>200 year old fishpacking plant filled with feral ghouls
>fish haven't rotted away or been eaten, all of them are intact on the non-moving conveyer belt
BRAVO HOWARD
>>317855784
Very immersive game
>>317855784
that's clearly a plastic toy fish
>>317855908
I'd still eat it
>200 years
>trees are still dead
if this was real then nagasaki and hiroshima would still be fucked and chernobyl would be a wasteland and not a normal looking forest with natural wildlife
radiation did shit to the animals and plants
>>317856127
>I'd still fuck it
Fix'd your typo anon, no need to thank me.
I'm still astonished at the level of care and attention to detail that Bethesda gives to their games. Truly, the most immersive experiences that vidya has to offer.
>>317856204
None of it makes sense. People have been living in towns for decades and it's still filled with broken shit and garbage. Sure, for the first couple of years it might not be that important, but you'd think someone would repair or patch the buildings after some time.
I know the devs said that they're after the post-apocalyptic feel even if it doesn't make sense, but they could have done something better.
Fuck, why not say that some radioactive fog covered this state/town/area for many years and has only drifted away 1-2 years ago? That would explain why everything still looks like shit and why nobody bothered to loot the empty building 2 minutes away from where they live.
They're being lazy fucks as always.
>>317856545
The thing is, you can just walk away from people mid conversation if you don't want to help them.
>>317856545
>first two responses are identical
>none of them are a "no" response
>>317856804
Bethesda are retarded and insisted on setting the games (Fo3/Fo4) after Fallout 2. If they were set around the same time as Fallout 1 it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
Fallout 1 is a post-apocalyptic game, Fallout 2 and Fallout New Vegas are post-post-apocalyptic games, and Fallout 3/Fallout 4 which are set around the same time as New Vegas are run-down "20 years after the bombs dropped" sorta feel post-apocalyptic games. It's just Bethesda completely misunderstanding the setting of the franchise they bought.
>>317856545
i know the vanilla game says something else but that is literally
(Y) YES?
(X) YES? (B) YES
(X)HATE YES
>>317856804
because radioactive fog is a stupid explaination
the fact that the area was bombed to hell is understandable for most people.
people who have studied the effects of nuclear weapons/radiation will think the fallout games make no sense but those people are in a vast minority
>>317857017
I agree that might be considered a thing.
You haven't explained how it is a good thing though.
>>317857017
That's not the point.
>>317857047
>Fallout 1 is a post-apocalyptic game
So are 2, 2, New Vegas, 4, Tactics and BoS
>Fallout 2 and Fallout New Vegas are post-post-apocalyptic games
>post-post-apocalyptic
No such genre exists you fucking retard.
>>317856545
You've already accepted the quest. I don't think they actual where ready for someone to be autistic enough to walk across the wasteland, and then say "no, I'm not the right person" instead of just shrugging it off and walking away.
>>317857064
So basically only idiots enjoy the setting? Gotcha
>>317856275
Thank you anyway, I don't know what I'd do if there weren't kind anons like you
>>317857283
If you dont think post post apocalyptic is a genre then you are a fucking dumbass
>>317857017
You can't just say "no" or "polite no"
if the game claims to be an RPG, you should not have your options castrated because the devs want a radial menu gui
>>317855784
The power of radioactive nuclear fallout! If it can keep mutated people alive for 200 years why can't it keep dead fish intact?
>>317857374
Find me a single credible source defining it and how that definition isn't already covered by "post-apocalyptic" before calling anyone else a dumbass, you fucking mouthbreather.
>>317857294
Get a load of this apologetic faggot.
>>317857374
Wouldn't post post apocalyptic just be general fantasy or sci-fi at that point?
>>317855784
their excuse?
magical radiation
not jOking
>>317857298
>only idiots dont know about nuclear radation
>>317857620
> Being triggered by having too many dialogue options.
I wish the older games would have given me this room to role-play. Instead of acting like a robot, there's an emotional difference in the tone of each words.
>>317857294
>"I did come all the way out here to help someone, but now that I see it's you... nevermind"
Hire me Bethesda.
![500px-S1e3_mabel_new_wax_figure[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JS3ukkp.png "500px-S1e3_mabel_new_wax_figure[1].png")
>>317856545
I rigged it!
>>317857943
>I thought I'd be helping a decent person out, not running an errand for some fucking nigger
There. That wasn't too hard.
>>317857283
Post-post apocalyptic is not the aftermath of an apocalypse, but what happens after people have struggled by the initial trouble that the apocalypse left.
The NCR is building a government and trying to gain influence in Northern California during the events of Fallout 2, Redding is hooked on Jet and multiple factions are vying for control of Redding, the NCR hired a New Reno family to get mercenaries to attack Vault City, to make Vault City submit and beg the NCR for help. The Enclave are trying to unleash FEV to purge the mainland and make america great again.
Fallout 2 is all about politics in a post-nuclear world, not about the initial struggles through the radiation and lack of supplies.
>>317857893
Are you blind?
All of them mean and lead to the exact same conclusion.
Or are you implying that the "variety" in the way you say yes no or goodbye is what makes it "emotional"`?
>>317857294
You... don't think the game would/should accommodate roleplaying?
>>317857374
It is not post post apocalyptic tho.
It is pre non post apocalyptic.
Unless it it is non concurrent post modern retro apocalyptic.
I get confused sometimes but I assure you I am giving this classification all the thought it deserves.
>>317858315
this is how it is in any RPG, how can you not see it by now?
whether the protag is voiced or not all dialog choices lead to just a few outcomes
>>317857807
I'm a fucking English major dropout pothead, and I know enough about the effects of nuclear radiation to know how silly Bethesda is.
also
>radation
>ghoul child locks himself in a refrigerator as the bombs detonate
>still alive 200 years later
b-but ghouls don't need to eat moran!
>quest in the same game has an npc sneaking away to feed ferals so they won't attack his base for food
TODD
O
D
D
>>317858280
>but what happens after people have struggled by the initial trouble that the apocalypse left.
Guess, what? "post-apocalyptic" cover that too you goddamn neanderthal. Stop thinking your fuckboy Josh somehow invented this thing that nobody before has ever done in storytelling. The kind of setting Fallout 2 and NV take place in have always been described as post-apocalyptic, and your fucking retarded term is practically non-existant anywhere outside your gay ass fanboy orgy circles.
>>317858557
I mean, you can meme all you want and try to justify Bethesda being retarded. But hopefully you will at least realize what is meant by post-post-apocalypse being about politics in a post-nuclear world rather than struggle, cuz if you can't you may be functionally retarded.
>>317858857
How can you be this upset at the semantics of it, when the subject itself is that Bethesda did the setting completely wrong. You need to get help desu, you might have an aneurysm any day now if an internet conversation is making you this mad.
>>317858857
Perhaps, but the term does it make it easier to differentiate between a chaotic post-apocalyptic world and one that has started to regain a semblance of structure.
>>317858724
you went to college, thats more education than a lot of people
>>317859082
>when the subject itself is that Bethesda did the setting completely wrong
No, the subject is you pushing this goddamn retarded, unvieldy, pointless term that's been coined up by some faggot because he's so smug he thinks he's above the conventional one that everyone agrees on. I don't care about discussing how shit Bethesda are at storytelling and worldbuilding. I already know this. Everyone here knows this. The fuck is the point?
Wud you an Assaultron?
>>317858857
whoa boy hot diggity I tell you whut
>>317859345
how can you be this angry, holy shit
calm down, it's just a phrase
>>317859318
not in America
>>317859345
Isn't it nap time, Todd?
>>317859569
>I don't care about discussing how shit Bethesda are at storytelling and worldbuilding. I already know [they're shit]
If you're going to be a memefaggot at least do it right.
>>317859668
Who's to say it's not just backpedaling to disguise it?
>>317859764
>backpedaling
Do you even understand any of the words you're typing out at this point? The fuck are you going on about you goddamn fuckwit?
>>317856804
>walk to impact site in south west.
>literally a village in the most radiated part of the whole map
>no ghouls, just normal humans worshipping radiation.
K Bethesda
Seems like post apocalyptic and post post apocalyptic are valid distinctions. Would I call Fallout 4 post post apocalyptic in conversation? No, but it is a post post apocalyptic game i suppose.
>>317859513
according to a study in 2014 only 58% of people went to college
you dont consider 42% of an entire country a lot of people?
>a total autist that can't stand that someone said a word they don't like killed this thread
LOL
>>317856804
Have you seen third world countries?
They look like FO4 towns.
Consider this:
The people that live in Diamond City can barely leave the city to gather supplies for building.
They can't order drywall, or have new support beams forged, or have concrete deliver to them, or even have properly sized lumber cut.
There are no roads (which make construction far easier) or factories producing the materials for proper construction.
Literally all they have to go on is the bit of salvage they can bring back/trade for, because the outside is full of Raiders and Super Mutants.
>>317857614
Mad Max would be post apoc
Road Warrior would be post post
I agree they both fall under the category but there is a distinction that could be made one is the end of civilization happening or just happened and people are dealing with it vs the apocalypse happened, people dealt with it and here is their new world
>>317860054
Isn't Mad Max pre-apocalypse? And Road Warrior would be directly after the apocalypse?
>>317858971
You are 100% correct anon.
Hopefully the next game you exit the Vault and become the head of the local zoning commission.
Fingers crossed.
>>317860002
The number is actually 65.9%, and it was at 70% in 2009.
the nuance in each dialogue choice!
>>317859382
heck yeah i would
>>317860181
lol
>>317860032
>niggers
shit would have been much better set just after the war
>>317858857
So how is calling everyone some flavor of faggoty-ass faggot supposed to prove that your overly literal interpretation of post-apocalyptic obviates the usefulness of describing a period which comes after a thoroughly explored fictional period defined by its sore, fresh afterness to a world changing calamity? Come up with your own word for that shit (post apocalyptic restoration?) Way easier to just put it in terms of the known category, especially when that category is a major hinge of the discussion (that their post apocalyptic setting inexplicably takes place way later than is evident from how the world has developed, and ought to have better reflected being after, post, that period).
Srsly get laid you bitch. Ill shove a broom up ur puss puss and you'll thank me after. How's that for some words you can Google?
>>317860167
Yeah, Mad Max is more like pre-bomb Fallout. Huge oil crisis, but still no apocalypse. Road Warrior is after the apocalypse.
>>317857047
In New Vegas, the buildings are just as destroyed and full of skeletons and garbage as they are in FO3 and FO4. The only thing NV gets a pass on is the lack of foliage, and that's only because it's in the fucking desert.
>>317857064
>people who have studied the effects of nuclear weapons/radiation will think the fallout games make no sense but those people are in a vast minority
You don't even have to study anything. Look at any picture of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, or Prypiat. Just a cursory fucking glance at them.
>>317860442
seriously. i was baffled when i found out it was 200 years later. fucking why?
>>317855784
I'll never understand why they set New Vegas and 4 200 years after the war but make it feel like the war ended ~40 years ago.
I was playing 4 today and was in that vault with all the triggermen in it, and they are talking about making construction projects just to keep union workers their jobs. Would gangsters 200 years after the collapse of civilisation where raiders are a persistent problem really have knowledge of unions, how they work and the manipulation of gangsters would take part in more than 200 years ago? I cut the game a lot of slack because I can recognise that it's mostly just about having pretty dumb fun, but it's just a retarded idea that people must have actively put into the game and somehow not realised how dumb it is.
Since there were radolphins everywhere I just assumed the water was supposed to have fish living it but Bethesda was too lazy to make models, animate and give them "AI".
>>317856804
>People have been living in towns for decades and it's still filled with broken shit and garbage ...you'd think someone would repair or patch the buildings after some time.
look at any shitty town in a third world country and realize that this is untrue.
>>317856204
This is addressed in Fallout 3 by claiming that the east coast was bombed much more heavily then the west coast. The bombs used in the fallout universe were easily 100x more powerful than the baby bombs of ww2.
>>317860315
holy shit, dude.
They really tried their worst
>>317860690
Well, the NCR with their sandbrick houses haven't expanded into the mojave yet, they're vying for control of that area, in the same way that Redding and New Reno are pretty messy compared to Vault City and the NCR.
A lot of that can also be explained by reusing Fallout 3's assets anyway, it's not like Obsidian could remake everything and release the game on-time. What is important to the "post-post-apocalypse" thing with New Vegas is that it has a very similar setting to Fallout 2, the lore is all there, the biggest faction in the Fallout universe is there (the NCR) and it's about politics and war in a post-nuclear world, rather than struggle for survival and people making Junktown clones everywhere 200 years later.
You're gonna burn alright
>>317857029
No is turning 360 degrees and walking away.
>>317861135
>look at any shitty town in a third world country
There are white people in FO4 though so the "niggers are retards that don't work" excuse isn't valid.
>>317861135
fuck off todd
>>317860442
sauce on the ENB anon?
><-Sarcastic
>"You're full of shit Jacob, you hated that bitch."
What the fuck, why.
>>317861062
The guy talking about construction was a ghoul, or at least I'm pretty sure.
>>317861135
But then the idea of nukes in Fallout being extremely powerful is retarded too, surely after the White House gets the pounding it recieved, all of DC should just be flat from the power of all those bombs. But noooooo, the white house got destroyed and there's no trace of it, but then every building around it remains intact.
Also surely LA would get bombed to shit, considering it's closer to China so it's easier for them to hit and it's one of the largest cities in the country, lazy ass writing from Bethesda s m h f a m
>>317861319
>4 Yes responses
>1 "walk away"
Boy these two options are really neat! Great RPG!
>200 years later
>all the vegetation is still dead
It's like these faggots never looked at Chernobyl, which was one of the most irradiated places on the planet. A fungus even EVOLVED there to literally eat radiation.
>>317858779
The kid thought it was 200 years because his brain is slowly rotting and he's turning feral. He was probably in that fridge for like a day max. Or he was just lying.
>>317861435
I hope that was the case, at least it would make some sense. I still don't get why they bother setting it so far into the future and don't change that significant about the setting.
>>317861020
Because the games were originally post-nuclear. As in society is already pretty much rebuilt and its an excuse to have weird looking creatures to fight because of radiation.
>>317860829
Those places were only bombed locally. A full scale global nuclear war would trigger a nuclear winter (caused by all the smoke and dust ejected into the atmosphere blocking out the sun) followed by a nuclear summer (the shit in the atmosphere eventually dissipates but the planet would get really hot from the greenhouse effect). So you would have something like Metro 2033 followed by something like Fallout 4. There's really no telling how long or how badly this would affect life on Earth. But an environment like in Fallout 4 is possible. And wooden buildings would not decay as nukes sterilize the environment. This would also apply to corpses.
>>317861414
Left: Glass Him
>>317861062
the guy speaking was a ghoul, people caught in the radiation from the original atomic bombs and then somehow survived. he was around for these unions.
im not saying its a good reason, but thats why it was in the game
>>317861382
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/246/?
>>317861701
It was a ghoul and he straight up says he was a mobster prewar.
>>317861319
> Not responding and just walking away
> The cripple going "what the fuck are you just going to leave him!?"
Best day of my life
I don't think people know a lot of NPC have dialogues for when you just walk away.
When you're about to board the blimp with Danse, walk away in the conversation. He will yell at you to get right back if you want to continue being part of the brotherhood.
Leave the station, return, and he'll tell you he aren't allowing you on the blimp and won't sponsor you any further before you've done more shitty repeatable mission to prove you're not just fucking around.
>meet trader for first time
>she says i know why your here if your going to rob me just get it over with
>pick sarcastic expecting to say something snarky about judging people and not wanting my business.
>"just looking for love baby"
>she laughs and gives me a discount
that was kind of funny but this game needs more context clues than just yes, no, angry, and smartass if you want to even attempt to role play.
>>317861414
Post the image.
>>317861906
When you skip through dialog with Father, MC sometimes says "stupid old man".
>>317861934
Amazing how close it hit to home.
>>317861118
For fuck sake they stole 90% of the AI from skyrim anyways. Why not just take the braindead fish AI while they were at it? Aside from the fact that all life in the water went extinct.
Why would they use bomber dropped bombs like in Megaton when everyone has ICBMs?
>>317861435
This, he was a pre-war ghoul.
>>317861785
>>317861876
I guess I missed that about him. Seems kind of weird that he was a footman for some gangsters for longer than 200 years though.
>>317861529
The 'hot zone' from Chernobyl was surrounded with plant life.
Plant life spreads.
All plant life in Fallout was wiped out by the bombs, it would take far FAR longer for the few surviving plants in remote areas to eventually spread.
Plants don't just magically appear.
>>317862098
But with 200 years? Even in that time you could have several oasis like zones rather than just 1 that was caused by a ghoul with a tree in his head.
>>317856545
Isn't there usually a second set of dialogue as well though? The NPC explains what they want and then you can choose to go with it or not.
>>317862004
Skipping dialogues with the "approve" or "disapprove" button (in lack of other words) give you different responses depending on who you talk to. Some of them are pretty mean.
You can be a total dick to everyone in every conversation, it's just sad that Bethesda didn't actual show you that it's there.
>>317862098
After Mt. St. Helen eruption in America, plant life started to return within weeks.
>>317859382
flat as fuck/10
doesnt even look like it has shock absorbers
High charisma is so unsatisfying, 90% of the dialogue options don't seem clever, intimidating, or persuasive. And the reactions from NPCs are awful too
I should have gone full combat, talking is worthless.
>>317862098
>Plants don't just magically appear.
There's pretty big forest right outside Jacobstown in New Vegas. Lack of plant life in other parts of the map is simply caused by a fucking desert.
>>317862340
to play devils advocate volcanic ash is pretty damn good fertilizer
nuclear fallout isn't so much
>>317862527
Is it? I didn't know.
But like I said, if a fungus evolved in the real world to live off of radiation there's no reason why plants can't do the same thing.
>>317861135
>100x more powerful than the baby bombs of ww2.
anon I'm pretty sure if that were true the earth wouldn't even be AROUND
>>317862480
> High Charisma is so unsatisfying
> Implying implications
>>317862419
Don't see anything wrong with this animation. It's actually quite realistic.
I mean, the dude is drunk, right?
>>317862708
That deathclaw looks like wingless dragon from Skyrim.
Is Bethesda really that lazy?Who the fuck am I asking anyway
>>317861529
"But the bombs in Fallout have many more radistions so trees die :^)"
It's to give the game that "post-apocalyptic" feel, so that the normies will eat it up and be like "omggggg the setting ees so good and so intredasting, so sad tho :'C"
Lazy-ass Beth writing
Even NV managed to get greener-looking areas with Jacobstown and HH
>>317855784
>fishpacking plant
>fish aren't even packed
>>317862419
fucking jet man
>>317862903
Dragon AI was separated into Deathclaws and Vertibirds
>>317862708
That deathclaw needs the following conversation options.
>>317862903
The model is completely different.
Please stop struggling to find shit to complain about.
>>317863046
If anything the Deathclaws use the Troll AI from Skyrim. Dragon AI is more about turning to face someone than it is running after them.
>>317855784
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/dead-trees-and-fallen-leaves-near-chernobyl-aren%E2%80%99t-decaying
When are the porn and gameplay overhaul mods coming out for this shit game?
>>317863008
He doesn't seem hyper enough to be on Jet.. I'd say that's more of a Daddy-O high.
>>317863347
Basic ones in a year.
Fully completed ones never.
>>317863228
what mod
>>317863046
Is it just me or do Vertibirds get massacred in every situation they fight anything more than a rad roach?
>>317863347
Some time after the GECK comes out.
>>317863347
>creation engine
>animation edits
>>317863228
>mfw synth sexbot mods imminent
I'd like to see loverslab mods with dialogue wheel
would you like to breed with the deathclaw?
A)yes
X)peg deathclaw
B)No
Y)what is breeding?
>>317859382
Why I can give an Assaultron body to Curie?
Fucking Todd.
>>317863619
Worked fine for Skyrim
>>317863443
Not telling. ;)
>>317862419
>anon checks his backlog
>>317860315
>not a single npc saying: I'll make you an offer you can't refuse
They blew it.
>>317863298
Pretty neat.
But even if decomposition was somehow 0%, the fish would desiccate.
>>317863709
Well we both have different opinions of 'fine'.
>>317861636
>Bethesda is subtle enough to use unreliable narrators in minor sidequests
Yeah... NO.
>>317861135
Radiation and mutation doesn't influence plant life NEARLY as much as animal life.
I mean, I get it, they want to preserve the atmosphere, but holy fuck just stop making games so far into the future.
>>317861135
>bomb in Megaton the size of the Hiroshima bomb
>tiny explosion
>even tinier fallout radius
>bombs 100x more powerful
Something doesnt add up here Bethesda
>>317859382
soon
>>317863709
No it didn't
>>317861730
>nukes sterilize the environment
[citation needed]
>>317863968
The bomb was sitting there for a long time, probably lost most of the juice from that.
>>317861914
I'm playing on PC, and got the mod that adds the options changed to what he actually says.
It makes the game so much better.
>>317863669
HATE PEGGING
>>317859382
Just once.
>>317863968
>>bombs 100x more powerful
That's not even true. Fallout bombs are less efficient than IRL bombs, meaning they are dirtier and have a smaller explosion.
>>317864062
already posted in this thread
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/dead-trees-and-fallen-leaves-near-chernobyl-aren%E2%80%99t-decaying
>>317863968
The bomb shouldn't have even worked after 200 years
>>317856545
They don't want you to say no to any of the quests. Why would you ignore content? Either you do it because it's the right thing or you do it because it benefits you in some way. They wisely made it so you can pick "asshole" as a character and mash b the entire game to see what happens. I like it.
>>317863985
>can't romance KLEO
why even live?
Only the US and China got nuked in Fallout.
Russia wasn't part of it. NATO doesn't exist in Fallout. South America, Africa, AusNZ all avoided getting bombed
>>317864214
>South America, Africa, AusNZ all avoided getting bombed
Wouldn't matter anyway, they'd still be shitholes LOL
>>317856545
wtf?
good thing I didnt buy this shit
>>317861730
Nuclear winters are an outdated concept and would not occur on the scale that the Cold War powers believed.
>>317864214
Middle east bombed each other
>>317862098
>Plants don't just magically appear.
No, a lot of them spread through releasing pollen and spores for the winds to carry them.
What is your point?
>>317856545
>that pic
Pretty stupid example considering that's a settler for a settlement (a misc minor sidequest) you've been sent to help so they're now in alliance with you and the minutemen and you're the representative/general for the minutemen.
Why would you travel all the way to the settlement and talk to their representative just to tell them to fuck off?
The dialogue system is generally pretty shit, but that's a bad example.
>>317864353
Not with nukes
>>317857251
I mean they already had a chance to say no when they were talking to preston...so...
>>317860442
I had very strong fo1 vibes about this pic
>>317860442
BLOWOUT SOON FELLOW STALKER!
>>317864185
That was after I posted tho.
Cheers, gonna read now.
>>317864205
So what you're saying is you prefer a "choose your own adventure" with 4 choices rather than being able to role play?
Just making sure we're on the same page here.
>>317864214
So europoors bombed eachother or what?
I remember some shit from fo1 intro
>find prototype sentrybot mkiv
>awww shit yes sentrybot companion
>not a follower, you can just send him to one of four locations to murder everything and steal the xp
I've logged about 40 hours and I've pretty much forgotten Power armor exists. I've only used it once at the beginning. and have like 15 fusion cores or whatever they are called. Curious if anyone else out there leaves them to rust in their settlements.
>>317865001
I like both, some games work better with set personalities you can pick and choose to use.
It was my favorite feature of Alpha Protocol, ever do an angry response only run of AP? It's fun as fuck. Can't wait for my fallout 4 angry heavyweight run.
>>317864205
So why not just two options
>yes
>yes?
>>317864629
I know me too
I think Fallout 4 will be a gr8 game after 2 years of mods, althought nothing can ever fix the shitty quests, but it would be cool to see a mod like Dust for Fallout 4
>2 weeks since release
>no patch to fix the multiture of game breaking issues with the game
>>317865239
Because that's not going to give you interesting playthroughs......you have the option of picking and choosing what kind of yes you give and why you agree to help these people. Let's be real no rational motherfucker is going to raid the Corvega Auto Plant for muh freedom alone.
>>317865239
NO, no no...
You're doing it all wrong.
>Yes
>Yes?
>Yes, I guess....
I like that there is a lot of little things hidden everywhere in the game
>>317865457
More like
Yes, because you're paying me.
Yes, because it's the right thing to do.
Yes, because you're a worthless pussy.
>Fallout 2 has a pretty heavy establishing of Jet being a post-war drug, its creator is in fact one of the possible companions
>pre-war Jet fucking everywhere in F4
>>317865453
So this is only going to give you one playthrough?
No variation what you do. Everything is same a second time you play this shit.
>>317865365
Patch next week apparently.
It will probably fix fuck all though, still getting <40 FPS on a fucking 970, s m h f a m
>>317865020
Apparently it's incredibly shitty in Europe after some sort of Civil war there.
Fallout 4 DLC focusing on colonizing Europe when?
>>317865557
>not that many guns
>but lots and lots of teddybears
>a disturbing amount of teddybears actually
>like, one little teddybear easter egg in every house
>>317865672
4 playthroughs.
Which is all I ever do anyway.
Self insert playthrough
all sarcasm infiltration specialist
all positive charisma monster
all negative steroid abuser
That'll be at least 200 hours before the dlc even drops.
>>317865668
How do you know it's pre-war, kek?
>>317865557
>I like that there is a lot of little things hidden everywhere in the game
There's a lot of genuinelly good stuff about the game... but there are also heaps of bad parts as well.
Even something like the voiced protag isn't bad per-se and has enhanced a lot of things in the game (for example the silver shroud questline as a male) which wouldn't even have been half as good in plan text form.
For such a big AAA game it feels sloppily put together with some spotty directing/design.
>>317865668
Looks like Myron was a lying sack of shit.
>>317865668
It's pretty obvious that other people have been in most of these places before you, even the ones that are locked up tight.
Manequins and bones arranged in weird ways, pipe guns and drugs laying out in the open
>>317865668
>implying huffing cow shit fumes wasn't a thing pre-war
>>317865926
Constantly located next to pre-war skeletons.
Located in sealed pre-war areas nobody before you reached.
And I think there is a pre-war poster advertisement for Jet somewhere in-game.
>>317866117
Bullshit. It's another lore rape of Bethesda and you fucking know it.
>>317861504
This is a follow-up to the previous Yes choice, which is part of Yes, No, Fuck off, and Guys what do I do
>>317860032
Man, how is possible that people managed to create building before they could order fucking dry wall or have someone else forge beams, make concrete, or cut lumber?
Humanity surviving and building anything at all pre-Industrial Revolution must be a fucking miracle in your mind.
>>317866163
It's not cow shit, it's brahmin shit. Regular cow shit wont' make jet, it's radiation magic.
>>317866250
Doesn't seem like it to me, seems like the institute is always one step ahead of me. I assume they're the ones who leave creepy manequins everywhere.
>>317865668
F3 and latter entries have retconned a bunch of stuff and it's entirely in their right since they now own the IP.
The Interplay Fallout games have no real connection with the Bethesda ones apart from gags.
>>317865919
You are just fucking with me right?
>>317866432
It's kinda hard to go outside and gather materials to build when there are huge mutants out to kill you and raiders all over the place. You'd need a war party just to get enough wood to build a cabin.
>>317865668
>out of cryo
>doesn't even question why caps are currency
>>317866634
If you talk to the old people on the farm near sanctuary you can ask why caps are money.
>>317866490
Nope, it's fun.
DId the same thing in AP.
Sarcastic covert ops guy, angry soldier, professional techy, self insert mercenary then roleplayed rookie and vet.
Rpgs don't require branching paths to be good.
>>317865557
In one of the cities post offices (can't remember which) there are super mutants with a shopping cart full or bears, thought it was weird and kept going. Found more carts with baby toys and rattles. Kind of sickened me honestly.
>>317865926
>>317865668
If you actually read the lore you will know Jet is based on a drug made by a farmaceutical company to enhance soldiers' reactions, they just ended up calling it jet because tribals.
>Not even fucking 100 years later, like 65 years
>Shady Sands exist
>Vault City exist and it looks like the most cleanest city in the game
>Even the Den, a city of slavers, manage to make themselves not look like shit
>>317866725
>a slightly different tone of voice in the shitty voice acting is enough to justify four identical playthroughs
>>317866634
You really wanted this game to be an endless "what's that!?" experience?
>>317866751
>FARMaceutical
That's ironic as fuck.
Also, no. Jesus christ.
>>317865990
Your image gave me feels I didn't even know I had for that shitty game
>>317866894
I want logical writing
>>317866885
Once again proving that west coast is best coast.
>>317865645
You would still only see the three yes options.
But I get your point.
>Yes, I am the champion of the wastes and I will aid you in your time of need.
>Yes, but you better have a huge reward when I get back.
>Yes, you dick.
>>317866250
>Implying that all skeletons are pre-war
>Implying it isn't just generated loot inside a container based on perks and levels you have
>PROOF of that Jet advertisement
>>317862707
Nah, even 100x nagasaki is pretty tame. The recent Chelyabinsk meteor event was around 20-30 times that of Hiroshima for example.
>>317866890
Well no......combat and exploration will be vastly different for each playthrough and the quests will all be slightly different, I know that much for a fact as noncombat skills can lead to shortcuts/extra caches of loot/etc.
You seem really bitter, just play something else anon.
>>317866885
It's "clean" because of small repeated textures.
The more recognizable elements you have in a texture the worse it looks when repeated, especially when they're small.
>>317865842
Doctor Dala would get wet
>>317855784
STFU FAGGOT IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME NOTHING IN IT IS REALISTIC!
>>317867205
why are pipe weapons in pre-war safes
POISON THE EAST COAST
MUTIE CLEANSING NOW
>>317862018
>glass him to give him a drink
You have to be mentally retarded to think this.
>>317867085
>I want logical writing
So basically you want the character to scream and ask questions non-stop over every little thing?
>>317866462
>entirely in their right
Would you take this same stance if it had something to do with Disney making retcons to star wars in order to cover up them not knowing what makes "their" franchise tick in the minds of fans?
>>317867325
Literally what I wrote
>>Implying it isn't just generated loot inside a container based on perks and levels you have
>Enclave logo on X-01
Mod? I NEED IT
>>317867325
>implying that the MC is the only person who can crack a safe
Why wouldn't a scavenger learn to crack safes and use them as weapons/drugs caches?
>>317867395
that's realistic, not logical
>>317867230
>I know that much for a fact as noncombat skills can lead to shortcuts/extra caches of loot/etc.
Wow, shortcuts? Extra loot?! That's an amazing use of those skills, especially compared to the previous games where those skills would lead to a completely different gameplay style and way to resolve problems!
>>317855784
Cool autism bro
>>317867374
nice wallpaper pleb
>>317866885
Vault city is comfy
>>317867273
radioactive food never spoils since bacteria and mold would die before they can begin the break down of proteins, it is semi-plausible
>>317867242
Sorry but I'm calling bullshit on you. Not only they were able to make tons of adobe houses, they made everything green and manage to get slaves/landscaper to clean the place like. It's a "utopia" compare to the shit you see in FO 3 and 4, and they did this in less than 15 years after the great war.
>>317866751
>Implying anyone will bother reading Botchesda's retconlore.
>>317867325
I'm confused, why wouldn't they. They're still functional safes for people who can open and close them.
>>317867547
Different games do different things anon. Fallout 4 doesn't have many branching paths. The perk system is robust enough to justify multiple playthrough which makes up for that imo. I'd rather have diverse builds than branching paths.
>>317855784
Fish slime can dry and harden into a super hard, super long lasting dried fish sometimes.
You've never seen a dead dried fish OP? Also sometimes this fish slime can also be antibacterial from the high iodine/salt content of fish explaining why it might last so long.
>>317867493
>Would you take this same stance if it had something to do with Disney making retcons to star wars in order to cover up them not knowing what makes "their" franchise tick in the minds of fans?
Yes? It's in their right.
I can obviously dislike the retcons, but if the owners of the rights feel they want to change the canon then that's up to them. They can write the guy out from FO2 that "invented" jet completely if they wished.
You really need to look at them seperately, not only because of the ownership shift but because they play vastly differently.
>>317866619
Then it suffers from the same thing 3 did. Why don't people just leave this incredibly dangerous area? It's not like they can't build settlements elsewhere, the whole Minutemen questline is devoted to exactly that.
>>317867608
Yeah and literally the only bad thing about it is the person that runs the place and the good ending implies she stop running the place and married a NCR Cowboy.
>>317867374
>>317867579
Only canon games allowed
>aliens
>witchcraft
>super mutants
>zombies
>earth being survivable at all even after 200 years
muh realism
>>317867523
So you would need to program and write almost every single character to be able to respond to questions in regards to currency, what the fuck ghouls are, etc.
>>317867936
Why do people live in Liberia when the US and Europe exist? They're uneducated goobers.
Plus it's riskier to leave town in search of a safer place to settle (which may not exist) than to deal with living in an old shithole made up of prewar junk.
>>317867817
at least half the perks in the game just increase damage with a weapon type or allow you to craft with a weapon type
such a great perk system, it has fewer perks than the previous game, and most of the perks it does have do the same thing as the skill system
>>317867817
>Fallout 4 doesn't have many branching paths.
What did she mean by this?
>>317868096
You could live in the area around Chernobyl right now if you don't mind a slightly higher chance of cancer.
>>317867892
>You really need to look at them seperately, not only because of the ownership shift but because they play vastly differently.
I have got no problem with looking at them separately. I wouldn't mind this so much if it was a spinoff in some way. Fallout: Freeze or some stupid shit like that.
But calling it Fallout 4 means they're harking for a pedigree which they cannot seem to deliver on.
Hell, I even enjoyed Tactics! Why?
Because it didn't attempt to be Fallout 3.
>People complaining about magic in fallout
>In Fallout 2 you literally get magic visions if you dont do the main quest
B R A V O
>>317867634
>posts even more evidence that proves my point
Yeah ok.
>find a container full of pre-war safes
>open one
>pipe pistol
>>317868121
Devils advocate: Which wouldn't be a problem were it not for a voiced PC.
>>317868121
Alternatively have the person you meet first explain things to you instead of begging you you to use power armour and murder everything in the wasteland while building houses while he does nothing.
>>317867936
It's kind of sad when even the LEGION manage to look civilized.
>>317868343
>what are psyker
>>317868210
It's a combat focused game if you hadn't noticed. Everything in the game is about either killing things or looting things. If you don't like this I'll remind you that there are other rpgs for you to play, there's no reason for you to piss and moan that this game isn't for you.
IMO perks are superior to skills and a well crafted sniper build is completely different from a heavy weapons build in every way.
>>317868472
But you don't have to meet him.
>jet is a prewar drug in Fallout 4
They just don't give a shit do they?
>>317868121
no, just one you have to meet at the start and that's it
but what am I saying, game design? fuck that stupid noise
well look at that, >>317868472
someone thought the exact same fucking thing.
let's go with yours though, let's pretend the PC has 100% free reign of where to go at the very start of the game and it's literally impossible for you to railroad them for 50 fucking seconds to explain caps
you fucking retard.
