So who the fuck thought it was a good idea for her to turn evil anyways and ruin the sad ending of the last game?
>>317649974
why is she wearing clothes now
>>317651125
Why wasn't she wearing clothes before?
>>317651125
She's a real grill now.
>>317651217
she felt like it
ai pick their form, she picked hers to probably aggravate halsey
The writer of the new games is possibly a woman.
>>317651125
Because the Designer guy has been BTFO on twitter a year ago
>>317651564
They seriously didn't fire that manbaby?
>>317651564
Source
>>317649974
In halo lore rampancy was well established even before halo 4, and now that microsoft has named a key system feature after cortana there's no way they could have killed her off for good
I can understand their thought process at the very least, although they're trying to make cortana come off as genuinely believing this and it not being the result of her becoming fundamentally broken
>>317649974
Why does everyone think she's super hot?
2 is best, op's looks like some sjw, which given the narrative I think was the point.
>>317651975
She was cute in 1-3. She was only hot in 4.
>>317649974
>thought it was a good idea
No one did. They made the multiplayer and the day before it shipped they realized they didn't have a campaign so they shat out whatever they could in the time they had remaining.
>>317652102
Bob cuts are not attractive and her boobs were too old and saggy in 4. They also changed her face to be much more chubby instead of slender and well defined in the original trilogy
3 is objectively the best cortana
>>317651975
They made her ugly in halo 5 because the designer threw tirades against Kojima for Quiet's design. The dude needed to eat his words and make Cortana look like something that no man could be attracted to.
>>317649974
greedy business executives?
>>317652073
>You now realize Cortana never looked good
>>317652073
>looks like some sjw
It's just a woman for fucks sake. Stop this meme.
>>317652359
Looked fine in 640 x 480
>>317652246
>her boobs were too old and saggy in 4
No fags allowed here buddy.
>>317651125
I think Halo's current lore is stupid as shit, but it was pretty well documented that Rampancy occurs in certain stages. Cortana demonstrated some of them in Halo 3, in Halo 4 she hit PMS-Insanity stages, and in Halo 4 it seems she reached the theoretical final stage of Rampancy, Metastability. I feel like it represents a final "maturation".
>>317652298
>make Cortana look like something that no man could be attracted to
She looks ok in Halo 5.
>>317652385
No.
>>317652073
Halo 1 will always be best. Short hair, spunky attitude.
>>317652470
Big boobs != inherently better
There is a specific size and shape needed, and 4's design has neither
>>317652385
>essentially naked in 4 as in all of the prior games
>suddenly wearing a suit just because the designer got criticism over twitter
>just another /v/ meme!
>>317652597
She looks weird.
>>317652660
They're not sagging or anything, they're a great shape too. Have you never seen tits before?
>>317652716
Wearing clothes doesn't make you "look like an sjw." Try reading the thread next time.
>>317651882
Cortana is specifically not rampant though, the game says as much. Once again, by going against lore 343 managed to fuck up even more.
343 Guilty Spark was a Rampant AI that had reached metastability. Still totally insane at its core, but reasonable enough to become "friends" with so long as you tread lightly.
>>317652716
She's wearing a suit because she's leading an army, and despite what Excusemaker McGee said about controlling a conversation with her tits, nobody would take Cortana seriously if she was naked.
>>317652765
You're fucking blind if you're telling me H4 Cortana has better tits than H3.
>>317652716
She actually has a physical body now shitposter chan.
>>317652906
Hi tumblr.
>>317652906
Yes wearing clothes generally doesn't make you look like one. It does however when it's been established throughout the series that a character is basically naked
>>317652925
>the game says as much
Cortana says as much - what's to say she's not lying or otherwise deceived into thinking she's not still broken?
>>317651125
She's wearing Forerunner clothes
>>317652995
The things on H3 Cortana aren't tits, so yeah.
>>317653071
>It does however when it's been established throughout the series that a character is basically naked
She never had a physical body before either.
I'm genuinely enjoying Halo 5's campaign. Outside of the story, it's probably on the same level as 2 in terms of fun.
>>317649974
who cares? you should have been regarding the plot as fan fiction since halo 4
>>317653230
She had John's body.
>>317653131
Gaylo 4 Cortana best face, best hair, best body, best feet, best everything.2 is alright.
just assume nothing happened after halo 3 and boom the halo universe is saved
>>317653419
lol 4's cortana had a fat face
are you into fat girls anon?
>>317653389
She was always wearing armor if we follow that train of thought.
>>317653512
Yes.
>>317653512
No, but I'll make an exception for your mom.
>>317653536
John is naked under his armor, though.
>>317653676
And Cortana is naked under whatever the fuck it is she's wearing in OP.
>>317653512
Some women are built for comfort, and some are built for speed.
>>317652925
The game can lie to you. She goes 100% full space hitler, claims she's not rampant, and somehow doesn't see a problem with threatening extinction of a species if they don't do what she says? There's obviously a little more going on than what we see.
>>317653768
It's not armor. Therefore, she should already be naked.
>>317654061
>It's not armor
Are you sure about that?
>Therefore, she should already be naked.
Why?
>>317652073
You should post the remake version of 2. It's the most disgusting man faced shit ever.
>>317654235
>>317654146
Because Cortana generally likes to be naked.
honestly i was one of the people who complained about literally who locke and the funky bunch taking 75% of the spotlight of the campaign but after replaying 4 and watching some of 5 master chief and cortana's relationship has become such as trainwreck of melodrama and sexual tension that it's honestly become cringeworthy as hell, and playing as the new guys is a breath of fresh air
>>317654235
>no neck
>>317654528
She never had a body before anon. Where are you getting this from?
>>317653086
>>317654046
The thing is, we see earlier in the game what rampant UNSC AIs look like - Governor Sloan is glitching out and his voice is scattered. It's clear that the Domain does SOMETHING to AIs that go there - it's possible that it overwrites human code with Forerunner or something, so that the jitter, crashing UNSC rampancy is replaced with the cool, calm, genocidal rampancy of Guilty Spark.
So either a) Cortana was telling the truth, and the Domain did cure her rampancy, b) she lied, and she's just as rampant as ever, and ejecting her mind cores at the end of 4 bought her some time, or c) the Domain did shenanigans with her code, making her less human/UNSC AI and more Forerunner AI.
Remember, at the end of all of this, Cortana is still just lines of code. Hypersmart, constantly learning code, but code nonetheless.
halo 5 is an amazing game (the only thing it lacks to improve gameplay is more fun vehicles like the falcon from halo reach) but the story is complete and total ass. its almost cringe worthingly retarded.
also halo 4 was complete unplayable dogshit because every game was fiesta slayer and vehicles were unusable because of plasma pistol and sticky gernade loadouts
halo reach > halo 5 = halo 2 > halo 3 > halo > halo wars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halo 4
>>317654624
The AI choose their forms. Every time Cortana showed herself to John, or whoever was else in the room, she chose to display herself as scrolling violet Matrix code.
>>317654739
My theory is that the domain did something to stabilise her condition but it didn't repair her completely - she's no longer constantly degrading, but her conscience isn't the same as it was before rampancy started. It's either broken down because of the rampancy or as a result of what the forerunner domain did to her
>>317654879
So why wouldn't things be different now that she has a physical body?
>>317654745
i am ashamed of this post mainly because i completely agree with it.
the only thing i dislike about H5 is the story, and reach was my favorite as well.
i hated halo 2 though, but still found it way better than all the other titles. thats probably just because i don't like SWAT shooters though.
>>317652925
>cortana
>not rampant
yeah dude, lets trust Cortana the rampant AI saying she's not rampant
HOW TO ENJOY HALO 5: skip every single cutscene in the campaign.
boom. now the game is good.
>>317654235
Its a good thing you see her in-game model in literally two parts of the game
Her cutscene model is gorgeous
>>317654745
>even including halo wars
its a console rts how the hell is it even comparable
>>317654745
>>317655184
I kind of agree with both of you, except that Halo 5 needs more maps for arena multiplayer, and Warzone is fucking shit. Both teams focus more on playing whack a mole with dipshit AI enemies instead of focusing on the other team of human players.
why did people like reach
it felt like the halfway point between 3/odst and 4/5 where it tried to do a lot yet got little of it actually right
>>317655062
Reminder also that the Gravemind somehow wrecked her shit between the time John left her on Delta Halo and when he recovered her in Halo 3.
It's entirely possible that Cortana wouldn't have been rampant by now if she hadn't fucking overstepped her boundaries and downloaded all of the information from Halo. In the book it says she was working at near-100% capacity decrypting and analysing it all, and it still would've taken years (decades?) for her to get through it all.
>>317655171
Maybe it's a garden of Eden thing? I mean, the way Cortana speaks of it, the Domain is basically the garden of Eden for AI. Maybe she accessed something she wasn't mean to, the way Eve ate the apple. Who knows. I wouldn't put it past 343i to try some deep meaningful pottery.
>>317655241
That being said, Sloan was clearly aware of his oncoming rampancy. It's sort of hard to ignore. Only Forerunner AI like Guilty Spark can passable pretend to be sane while being entirely rampant. That's why I think the Domain did something to Cortana's code. Making her more Forerunner, stabilising some of her rampancy, but leaving the looniness in there.
>>317655437
>Both teams focus more on playing whack a mole with dipshit AI enemies
its like you don't know how warzone works
AI bosses give a shitton of points, its worth prioritizing them over people when they spawn
>>317655627
>its like you don't know how warzone works
I do know how warzone works, that's why I was saying it's shit. The mode is boring as balls when all both teams do is kill retarded AI.
>>317655627
that's exactly the problem you dunce
>>317655791
people focus on the AI when they pop up because they're worth more than players
your post made it seem like you thought your teamates were worthless because they went after AI
>>317655920
I think he's saying that the gametype is shit because it requires the focusing of AI enemies instead of PvP action.
Why he doesn't just play Big Team, I'll never know.
>>317655920
>your post made it seem like you thought your teamates were worthless because they went after AI
I didn't mean that, I meant the mode itself is worthless because it encourages that behavior.
>>317652073
My Halo 2 Cortana homie.
best color, best body shape and data lines, graphics that have aged well, best face and fair.
Halo 3 Cortana's face always made her look like she has Downs or something.
>>317656051
so what about the other 80% of the gamemode that's PVP
>>317655546
I hate how it completely decimated the great lore from Fall of Reach. Didn't even TRY to relate to the books.
>>317656102
Considering the Gravemind did a passable imitation of cyber-hentai, I'm not surprised that's how she looks in H3
>>317654567
I honestly didn't mind Locke. He was bland as fuck, but there wasn't anything particularly offensive about him
>>317656016
>Why he doesn't just play Big Team, I'll never know.
Big team wasn't out at launch, which made the shittiness of warzone painfully obvious.
>>317656198
I don't mind Osiris except Tanaka.
Tanaka has literally no reason to exist, she's just there. Was she even a character before Halo 5?
>>317656123
More like 50%. The bosses are worth a shitload of points, you can fucking ignore the bases and other team half the time.
>>317656198
> thinking he could take Chief
hilarious
> thinking Blue Team would listen when he said stand down
HILARIOUS
> thinking the Chief would accept that other people would take the job of tracking down Cortana
HILARIOUS!!
He just made bad decision after bad decision. He should've tried to help Chief from the start. The sooner the mission is over, the sooner he'd be back at the UNSC.
>>317656203
Well, now it is out.
>>317656326
Reminder that Vale can speak Sangheili better than most Elites.
>>317656326
> except Tanaka.
I thought both the girls on Osiris were shit. Was the other literally who grill an established character?
>>317656424
he was just following orders and made it clear that he didn't agree with them
>>317656424
>Well, now it is out.
I know m8, see >>317655184 Just talking about things I disliked about the game.
>>317656424
>Reminder that Vale can speak Sangheili better than most Elites.
its not surprising if she knows more of the language
there's like 1million english words but we only commonly use a few thousand
>>317655261
>this delusion
>>317656749
He's completely right though. The levels are very well designed, the soundtrack is great and the graphics are beautiful
>>317656424
Did you expect anything less from Diversity & Inclusion Quota the Character?
>>317656913
>the soundtrack is great
Glad I'm not the only one to think this
I thought H4's soundtrack was great too, the new guy does a good job of keeping halo music exciting and interesting and I really like his 117 theme
>>317656198
I agree. It's funny when people say he's bland but think Chief is super deep... Chiefs only depth is the history the player had projecting onto him for 15 years as for the first 3 games he said very little and did whatever he was told in every scenario by the most prominent figure near him... Even him being a rebellious figure in 4 came out of nowhere and was weakly justified by muh Cortana because he literally was the one who unleashed all that shit by blindly following yet again. At least Locke while being naive, can use deductive reasoning to problem solve instead of having a floating AI go "go here and screw over mankind please"
>>317657428
>black people have literally never existed in Halo before
>>317651315
What? She is Halsey. Literally her emotions made manifest with forerunner tech.
>>317651125
so that MC can undress her
>>317657890
and you think that's going to instantly make her best friends with Halsey?
if anything it would make animosity more likely
>>317657428
>major johnson is a black man in power
>miranda keyes is a woman in power
>UNSC forces are full of women and POC
Halo has been a SJW series from the start, don't kid yourself
>>317657998
She is Halsey if Halsey had stored an analyzed all of human history and spent years endlessly calculated strategic scenarios, and after that finding a forerunner world where she also assimilated all of thei knowledge, and then went full rampancy... what you see at the end of 5, the "cure" is actually it's final stage... The stage of "I am the answer to all of mankinds ills" stage that all AIs eventually reach
>>317658576
huh
>>317654745
>halo reach over anything
>expects opinions about halo to be taken seriously
>>317651125
More like, why is she ugly now. It looks like they tried to go for some uggo photo realistic shit.
>>317656647
She learned to speak the entire language in six months, with no other Sangheili-speakers to converse with. While she was like 12.
She's the biggest Mary Sue, and ugly to boot. Even Palmer looks better than Vale.
>>317657780
nobody is claiming that chief is deep really,hell, that'd be like calling gordon freeman deep
its just that MC is an icon, he has a mythos around him, and his stoic and unwavering personality made him likable as the lone wolf he was in the previous games
Locke is just so... neutral. he talks enough, but not too much, he's to the point yet can also hold a conversation, he has a backstory that's mentioned but doesn't factor into his character, but he's a really solid grounding point for a main character
he doesn't really have any defining characteristics besides his race and he's a new character to an established series. i like him, personally, but he's bland.
frankly, i think bland is a GOOD thing with the direction halo is taking
>>317658998
if someone had six months of training in something with literally nothing else occupying their life during that time they would be pretty good too
>>317658998
she learned the basics in six months as a kid and then spent the rest of her life building off that.
>>317659248
>>317659224
I guess. I find it hard, though. Like, speaking one language until you're pre-teen, then learning another language, and going on to speak it fluently - even better than the natural speakers - and having a just as good if not better grasp on that nationality's customs is hard enough when all the sounds are coming from a human throat. Throw into the mix that it's an alien language with no way to visit the planet (officially, anyway), and it just seems to me like they needed to give her something to make her 'stand out' in the team. But it wasn't enough that she was the only Spartan that could speak Sangheili. No, she needed to be the Spartan that spoke it better than most Elites.
>Major XBONE release has only ugly photo realistc girls
>wonder why the XBONE wont sell
get with the times microsoft. Games need cute girls!
>>317659705
to be fair most foreign exchange students probably speak better english than midwest america, and i'd say it's an apt comparison considering they're both war-centric societies
>>317659913
They just think they do and shit things up by trying to change actually correct native English.
>>317659913
I suppose. I dunno. It just bugs me. Nothing wrong with making Spartans good at things, but they seem to overdo it.
Like, Kat from Noble Team was good with technology. That's her thing. It wasn't overplayed, she fixed the uplink thing, stuff like that. Tanaka's info says she like THE BEST with technology, able to fix ANYTHING with ANYTHING, McGuyvering a handheld railgun out of a dead fly, some duct tape and a fridge magnet, shit like that. It's like they couldn't have just said "Buck has the most experience, he's a cool ex-ODST operator. Vale can speak Sangheili. Tanaka is good with technology. Locke is an ex-ONI manhunter."
>>317660337
It's pretty typical western pop culture garbage writing. Everything has to be over the top and with exclamation marks because subtle characterization is too hard and boring.
>>317659176
I watched Halo Nightfall before going into H5. It's not particularly good but it has some B-movie charm, and it does a good job of introducing his character as the voice of reason
>>317660838
I'd consider Chief subtle to the point that there's no characterisation. I mean, that was his entire point - faceless mask and few lines, so the player can project themselves onto the character.
But still, he was basically introduced as 'Super soldier. Last surviving Spartan-II. Absolute God of war. Go kill some ayylmaos."
>>317661024
>Last surviving Spartan-II
What was the explanation for the rest of blue team showing up out of nowhere? They didn't explain it in H5, was it explained in a comic or book or something? Did chief know they were alive all along or were they MIA?
>>317649974
Series that go on too long tend to run everything into the ground.
>>317658009
A black marine and a woman who became a captain because of the legacy of her legendary father do not an SJW game make
>>317659705
You've got to understand that the average person only uses colloquial language. There's no depth or complexity to the average conversations that they have with people, and so there's no reason for them to expand their understanding of the language. A lot of them would also have no idea about the formal rules of grammar. They know how to stitch together a sentence purely because it "sounds right" based on experience.
Someone who has to sit down and formally learn a language will be forced to learn all the rules of grammar by heart. If you're someone like Vale who obviously needs the language for specialist military purposes, she'd have to expand her vocabulary beyond what's normal.
I feel mildly autistic for typing that all out, but her character is perfectly plausible
Played through all the campaigns again on legendary.
5 is the only one I don't like.
I think 4's campaign is flawed, but no more so than 3's.
Something about 5 just feels lifeless to me. It feels like a COD campaigns.
It's especially odd considering 5 has phenominal multiplayer.
>>317661302
But nepotism is exactly what SJWs do
>>317661135
There wasn't one. They showed up in a comic that followed Blue Team's hunt for the Didact, who survived a grenade to the heart.
Basically they see each other in a hangar and the Chief is like "Oh. You're all still alive. I have been living a lie, thinking that all of my best friends were dead. Let's go kill a Forerunner."
No catching up, no evening acting REMOTELY human, in the one portion he should have. He showed more human traits when he got Cortana back - crouching down next to her hologram and speaking quietly and softly to her.
>>317661135
when the first game came out, he was meant to be the last Spartan II, then the books added in Linda and the rest of blue team, plus a few others and cripples who joined ONI
>>317661473
Do you know which comic that was?
>>317661473
he's known they were alive since First Strike, which is right after CE
>>317661492
Reminder that The Fall of Reach came out before the game did. Blue Team and all of the other Spartan-IIs existed because Halo: Combat Evolved did.
>>317661652
Absolutely cannot remember. Google 'blue team halo comic'.
>>317661135
Blue Team has been established as alive since 2003. Chief has been aware they didn't die on Reach since shortly after Halo 1 but lost contact with them again after that. (actually Linda was on the Pillar at the start of CE, she was just completely fucked up to the point they thought she was dead)
Basically the deal is that the Pillar of Autumn was supposed to be the Spartan's mothership but Chief was the only one that made it off Reach reasonably breathing while the others got trapped underground and went through a bunch of Forerunner artifact shenanigans until Chief got back from Halo through other shenanigans.
>>317661687
Oh, you're right. Which is another thing I don't get - I don't really like how the games and books are kept separate.
> hey, we have three other spartans
> along with the chief, they form blue team, literally the most lethal and experienced killteam in the UNSC
> oh shit the ayylmaos are attacking earth
> better send chief by himself, without telling him, or indeed anyone else, what the other three spartans are doing
>>317662098
343i started integrating the books and games together in 4 and people went crazy
exuberant witness is a qt
>>317662231
It's weird how nobody cared when bungie ignored the books, but when 343 actually acknowledge the books and lore people go apeshit about them ruining halo
>>317662098
bungie mostly ignored books
343 is trying to incorporate them and now people are shitting themselves because "WHO R THESE RANDOM PEOPLE"
>>317662098
It's not necessary information to the games' story and would just bog things down.
To give halo 5 some credit, one thing it did right was to sideline Palmer and keep her role to being a commander
It's a little weird they don't even mention the fact that palmer is directly responsible for halsey losing her arm
>>317662585
Halo 5 acts like 4 never happened.
>>317661135
i recall in halo 2 there was a ton of spartans but i never played the rest, I read fall of reach and none of them died except one.
>>317662585
they sorta hint at it in the first mission
>>317662381
There's a difference between ignoring and written after the fact.
>>317662536
>the creator of the Spartans isn't relevant
>johns squad isn't relevant
>>317662240
Bit of a shame when Exuberant Witness is the most entertaining and interesting character in the entire campaign.
>>317662536
> not necessary information
> the fact that 'chief is the last spartan', a major point of the first three games, is completely false
> three other spartan-IIs just arrive right out of nowhere
> they have a ton of history with the chief
> its all ignored
> no explanation as to who they are
> how do they know chief
> all that we're told is 'blue team has run more ops than anyone else in the UNSC
What's necessary is debatable. Halo has always been known for in-depth lore and storytelling (well I think so, anyway). Simply cutting off a major plot point was a massive bugbear for me. I want some closure and reconciliation with Blue Team, dammit.
>>317662720
There were precisely zero other Spartans in Halo 2.
>>317662823
But it's not though. Total lore fag here.
You can coast along just fine on the games alone. The books were always auxiliary material to expand the universe.
>>317662672
To be perfectly honest, I don't understand why people hate 4's story so much
Palmer was a bitch but she was an insignificant part of the story, and cortana going rampant was a logical plot given established halo lore about AIs
Del Rio was meant to be a character you hate, and lasky is a nice guy
They goofed up with making the final 'boss' a quick time event, but that's just one part of the game
>>317662768
Locke makes it clear they don't know how it happened, maybe palmer's trying to hide the fact she shot her since they did a 180 on considering her an unforgivable criminal
>>317663013
It entirely depends on what you consider to be relevant
Is mentioning the other spartans NECESSARY to the story they wanted to tell? Not really. But considering the state of the world and lore at that point, SHOULD they have been mentioned? I believe so. If there are several active spartans, why would only one of them be used in the war against the covenant?
Halo 2 started with a throwaway line about how johnson survived the first halo game. They could have easily done similar throwaway mentions of halsey and why the other spartans aren't helping
>>317652073
Halo 4 Cortana was objectively the best looking. 1 was just plain ugly, 2 is too flat, 3 has a down syndrome face, and 5's looks like a tranny.
>>317663258
>If there are several active spartans, why would only one of them be used in the war against the covenant?
>Halo 2 started with a throwaway line about how johnson survived the first halo game. They could have easily done similar throwaway mentions of halsey and why the other spartans aren't helping
Players who haven't read any of the books don't know they exist, and there for don't care, those that have know they're off doing their own shit.
Honestly it would be a pretty fun exercise to re-write halo with the sum of all its lore in mind.
>>317649974
Plot twist is retarded.Love her makeover. Last Cortana was a disgusting fat titted hag.
>>317662240
i want to marry her
>>317664153
That's exactly why it could just be a throwaway line - it doesn't have to be an integral part of the plot, just some acknowledgement of their existence
>>317651384
the head of 343 is a woman
>>317649974
Cortana becoming evil has been an idea that has existed since Halo 1. I think one of the original scripts for Halo 1 is that Cortana becomes the villain instead of Guilty Spark after she absorbs all that Forerunner data from being plugged into Halo's control room which would have resulted in rampancy due to a sudden massive spike in information flow that she would not be able to process.
It's not like this heel turn was without precedence. Her becoming a villain from rampancy has always been widely speculated and the fanbase have been expecting that for Halo 3 after seeing Halo 2's legendary ending since she would be tortured by Gravemind during the whole period between 2 and 3. During Halo 4 Cortana also had moments of aggression that she even blew out some of Infinity's electronics on the bridge for a sec.
Remember there's no reason to believe her cure for rampancy actually works other than curing the lifespan of AIs. The Domain kept her alive but the scenes clearly show her suffering from logic plague. She also clearly has an emotional obsession over Chief by extension Blue Team which just further doubts her claims of a rampancy cure.
I agree that this probably doesn't work as well after emphasizing on an emotional farewell that made it seem like sending off a character but that would have left the huge rampancy plot point of Halo 4 since Cortana's sacrifice at the end had little to do with it.
>>317664634
you mean financial manager
>I've never head of someone personifying an AI like that
Are you serious right now 343
Kazuma Jinnouchi is a better composer than Marty o'donnel
>>317664153
I'd be down for that. Even if the gameplay isn't changed, just adding lines explaining extra things.
> first part of Halo: CE
> coming out of the cryo tube
> "Easy Chief. Don't go tapping on Cryo 3. Your buddy's in there, and she's beat up pretty bad. The more rest she gets, the better."
> after you get Cortana back, as you're running to find ammo for the magnum
> "Chief...I scanned all frequencies before we left Reach. Red Team...I'm sorry."
> at the start of Halo 2, on the tram ride with Johnson
> "Must feel good to get the ol' troop back together, huh? Never thought I'd see another mean, green killin' machine again after Reach. No idea how those other sons of bitches made it off that glassed hellhole. Still, I don't HIGHCOM will be putting you guys together. Too much work to be done."
> at the start of Halo 3, when the Chief crash lands and Johnson gets him
> "I know you would've preferred to do this with your people, Chief, but we're all you got. Earth's a big place, and we need to Spartans where they'll do the most good."
> end of Halo 3, floating in space
> "I'll send out a long-range SOS, but it might take a while before anyone reaches us."
> "It's alright. They won't forget about me."
> "Nobody ever will, John."
I'd be fine with small things.
>>317649974
>Cortana wearing clothes
this game is a piece of shit.
>>317665272
Lets get on it then
>>317663029
I just don't like the forerunner shit at all. I much preferred Halo when they were in the background and it hinted that humans were the forerunners and all that shit. It's a bit too fantastical these days, but obviously 343i were very constrained in the direction they could take the story
>>317658576
Cortana is indeed very much comparable to Halsey as a person that even in Halo 5 Halsey admitted that Cortana was very dangerous but she too had a very dangerous mindset. Cortana has several times throughout books and games expressed a strong dislike towards Halsey and thinks of her as a terrible human being which just makes it ironic since she very much is just like Halsey.
Master Chief even compared Cortana's police state scheme of taking away people's right to choice for the sake of peace to how Halsey never gave Chief the choice of being taken away from his home and becoming a super soldier for humanity. Cortana tries to justify herself there while condemning Halsey. Cortana even called Halsey untrustworthy as well during her taunts against Osiris.
Cortana and Halsey being so alike is why they came to hate each other.
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>>317664974
>2:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_qlej-1ew&list=PL0dqWRYwKNGegEFRoT46x1vGynJMJh69l&index=37
Best part of the game, running around in a Mantis blowing fucking everything up with that in the background
>>317665838
Didn't cortana also call halsey a bitch in halo 4?
>>317652519
"stages of rampancy" is a marathon thing, not a halo thing.
>>317665272
I guess they sort of tried doing that with Halo Anniversary where one of the Cryo Bay computers displayed health statuses for two Spartans, one being labelled John and the other Linda. It would be great to get additional dialogue as well but I guess they're happy with their remake approach where only the visuals and audio effects are worked on while everything else like gameplay and story remain untouched.
>>317664974
Is it true that during halo 4's development the changeover to 343 was still ongoing and bungie still had the rights to halo's music, which is why H4 didn't have the traditional halo theme?
I really like his 117 theme though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzIJV8XrCEI
And it played through the best part of the game, that star fox bit at the start of the last level
>>317665969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHt0tRnnPBc
>>317664974
He does a fucking brilliant cover of the halo theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAYPkVeWjXM
>>317666103
Yeah it was in the intro cutscene of the space station level of Halo 4 where Cortana calls Halsey "a condescending bitch" and added how she doesn't refer to Halsey by name anyway.
>>317666653
Was that the first time she showed animosity towards halsey or was there something earlier?
is the Timeless One still running around somewhere?
I haven't completely finished the forerunner books
>you will never play the proper Halo 2 and 3 without cut content
Halo 4 and 5 both would have been 2x better if their villians were reversed.
In 4, the villain is an increasingly rampant cortana (only comes to a head half way in) who starts to use requiem's constructs against you in an effort to keep you from calling for help from the UNSC (start of th game is the same with covenant remnant forces coming in, but no infinity, main enemies are promethians + soliders from 5, and wildlife, with covenant here and there), ending with you having to kill her. This avoids the didact's bullshit change of character and justification they had to give in silentium
In 5, the villain would be the didact who would have awoken at the end of 4, who instead of hating humanity, simply wants to do what cortana did in 5: uphold the mantle by force.
>>317666794
Pretty much. 343's trying to force them to hate each other despite having nothing to go with.
Just like the AI rebellion.
>>317652925
the only one in the game who says she's not rampant is actually Cortana herself, which she obviously believes
Why does Roland wear clothes?
Why couldn't they have made him a middle aged slightly overweight naked man?
>>317653412
They literally look like implants in game.
>>317667113
>>317652925
>>317653086
>>317654739
>>317654046
>>317655241
How cortanan acts in 5 is far moe in line with how rampancy is deescribed in the books then how she acted in 4 or ever 3.
That said, it's possible she's not rampant, but is just infected with the logic plague from either the gravemind, still back from 2, or from the domain.
Not even 343 is dumb enough for it to actually be her while sane, it's one or the other.
>>317667267
>the logic plague
Is that an established AI disease in halo lore?
all I want is for Black Box to pop up again
he's snarky as fuck and I love it
>>317666992
no, it was always in the books
>>317667534
It's not an AI diesease.It's mental flood infection, from it making you see and feel things you shouldn't be able to see or feel or telling you thing you shouldn't now, both organic beings and AIs are vulnerable to it
http://www.halopedia.org/Logic_plague
The forerunner triology turned the flood into fucking eldritch cosmic horrors
>>317667704
Ok anon.
>>317661375
Except she did that shit and more when she was 12, in six months, and also became a Spartan
>>317651384
Nah Halo 5's writer was the hack who did the "huurr durrr" Palmer comics that no one fucking liked.
>>317667983
Did the original trilogy have a consistent writer or was it different every game?
>>317651125
Thats pure evil!! I cant believe they did that!!
>>317654745
Reach was the worst one.
It started everything that people bitched at 343 for in Halo 4. And it had the worst launch maps of any Halo game, EVEN Halo 5 which has like 3 good arena maps at the moment.
>>317668137
More or less. If nothing else they had a predefined foundation laid out before hand.
>>317668258
Reach is overall my favorite halo game and even I can't defend it's MP maps, holy shit.
People say sprint and jetpack broke map flow in reach are wrong, it's broken to begin with.
>>317655261
What about the 3 missions where you just talk to a few people and it's over?
>>317668137
Joseph Staten wrote all of Bungie's Halo games
>>317667938
she just said she was on a ship for 6 months and decided to learn something
>>317668541
Didn't he not write all of 3, though, which is part of why truth went from a manipulative schemer to being a mix of regret and mercy?
>>317666294
My nigga.
>>317668326
>If nothing else they had a predefined foundation laid out before hand.
Bungie had no foundation for the series at all, it was just made up as each game came along. They even joke about it during the Halo 2 dev commentary.
>>317668451
Those ones werecomfy
I liked taking a break from the action to have a chance to dick around and find collectables in an open area
>>317668691
>What is the halo bible
>>317668691
Staten had an insane amount of lore planned out though, you can read pre halo 2 interviews on HBO that talk about tons of shit he worked into contact harvest and the lore in general like 7 years later
>>317668660
Yeah Staten was working on Contact Harvest for most of 3's development.
>>317667819
So the Logic Virus is just the result of a Gravemind that has grown so large and infected so many people, that it's absorbed enough reason and intelligence to reliably go philosophically toe-to-toe with a Smart or even Forerunner AI and defeat it with debate and reasoned logic?
That's even more terrifying that what is shown in-game. If a Gravemind can't infect or defeat your physical body, with enough time, it can just talk you into thinking that killing yourself is the only logical thing to do.
>>317668964
Isn't that what happened to Mendicant Bias? The gravemind argued him into betrayal?
>>317668391
That's what you get when you just pull pieces of the campaign as multiplayer maps.
>>317668717
Still seems dumb to count it as a mission.
They said there was 15 missions in the game but really there is 12.
>>317669052
Pretty much, yeah. He held MB immobile so he couldn't move, and then spent decades or centuries just talking to him, whittling down the AIs trust in his creators bit by bit, until, through Medicant Bias' infected mind, serving the Gravemind was the only logical course of action.
>>317668964
Pretty much, One entire short story in evolutions is just showing this in action and what grave-mind did to cortana during most of halo 3.He gave her actual senses of touch and smell from experiences the flood gathered before snatching them away and making her live through millions of agonizing deaths of the victims of the flood among other things.
It works on living things too, it made the didact go insane by telling him the truth about the precusors and the origins of the forerunners and humanity, and is part of the reason why he's so assmad in 4.
That said, you are missing out on a sorta metaphysical competent to it that has pretty big spoilers for the forerunner books, so I won't go on on that note, just go read them, they are fucking fantastic though thee second one is sorta uneventful and they are very, very dense reads being super hard scifi/cosmic horror books.
>>317669052
Yep.
>>317666857
Nah Didact put the fucker in a time bubble and he experienced billions of years in a couple of seconds and disintegrated.
He comes back as the gravemind though due to crazy precursor ancestral memory magic.
i don't even play halo but it's really stupid that in the game she turns evil they just so happen to make her uglier
really reinforces the stupid idea that ugly ppl are somehow inclined to be evil in some waycortana from halo 4 is probably the single most attractive video game female character in existence, untouched tomb raider reboot laura being a close 2nd
>>317651125
>mfw I have a clothes fetish and think this Cortana is the hottest ever
Too bad 343 is utter shit and everything it touches turns to garbage.
surely Halo 4 should have been enough for people to know 343i killed the franchise, but Halo 5 really seals the deal
I'm glad, since now I can stop bothering with Xbox
Reminder that 343 killed off The Rookie in the books like a little bitch and want you to just forget about him.
I will never forgive them.
>>317670035
Didn't they also make Micky a traitorous bitch too?
I heard something like that.
>>317670172
Yep, he was a secret Insurrectionist cause "muh parents are".
343 is literally just ruining Bungie's characters and trying to shove their DIVERSE mary sues down our throats.
>>317670035
Reminder that the rookie dying has no impact on the lore in on the large scheme of things and he's an insignificant character.
Reminder that had he not shown up in new blood he probably would have ever shown up again anyways and might as well have been dead
Reminder that what makes the rookie cool is that he's an ODST and not a spartan, and that's it, and if he lived he'd be an S4 and it'd ruin his character, and that they can always tell more stories about things he's already done.
Him dying was the right choice.
I haven't played it yet but I've heard that the marketing was really deceptive, even more so than usual. Why was this?
>>317670472
I wouldn't have minded his death as much if they didn't make him go out like a little fucking pussy. This is the guy who survived solo in a Covenant-infested city for hours. Nope, captured by Insurrectionists and shot in the back of the had like a dog. 343 has no respect for fan favorite characters and are a bunch of shitters.
Halo is dead.
>>317670035
>like a bitch
yes, because Halo is full of heroic deaths, like floating out in space, get shot in the head with a needle rifle, or being choked out by an infection form
>>317670605
How about Noble Six going out in a blaze of glory after fighting the Covies off for hours? How about Emile taking out two Elites with him before dying? Johnson taking one last shot at Guilty Spark to help Chief before kicking the bucket?
Come on man.
>>317670472
> not wanting a friendly rivalry between Buck and Rookie as they're assigned to two different Spartan teams
Well you can just leave
>>317670732
I honestly wanted him to remain an ODST. Maybe becomes an ONI deep cover agent or some shit, I love him as a Badass Normal.
>>317666421
Halo 4's Never Forget (Midnight Version) is a much better track, to be frankly frank, family guy.
>>317670584
see
>>317670605
Also canonically, most of ODST was probably the rookie sneaking and taking guys out from behind only when needed.
>>317670732
I don't think that'd work though unless it was like an offhand comment and then he never came up again, and then what's really the difference in practice between that and him being dead?
>>317670891
Already replied to him friendo
>>317670472
Rookie existed as a silent player character Bungie made. It feels kinda cheap for 343 to pull him back out in a novel just to off him.
>>317670959
It might feel cheap but if you look at the situation objectively it was at worst a neutral change and at best the right choice to make.
There are many, many worse things to be angry at 343 over.
>>317670812
> not wanting Rookie to outperform Buck while staying as an ODST and tongue-in-cheek rubbing it in his face
EVEN BETTER
> Team Osiris drop into some battlefield
> tons of enemies dead
> Rookie comes out from cover
> "All that armour must be weighing you down, Buck. Fun's over."
>>317671116
>rookie talking ever
>>317670035
he's literally nothing, half the game doesn't even involve him
>>317670717
;_;
>>317671116
I never knew how much I wanted this until now.
Except without Rookie talking.
Rook just walks out, dusts armor off a bit, looks at Buck who is bewildered and just shrugs and carries on with his business.
>>317670308
>DIVERSE mary sues
I don't think you know what that means
>>317671116
Them staying an ODST would be dumb though why the fuck would anybody do that
>>317649974
343i did. They are the masters of their craft.
>>317671256
I think he's just another "bungie is literally perfect" autist
>>317671256
"diverse" was supposed to be sarcastic you moron. It's about 343 shoving in "diversity" by making the MC a nigger and adding in WYMN spartans
>>317671165
>>317671227
> just looking at all the dead enemies, looking at Buck and shrugging slightly.
>>317671283
Not every single person is eligible to be a Spartan-IV. Sure, they can sign up, but they might not be accepted.
>>317649974
Cortana is Microsoft answer to Siri.
Makes sense she is evil now, I guess.
>>317671334
Oh, so you ARE an actual autist.
Good to know
>>317671346
>Not every single person is eligible to be a Spartan-IV. Sure, they can sign up, but they might not be accepted.
This whole fucking argument depends on the rookie being badass enough to not die in the first place though, why *wouldn't* he be good enough to be an S4?
>>317671394
>a-autist
If you don't think 343's character choices are obvious pandering you are a fucking moron
I just want to play as an Elite ;_;
>>317671506
They never had a chance for 5, jet packing and ground pounding an shit would all look dumb as fuck with an elite and would be a ton of extra work.
>>317652073
Kill, Marry, Kill, Fuck with the force of a thousand suns
>>317671485
> being alive means you can be a Spartan
That's not how it works. There's probably a ton of living Marines that survived the human-Covenant war that aren't suitable to be Spartans.
Anyway, the entire thing we're talking about is Rookie keeping up with, or surpassing, a Spartan-IV like Buck while remaining human.
>>317668391
>People say sprint and jetpack broke map flow in reach are wrong, it's broken to begin with.
They broke it HARDER
>>317671732
Not really. The only map where the flow changed or was sped up/altered was sword base when you have jet pack, but that also makes the map less shit.
Why is 343's visual design so shit?
>>317671485
>Badass humans are not allowed, anyone who might be remotely cool should be a SIV.
343i pls
>>317671820
Please negro jetpack absolutely breaks half of the Arena playlist maps in Reach and normal maps like Reflection and Asylum.
Theres a reason it got removed from MLG playlist after testing.
>>317649974
Wtf did they do to her? She was perfect in the last game.
>>317649974
AI can choose anything to look like.
>chooses Debbie Addams.
>>317672024
How does having a jetpack break things? It makes you a massive target and you're more likely to get singled out and killed
>>317670881
Was that ever actually used in the game? I don't remember it
>>317673139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J_MNbuY3MY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBDmIsicbY
>It makes you a massive target and you're more likely to get singled out and killed
This isn't how it works in high level play when each team is basically 4 jetpack v 4 jetpack.
