>crates
>keys
>skins
>we reserve the right to sell you weapon packs in the future :^)
http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/details.html
you guys aren't gonna let them get away with that, are you?
TF2 crates/keys have ruined all future f2p games with microtransactions. Prove me wrong.
>>317619082
The difference is Payday 2 and KF2 aren't free 2 play.
get away with what? the exact same shit they did in KF1?
anyone who bought KF2 and didn't know this would happen is a fucking moron
>>317619082
It's not even f2p
>>317619082
TF2 might be the light that started the fire, but CS GO is the fucking flamethrower
payday 2 based their awful system on this, and now KF2 does too
>>317619159
KF1 was full of DLC garbage, but I'm pretty sure this will feature BOTH DLC and microtransactions, like PD2
Because why the fuck not
Really? Game is not out of EA yet and they already killed it. Now the only people you will see "playing" the game are steam underaged faggots farming items to sell at the market like TF2 and Counter Strike.
>>317619082
While I agree that it started in tf2, when CS:GO picked it up that's when it got real bad. Mainly because of the faggy streamers and "top players" showing an interest in them, and the dumb ass lambs that watch them want them too. I don't even know why games with a PvE centric feel try to shove this shit out
tl;dr It's bullshit and only shows incompetence in devs
>>317619082
>Valve have ruined all future games on Steam with microtransactions. Prove me wrong.
ftfy
They don't even have a good playerbase to pull this shit on...Isn't this going to kill the game even more?
>>317619159
KF1 only had DLC. This keys and TF2 crates bullshit is new for KF.
/v/ lets them get away with anything
killing floor and red orchestra 41-45 were decent
they viraled on /v/ to get people to "support the cool developers" by buying skins and that was the downfall
by the time the disaster that was RO2 came out they already completely killed KFs meta with their meme weapons they previously promised they wouldnt charge for and a billion retarded skins
RO2 was shit and they heavily viral marketed it until aspies started playing it, i honestly cant imagine how they found a playerbase for that steaming turd even after rising storm came out, the game still has features missing they promised /five years/ prior
KF2 already had pre order bonuses and tie ins announced before any content from the game was shown, its fucking awful and will only get worse as it goes on now that they have the valve fanbase, why are you even surprised that they're putting microtransactions in a full game at launch when this kike studio is the one that pushed the idea that "you bully girl gamers we take your CD key away" is completely okay?
>Payday 2 gets microtransactions
>"Everyone move to KF2!"
>KF2 gets microtransactions
That's it, I'm literally going to kill myself now. This hobby is fucking dead and now I have no reason left to live.
>>317619082
Valve is cancer.
Literally the same thing they had with KF1, only added crates and curated shop. Don't know why you guys are pulling the PD2 case in here.
But yeah this coming out before core shit is ridiculous.
tfw refund denied
>>317619509
>buy some skins and maybe we'll make more maps ;)
Fuck off Tripwire, you kikes.
>>317618947
Two fucking updates since release and now microtransactions, you can't make this shit up.
It's not even out of early access, how could they think this was a good idea.
>>317619267
>>317619393
DLC that was just a weapon pack, and some of the DLC weapons were pretty much just reskins of already existing weapons. they even had advertisements for their DLC play in the fucking game lobby. the ONLY difference is that now it's a little more random what you get and you can trade the DLC weapons
>>317619082
Cosmetic bonuses or secret costumes have been ruined in video games forever because of microtrasnactions in general.
>>317619509
>B-BUT ITS COSMETIC
hi yoshiro
remember when you faggots pushed that lie with KF1 and then started selling pay2win weapons?
remember how you said you would never ever sell pay2win weapons just a year prior
i do :^)
>>317619771
spot the tripwire employee
>five maps
>six perks
>zeds still teleport
>terrible balance
>OH HEY GUYS HOW DO YOU LIKE CRATES THAT YOU CAN ONLY OPEN WITH REAL MONEY :^)
if this was some $5 game or some F2P shit, I'd be somewhat okay with that. But thousands of people spent >$20 on this game and have received a whooping TWO content updates so far.
KF2 is already dead and not fun.
Just let it rot.
>cosmetic skins only
>not P2W overpowered weapons
I'm okay with this actually. DOTA 2 and CS:GO has best microtransaction model outside from no microtransactions. Let devs milk the morons while smart people avoid and stop caring about 100% COSMETIC gun skins like the autists you are. In fact, it might be an acceptable alternative to KF1's ridiculous DLC packs.
>>317619957
they're gonna sell weapons anon
I don't care that they wanted to give hats to guns. It's the fact they're wasting time with this now instead of pooling more resources toward perks or levels. This shit could have waited until the game left EA but nope, let's alienate our audience when the Payday 2 bullshit is still fresh in people's mind. Granted they aren't the same, but this crates and key content is going to carry a heavy stigma for a long time.
>Early Access
>Consistent complaints of lack of content and variety
>"Have some crates :^)"
TF2 were a mistake.
>>317618947
I heard you can refund a game no matter how many hours you have played as long as it is in early access
Is this true? I put 40 hours in it and I was satisfied but I now do not want them to have my money.
reminder that le based Valve started this cancer
>sold over 700000 copies according to steam spy, most of them at $30
>g-guys we need your money to develop more content
at least Payday 2 was a finished game with content before they went ballistic
>>317619957
>alternative
>Implying crates aren't the root of nickle and diming models
Yeah, we'll see.
>Just $2.99 for a custom helmet!
>Just $4.99 for a custom battle worn rifle with phrase!
>>317620326
So long as it's 100% cosmetic and not gameplay affecting like in KF1 it's okay for me.
I've seen retards thinking DOTA2 is P2W while it has only cosmetic microtransactions. Seems to be the same case here.
>>317620559
For such a game that would never wor-
>unless it's a Vietnam
Welp.
>>317620630
nobody's arguing that this is pay2win. They're adding this layer of RNG bullshit ON TOP OF their pay2win weapon packs.
Here, from the FAQ:
>"All of the content added in Trading Floor at launch will be cosmetic only and not affect gameplay in any way. In the future we may be adding weapons with new gameplay for sale, but this will appear in the “Shared Content” area on the server."
>>317619771
>>317619892
>saying that TW has always been full of shit, instead of just recently, makes me a TW employee
how the fuck can you be so goddamn stupid that you think what im saying is pro TW
people were fucking pissed about KF1s DLC, anyone who didn't see this coming obviously wasn't there for KF1 AND didn't listen to anyone who was. you faggots got what you asked for, bitching about it just proves how retarded you all are
>>317619082
>ruined all future f2p games
you can't ruin something that's already broken
>>317620176
I'm not sure, but I just put in a request for a refund. Can't hurt to try.
I see where this game is going, and I'm not too fond of it. Remember when they projected this game would leave Early Access by the end of 2015?
don't worry its just early access ;)`
-Game is in Early Access since April
-Only one major update
-Dead game
>lel, let's go with micro transactions, that's gonna save it
I hope everyone who worked on this turd gets cancer. YOU FUCKS
>>317620845
I don't, but I would.love to see source so I can spread this
>>317618947
Start posting against it everywhere you can or cry about it later when they dont remove it.
>>317618947
>early access
>no content
>microshittery
>dlc before the game is done
Well these people can eat my shit.
Good think the game is already pirate friendly and fully playable with my friends, hopefully its worth 1-2 lans for the 0 money I'll invest into it.
>>317620740
Okay, fuck Tripwire if that's the case.
Why DOTA2 is still the only F2P/crate kikery game where there are no P2W shit? Even CSGO has done bullshit with Operation Jewery token DLCs.
What kind of Early Access you want fampai?
I think this is dirty and grimy as shit at least they never said they would never add microtransactions like OK did for PD2.
>weapon skins
come on /v/ it's cosmetic only
Atleast the weapons will be like the Chiv crossover
>>317621058
see
>>317620740
It's not bad right now, but it will only get worse.
>He doesn't scam people with disguised gachapon
what are you a goy
>>317620970
From the KF2 store page:
>Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“Until it’s done...
No, we're not kidding. We know we’ve all seen games hit Early Access and seemingly never get to the point of Full Release, but our goal is to have KF2 out before the end of 2015. We have to balance what is in Early Access, then incrementally add more content, re-balance, more content, re-balance, rinse-and-repeat until we have all the content in and balanced.”
>incrementally add more content
>>317618947
Is this what they meant by "doing early access right?"
>>317620740
>cosmetics don't affect gameplay
Yeah its not like people play tons of games for cosmetics only.
>Content Creation Times
>>317619246
>>317619363
TF2 is free to play and CS:GO has been on sale for $3.5 countless times, theres no comparison.
>>317618947
This kind of outrageous. Not only are we past the estimated 6 month deadline to get out of early access, but there have been so few updates and they're not even close to final release, and they've now decided to put in Valve's crate bullshit into their game?
Fuck all videogames. Fuck Valve for introducing that shitty crate system, too.
If you bought the game, start posting in their forums against it, and give the game a negative review.
>6 months
>two perks
>3 maps
>add microtransactions
What the fuck is this shit? At least Payday 2 had some content and a release before going full kike.
>I bought into this game
I've been wishing I could refund this for a while but I have 17 hours played, there's probably no chance
>>317621662
no more hugs, will
>>317621226
if anyone put this as the reason for the refund I doubt that Steam can deny it even with some good amount of hours
>>317621662
>Preordering Early Access
We keep reminding you to never EVER consider buying any Early Access games, yet you keep on falling for it every single time.
>>317619791
>Duel Flare guns allowed anyone to wreck FP
Made me so goddamn mad, fucking liars
>>317621580
For the record, at least 50% of PD2s "content" is locked behind a paywall.
>>317621662
Can't you refund this shit?
I mean its not even released
vermintide filled every craving I had/have for coop games and has cosmetics as drops anyways. spent like 5 hours in KF2 and regretted it, over 100 hours now and still want to beat shit on cataclysm
>>317621394
Ok fine, you would show off your overpriced faggy skin in a PvP game to rub your dick/ego in poorfags' faces. It has no business in a PvE game. There, is that better?
>"early access done right"
>>317621712
help.steampowered.com
There's no harm in trying. I'd urge everyone else to do the same.
>>317621916
No such fucking thing. Early access is cancer.
>>317621662
Somebody else bought it for me because of region locks, so I can't even refund it even though I paid for it.
>Game goes up in price so that the original sale price is the discounted price for sales
>Next to no content, game takes ages to update
>Early access
>BUT WE SURE CAN ADD MICROTRANSACTIONS GUYS
they're fucking cosmetics so autismos can play dress up.
i wanna know about what's wrong with the gameplay, not some cash shop bullshit. literally who cares about that.
>>317621712
You can. Just argue that they added a previously not mentioned layer of monetisation that significantly changes the prospect and value of the game.
>>317622038
You can refund it, your friend gets the money though.
>>317621987
I'll give it a shot, I just wish I hadn't put as many hours into the game as I did when I first got it.
>>317621998
Grim Dawn has been alright so far, but that's about it.
>>317620891
that's a sad list but papers, please is a good game
>>317618947
Refunded
>>317618947
>being such a huge jew that you actually go out of your way to encrypt weapon skins and sell them
Wow. That's more jewish than even EA and that's saying something.
>>317622139
What's wrong with this is that instead of adding actual content to this dead game, they focused on adding microtransactions
Its sad. This game had so much potential, but they are literally wasting it all with their focus on irrelevant cosmetic bullshit. Fucking hell there are still 4 perks that have not been finished yet.
>>317622174
Same. I told them my game would freeze and crash to desktop, but the game still ran in the background and racked up hours.
>>317622139
What's wrong with the gameplay is that it's nowhere near finished, but instead of completing it we're getting skins instead
>>317621784
Not only this but also they said they would during development, why is this a surprise, god how a board be so autistic?
Well, never refunded a game in my life but this will be the first. Adding microtransactions when the game is still in early acess missing most of its content for 6 months is just a fuck you to everyone who bought your game.
>guys chill out it takes us 6+ months to make a single map, also please don't port kf1 maps over for us we'd like to do that in the future
>so heres some microtrasactions for you
/v/
Answer this:
Do you enjoy playing the base game?
Will this affect the base game?
If yes, how so?
>zed-conomy
>Keks don't now how much money is to be made off idiots who buy this shit.
I haven't paid any of my own money on a steam game in years thanks to retards buying these skins/cards and what ever else I can shill on the marketplace.
>>317621808
It was also a full release of a game. They just realized they could milk it.
>>317622467
Is it confirmed? Can you refund this at any time even with +2 hours play time?
>>317622591
I don't like the fact I have to pay 30+$ for a game with only 3 maps, and devs that constantly lie to us
>>317622591
reminder tripwire staff have used this excuse since KF1
reminder they aggressively post it in every single thread where someone calls them kikes
I understand it is only cosmetic.
I am upset that they are releasing a cash shop in an early access game that gets one third of the content update frequency they promised.
I have to say, they tricked me good. This is the first and last game I have ever purchased in early access.
Am I doing it right?
REMINDER IF YOU PLAYED THE FREE WEEKEND YOU CAN LEAVE A REVIEW ON THE GAME. LOWER THAT SHIT
>>317622717
You can request a refund for any game, despite playtime or how long it has been since you purchased it. Since it's a greenlight title and a lot of people will be refunding i'd say there's a good chance for them to accept the request if you specify what your problem was.
>>317622978
good to know. Seriously considering it at this point.
>>317622748
Thats not what he asked.
>people are defending it on the forums
>"but you dont have to participate in the market!"
Nigger the market is a huge content update that was done INSTEAD of another class and more maps.
It is something they had the team work on for months, artists and programmers, and now I get nothing new.
>bought the game on release for full price
>5 weeks later it was on sale
>Barely any new maps
>Still missing perks
Fuck Tripwire I'm never buying another on of their games
>>317618947
>>we reserve the right to sell you weapon packs in the future :^)
It says this where?
>>317621837
I cant, because I played for 4 hours or so.
Although I wish Valve would make an exception, since I didnt know I am buying into a game with an item store.
>>317622660
Teach me your ways, anon.
>>317619907
This the future of gaming. People want to make as much money as possible and as long as retards give these companies money they will keep milking it.
Good thing kf2 sucks.
>>317623173
Tell them the game doesn't work anymore. Has issues booting and shit
>>317622304
>>317622391
the team working on this is very likely different from the people who actually make the content in the game. likely they have a small group of people working on the long term monetization of the game.
jewish and money-grubbing? absolutely. I fucking hate this TF2 crate system with a passion. poor timing? yes, because the game is a long ways off from done. but all that matters is the gameplay in the end. buying games in early access is fucking retarded.
>>317622859
I'm proud of you.
>>317622859
yes, but I would change the "it doesn't seems like they don't have" to simply "they don''t have" for a bigger impact, and maybe remove the "back in april".
>>317623249
Do I seriously fucking need a separate account to contact support?
>>317622859
can't refund early access games :^) enjoy your purchase!
>explicitly states that it's all cosmetic
>kf1 had shit like this all the damn time
Yeah I'd rather have a perk or 2 and a few maps, but it's not like they're making you pay for direct upgrades. Besides, I accepted that early access is fucking retarded and they'd be done with the game by now (outside maybe some maps and shit) had they not put it in early access. Can't do much about that now besides wait and hope it gets a full release. Or at the very least more perks.
I bought red orcestra 2 day one for 70$ and it was 10$ within 3 months
I bought kf2 day one and it was 40$ on sale for 15 three months later
I've spent over 100$ on kf1 and it's dlc
I just feel like I'm being played here, I don't feel like tripwire has my interests in mind when they announce things like this and intentionally delay content updates until holiday sales
>>317623501
I'm not sure. Think it's tied to your main.
>>317623485
After reading it over again, I reworded a few of the sentences.
>>317623516
KF1 is at least a full game
>>317620176
Maybe if your reasoning is decent enough.
I had a lot of successful refunds way before the system was implemented, including cases where I had more than 10 hours of playtime.
>>317623048
Actually, reading the TWI forums, alot of them are at least "unsure" about it. Which is a big step from the constant fanboy shilling that normally occurs there.
>>317623516
>b-but kf1 did that too so its okay
And the microtransations part was awful, and its going to be even worse now.
>>317623173
Still try it, an early access game introducing dlc and cash shops?
outrage
though I'm sad, as much as you retards would deserve to lose your money and get a shitty game instead, I'd prefer if the dev went under
>negative reviews rising and positives going down by the minute
kek
>>317623621
True, but I'm not defending that they're being slow as all fuck on these updates.
>>317618947
That red skin on the gun is sexy though.
>>317623307
Then they need to divert those people to help with making the real content. The regular excuse for TWI is that they are a smaller studio. Thats fine, just stop wasting precious man power on shit the game doesnt need right now.
>doing this kind of dumb shit RIGHT AFTER OVERKILL GOT LIT UP FOR DOING THE EXACT SAME THING
Tale of two shit devs. Fucking embarrassing.
>>317618947
HAHHAAHHAHAHHA
FIRST IT WAS PAYDAY 2
NOW ITS KILLING FLOOR 2
ALL GAMERS ARE C U C K S
>tfw KF2 made me abandon KF1 because killed the hype
I really do not mind weapon skins.
Its way better to fill your cashshop with useless cosmetics rather than OP, p2w garbage, doubly true in p2p games.
>>317620559
Can I get a staktrak that plays "It ain't me"?
>>317624032
too bad they're doing both, and they're doing both before their game even leaves early access
>>317624032
Too bad they're adding weapons later too.
>>317624032
How about the game has no cash shop and I get to have all its content since I paid for the game?
>>317618947
>first payday 2
>now this
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
>>317624032
I don't mind how they did them in KF1, but it's retarded that they're "j-just t-testing the waters" with a REAL MONEY system in an EARLY ACCESS game.
The guns will feel ass too, since it'll be about "who has the most stattrak flourescent balisongs" rather than "neato my weapon is gold"
>>317624131
Citation needed
It's good to see people here requesting refunds. You should also write a negative review.
This update could have waited until more perks and maps came out, but no. It's clear they don't want to make a game.
>>317624032
How about finishing your game first.
How about no cashshop at all. Why is it needed in a pay2play game other than jewery?
wish me luckI know it's fucked but a man can dream...
>>317623876
software development doesn't work that way. there's a point at which adding more people does nothing.
the real concern here isn't adding microtransactions to an early access game - it's the possibility of this game turning into P2W garbage like Payday 2. also with a more consistent revenue stream (as their sales have naturally declined) this opens up the possibility of feature creep, which EVERY fucking early access/kickstarter game seems to suffer from.
>>317623887
except tripwire will make a million dollars and only lose the 1% from kf1 who are butt-blasted their game is being remade as kf2 with the playstation in mind
face it, the people offended by this junk are the same people who bitch that vanillia tf2 was the only way to play
you're dinosaurs, and you're about to go extinct while we all have fun
trading and getting exclusive stuff is often more fun than the actual game, so literally everyone wins and they efficiently expand the player base
>still no way to add custom tracks
EVERYONE POST A NEGATIVE REVIEW
THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU PULL THIS SHIT TRIPWIRE
>>317624554
Same here, my man. I'm so sad right now.
>>317620994
That's because valve actually likes Dota 2, at the International Gabe talked about how during the superbowl valve was too busy watching some big tournament in China instead of the Seahawks get whooped.
>>317624734
YOU CAN POST A NEGATIVE REVIEW EVEN IF YOU DID FREE WEEKEND ACCESS
>Your refund request has been received by Steam!
Complained about false advertising. Didnt know I am buying into a game with a cash shop, and was promised frequent updates and getting all future content for free.
>>317624847is that moonfox?
>>317622859
>microtranactoins
>>317624718
Fuck you! MORE DEMON HUNTER!
For fuck sake, Tripwire.
You'd think after the abysmal launch of RO2, and their way of handling it, they wouldn't pull anymore stupid shit. Man, do they find ways to one up themselves.
>>317624734
Done. If we can get it down to "Mixed" I'll be happy.
>>317625005
I wasn't complaining about the current tracks. I wanted to add the rest of the discography of the bands.
>>317624945
Not sure. Not into the cosplay scene
>>317620994
dota 2 is the only game I know of that actually removed the crate gambling bullshit and 1% drop legendary 600$ golden asscandle-holding-gremlin-courier to put in a system where they literally get less money, and give away more skins
my friends are paying 10$ a patch (1-2.50 per treasure, usually 1 to 5 times to get all the skins if they're any good) instead of the 60+ they used to drop trying to get the golden kike shit
meanwhile csgo is still fucked, I have a friend who blows most of his paycheck on crates and keys because "ive got three knives man ive made my money back and more" no you haven't jackass, you've spent over 600$ on keys and only like 200 in valvebux from selling the one knife you didn't like (and keeping the other)
pic related, it's the shit valve literally removes from the workshop when it gets too popular
>>317625005
I'm still waiting for the mod that changes all the tracks into Collapsing.
>>317625005
>hating on Collapsing
You want to know the absolute tragedy of this?
Tripwire didn't even make those skins. You can find these in the workshop. This is 0 effort coming from TW, and they're just cashing in on the community. It didn't take "developer manpower" to produce this shit.
This is not okay.
>>317625284
>>317625227
tfw collapsing on the way out of KF2
>>317625114
>>317625227
>>317625284
Nah, I like Collapsing. I just wish there was more variety.
>early access done right
>all future updates for free
>free content expansion packs
>the 30$ price will never change during early access because you're buying the full game
>we'll let you test out perks/classes and maps before they're finished, that's what early access is all about
>frequent updates and full transparency
>early access founders will get special shit on the forum so we can take your feedback into consideration since you know the game better than we do with your 500+ hours
>>317624690
Except that the game is shit and more people play KF1 than KF2.
>112 posts
>13 upvotes
oh wow, they managed to screw up so badly that even reddit is mad
>>317622889
>REMINDER IF YOU PLAYED THE FREE WEEKEND YOU CAN LEAVE A REVIEW ON THE GAME. LOWER THAT SHIT
lel, its true
I hope everyone here is doing the same
>went gambling or anything of the sort
>tfw realize I would have a gambling problem because im a sucker for these cosmetic packs and I have thrown $50-$200 on a few different games
>Tfw companies keep implementing this model
>tfw gave away halo 5 because I kept buying packs
Fucking Jews
>>317620994
because it'd be impossible to add P2W shit to Dota 2 without the entire community losing its mind. in shooting games you can get away with the whole "it's a side grade" shit because guns are generally closely balanced and, barring isolated incidents where guns are absurdly OP/UP, are mostly up to preference with recoil, fire rate, mag size, auto/single fire etc.
if you tried the same shit in dota it wouldn't work because items are literally just numbers and it'd be real easy to find out how gold efficient an item is.
>>317625452
I SEE THE WEIGHT OF HOLLOW DEATH
RESIDING IN YOU
![GfaFdU07SyOugff9pJZN_gun_to_head_suicide[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SIyoFWB.jpg "GfaFdU07SyOugff9pJZN_gun_to_head_suicide[1].jpg")
>I bought this and Payday 2
>>317625593
Remember to hit that thumbs down.
COSMETICS
>COSMETICS
what's the problem again?
>>317625678
Money wasted so badly.
I have never been so disappointed in a game. I always try to look at things in a positive way, but this time i just can't
fuck you tripwire. you had such an easy job.
all you had to do was remake kf1 with a new engine. thats it, that would've kept everyone satisfied
>>317618947
Fuck Tripwire. Once they started catering to the special snowflakes was the moment they were dead to me.
Hopefully this is the final nail to their coffin, so they can be tossed in that grave they dug up for themselves and covered with tons of dirt.
>Sir, we are losing our player base
>Release weapon skins you have to pay for!
I'm happy I bought Grim Dawn and not this shit
DO NOT POST ON THE STEAM FORUM WITH YOUR ACTUAL ACCOUNT
DO NOT POST ON THE STEAM FORUM WITH YOUR ACTUAL ACCOUNT
DO NOT POST ON THE STEAM FORUM WITH YOUR ACTUAL ACCOUNT
http://www.pcgamer.com/killing-floor-2-eula-promises-bans-for-cyberbullies/
>>317625354
they're also giving the opportunity for the community to cash in, just like csgo
>>317618947
Fuck.
>tfw bought it before steam refunds were out
That's it. This is the last time Tripwire sees my money.
Fuck them.
>>317625678
>I bought this and Payday 2 on release
>Special edition for both
The best part is that now that they won't remove microtransactions, no matter how bad the reception is.
>>317625957
KF2 is better than KF1 in almost every respect though
>>317619921
That's the thing, it is fun for me.
And then this happens.
Picture is how I'm gonna play the game from now on.
>>317626080
That's fucked up, yo
>>317622619
>not Z-conomy
>>317622619
>>317626304
>not ZED-crashing-this-game-with-no-survivors
>>317625678
>bought Payday 2 for $7 on sale
>used the DLC unlocker and got everything else for free
>230 hours later get bored
>a month after not touching it they announce skins and fix the unlocker
>still rated them down in steam
I'm okay with it.
>>317626080
What does that have to do with cash shop in an incomplete game?
![tSg1Cjp[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ESNHpd6.png "tSg1Cjp[1].png")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6tS_V65380
I, I bought this game of hollow depth believing in you
Take now my final cash
and spend it on booze
I see the game has nothing left
dead fragments of fun
You take the money for yourself
and start to run
I mourn my blindness
I was so wrong
Why did I buy this
Early Access is where I belong
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I buy
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I deny
I, I know the game is running thin and dying on you
I bought the lies that lie within
I fell for it too
I mourn my blindness
I was so wrong
Why did I buy this
Early Access is where I belong
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I buy
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I deny
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I buy
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I deny
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I buy
I brought this onto myself
I don't know why - I deny
>>317619907
You know the people developing the game and the micro transactions are different right?
>>317626413
they're banning people who are shitposting on the steam forum, or at least the vol moderators are
>>317626304
Everyone outside of america is physically incapable of saying "Zee."
>Zedbra
>Majinga Zeto
>>317626217
>KF2 is better than KF1 in almost every respect though
wow you sure showed me with those facts
>>317626413
You bully the hard working developers
>>317624734
I wonder if they can ban people for negative reviews or just downboats from shills
>>317626474
then maybe they should hire more people to develop ACTUAL CONTENT
>>317626507
Just like the Payday dev did
Hell i was banned from both games steam forums ages ago.
Even got blocked a while ago from Tripwire on twitter
>>317626431
>>317620303
>t least Payday 2 was a finished game with content before they went ballistic
It wasn't though.
>>317620303
payday 2 wasn't finished, they had to cut out a tonne of shit because of the xbox 360's hardware restrictions (happy ten year anniversary 360!)
you can't do 7 day heists with 512mb of ram nigger, it's just not possible
>>317621268
elaborate please
soooooooooo
what games do pc gamers have left to be proud of?
kf was the big one I heard about often
>>317626141
I bought both special editions as well.
Fuck. Both companies had such a fall from grace from their previous games.
>>317626798
>>317626687
you have to admit though that there are several magnitudes of difference between "PD2 unfinished" and "KF2 unfinished".
>>317626972
>soooooooooo
>>317621129
>Our goal is for any such weapons to be sides grades anyway, so they won't provide an edge over the current tier of weapon power.
The same bullshit they spat out when giving out the fucking flare guns in kf1.
>KF1 had over $100 of cosmetics AND gameplay changing weapons
>KF2 also has payable cosmetics but this time everyone can make dosh out of it
TRIPWIRE WHY DO YOU BETRAY US THIS IS LIKE TOTALLY NOT EXPECTED AND LIKE TOTALLY WORSE THAN IN THE FIRST GAME HOW DARE YOU
kf1 was one of my favorite co-op games of all time
i remember how hyped i was for the sequel, how people here would post the new dev videos the second they came out and we would all talk about how great everything looked
and then they went into early access and never added any content
and now this
why, /v/? why? i just wanted to have fun
why would they do this?
>>317626431
>I mourn my blindness
>I was so wrong
>Why did I buy this
>Early Access is where I belong
Fucking 10/10 anon
>>317626431
10/10
>>317627124
read the thread before you shitpost
>>317627124
the first weapon pack nearly killed the game nigger, why does everyone conviently ignore this? kf at one point was in the top 10 games on steam, and every holiday got a huge update that made the front page
they added weapons and everyone with a brain quit, the community never recovered but tripwire was making money with their ancient game and it didn't cost them a penny or an hour of dev time to do it, so why would they stop?
>>317627124
KF1 was complete when they introduced cosmetics
KF2 isn't.
It shows where their priorities are, fuck off faggot.
>>317627313
all I see is people crying about the "good ol days" of KF1 where it was actually worse
>decide to level demo on a perk server since it blows before 15
>lvl 25 demo gets on and starts blowing up every wave with c4
>"why the fuck are you on a perk server if you're already max level?"
>"im playing the game"
>watch this retard spam c4 for 15 mins for no reason before i quit in disgust
>>317626972
>LoL
>dota 2
Kek
>>317627462
People are pissed because the have people making this shit instead of the actual game.
>>317618947
Tripwire selling weapon packs? Wow that is completely crazy, unheard of, out of the blue, so sudden, unimaginable, etc etc
>>317618947
>6 hours played
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
>yfw you didn't buy Killing Floor 2
>>317627561
they don't have people making this shit since the community is making this shit, which a lot of people are actually complaining about
Put off getting a refund until now since the game itself is a lot of fun but severely lacking content. This shop shit is the final nail in the coffin though, how fucking dare they use dev time to make a shitty cash shop when the game is still barebones as fuck. Fuck you Tripwire, thanks for the £20 back.
>>317627626
help.steampowered.com
Try anyway. They have made exceptions before.
>>317627687
why is america-chan so fat
60 hours played, refund denied, not sure what I can do at this point besides change my recommendation
early access done right my ass
>>317627561
I don't know why you retards think that people making maps, animating, doing voice overs, coding, etc. drop are the ones making the micro transaction bullshit.
>>317626537
What the fuck are you barking you stupid cunt
>Cinta (zeenta)
>Cizaña (Zeezanha)
>Cicatriz (Zeekatreeth)
Both spanish words
I find it funny that even for a 30$ game, the base price only gets you the utilitarian version of the game.
Playing dress-up is actually kinda fun, but if you want to do it? Fuck you, fork over more money.
>>317619246
This
CS:GO fucking made creates worse with their individual rarity tiers for items. Before all cosmetics used to be equal value.
Issued a refund for the second time because that's bullshit.
If it doesn't work I'll try again with the actual support page
I'm a map maker from KF1. I was working on a KF2 map, but now I've stopped because this raises so many fucking questions.
>Will community maps become official?
>If so, will they be DLC or free updates?
>If free, how will TW compensate map makers?
Making it DLC will be absolute bullshit for the community and I do not support it in the slightest. However, I doubt Tripwire will directly support mapmakers - if they do I can't imagine it'll be much, which is even more bullshit that a low-effort skin can make it into the game, but a map that takes MONTHS to develop will be essentially charity work.
This game is fucking dead to me.
>>317627140
Greed. Success breeding ever growing expectations of profit. Cutting development time of key features for cash-grab DLC.
>>317627415
>complete
yes because it only had 5 maps (which were already made years before the actual game lauched) and 6 perks
KF2 is in EA and already has more content
>>317619153
nor was TF2 at the time
>>317627849
I tried and they said no. I have 6.6 hours and 4 of those were spent day one trying to get into servers that didn't exist.
>>317628073
No they didn't
Hats were worth more than others and unusuals started the whole hat jew market
>>317628235
Complete = state and content the developers announced pre-early access.
So no, it is not complete. There are perks missing.
>>317628243
Yeah, but TF2 didn't have the whole CONDITION bullshit attached to it.
That's what pisses me off about these cosmetics. You can spend money on them, only to get something that looks like shit because of RNG.
These devs are worse than the people at Vegas.
I don't understand why they'd cater to the 16 year old russian kid who spends 600$ on keys every weekend, in the long run it's not a sustainable income or even a stable virtual economy
are developers just that desperate to make virtual casinos in a way that the irs won't tax them? are the gambling with the gamblers?
>>317627984
i dont know why tripwire would think it is a good idea to bring this shit up now rather than wait until the base game is released
when they are releasing the updates at a snail's pace, and then this comes out instead of actual content, i'd say that is a perfectly reasonable reaction to have
>>317628357
I never said KF2 was complete
>>317622859
God speed Anon.
>>317618947
You should kill yourself.
>>317619082
no ones making you buy it. they dont have any impact on the actual gameplay. quit crying
>KF2 beta thing comes out
>People praise it as the best thing ever.
>I'm legitimately confused as how this game is so popular for like a month
>It's just an FPS
>Not even a year later they introduce microtransactions ala crates
>The popularity goes severely down
Was it just /v/ who loved this game? I'm still confused on how this game was good in the beginning.
>Tfw won the game in a giveaway
It's just okay, but goddamn they're going full hebrew adding a cash shop while the game is still early access. I'd refund it, but I don't think it's possible to refund a gift.
>>317628591
>People praise it as the best thing ever.
That never happened.
>The popularity goes severely down
The game has been dead since a month after release, this isn't a new thing.
Why should I be upset about this when it just means free dosh for playing a game I like?
I've made over 300$ in csgo by doing basically nothing, sure it's not a lot in the long run but it's not a job, just a game I play for fun
>>317628591
It was a co-op FPS that was fun to play with buddies. Kinda like Payday.
>didn't buy killing floor 2
>didn't buy payday 2
Oh man this is fucking awesome.
the one comfort I have is that tribes didn't last long enough to go down this route, this is how all pc games will be in a few years
30-60 for the base game, 40-50 for the season pass, 30+ spent by the average person on a skin here or there during sales
Just curious. What defines completion of base game for KF2? The release of all the perks they promised? Can I get a source on that or did they promise all the perks in the base game on store page?
>>317620994
Even csgo doesn't have P2W shit. You earn exp for a completely useless rank slightly faster if you are in the Operation. You can still play the maps if you queue with anyone with them. It's just cosmetic shit nothing that helps you win but I get your point.
