once and then book it to recloak, meanwhile your victim is either dead or about to die to your team. Great in pvp but worthless in pve.
>It's a racism episode
>It's a nig and nog episode
>>317889717
>regular corrupt admirals
so janeway?
>>317890578
>It's THAT Jake episode.
>>317890573
start with the original series its not long and it sets the trek formula
that and movies 1-4 if you want as well
>>317890573
production order is always good
just skip S3E1 of the original series and S2E15 of voyager
don't ask why
>>317889981
Interesting how it took 2 seasons for both tng/ds9 to hit their strides while enterprise took 4.
>>317890428
Fun fact, Sisko's actor is now a college professor and is super fucking chill.
>>317890573
TOS is camp
TNG is about philosophy
DS9 is about politics
VOY is about coffee
>>317890887
>super fucking chill
He's also really weird
>>317890889
>DS9 is about politics
DS9 is about how spirituality (belief in god) can be logical. It's propaganda in its worst form.
>>317879170
Huh, I wonder if Telltale has considered seeking the Star Trek game rights.
>>317890887
>>317890981
was sisko a stage actor?
>>317890981
Dude sings opera.
I worked at a star trek con in 2012, sisko was the only captain that didn't charge for his talk segments.
>>317891149
people will reply to this post in a serious manner
trek has plenty of good games
where is my LOTGH game?
>>317891242
in its native language
>>317891242
http://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Legend_of_Galactic_Heroes_%282008_game%29
>>317883597
I know that feel. Maybe it would have been a big risk to not have le ancient evil. Though it feels to me like most of Bioware's fans are people who just want to skip combat and get to dialogue scenes
>>317891408
fucking bioware CANADA was truly the worst.
![4a2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WQsWdeW.jpg "4a2[1].jpg")
>tfw no good TNG movie
>>317891180
I don't think Avery Brooks did Shakespeare like William Shatner and Patrick Stewart
>>317891554
I just consider the 2 parters to be the movies
>>317891209
I'm not baiting though. TNG has a lot of new age hipster bullshit, and even a few episodes where extra-terrestrials acted like gods over human-like beings, thus "validating" a believe in the super-natural / spiritual / religious.
But at the same time TNG holds very atheistic views. Captain Picard most especially.
>>317891404
I played that I couldnt find a translation and it wasnt very fun.
>modern star trek being made
>filled with muslims that aren't aliens
oh boy... can't wait
their religion makes space travel and aliens as haram
>>317891629
this is a thread about star trek video games, not star trek politics
>>317891759
I'm not talking about politics, I'm talking about religion and how DS9 is shit.
VOY < DS9 <ENT< the rest
>>317889153
>sto
>good
>stsfc3
>but not stsfc2
Wow you're dumb.
TOS is so fucking great.
>>317891629
its not about hipster bullshit
humanity can expand to the stars and travel faster then light yet there are still mysteries
what about the Q? maybe its all just them fucking with us
>>317889398
That's the best episode of early TNG.
>>317888987
Can I ask you a question? I'm trying to understand cognitive dissonance; when multiple people who have played the same game you have say you're shit, are your attempts to redirect the fault of your negative experience onto the game a conscious effort in order to save face and prevent yourself from believing that you're simply bad at video games, or do you actually believe your experience to be the "correct" one, that it is the game that is bad and not yourself?
>>317891149
It's also a show about how religion can be used for the worst crimes.
>>317892005
never tell me the odds.
>>317892198
>the worst crimes
Like ruining Gul Dukat's character because the writers finally got sick of people liking him
>>317891902
I always thought of Q as a means to explore the temporal. There's no real evidence that we can travel through time but it's still interesting.
>>317891976
Allow me to counter your question with my own question, if I may. Why are you ignoring the parts about:
1. The predictable story
2. The bugged character creation
3. The jank ass controls and
4. The stupid ass overworld / overgrid / over-universe whatever
Why focus on that instead of all the other obvious problems the game has? And what's really laughable is that you can't even tell me that piloting the beginner ship is silky and smooth and easy.
>>317891976
You forgot your le epic freud image man.
>>317892296
>>317892198
Funny how in other treks. kirk/picard/ janeway would have exposed the worm hole aliens "prophets" as frauds and exposed them for the abusive aliens they are in a 2 part episode but we gotta deal with their jew shit in ds9 because you dont want to offend the dirty bajorans.
>>317891149
I never considered DS9 to be any real look at religion because there are actual like psychical metaphysical objects and a real wormhole that they worship so its nothing like any real religion
I always felt it supposed to be a blatant "space isreal"
>>317892828
There are those oracles and crystals and all those other super-natural events that really don't have any explanation given in the series.
I thought the same thing about the space isreal, honestly and I found that pretty interesting but the whole super-natural theme of the series really made me feel dirty watching it.
How did any of the DS9 crew pay Quark when they don't get paychecks
>>317893029
yea i rather have an asspull space fight where they pyrric victory instead of snappin fingers disseapearing the whole dominon fleet. I guess it was budget was more of a priority than story and action.
>>317893152
Im pretty sure I remember some kind of mention of Starfleet providing some kind of stipend to personnel assigned to areas that still have traditional commerce
>>317892459
1: yes the tutorial is shit but once you get past that and some of the early content it's actually good story wise
2: the "bugged" character creation is just a placeholder alien for the create-your-own-species option, maybe if you read it more carefully you would've noticed this
3: i'm not sure what to say, beyond that turning in combat isn't important unless you're packing a specific weapon type
4: there's literally a button that autopilots your ship to wherever you need to go, so i guess you don't read tutorials very well either
5: you're still shit at this very easy game
>>317890787
He said corrupt, not reckless, inconsistent fools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA
>The Inner Light
>>317889670
Which makes it more fun that Roddenberry would fight the idea of flaws in humanity tooth and nail, but is perfectly alright with graphic gore. S&P must have been wasted out of his mind to approve a guy's face being shown melted off and exploding.
>>317893184
They already blew their budget with some of those space battles. It's why they had to reuse clips for the final battle.
>new star trek
>new twin peaks
neat
>>317893907
>kurns actor
man that nigga got dealt a shitty hand.
Fucking worf.
Aren't there occasions in trek where some human gets power hungry and does bad things? Is that only after Gene died?
>>317894038
>melted off and explioding
ITs okay when its lasers? Not icky guns? See gi joe and modern cartoons for example!
Lasers = okay
guns = BAD YOUR RACIST RAPIST
>>317893606
>agrees the tutorial is shit
>agrees the creator is bugged
>agrees that piloting is janky
>admits you need to auto pilot
And yet I'm shit and not your shitty game, right? Fuck off, ya muppet.
>>317894186
Yes, DS9 had a two parter about an Admiral using the Dominion threat to plot a military coup of Earth and the Federation
Gene would have shit his spleen out if someone had suggested that happen in Season 1/2 TNG
>>317894186
there are, but they're never more than single persons, exceptions to the rule
roddenberry evidently had problems with the idea of corrupt humans being common enough to conspire together
>>317894475
The problem was that Gene's vision for TNG was that humanity was finally perfect and all conflict on the show was meant to come from enlightened humanity butting heads with imperfect, unenlightened aliens
>>317882223
You mean Worf right? Cause I'm pretty sure you mean Worf.
>>317895197
which i personally think is reflective of the man's constant issues to not put away his political views and visions for the sake of a well-written story
>>317893924
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7iEj4M4778
Why did the bajorans suddenly become unstoppable killing machines? It was implied at first that their resistance had no significant effect on the Cardassian occupation, even their greatest war hero just kind of stabbed a dude when he was naked. It was something the Cardassians would taunt the bajorans with.
Then Nariz suddenly became the go to expert for assymetrical warfare (in space, no less), and I think in that episode where Kira's dad dies she gets angry at herself for only killing two dozen or so "cardies".
Forget Ducats weird turn as a character. Someone explain the bajorans to me.
>>317897086
They're like the Jews, being completely useless until they get support from a much larger friend.
>It's a kirk finds 'murica on an alien planet episode
Roddenberry wanted THIS as the first episode of the series.
>>317897262
It's more than that though. It's like in the last two seasons they decided to throw away everything that made the show interesting for NO reason. When the bajorans became unstoppable killing machines, it was as if the entire universe decided that it had always been that way.
>>317875113
Try Starfleet Academy. It's old as balls, but holy fuck is it great. Also STO is pretty fun, though that's more opinion than fact.
>>317890573
Yes.
>>317897479
This is what I hated most about TOS. It didn't feel like they were exploring space. It was more like time traveling.
>it's a 'Aliens from another quadrant Roleplay Nazis in the Holodeck for reasons' episode
>it's a baseball episode
