>I-it's not a full price game!
>It's only $40, really you guys!
>>317705135
And has microtransactions too! What a swwet deal!
> this thread again
> posting the special edition price
>>317706805
>Blizzdrones
>overwatch: origins edition
The 40 dollar edition is only available for the PC. It's like they're releasing the console version only because Activision told them to.
Wasn't this game gonna be free? What changed /v/, why did they decide to jew it up
>>317705135
post yfw 20 tick
>>317705135
>endless threads about corporate jewery
Yet you fags keep buying their shit and then come here to shitpost like you don't.
Gotta love how fashionable it's become to be a hypocrit.
who cares about onlywatch?
>>317708317
But I DON'T keep buying their shit.
>>317705135
Fuck of brazil, no one likes you.
What is worse - F2P game with crate/skin and P2W jewery with slavs/brazilians or 40$ multiplayer only title with character DLC but okay community?
>>317708020
Because people are going to buy it anyways.
Look at the prices for Diablo 2 LoD, it's still 20 bucks.
>>317708536
>clearly says USD
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
>being this poor
Lel. get a job.I don't support bullshit DLC though.
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>>317708020
Dipshits like you confused fantasy for facts and got buttblasted when concrete information showed up. It was never at any point even hinted to be free. And "free" means paying like 10 bucks per hero or grinding till your brain is paste to unlock one, meaning the full game would cost 200 bucks anyway. That sounds far less jewish, right bros?
>>317705135
>20 extra shekels for 5 skins!
that's 4 bucks each.
I wonder how much the extra heroes will be if skins are already this much.
>>317708542
That's actually a good point. I don't want shitskin BR's or savage rus/slavs in my games, a $60 game guarantees I wont be seeing neither of those.
>>317707525
>I'll deliberately post the price for the special edition and say it's the price for the regular edition, and then I'll call anyone who points out that I'm lying a Blizzdrone!
>Giving a single fuck about FPS games.
No thanks.
> We've totally not decided if we're going to release heroes post-launch guys! We're focusing on the game!
> We're totally not stalling until the game releases and millions of you idiots already pay money before we hook you up to the milker!
>>317708861
Why'd you even come into the thread if you hate the genre this much? Just to whine about the genre and hope someone pities you?
>community consists of 1k people and shrinking
>they refuse to go f2p and prefer to let their game die
>racist shills keep repeating their slav/brazilian memes
you did good
>>317708581
Clearly only a third worlder would complain about a game with a price.
>WHY DO COMPANIES MAKE ME PAY MONEY FOR THINGS?! WHY WON'T THEY JUST HAND EVERYTHING TO ME FOR FREE!! I'M A GAMER I'M ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING!!
>>317709354
>>317709507
That's right, goyim!
You don't want to be associated with those dirty third worlders, do you?
Pay up!
Buy our full priced micro-transaction riddled video game!
>>317709529
Why do you people play ANY video games at all if you bitch and cry and whine so much about having to pay money for a product? Are you that shut-in and ignorant of life that you don't know how businesses and companies work? Or are you all that poor from being jobless?
>>317709529
There's no need to be upset João.
>>317705135
That's the orgins edition you block head.
>>317709529
7-1
>>317709762
>$60 for the game
>~$4 for a skin for a hero that would be free in any other game
>~$10 for a new hero that would be included as a base character in any other game
Imagine if TF2 made you buy it for $60, and then pay $10 to unlock each class, and then made you pay for your random item drops.
>>317709762
I know how video games work and what makes them good. All I see in modern AAA games now is what makes business and companies good, and the games suffer
What ever happened to the days of making a digital game $50 because of the no cost of physical materials?oy vey
>>317705135
you mean 60$
>>317705135
I remember when people where calling this game the tf2 killer
Good times
>>317710010
>>317710206
Special edition is 60.
Normal version is 40.
If you really need to troll and shitpost about a game, try to use something that isn't so easily disproven.
Fiction can be fun and all, but it's a $40 game with no plans for a hero store.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/7/9688324/overwatch-buy-to-play-blizzard-pricing-model-plans
"We don't have a concrete answer on what happens after the initial launch in terms of heroes. There was one misconception that we're gonna have 21 at launch and then we're going to have a hero store with additional heroes, and that couldn't be further from the truth."
>>317710483
only thing special edition adds are 5 shitty skins
so he's right about ~4$ for a skin
40 is still too much, but what bothers me most is that there is no physical 40$ option. If you don't want to fill in your info on the internet than you gotta pay those 60 shekels
>2015
>20 tickrate
>>317710551
THAT MEANS THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO DO IT JEWS JEWS JEWS GAMING RUINED FOREVER BLIZZARD IS THE DEVIL WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
>>317710551
>at launch
i'm not bothered about buying a game, it can be better than F2P, it depends on the game and stuff. but i think the problem is blizzard seem too flip-floppy lately, from WoW decisions, the mixed communication, or a lack of communication. i still don't understand if i am buying Overwatch or i'm essentially buying a block of characters, and will then need to pay again for another block later, or for individual characters. i can't buy the game because i have no confidence on what i'm getting now, what i'm entitled to later, and what else i might have to purchase. the thing is on sale and i don't think even blizz knows, or they just don't want to say it openly. they said they didn't know about business model right up to announcing that they are now taking your money.
in my opinion if i buy a game at full price it means any progression stuff and unlocks, should be giving me cosmetics and skins already, you can maybe get away with some premium stuff too but thats pushing it. if an overwatch expansion is say, buying another block of 10-20 characters a year down the road from release, that can be alright, but then you're getting into really muddy territory with balance, in OW's particular case. map packs would be a deal breaker for sure, i'd be so done with caring about the game.
>>317708836
Point proven
>>317708836
OP says it's $40?
They should have flipped the tickrate with the price
>>317710640
>20 tickrate
>>317708669
>>317708101
lol i had to google that but that's dumb as shit
Dead on Arrival game
>>317710974
BF3/4 are doing well, so is call of star field and that sit runs on Forst 10 tickrate byte.
People are willing to stomach shit tickrates because the majority of them are too dumb to even know what it is
>>317710668
Reading comprehension anon.
>>317710823
>>317710781
The regular edition is 40. You people keep posting the special edition price of 60 and saying it's the only price. Again, if you really need to shitpost about a game or company you hate, try doing it with something that's not so easily proven to be a flat-out lie done solely to start shit.
>but 40 is just too much, too! Why can't everything just be handed to me for free?!
How did you survive the SNES/Genesis era when games cost 70-90 dollars for even less content.
>>317710010
>bullshit paymethod from other game
>shitposts because poorfag
They are giving all current (21) heroes upfront with the 40 dollar game. Furthermore, at launch the cosmetics shop will be the main bonus income, and then, depending on how much cash it makes they will either add heroes one at a time free or sell them in expansion packs.
>>317711093
You're wrong.
BF4 was constantly assaulted for having bad netcode due to the low tickrate. It was increased to 30, and now recently even higher. You'll find plenty of servers using 60 tick rate now.
>>317711402
And that is evil and wrong and Jews and the reason gaming is dead to me and everyone I know. All games should be free and have absolutely everything I demand be in it at launch and then never ever be touched again.
>>317711551
And still sold well and people still played it. Tickrate is an issue, anyone with a brain knows it, but it's not a big deal to most consumers so using it as an argument for "dead on arrival" is stupid.
>>317711551
>buy bf4 since not-premium is cheap
>2 60hz tickrate servers
>to the 150 30 ones
Yeah, plebs dont give a shit
>>317711402
>they will either add heroes one at a time free
If they were going to do that they would have said so by now, they dodge the question every time so you know it ain't gonna be free. Come on son.
>$40 for base game and extra for microtransactions
>>317711658
Dead on arrival doesn't mean the game won't be played. It just means it's going to be a shit game.
Evolve wasn't "dead on arrival", but we know the state of that game don't we?
>>317711831
You're completely inverting your meanings and phrases.
Dead on arrival doesn't mean it's shit. Dead on arrival mean it doesn't have the playerbase to keep it alive, thus it's dead.
Now evolve was shit, but it could have been shit and had a huge fanbase. By your logic CoD games are 'Dead on Arrival' because they're shit, that's not the case.
>>317711659
>Plebs don't give a shit
I think it's more to do with the fact that the servers have to be rented, dipshit. So only the really active servers with people who donate to the server's higher cost is going to have the higher tickrates.
I still have 11 servers in my history that are over 30 tickrate, most of which are generally full at multiple points through the day.
Cry all you want, blizzard can shit out as many games as they want with the profit they got from HS. OH right, Hearthstone, dead on arrival too right?
> announced they had no intentions of ranked play
>people flip shit
blizzard has no idea what theyre doing anymore.
theyve grown into this giant monolith with no real direction except making money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_1KHPEBKwU
>>317711831
>Dead on arrival doesn't mean the game won't be played
Yes it does.
Call it a shit jew game or whatever you want but don't run around trying to change established phrases because you made a poorly thought out point on an anonymous imageboard.
Dead on arrival means that they will not have the playerbase to sustain themsleves, you made a kneejerk point without thinking about it, shit happens this is an anonymous imagboard we won't know you said that dumb shit, now drop it like your mother dropped you as a baby.
>>317705135
You would want it to be free to play cancer?
>>317712116
People flip shit over everything, and not forcing everything to have a hyper competitive ranked mode in is a good thing, they are taking their lessons from TF2 and that was casual and so will this.
>>317712327
> Perfectly happy with $40 dollar retail.
> Don't want F2P cash shop bullshit for heroes (skins is fine).
> HURR GTFO POORFAG WAT R U BRAZILLIAN!
Suuuh dude.
>>317712083
So?
If they gave a shit, making your server high tickrate would actually ensure more players
Stop trying to deny shit, theres tons of heavy duty servers at low tickrates, plebs don't give a shit.
Theres 500 30 tickrate servers with players in it most of the time to your 11, I don't even know why you would want to deny it - I guess I insulted your favorite video game.
>>317712527
What's a tick, and why should we care?
>>317712256
There was no DoA game ever, so we use it in the correct context - meaning "it is not worth playing on arrival".
Even Evolve had lots of players on arrival, yet its th prime example of DoA.
>>317712602
A picture is worth a thousand words:
>>317710974
>>317709762
because extra content used to be unlocked via cheat codes and virtual play money, not real money
ITT assumptions and entitlement
>assuming new heroes get added at all
>assuming then that they must be paid for separately
Blizz' model is that this is not a traditional MOBA and part of that is mid-match switching to counter so the game isn't gg at hero select.
New heroes can not be charged for because it would violate this model and the whole game concept.
>entitlement
>Gibs me free gaem, whaah. Why I have to pay for work
Would you rather a f2p model that would have to charge per hero and map to cover the development costs, inflating the price well beyond $40
I don't wanna pay 40 shekels for a game which is gonna have a very limited starting playerbase (and basically betatesting the game for them), which is sure to be laggy and crashing at launch (lol Diablo3) and is bound to have a million additional Hero Packs and Map Packs and Skin Packs (lol Hots).
Too much investment for a game I know nothing about. If they were actually smart they'd give a free 30-month worth of playing trial for people to see if they like the game or not, but they won't.
>>317712623
Anon I don't give a shit about your personal headcanon for words. You said something dumb on the internet this isn't the SA forums or whatever shithole you crawled out of there is no need to try and defend your ignorance.
As I said drop the subject like your mother dropped your infant ass you are only making yourself look dumber
>bf3 and 4 were dead on arrival
>fucking COD is dead on arrival
You were wrong, accept it and move on.
>>317712762
>New heroes can not be charged for because it would violate this model and the whole game concept.
And blizzard cares why?
They raped both WoW and Diablo the same way.
>>317710362
I remember when TF2 wasn't f2p
>>317712762
I'd be fine with a Hots type of model, where you can play for free and either grind or pay to buy the new heroes immediately.
Fuck consoles, it's because of them if we're gonna have to pay for this (which I won't, 40 is too much).
>>317712873
>SA forums
Is it 2006?
Does anybody else really want to fuck Tracer's young body while she's wearing her skintight suit, ripped open on her tits and crotch?
>>317712623
>There was no DoA game ever, so we use it in the correct context - meaning "it is not worth playing on arrival".
Not the guy you're arguing with but that's fucking stupid, you're changing the definition to suit your own arguments. You're saying if a AAA multiplatform game has 2 players "b-b-but its not dead! my definition works!" and it's retarded.
Dead on Arrival basically means a game does not have a self sustaining amount of players to encourage further players buying and playing it.
If a multiplayer focused game has 5 million players, and 10 million potential players, those 10 million will see a large fanbase they can play with whenever they want and buy it.
If a multiplayer focused game has 5000 players and 20 million potential players, those 20 million will see a small ass fanbase they can really only interact with during peak hours (EU / AUS / other places are 100% fucked outright).
The second game does have players, but it would still be considered dead on arrival.
>>317712783
>30-month trial
Did you mean to type days?
>>317705135
The problem isn't that it's $40, it's that they might jew us out again later.
I'll wait and see.
>>317712527
>If they gave a shit, it would ensure more players
Except the average person doesn't really know anything about networks, let alone their own ISP for the most part. How do you expect the average person to have any knowledge about a game's tick rate and its effect on gameplay?
>Stop trying to deny shit, there's tons of heavy duty servers at low tickrates
I never denied that the bulk of servers would be 30, especially because they are rented servers. However, the majority of those servers at 30hz are empty or less than 25% full. My history of servers are always full or near full. That's the point of a fucking server browser.
>I don't know why you would want to deny it
Again, never denied that the majority of servers would be 30hz. The 40+ tick update is very recent and again is tied directly into cost. I'm simply educating you as to why there's going to be plenty of 30hz servers as an option. Again though, there's a good chunk of higher and it's all searchable with filtered settings in the browser.
>I guess I just insulted your favourite game
Far from my favourite. You just made a really retarded argument and tried to make claim through fallacies.
>digital LEs
>>317708020
f2p doesnt work on consoles, and having a game be free on 1 platform and 40-60 bucks works even less.
Yes, they literally explained that it was due to consoles.
>>317707954
I'm glad it's coming to console, because my friends won't switch to PC
>>317712991
>5000 players isn't considered fucking dead
Welcome to /v/ everyone.
>>317712908
I remember when tf2 came with the other half-life games
>>317712932
I honestly don't even know what to use as an example of a forum, probably reddit but that would trigger even more people.
>>317712920
>>317713189
Do you want dull as fuck heroes with no hard counters?
Do you want literally everything that makes overwatch different ripped out of it because of balancing concerns if you hide them behind pay/grind walls?
For once modern Blizzard is thinking about what they are doing and they approached this the right way, they might screw the pooch later by just adding heroes in with expansions but we don't know yet.
>>317713214
That's exactly what i'm saying what the fuck crack are you smoking moron?
>>317705135
>pay $60 upfront for a game with f2p tier microtransactions
Nice try, Blizzard.
>>317713267
>Do you want literally everything that makes overwatch different ripped out of it because of balancing concerns if you hide them behind pay/grind walls?
What?
>>317705135
>20 tickrate
>>317713134
Anon you are literally in denial right now, if tickrate was such a massive issue to the average player that they would not buy a game because of it then the MAJORITY of servers would be higher tickrate.
They are not so clearly the average player doesn't care as much as a "hardcore" player. It's just the way the world is why are you in denial over this?
>>317706697
Nice attempt.
>>317705135
DEAD
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ARRIVAL
Normies will not eat this crap up.
Existing people who like TF2 will stick it.
People like myself will see it at what it is; a blatant shallow attempt at trying to recapture TF2 but with the money-grubbing microtransactions at the forefront, day 1.
>>317705135
>special edition that comes with extra content costs more
>HURR THE GAME IS FULL PRICE
How is it possible this place has so many actual retards? This happens with every single fucking game that has a deluxe edition or some kind of special edition that costs $69.99 or something.
>>317712762
>New heroes can not be charged for because it would violate this model and the whole game concept.
In a post bitching about assumptions, this is a pretty fucking massive one.
>20 tickrate servers make it feel like BF4 launch
>Full price + micro transactions, possible expansions in the future
>locked fov to console kiddie fov
fuck consoles and fuck console owners
>>317712470
They would have to be more than usual levels of blizzard stupid to have to purchase the game AND have paid characters. The 95% probability is we pay the 40 dollars, then they release the heroes for free, with a cash cosmetics store. And that's better than F2P, which would be guaranteed buying of new heroes
>maps small as fuck and force chokepoints
>have to force 6v6 because not only every map is hydro or dustbowl tier, but to cheap out on server load
>giant ass guns with giant ass fire that cover the entire screen any time you do anything
>classes have no contour, every ability is a giant mess of visual effexts, even a cod match is easier to read
>has moba shit like ults that are op as fuck
>every female has an annoying voice, everyone spews boring lines
But it has asses
>>317705135
>not realizing its $60 for the special edition and $40 for the regular
literally retarded
>>317709529
You work to make money and you pay money for things you want. That's how the world works, kiddo. Time to grow up and accept that.
>>317713528
the only legitimate point you made here is the fov and boring lines.
Small maps are alright, you can lower the effects
>>317713346
Cant have characters hard countering other characters if some of them are locked away from the players
Can't have characters with access to more parts of the map that other characters if they are locked away from the player
Can't have more unique roles like Widowmaker unless she is available to everyone at the start.
Do you WANT a league of legends style game where you have like 7 roles that everyone falls into with almost no real deviation from there?
Free to play doesn't fit everything and a class based shooter is one of them.
>>317712883
Diablo's primary focus isn't pvp, and neither is WoW's. The point of this game is pvp, plus being able to switch on the fly to any other character to counter pick. It's a pretty different comparison.
>>317711659
>>317711551
>>317711658
there are plenty of 40Hz BF4 servers - almost every server I used to play on is now default 40Hz
60Hz gets pretty expensive only because SERVER JEWING
EA effectively raped every one at the start of BF3 with only "trusted" server hosters instead of people hosting their own dedicated servers
that's literally the only reason why there aren't more high tickrate servers, EA jewery
but as a long time BF4 player, this last patch this fall has been a GODSEND, great gunplay changes, infantry and air balancing, and its actually kinda fun and not aggravating, depending however still on your team (and their overall intelligence)
this was the patch that was fucking needed 1-2 years ago, but at least it came
i hope there isnt another bf for another 2-3 years, or at least DICE learns from this bullshitunlikely
>>317713510
>They would have to be more than usual levels of blizzard stupid to have to purchase the game AND have paid characters.
> Implying blizz drones aren't going to eat it up.
> Implying they didn't word the $40 dollar bundle to ONLY include launch heroes
> Implying they haven't been dodging the post-launch question every time.
> Implying they're not just waiting until launch and people buy the game before springing a hero cash shop.
uhaha suuuh dude.
I was actually excited for this game until I found out they wanted $40 for a fucking multiplayer only game that will feature microtransactions. That and the fact that it's only 6v6 killed any interest for me.
>>317712163
>Hi-Rez
Not even once.
>>317713747
Would you be at all interested if there were 0 microtransactions and skins / additional characters were unlocked by playing the game?
>>317705135
>>317713660
Did you read anything of what I said? People who can't pay can grind, it'll only take longer. Take a look at how Hearthstone and P2W decks work.
>>317712163
Wow. This looks like complete and utter shit.
>>317713847
Yes. I think it should be a crime to charge for skins/heroes in a fucking game you already have to buy up front. I'm also tired of this trend where everything is 6v6. I'm sure higher players make it a clusterfuck, but that's still fun. It's not like I'd play this game under the impression it's an esport or anything.
>>317713892
So I have beta access to the game and I would like to confirm, that it is indeed, shit
>$40 + pay2win
lol
>>317713708
7 full 30 HZ servers
3 full 60 HZ servers
1 full 120HZ server
Anon you don't even have to own bf4 to check battlelog servers browser, the average "gamer" is dumb and doesn't care, this is a statistical fact, can you stop being in denial yet?
>>317714042
Cool. I agree with you 100% by the way. Atleast the option for more players / bigger maps would be nice. And microtransactions in a buy to play game are criminal.
>>317713395
>If it was such a massive issue they would not buy a game
It was a problem for all the people who already owned the game, not the people who haven't bought it.
>Majority would be higher tickrate
Again, it fucking costs money to rent the servers. Higher tickrate requires higher monetary compensation. No one is going to just out of pocket that for an entire server, especially inactive ones.
Holy fuck, you're retarded.
F2P justifies too many shitty business practices so I'm glad OW isn't F2P.
If you want a F2P game to play so badly you can go play Loadout, Dirty Bomb or Tribes
Want to know the real problem?
Because it is Blizzard, it will sell anyway, no matter what they do. Even if people would not notice, magazines and "gaming sites" will hype the game enough.
Because "ITS BLIZZARD THE MASTERS OF COMPUTER GAMING AND MAKERS OF WARCRAFT AND DIABLO".
Heartstone was shit and still more popular than similar, more complex and more fun games, for example.
>>317713862
You didn't say anything.
Balancing will go to shit if you go the F2P route, Blizzard learned this from Heartstone and Heroes, they are not applying it here.
You will either end up with a dead game because people get annoyed at being killed by things they don't have or a very very dull game so that they would never get that illusion.
It's a fucking shit model and its a good thing they are not going for it, goddamn think with your head not your monthly 10 dollar allowance for once.
>>317714206
They're making the same decisions, only you have to pay 40 dollars on top because "Blizzard are a quality company guiseee its 2015 stop being so entitled!"
>>317713753
Everything this fucking cancerous company has done since Tribes has been an attempt to cash in on whatever hot new thing has been going on.
LoL extremely popular? Abandon our fun arena shooter and dump effort into a shitty MOBA.
OV picking up steam? Drop our shitty MOBA and churn out a pale imitation of a game that hasn't even come out yet.
>>317714078
those 5 skins some next level P2W
I bet you're one of those retards that calls LoL P2W because you can buy champs instead of grinding for them
>>317714202
I once heard there was an esports team for a game called Denial Esports, I don't eve know what game but you should probably go sign up for it.
>LOW TICKRATE PEOPLE WON'T BUY IT LEL EKS DEE
>NO ALL THESE OTHER GAMES WITH LOW TICKRATES DOING WELL DON'T COUNT
Fucking astonishing.
>>317714297
I don't see any mention of them selling weapons or heroes. Until they actually announce that they'll be selling weapons or heroes then they haven't made the same decisions that destroy F2P games time and time again.
>>317714315
LoL is pay2win because the person who buys his heroes gets an advantage in the form of runes (with excess IP) and runepages (with RP), no matter how small you're inevitably going to claim those are, it's still an advantage they're paying for.
>>317714258
Hearthstone is free.
>>317714315
Any advantage gained by paying against players who didn't can be effectively called P2Win.
>>317714090
Nice shitty filter settings. I found 5 servers with 120+. 30 with 60hz and none of those were even in my history of played servers.
>>317714403
>Can't refute the arguments
>Goes back to fallacies
Well at least you confirmed we're done here.
>>317714491
Can you not read. Don't answer that we already know
>>317714090
>7 full 30 HZ servers
>3 full 60 HZ servers
>1 full 120HZ server
>7 full
>3 full
>1 full
>FULL
>FULL
>FULL
Do you know what that word means shit for brains?
The argument isn't even that there are not enough 60+ tickrate servers, there are, people are just not playing in them because
Say this out loud kids "They don't give a shit"
>>317714450
They've done everything but say they're going to sell heroes. They've skirted the question every time, and worded the initial $40 dollar sale to ensure any future heroes they sell (which they will) aren't possibly considered a part of the base game.
They're going to sell heroes.
People are going to forget, get invested in the game, then 3-4 months in they're gonna start releasing heroes for $10 bucks a pop and you and your ilk will be sitting there with your thumb up your ass having already given them your money screaming "W-WHAT? CAN'T AFFORD $10 BUCKS? FUCKING POORFAGS!"
>>317714565
There is no argument to refute, you are literally saying that cod and bf4 should have done badly because they too how low tickrates.
The average "gamer" doesn't care about tickrates, thats all there is to it. The rest is you trying to change definitions of what words mean or trying to make excuses for more people playing on lower tickrate servers.
Why do you have such massive issues with accepting reality anon?
>>317714315
>lel nigger getting defensive even though nobody else even mentioned his shit chinese pay2win game
lol
>>317714258
HS succeeded because the online CCG market at the time was shit. MtGO is really hard for new players to get into unless they already have a background in magic and the other online CCGs don't have nearly the same level of polish that HS has.
>>317714472
If you want a tier one deck for climbing ladder from a new account you will need to shell out a few hundred dollars in packs.
>>317714795
>They're going to sell heroes.
Where is your proof?
>>317715104
Shh anon you don't need proof, why get mad over something that is confirmed when you could get upset over your own speculation for what is going to happen?
>>317714850
I'm not getting defensive, I just know what kind of retarded excuses for arguments people post here on /v/.
>>317714957
>If you want a tier one deck for climbing ladder from a new account you will need to shell out a few hundred dollars in packs.
This. Trump tried doing a "free to play > legend" playthrough like he did before but it's impossible by now, you just need epics and legendaries to make a competent deck.
>>317705135
>Origins Edition
OP please.
>>317715104
The fact they've worded all their pre-release material to allow them to sell heroes post-launch without receiving the fan backlash of having F2P elements in a game you have to pay $40 dollars for.
If you can't see the writing on the wall you're blind.
Buying the game gets you 21 heroes. If you think they're never going to introduce another hero again over the course of this games lifespan you're an idiot. And if they ever introduce another hero, well, that's a 22nd hero, the game you bought only gave you 21 heroes, what are you entitled?
>>317715390
So you have no proof. Glad we agree that you are literally making shit up to then get upset over the shit that you just made up.
>>317714957
>HS succeeded because the online CCG market at the time was shit.
Infinity Wars were already present, heavy inspired by MtG and playable competitively without spending real money, with gameplay superior to CasualStone, yet HS was heavy hyped by press, because "muh Blizzard, they cant make bad games".
>>317713368
Only people who browse reddit would know that.
>>317715390
>>317715479
I also heard that the next call of duty will release for 100000000 dollars, every weapon will cost 300 to buy and every bullet is 99 cents.
Trust me I know this because I hate CoD a lot.
>>317715479
>>317715479
They've done everything in their power, short of saying it (which would lead to a backlash) to set up to sell heroes. They avoid the question like the plague because they know it would cause a backlash, and they know they're going to sell them.
Why give them the benefit of the doubt?
>>317705135
>20 tickrate
>literally 1998 tick rate
Unreal 1's servers started at 20 tickrate.
1 9 9 8
>>317705135
I'm feeling fullprice is a buzzword now.
i used to think it means 60 buck garbage but now even a 10 dollar game is fullprice on steam.
>>317711339
Uh they didn't? I'm pretty sure no-one on this board is that oldbesides me
>>317715713
And Activison has done all in their power short of saying that Black ops 5 will cost 700000 dollars.
Your point is still as dumb as ever, you are not going so at least bitch about the issues the game has rather than inventing new ones just so you could bitch about them.
>>317712883
>WoW and Diablo make you buy new classes with microtransactions
??????????????????????????????????????????
>>317715851
Your analogy is really failing here, they've been asked the questions repeatedly and always reworded the same thing "this pack is gonna give you all 21 currently available heroes" not "is gonna let you play all heroes".
Why do you think they did this, mmh?
>>317708542
F2p of course the community will always be shit and worst case scenario there might be some grinding to get the different characters
>>317715479
Also, you've got no proof they're going to provide post-launch heroes for free either.
Though i pray you're right.
>>317715851
I don't give a fuck about tickrate you autist. It's a casual game, i'm not going to play it professionally, i don't care if the shitty tickrate causes me to die one in a hundred times where a better tickrate would not. I've played it both in beta and at blizzcon and enjoy it for what it is
Stop trying to make everything about your pet peeve, i'm not responding to your every post redirecting to mine. Fucking hell.
>>317716024
Here you go
http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/7/9688324/overwatch-buy-to-play-blizzard-pricing-model-plans
I even dug up the article mentioned in the thread before just for your retarded asses sake
"There was one misconception that we're gonna have 21 at launch and then we're going to have a hero store with additional heroes, and that couldn't be further from the truth."
and related to that
"That traditional [business] model removed some of that stress of, if [one player] needs to be Roadhog and [one] needs to be Junkrat, [the team can do that]. They're all going to be available to you — have it all."
Now can you go back to not knowing what dead on arrival means and bitching about tickrate instead?
>>317715975
you literally buy gold with real money in wow now, which was something blizzard themselves marked as illegal in previous expansions ToS.
>>317716151
so they shut down gold farming while also letting you pay for game time with your own character's gold and that's bad?
I remember the shitfest that was CS:S on public servers with low tickrates. Have fun eating shit.
>>317716265
>maximum deflecting
>activate
>>317716131
>"There was one misconception that we're gonna have 21 at launch and then we're going to have a hero store with additional heroes, and that couldn't be further from the truth."
> We don't have a concrete answer on what happens
> We don't have a concrete answer on what happens
> We don't have a concrete answer on what happens
Again, still them skirting the answer, your analogy is still shit and they're still set up to sell heroes, if its by DLC, or not with a 'Hero Store' they've set up for it.
>>317716349
"We see the issue with selling heroes and balancing the game around all players not owning all heroes"
Somehow translated to
>WE ARE TOTALLY GOING TO SELL HEROES GUYS
You are making shit up to complain about shit you made up you dumb dumb retard.
>>317716349
>we're not gonna sell heroes
>we're gonna sell MAPS which if you buy you'll also get the dedicated hero!
>what?
>hey we did say we weren't going to sell HEROES, right?
>>317705135
>20 tickrate
>>317716503
You know I added the second line for a reason right?
But na reading more than a singe quote is too much for you, after all it might conflict with what you think they are saying!
"if [one player] needs to be Roadhog and [one] needs to be Junkrat, [the team can do that]. They're all going to be available to you — have it all."
>>317716470
I'm going to shitpost every overwatch thread for a week straight when they start selling heroes just for you.
>>317705135
>All the glorious Widowmaker SFM coming
Makes me hard just thinking about it.
>>317705135
>60 USD
>for digital version
>online only shooter
>20 tick rate
>microtransactions
>FUCKING ORIGIN
fucking Blizzdrones I fucking swear I hate you more with each passing year
Do the majority of people enjoy 6v6? I'm perfectly fine with it being an option and in some cases it's better, but why not have 8v8 and 12v12 also? Is it just because Blizz is too lazy to make a few larger maps?
>>317716790
Literally the first overwatch thread I have visited but whatever everyone who doesn't agree with you is the same person and part of the other side out to get you.
You dumb deluded fuckwit
>>317716790
He'll probably come up with some sort of excuse anyway
>they're selling PACKS and not HEROES IN A SHOP
>the price is really low anywy
>you can still just win 200 games to unlock it for free, they said
>insert random backpedal
That if he doesn't just disappear altogether.
>>317716840
Wait what? You need Origin to play this shit too?
>>317705135
>Bitch thinking it is F2P
>Turns out it isn't
>Bitch that it cost money
Never change, /v/
Small price to pay so I don't have to play third world shitters.
>>317716346
>you spend lots of in-game time making lots of gold yourself
>you buy special tokens Blizzard themselves made to pay for a month of subscription instead of spending 15 real-life dollars
How is that anything like buying gold from Chinese farmers who use automated bots and steal stuff form accounts they've hacked? And how is that anything like what you're assuming is going to happen in Overwatch?
>>317710206
It clearly says 59.99, not 60.
At least give them some credit for lowering the price as much as possible instead of rounding up.
>>317717047
no, he's just illiterate
Blizzard does have their own Origin type thing though
>>317716956
Keep making up shit anon I'm sure they will backtrack on their word just to spite me.
You have issues, go play a game you actually enjoy instead of going out of your way to make up shit so you could get upset over it. No wait that would be too much to ask, you are a dedicated shitposter on /v/ out on a moral crusade to prove that Blizzard is evil and will fuck with the game because they kicked your dog or something.
" if [one player] needs to be Roadhog and [one] needs to be Junkrat, [the team can do that]. They're all going to be available to you — have it all."
Let's just ignore that because it would interfere with story you are trying to build around Overwatch.
>People think it will fail
>People think it's not good
>People think it's like TF2
Salty people that haven't played it or are unwilling to let go of their Blizzard hate-boners, I guess.
>>317717047
I think he was making a joke about the name of the special edition, or he's retarded
That's the new 40
>>317715832
>yfw you realize /v/ is predominately entitled teenagers
>>317717332
It's a frogposter, when have they ever not been retarded?
>>317711339
I preordered it after the Stress Test.
I had an ass-load of fun and played roughly 30-50 hours over 3 days. That was as it was, in beta, 6 months from release, with 3 maps and missing a ton of features.
It's really fucking fun and I have no doubt it's going to be the next big thing.
>>317717296
the sad part is that i'd say 70-90% of the people in this thread complaining havent not even played the game yet
i played it for about 3 hours when my friend lent me his account for the weekend beta, very fun for a casual shooter
if you disagree you're a try hard or just dont like arena FPS games
>$40 for a tf2 clone
>>317717705
>havent not
i gotta stop walking away from my computer mid type
>>317717708
A superior TF2 clone. Get it right.
>>317717708
It plays nothing like TF2.
This is a great meme because it singles out people who haven't actually played it.
>>317717621
Yeah I don't get why they locked stress test to 3 maps. Once I got into Hollywood last night I remembered the stress test was over and then I was happy because it means the quality of players went back up. :^))))
>>317717659
>>317717980
pic related, you are this wrong
>>317715390
So no proof? Thanks for shitposting retard
>>317715390
So you're saying that I should be angry that I have to pay for new heros, even though I received 21 of them, all of which play fairly diffrently (although I only play reinhardt because holy fuck is it fun, I like all of the classes)?
I'm sorry, If I should be mad, I can't muster it.
I think getting multiple heroes is more reasonable though.
Also why this fixation on heroes? Needs more villains boys.
>>317718107
Mlp?
>>317718107
But TF2 is shit lad, Overwatch is actually entertaining.
>>317718167
>even though I received 21 of them
You didn't "receive" them, you paid for them.
40 buckets down the drain and you don't even own the full game.
>>317705135
Yeah, it really is. Don't you have anything better to shitpost about?
ITT: /v/ is poor or actually still play TF2.
>>317718071
Most people havn't.
>>317718167
Yes, you should be angry, because the Jews are milking your shekels and you're allowing them to. Why are you so against games being fully completed with everything that they might think of putting in months or years down the line? You're everything that's wrong with video games.
>>317715390
They worded it specifically because they DON'T know what they're going to do yet. There's no guarantee that new characters will cost money.
If anything, the most likely options are that they'll add new characters in content updates and support the game with cosmetic sales or that they'll release "expansions" like Diablo, Starcraft, and WoW.
But I really like the Tracer skin and I play her the most.
>>317718596
>Tracer mains
Gay.
Mei-Mains where we at?
>>317718596
>tfw love playing Tracer but suck at her.
>>317705135
>the game actually costs money
What the fuck? Thought it'd be f2p with skins and other stupid cosmetics available as revenue, why the hell is this allowed?
>>317717705
This, it's a fun game overall and 40 dollars really isn't that bad.
>most kills
>not even 1 rep from teammates
I hope they remove this shit. That was my first and last game.
>>317718684
But it fits my super aggressive playstyle perfectly, I didn't plan on it, it just kinda happened.
>>317718765
>tfw love healing and supporting in games but it feels like a waste in a FPS for me to switch to a healer
Mercy was a lot of fun but I can't help but feel like I could be doing more on another character and let someone worse heal.
Since when did /v/ ever give a shit about tickrate?
I have never in 9 fucking years see anyone bitch about tickrate.
KB+M? Yes.
Latency? Yes.
But expecting a console FPS to have super fucking accurate hitboxes? You niggas play BF4.
>>317718790
>I think games should be free and only ask for money with things I can ignore so I never have to pay for anything
>>317718916
but she's literally the worst assault class. Play Pharah, Reaper, or Soldier 76.
>>317705135
Fuck Blizzard and their hubris.
Special edition doesn't include anything worthwhile
It's basically $40
>>317718939
I'm not sure if Blizzard actually wants Overwatch to be "competitive" but if they do they need to up the tickrate dramatically. It's frustrating dying to a homing bullet when you're around the corner or blinking away from something as Tracer then the killcam shows you died pre-blink and shit like that.
OF COURSE I COULD JUST BE A RETARD AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TICKRATE REALLY DOES :DDD
>>317718939
/v/ will dig up ANY reason to bitch about a game. I've never of ticks or ever seen them mentioned once in all my years on /v/ and all the online games bitched and whined about, and now it's suddenly a gigantic complaint about Overwatch.
>>317718949
Nice strawman you fucking faggot. Games should either cost up front or have optional shit and be free. 40 euros for this shit is already a lot, not getting all the content for that price is just retarded.
>>317719025
I love flanking and harassing a lot more than jumping into the fray. Pharah was a lot of fun and probably my second most played assault class but I just couldn't get into reaper or 76.
I would like to try reaper a bit more though, I've got a friend who plays 76 a lot so I don't need to worry about him.
>>317719283
>already a lot
>for a AAA game
Anon what rock have you been living under for literally forever?
>>317718939
Have you missed the last nearly two years of Battlefield 4 complaining?
BF4 servers ran at 10 tick (later "upgraded" to 30) and it still to this day is a chore to play. You constantly get hit around corners, through walls, and deal with all sorts of bullshit while playing the game. In a FPS game that was completely unacceptable, in a game with 12 total players in it there is no reason to not be running 64 for public matchmaking.
Hell even CSGO has been dealing with tickrate arguments since it's release due to running 64 and not 128, you must live under a rock.
>>317717386
This shocks you?
>>317719296
Reaper is like the best for flanking. He has that LONG range teleport to get behind the enemy team and behind Bastions and snipers specifically.
He also has that ghost form ability that allows you to escape just about anything or to fly directly through the enemy team to get behind them.
He also has that awesome passive that drops Health Globes on kills.
>>317719283
>not getting all the content at once
You're getting 21 characters and however many maps and modes they put in between now and when it launches. How many years do you want games to be in development in order to have absolutely everything that you can think they might want/need to put in before they release it?
And anyone who demands games be f2p only shows they're entitled and poor.
>>317719283
Imagine being this poor lol
The people playing this game over the weekend were fucking terrible.
I don't think any of them had ever played an objective based team game before where the point is not just to kill the other team but to work together to put up a defense or mount an offense. So fucking many of them to me appeared to be playing some sort of CoD like FPS run and gun shooter. Only without a killfeed or any k/d that anyone else can see, or really any kind of points what so ever.
I just, I don't even. It got to the point that just having a balanced team could completely break the shitters on the other side because they could not cope with a bastion a tank and a healer.
Until the last minute when they would all shift from the Genjis and Widows to Winstons and Mercys.
Over and above all the shit that /v/ likes to throw around about the technical aspects of the game, it does a terrible job of trying to get fucking awful players to play better.
>>317719605
You just have to realize that people who haven't played it are retarded and will continue to shit-post.
I was shitting on it and waiting to rip it apart once I got into the stress test, but I ended up falling in love with it. I honestly think it's going to be the next big thing.
>mfw I'm gonna get the origins edition for $10 because a family member works for Blizzard.
Probably too expensive still for some of the poorfags in this thread.
>>317719591
I only tried him a few times but I think my problem was not knowing who my main targets were, with Tracer I knew who I should be going after and what her limits were but on Reaper I just didn't put enough time into the guy to figure that out.All I need now is a non weekend key, I wish they would give keys out to people who preorder.
>>317719916
>Got into the weekend test
>Get extremely into it
>Got booted out on monday
>Now I'm depressed and don't feel like playing anything else
Why did I have to taste the forbidden fruit?
>6 months to release
Why?
>>317719758
In general the playerbase is going to be really really bad. In this day and age EVERY FPS game is inundated by casual players who just don't care, it's hard as a normal player to find fun in anything out there today because of this. What makes Overwatch even worse is that it's going to draw in the Blizzard/WoW fanbase who are complete bottom tier at video games and have probably never played a FPS in their life.
My friends and I probably put in 35 hours this weekend and we got to the point where our hidden MMR must have been so high we had to wait 5-10 minutes between games. Once we started facing off against other stacks and high end players the game got really fun though, no more 3 reaper teams or people refusing to play tanks/healers.
>>317720174
Well shit luckily for you bro, you're so great you won't have to play with the bottomfeeders!
>>317719785
I played it to death over the weekend and now I am honestly fucking bored stiff. I was just starting to truly learn some of neater tricks and counters that the character provide.
Junkrat tires go through shields, so you detonate behind them, Symmetra charged shots rape Bastions, Soldier 76 is actually a fucking blast to play as an infiltrator to get behind enemy lines, he might actually be the best to do because of the ability to support himself with health and the nuts sprint speed.
The whole game is meant to be forming a team that you think will be able to complete an objective, coming up against something where the team is not really working all that well and swapping characters in an attempt to overcome it.
Most of the time I felt like the only one that thought that, even when we were constantly on the back foot thanks to not having a tank or just having a dwarf and 2 Widowmakers.
>>317720174
That sounds great anon, glad you have a group to play with you. I ended up getting Plays of the game with Lucio and Symmetra because the player base was so bad.
>>317720537
>mfw die as Symmetra and run back to combat.
>Turrets suddenly kill 4 people.
>My play of the game is me running back and jumping around in the middle of nowhere as my turrets do the job for me.
Best play.
>>317719916
The criteria for judging who gets into beta are primarily system specs (outside of being a popular YT or twitch personality). Blizzard is most interested in how the game runs at the extremes so unless you have a top of the line setup you're better of booting up that old toaster laptop and "updating" your specs on your bnet account.
Source: friend who is on the friends and family list of a Blizzard employee + anecdotal evidence of the only three people I know who got in one has a 3500 dollar computer and the other two play on toasters.
>>317711813
why does she have no nipples?
>>317720341
Well I'm just saying that if you try you won't have to play with shitters, it's possible to get past that. Our early games weren't fun at all because one team would get stomped into oblivion due to half the players not knowing what to do. We also had a lot of run ins with rectum ravaged people who would switch go 3-4 bastions when losing and camp the spawn doorways so no one could do anything.
>>317720537
The worst is when someone does an amazing play and then the play of the game is a turret getting 3 kills.
Fucking Plays how do they work?
Second checkpoint on Gibraltar, on offense, defense team has set up over looking the payload, Bastion, Mercy, Widow and a Dwarf.
My team constantly run out into Bastion fire and die, even the Rein.
Swap to Soldier, wait for attention to be on Tank dying, run out left exit and across behind the door, up the back path and emerge on the high catwalk behind enemy team, kill Bastion, Mercy, Widow, drop health pack, kill Dwarf, Kill Turret.
JUSTICE RAINS FROM
Helix Rocket, pew pew.
Play of the game was a Genji hitting people at the end of the map at the sametime as myself shooting them, he must have gotten the last hits on them all and then pulling out his Ultimate once they were all already dead.
Appear twice on the score card thing, butthurt players vote for the defense team Mercy.
That was the last game I played before the end of the beta.
>>317721289
>Enemy team only gets one card
>They all vote for it out of anger
simply the best, that's how you know you beat them soundly
>>317721289
They don't. Last night I ult'd as Pharrah and took out 4 of them on the payload. Play of the game was Roadhog hooking someone and killing them then turning around and killing someone else. He wasn't even on the payload so I don't really get it.
>>317720537
I agree. At the end of the Beta I felt I was just beginning to really understand the characters. It also sucks thinking about the characters I didn't really get a chance to play like Hanzo and Symmetra.
My favorite character became Mei, which is ironic considering I absolutely hated her at first and thought she was arguably the worst character in the game.
>Completely unique ice-walls that totaly change the game: Blocking pushes by the enemy team, disabling ults, trapping fleeing enemies, completely shutting down bastions, turrets, snipers, and using them as boosts to get to places she couldn't usually get
>250 HP that makes her among the beefiest non-tank characters
>Frost thrower that slows and eventually disable enemies allowing you to melee-rape low health characters and shut down tanks
>Icicle alt-fire for long range harassment and awesome headshots
>Self-Heal that makes you invulnerable allowing you to escape death and hold points even when there's tons of enemies on them
>Ult that completely locks off a fairly wide area
I ended up doing extremely well as her every game and even getting comments from people who were really surprised
>best girl is also best defense character too
It's like poetry
>>317721932
>See enemy character like Winston, Bastion, or Genji pop a timed "buff" ult coming from afar
>Pop a wall trapping them, completely wasting it
I FUCKING LOVE MEI
I WANT TO MARRY HER!!!
>>317721932
The times I played as Mei counted as some of the most chuckle some times.
See an obvious Reaper teleport DIE DIE DIE approching, put an ice wall right in front of him. Team kills him when he tries to run around it to hit Q anyway.
The heroes that I really enjoyed playing as appeared to be the lesser choosen ones so I always never really clashed with anyone else. Soldier, Mei, Junkrat, Lucio and Symmetra.
Oh the joys when I told my mate to damage boost me as a Mercy and just one shooting Bastions.
>>317722236
>>317721932
>already several pictures of Mei x Hanzo
My two favorite OW characters' OTP is real.
>>317708702
Expect 10 bucks a pop. Same for non bundled skins. And don't forget the super special skins that have 3 new lines of dialog and some recolored animations, those are 20 dollarydoos each.
>>317710974
Can someone explain this image? I'm dumb and I don't get what's the problem.
>>317722427
>Oh the joys when I told my mate to damage boost me as a Mercy and just one shooting Bastions.
As mei? How? Can you use her walls to damage people in some way?
>>317721498
>being a kek that actually votes for enemy cards
You guys are as rich as the support fuccbois that get mad when they don't get voted in favor of some tracer/reaper.
>>317719605
Nice missing the point there.
The irony of NERF THIS is more than likely going to get nerfed
