You dumbshits told me VR was going to flop. What now faggots?
http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/21/samsung-gear-vr-sold-out-online-at-amazon-and-best-buy/
>>317606754
I've used google cardboard with the NY times VR app and it was really dissapointing and at the same time annoying and pointless to move your head around while sitting down and relaxing in a chair after a day of hard work
>>317606937
That's because Cardboard is fucking garbage
>>317607093
It's the same as this gear vr but slightly worse i suppose
>>317606754
90% of those people are buying it and expecting oculus-like experiences.
Prove me wrong.
>>317607839
>slightly
You obviously haven't tried both. Cardboard has no standards either so the level of quality varies greatly.
Honestly now, you think John Fucking Carmack has been doing nothing for the past year in the Oculus mobile department if Cardboard is slightly worse?
>>317606754
What is this for? Pc?
>>317608045
John Fucking Carmack is some midget assberger dude who has no idea what it takes to make real quality product
>>317607981
90% of those people buying it are having their first introduction to VR with GearVR. What, by expecting it do you mean watching reaction videos?
>>317608164
Good thing he isn't in charge of the final product but coding which is where he does best.
>>317608185
What I mean is they think they're going to play a bunch of cool "immersive" youtube reaction worthy games on their phones with that headset. I stand by that no one is going to develop games for it due to hardware limitations.
>>317608142
If by PC you mean personal cellphone then yes
>>317608485
The smaller indi games are the easiest to make. You really going to say that when the mobile marketshare is easily bigger than PC?
>>317608870
Most indie games made for phones do not benefit from VR.
>>317608952
Not what I meant, obviously the VR games made for cell phone hardware are going to be smaller in scale.
>>317608485
Most of them just want to watch TV. Netflix with the Oculus Cinema app is what sold it. Once they implement social features so you can netflix n chill over the net it's going to explode.
>>317609092
And people are expecting large scale, and will be severely disappointed by GearVR. No one is going to be developing for it next year when the hype is dead.
>>317609396
>And people are expecting large scale
Are you just pulling things out of your ass now? Nothing on the Rift is large in scale except for shit normies wouldn't play anyway like Eve Valkyrie. All those pewdiepie let's plays and whatnot that the masses have seen for VR have been small scale demos.
You're just as hell bent about this thing failing as the VR detractors and will be proven wrong again and again.
>>317606754
>sold out at amazon and shit
most geeks always buy anything online.
>>317609861
>geeks buying from Best Buy
mmmmkay
>>317609725
lol. you overestimate the normies. I'll bet most don't even know what they're buying. they are expecting a holodeck or holograms or some shit.
>>317609364
What's with the dumb idea of putting retarded names to each generation of children?
Isn't that why we have year numbers?
>>317606754
Being sold out doesnt necessarily mean it's a success, they could've just produce a low amount.
But whoever thinks VR is gonna flip is retarded. This is the next big thing in gaming.
>>317610038
You couldn't be more wrong. It's normies are the ones that are most impressed by it. If anything it's jaded gamers like /v/ are the ones expecting the holodeck. Just look at all the reaction videos on youtube and then look at /v/ complain about it because they didn't react the same way.
4chan is a terrible place to discuss VR unfortunely.
>>317611298
let's go to your place then, I'm all ears
>>317610209
Anyone who thinks this will take off more than 3d is a retard. Nobody with any family living with them will be able to use shit like this. You're shutting out all outside sight and sound... and that ain't gonna fly with the average gf/wife/mom. 3d tv was a group thing and it completely crashed and burned as a needless gimmick.
>Samsung
into le bin
>>317608045
Is this disease the reason he begins every sentence with 'ayy'?
>>317611687
They're making social games for it? Have you seen Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes? It actually looks really fun.
>>317611994
It doesn't matter what it can do, when it shuts you out of your immediate surroundings. It's a foolish pipe dream they'll keep pushing, but it won't work. People are more than happy with regular screens that still let them see the world around them.
>>317609960
they do anywhere online if amazon and shit like those are unavailable.
>>317610209
Just like it was 20 years ago, right?
>>317612242
More words of ignorance from someone that hasn't tried VR. Nothing will convince you.
>People are more than happy with regular screens that still let them see the world around them.
I beg to differ. People want their own personal theater for a change.
>>317611874
mmmmm....
>>317611572
And get it flooded with /v/ fags? no thank you
I don't see the appeal. It's not VR, it's just wearing a screen really close to your face.
And won't that end up being super bad for your eyes in the long run?
>>317612856
you are only supposed to use it for 1 minute every hour to prevent that
>>317613009
>>317612856
>>317612480
Dude guys, I'm so close to bingo
>>317612856
You really don't know what you are talking about, do you?
>>317613145
To be fair. Eye strain is a legit concern for a lot of VR users and a fairly big issue.
>>317612856
Yes it will. IEMs for hours aren't a great idea either, assuming thats what most of these will use for a slimmer profile and less weight.
>>317613145
You made a Bingo sheet for valid reasons?
>>317612609
god damn MMD miku
Right now it seems really fucking limiting and a bit gimmicky, and I'm scared how much it might fuck up already established genres with pointless VR shit.
>>317613292
No more than it is an issue for spending too much time on the computer.
I shall wait till it plugs in my brain.
Will it let me fuck animu girls?
>>317606754
thy gavemoney to people who dont deserve money
>>317613160
So you're saying that it isn't wearing a screen really close to your face?
Because it is
>>317613145
give me template, let the master do it
>>317613292
No, it's not at all, whatsoever. You're focusing out to 'infinity', it's a hell of a lot easier on your eyes than looking at a TV screen or monitor.
>>317613525
>>317613410
Except for the fact that a lot of people only get eye strain from VR and not a computer monitor.
Granted I'm using eye strain more as a catch all for "fatigue".
>>317613405
shit vr experiences on cheap devices will guarantee that the oculus remains a niche product with no salez
>>317613545
The optics focus to infinity see >>317613410
>>317606754
Literally apple watch 2.0
All retarded samsung drones buy it and no one else gives a fuck.
The preorders just prove this as its always the drones who pre-order shit.
>>317613682
Except you're talking about past VR headsets that had flaws
>>317613637
So. Then how come people keep talking about it?
>>317613852
Well. Mostly the oculusi.
>>317614173
Keep talking about it where? I haven't heard about eye strain being an issue for ages.
Basically the only issue there is left is that it has a fixed focus point. This is just something your brain gets used to which is why it takes a moment to adjust after you take the headset off. There have been talks with experts in the field about this, obviously Oculus has done this since they don't want to get sued, and it's really a non-issue. It'll be fixed with Light Field displays anyway.
>>317606754
Motherfucker. For a split second i thought that was the pricing on an Oculus or something, like an attempt at some crazy introductory offer to get people talking
Instead it's shitty cell phone VR. Lame
>phone VR
If you buy this then you won't even want to buy the rift. It's literally like eating ice cream before dinner.
>>317613410
>No more than it is an issue for spending too much time on the computer.
That too is an issue though. Only that VR is even worse because it's even closer to your eyes.
Reading books and staring at displays too much without a frequent change of distance and focus turns you near-sighted. Or rather, it worsens your eyes' ability to swiftly change focus at will. Meaning that you're still likely able to see good at the common distance you're used to, but your ability to focus clearly at other distances will be deteriorated.
The stereotype of bookworms with glasses isn't for nothing. It's a thing that really happens.
Why do people pretend that this is good for anything other than porn?
AR > VR
>>317616038
>Reading books and staring at displays too much without a frequent change of distance and focus turns you near-sighted.
Literally not how VR works
see >>317613637
>>317613770
>>317606754
i almost purchased one 3 or 4 days ago and then canceled because I dont have a Note 4 or S6. its a brick if you don't have one of those. and im not shelling out 700 bucks
>>317617172
The newest one works with all the current Galaxy phones. Note 4 is probably the cheapest way to go though.
>>317609364
All of at sudden I can see VR becoming a huge phenomenon. Wii status.
>>317617326
ya i had a galaxy 'Player5' and have had my doubts it would function with it as I searched online to see if comparable compatibility would suffice to fill the need of a galaxy phone but nothing would come up it just spammed me with S6 links. to top it all off if that wasn't bad enough I barely just got a lower left to upper right crack in the screen.
>>317616038
Oh. Well that explains why I'm near sighted.
>>317606754
Ooya was popular enough to get funded. (meaning units sold)
We all know what happened after that.
>>317615408
It also has a chance to completely demolish the public's opinion of VR
>>317606754
on one hand its a damn phone, why would i want to use a damn phone to do VR when i can do steam games and play games I already have a proven track record of enjoying already? emulation steam library, the whole shibang on my monitor xbox ps4 etc
and on the other hand i can see how it is a nice price reducer to introduce to the public the concept of vr and to try it out for their first time as they are already accustomed to netflix and app purchases and mobile app stores and things such as that. they already have (at least in general) some type of mobile phone and typically one of the latest kinds. ( there are some vr headsets that do iPhone.) but really reduces hardware prices when you already have your hardware in your pocket everyday beforehand.
but really i wish this wasn't true, but it is, this is an Ouya of VR guys. YES this *IS* literally the Ouya of VR.
>As of right now, Vive offers the best virtual reality we've ever experienced. This is thanks to the headset's two 1080 x 1200 screens, the highest resolution displays out there, and the two sensors that hang on your wall to track movement. The downside is that the Vive is expected to cost more than other headsets, possibly between £200 - £400.
>http://www.techradar.com/news/wearables/the-best-vr-headsets-2015-1292087
hmm... this might be worth while if it works with steam. but idk price.
>Availability Holiday 2015 | Price Unknown
thing looks like a cyborg haha
>Normies love popular marketed gimmicks
More news at 11:00.
>>317613145
Personally i'd rather wait for a direct to brain VR upload.
>>317622074
I'll just wait for anime to be real
>>317617326
>current
So, ones that released this year?
This garbage medium upgrades too fast. I blame Apple entirely.
>>317608536
underrated post
>>317613145
I'll wait till it plugs in my brain.I want someone to port Dactyl Nightmare to a consumer VR device, because I never got to try it before all the machines were removed from the arcades and then the arcades all shut down
>>317622172
It already is you plebeian.
So guys, what is the best prospect for a VR device out there?
Is it still the Rift, should I hold out for its release next year?
Why would anyone buy this VR shit? Isn't anyone scared of getting sucked into the computer world? Nobody even knows if there's a way back out!
>>317622074
That shit isn't happening in our lifetime.
>>317622484
Not with that attitude. We'd have it already if the U.S. gave the funding it gives to the military to Japanese virtual reality projects.
>>317606754
>requires $700 phone to work
kek
>>317622530
nigga we still don't have a complete understanding of the brain with all the brain imaging techniques we have. Now you think we'll get VR that will directly feed to the brain in the next 50 or so year?
>>317622548
Most people get phones free with a plan (which ends up being more than the price of the phone over a longer time).
>>317622647
I'm just saying it would be possible in a universe where people prioritized having VR sex with Anime girls instead of oil.
>>317622291
Don't be rude
>>317609364
Who the fuck is generation Z?
>>317622074
Do you really want serial port sticking out of your head?
>>317622376
power rangers went into cyberchase world, and inside digimont pokeyverse we were able to have pagers that turned into monstars so i figure its about eating time, whats for dinner?
>>317623153
Millenials
>>317606754
So what's the killer ap OP?
>Samsung Galaxy only
What the fuck
>>317623226
>not wanting to be able to interface directly with computers without peripherals
Do you hate progress?
>>317623353
Millennials are Generation Y. Generation Z are the people born after 2000.
>>317623153
people born from 1968 till now.
anyone not a baby boomer.
>>317612480
i always laugh at this argument
and i always hope its bait
>>317622074
this desu
>>317623226
I want unlimited ports so that they can all be filled.
>>317623610
You are grouping 3 generations into 1... Gen X, Y, and Z are separate.
>>317623539
It's the most popular Android.
>>317622484
Depends on your age. Apparently brain-to-computer is the next thing and with it brain-to-brain interfaces. And it's coming pretty soon as well if DARPA and other sources are anything to go by.
>>317623819
that would be like calling boomers generation W and their parents generation V
please tell me more how generation Z is the last generation on earth due to the alphabet
I refuse to believe anybody regularly coming on /v/ isn't a millennial. 10 year olds might come here but I don't think they're in high supply. Even current 11 year olds qualify as the same generation as 27 year olds.
>>317623153
>>317623601
The worst generation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fxls1XrcJc
>>317623539
He doesn't have a note 4.
Get a load of this pleb
>>317624256
>worst generation
>not baby boomers
i hope it works with Note 1
>>317624181
It always just feels like everybody is shitting on the babby boomers.
>>317613420
I need to know this
>>317624424
I think it's fair but there won't be anybody to blame when the last of them die in like 15 years.
Then real shit will have to get done.
>>317624181
What the fuck is homeland generation
>>317611298
most posts on /v/ are made with phones
tells you a lot
>>317622683
>free
>>317624524
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z
Generation Z, homeland refers to the defining moment of their era, the feeling of safety and protection of the homeland after September 11th (not joking).
>>317623153
As a 20 year old, I think maybe me? Jesus christ generational names are fucking stupid.
>>317624626
I literally covered this right in my post in the parentheses dude.
The phone is no-money down, which is called "free".
>>317624181
>Homeland Generation
iGen would have been better.
This whole VR thing will fail hard.
Too expensive for a bland gimmick people will get bored of it in a month, just like 3D movies.
What is even the point for using 3D on a phone?
What's the 3D content you can use?
>>317624764
When the people creating that term were creating it, Apple had literally JUST debuted the iPod. September 11th was more memorable at the time.
>>317624820
3D movies are not the norm in cinema, so that they milk you for more.
>>317624659
Wow that's some fascist shit.
Kids don't care about 9/11.
>>317609364
This would be cool if they made movies with limited user-interactions; such as head tracking for the protagonist in a on-rails sort of style.
Other than that I don't see the point. Even in games the only appeal I see with VR is racing and first person games to an extent.
>>317624908
It's the defining global political moment of their lives. They are subconsciously aware of it no matter how they feel about it.
>>317609364
>generation X Y Z
Who the fuck invented this naming convention?
Is this fucking pokemon?
>>317624849
FUCK
valve's vr should still be the best one desu
>>317624181
>fags got to decide to name my generation the faggiest name ever
Fuck who let them name us Millennials and lump us in the fucking kids who actually did get born after the millennium? What the fuck sense does that make? Shouldn't only people born after the millennia be Millennials?
You know what, fuck it. Most of those generation names are retarded. Who green lit this bullshit?
>>317624849
>Millennial Generation
>not Pripyat Generation
Why do even get out
>>317624967
They weren't even alive during 9/11, they are way more distracted with lifestyle tech.
Boomers and "millennials" are the one's obsessed with geopolitics, kids these days sure as fuck don't care.
>hate millennials because I think they are the ones born after 2000
>turns out I'm a millennial instead
JUST
>>317625080
>Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe believe that each generation has common characteristics that give it a specific character, with four basic generational archetypes, repeating in a cycle. According to their theory, they predicted Millennials will become more like the "civic-minded" G.I. Generation with a strong sense of community both local and global
>storng sense of local/global community
Social media?
>>317625128
>Pripyat Generation
Cheeki breeki iv damke.
>>317625142
They're aware of it, the fallout from it has shaped the world they are growing up in. Of course, since they are the youngest and current generation, not a lot can be said about them right now. Children are barely people.
>>317625080
Journalists.
>>317606754
>cell phone VR
GGNORE
>>317625232
>millennials aren't considered people born after the millennium
Fucking retards who named this shit. At the very least it should have been pre-millennials and post-millennials instead
>>317606754
It's a VR headset that only works on Samsung phones. Who gives a fuck? 90% of the world has an iPhone or still uses old mobile phones anyway.
Even if it worked on all smart phones, it's still VR for just phones. What, you gonna play virtual reality Angry Birds or something? What's the appeal of this? It seems so stupid. I guess it only exists to grab the cash of stupid people.
>>317622484
But it already happened senpai.
It just needs to find a use for the general population.
![Homelandposter[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/560x0Vw.jpg "Homelandposter[1].jpg")
>naming an entire generation of kids after some shitty normie tv show
That's pretty presumptuous.
![tumblr_inline_nt0vfexkpK1spsojg_540[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pp6SBl7.jpg "tumblr_inline_nt0vfexkpK1spsojg_540[1].jpg")
>>317606754
>/v/ on suicide watch!
LMAO
>99$
Jesus I can feel the low res motion sickness from there
early adopter= paying asshole tax
I think I will wait to get into the whole VR thing
>>317625474
>said generation wasn't even alive or old enough to remember anything that happened
I propose we rename the generation that decided these generation names to the retard generation.
![1396984426938[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/dVqvRQg.png "1396984426938[1].png")
They should be called the Cancer Generation.
>>317624820
>cheaper than any half decent 1080p monitor
>too expensive
get a job
>>317625232
no anon
you are the millennials
>>317625405
You're right. Gen Y should be the "Worst Generation", and Gen Z should be the "Seriously WTF Generation". The reason Gen Z ins't the worst generation is because in order to be the worst, you have to have standards, and Gen Z decided to throw those standards out the window, prop their ass out, and take a dump.
>>317625474
>shitty
Only season 3, and MAYBE 2.
>samshit, facebook, or getting a ps4 are my choices
damn
>>317608164
Well he isn't creating products but technology.
Technology like what 99% of the games existing today use.
>>317625875
considering it looks like having 2 GBA screens on the eyes at silky smooth 10 fps it's definitely overpriced.
>>317625875
Except a monitor is useful for something other than 30 min of boring gimmick stuff.
>>317626031
Karmak agent please go. his input to the industry is minimal.
>>317608164
>talking shit about a guy who would make you look like a drooling retard in a conversation about technology
Look, you might not like the shit he does, but you have to give credit where credit is due.
>>317625998
Never once watched any of it, I'm just guessing it's shitty.
>>317626145
My statement stands true.
>>317626172
Well season 1 and 4 are GOAT, and so far season 5 is breddy good, so you shut your plebeian whore mouth.
Only people not looking forward to VR are folks still living at home who won't be able to experience VR porn out of fear that their mother will walk in on them. This is a FACT.
>>317626327
>some /tv/ faggot presuming to tell me anything
kek
>>317624995
It's the alphabet anon.
>>317626634
So what are they going to do after Z? Start over from the beginning?
>>317626564
/tv/ doesn't like Homeland much at all. It only ever really has live threads, and they are pretty small.
>>317626634
So was Adam and Eve generation A???
>>317626742
Then yet another new generation of pokemon games
>>317626742
>What is Generation AA
>>317626791
Gotta catch them all...
I finally understand Joseph Fritzl.
>>317625829
WITH A FIERY HEAD OF HAIR AND A TURBO CHARGED BACKPACK
>>317626238
>people proves me wrong so I'm right!
. . .
>>317627429
>random vague statement
>proving anyone wrong
Graphics technology Carmack has made is used in nearly every engine used for vidya today.
>>317627303
Is this game any good? Has it been translated yet?
>>317610293
I dunno, I'm pretty interested in these as an alternative to a head tracker for flight sims. My only concern is that, from at least what I've heard of the devkits, the resolution isn't great and I wonder if I'll be able to spot bandits at range.
>>317627613
>game
anon....
>>317628083
Same, flight sims are all I want the Oculus for
There are other games I play with Oculus support but flight sim immersion is my main goal
I already have this setup, I imagine that it'll only be better with Oculus
>>317625829
Requesting the 4chan edit
>>317606754
Exactly how many did they sell? "Sold out" is a meaningless metric for niche 1st generation products like VR glasses, since there might have only been a thousand boxes available in the first place.
>>317627613
>game
VNs are VNs. They aren't games and they belong on /jp/ if Japanese and /vg/ if Western.
Got my gear vr on release day setup stream theater really easily and have been playing alien isolation on it. Pretty damn great so far.
>>317628083
The current models are much improved in terms of SDE but distance viewing might still be an issue. Downsampling will help more than you think but you're going to need a flagship GPU to do it.
>>317628681
Can stream theater stream 3D videos?
>>317628758
With a little fucking with milk vr can much easier to just use oculus video though and local files from what I've learned however.
>>317628518
They've shipped over 150,000 devkits if that helps you give an idea any. They've said they'll ramp up production on the consumer versions higher than those.
OCULUS
CONSUMER VERSION
FUCKING
WHEN
IT HAS BEEN SO GODDAMN LONG
>>317628681
Are you doing that through an Xbone or something?
>>317629031
Next year :^)
>>317624290
Mein nigga. Beast of a phone
>>317628424
That's a pretty bitchin setup
>>317629071
Steaming from my pc using a modified version of moonlight it uses nvidias built in streaming abilities on newer cards.
>>317626634
How do I like your post?
>>317629315
Neat.
>>317629315
how did you manage to get the FTP through the co-axle corroborator nano filaments? didn't the ambush detection firewalls block it? your so deep man
>>317628424
Very nice, I just have a Logitech stick, I don't know when I'll be able to justify getting a HOTAS and pedals. I was going to make a diy head tracker while I wait to see the verdict on OR for combat flight sims and decide whether to get that or TIR
>>317628696
That's what I'm worried about, ever since a hands on with Elite last year mentioned the jaggies. My favorite period is WWI so I have to rely entirely on visual spotting to make contact with enemy aircraft.
>>317611687
The problem with 3DTV was that every TV used a different fucking method for 3D. If people could have brought their glasses to a friends house it might have been better, but instead whoever owned the TV had to have enough glasses for everyone.
I'm interested in VR. I'll be using it while my wife watches her shitty shows on netflix.
>gen Y 1982-2004
>2004
Why the fuck do they keep pushing the date forward? 1994 is the cut off for Gen Y. They need to stop grouping us with idiots who can't remember life without the internet and wireless phones.
>>317631270
I feel like 2000 should be the cutoff date. iPod came out in 2001.
>>317631403
>using an ipod at age 1
don't remind me this is reality
>>317631514
Sorry brah, but it very much is.
>>317631403
>>317631270
2000 should be the cut off date.
Makes a nice clean cut.
VR is garbage and I laugh at any idiot who wants to buy some shitty VR goggles
Come back to me in 20 years then we can talk about it
>>317631270
Where does Gen Y come up?
Also, anywhere I read it says 1980-2000 with everyone after being a post-millenial or iGen (GenZ)
ALL HAIL THE VIRTUAL BOY.
>>317627613
No. Yes.
>>317631735
Gen Y is "millennials" they are synonymous.
Gen Z is "homeland" apparently (referencing 9/11 and post-terror patriotism).
see
>>317624181
>>317631735
Generations should just be every decade.
>>317631890
Every 2 decades. A generation of 10 years doesn't make sense unless everybody is African.
>>317631993
That might have made sense 50 years ago, but the shift from the 90s to the 00s was the biggest ever in terms of childhood. Someone born even 5 years later had a completely different experience.
>>317631993
They have a different upbringing, though. You can't tell me someone born in 1980 grew up the same way that a person born in 1999 did.
That being said I don't know what generations are generally used for other than lumping people together.
>>317632202
You mean because of rapid technological advancement?
I'd argue that 20 years is still fine. It's not supposed to be about technology at all. A new birth means the start of a new generation. 20 is a nice round figure that will catch a lot of young pregnancies, although granted 30 probably even makes more sense given the West's current fertility.
>>317606754
Has anyone tried this thing? Can you use your regular phone with it or just whatever apps they give you? Can I use it on a plane to browse the internet and watch movies in "full screen eyes mode" with no eye tracking shit? just basically a monitor strapped to my face for my phone so I can disconnect from the world?
>>317632242
a real generation usually around a decade because of the cultural stability necessary to create people who feel "the same". the whole X, Y, Z and millenials are literally copyrighted marketing buzzwords made to sell books made by self claimed specialist validating themselves alone.
It's like EA and promoting "AAA" to sell their games.
>>317631850
>Yes.
A proper translation, because I can't find it anywhere.
>>317624947
but you can simulate a theater an imax screen. and a qt grabbing at your fake popcorn in your lap.
I just tried one Samsung ones where you put the phone earlier today.
While you can clearly see and count the pixels in front of your eyes, once you stop being a dick and get past that, it's quite impressive.
I don't see it working for games, though.
Peripheral vision didn't work, neither to the sides or up and down. I wouldn't want to play a game in it.
>>317633110
>games normally run at around 90 degrees FOV
>VR headsets are around 90 degrees FOV
I see.
>>317633110
>once you stop being a dick
>having taste/high expectations is being a dick
I mean, I guess maybe it is but the world would be a shittier place if nobody was a dick.
>>317633110
>once you stop being a dick and get past that
I'm sorry I... offended you, Samsung Justice Warrior
>>317611298
too many sour grapes poorfags and br's here that's why
>>317634076
Not him, but having taste and high expectations isn't being a dick. Having exaggerated and unjustified expectations and then complaining about how your emotional expectations weren't met is.
>>317633110
I've been doing a lot with mine and really that's my biggest complaint the fov kind of sucks that and if it's not perfectly centered on your face you get a slight blur on everything.
>>317606754
Being honest, though I don't find this to be very useful for much besides highly immersive porn and horror games (which I don't play anyways).
>>317634493
>Having exaggerated and unjustified expectations
Who determines what expectations are exaggerated/reasonable and justified/unjustified?
Serious question.
>>317634028
Well, just saying what it felt like, man.
In a monitor you can look at the edges of the monitor without moving the camera, so you can spot someone on the corner of the screen, for example, while also watching something else.
Vision gets distorted on the VR headset, so while it's supposed to work just as good, it doesn't. It stretches everything.
>>317634076
>>317634414
What I meant by "being a dick" is the fact that the first thing I complained about (to myself) was the fact that I could count the pixels if I wanted to, so big they were. Then after I stopped being a dick and just decided to enjoy the sample video, it got enjoyable.
>>317634562
Blame Samsung for not pushing for better optics like the kind Oculus is developing. Samsung is holding Oculus and Carmack back.
>>317634843
Yep, pretty much. The consumer Rift will have less SDE and look sharper despite having a lower res.
>>317634801
Common sense, at least I would like to say. Obviously it's not that easy but here's my reasoning:
If you buy something and did not properly educate yourself on what you were getting into, and then end up complaining because of something that's actually your own fault for not knowing about, is that justified or reasonable?
>>317609364
>sitting directly in front of a TV with a VR headset on
Relevant to this thread
>>317613145
>take a bunch of relevant criticisms
>put it in a bingo card
>"Haha guys look at the haters"
>>317634842
>Vision gets distorted on the VR headset, so while it's supposed to work just as good, it doesn't. It stretches everything.
Isn't it the other way around? When you raise the FOV on your computer screen, it doesn't actually raise the area of your retina lit by the display, it just squishes more into the scene on your monitor. While with proper VR headsets, the lenses un-squish the image on the display, so that it looks perfectly accurate and linear when the image gets to your eyes, and nothing is stretched.
If what you're seeing is stretched then something is going wrong either in the software, or the hardware calibration. Also the lenses on the Gear VR might be terrible compared to the ones on the Rift or Vive, so that could be a factor as well.
>>317620806
>we future now, bros
>>317607839
>slightly worse
>slightly
>SLIGHTLY
Are you fucking brains on pants retarded?
I can't wait until these things work for muh racing games
>>317635814
That is simplified to the point of still being too confusing and misinforming. Not only is the vergence different, but so is the accomodation, or the focusing of your eyes. The lenses focus the image at a distance away so that in effect it is like looking at something from that distance away.
>>317635720
That's how many of these games are going to be played bro. That whole extra box that comes with Sony's VR is just a video processor so it can send shit to the TV. They're trying to steer as far away as they can from making VR look anti-social otherwise every parent in the US is going to tell their kid they can't have it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14lkK6ckDXc
>>317635903
Many aren't relevant and most are largely invalid. People are just tired of rebutting the same shit in every goddamn thread when people are just ignorant of the current standings in VR.
>>317636437
I almost replied to the bait. Thanks for doing it for me, but yes, it's largely uneducated attempts at downplaying things like what usually happens for any new technology.
>>317606754
People are going to be disappointed when they realize VR tech requires an enthusiast level PC with a grand in vid cards alone.
>>317636628
>anon doesn't realize this uses a cell phone
Wow, I bet you feel pretty stupid right now
>>317636016
We Thompson Eye Phones now!
Do you think anyone will make a really dumb 80's cyberpunk web browser app for VR headsets?
Where everything's displayed in tubes and shit? That's all I want
>>317636628
>grand in vid cards alone
Nice try grandpa.
>>317636437
>many aren't relevant
>invalid
But half of them are legitimate fucking concerns from people you moron.
>>317636978
Are they legitimately concerned? Sure. That doesn't make them legitimate issues.
>>317637156
They're legitimate issues in terms of whether people will buy it aka if VR will flop or not.
You know.... The entire point of OP thread?
>>317636978
Maybe if you're naively limiting yourself to a bunch of online vocalists. Meanwhile, speaking with actual people in real life, very little have mention the "concerns" in that image.
Isn't this that stupid shit where it just holds your phone so your just buying some plastic with some sensors in it?
>tfw have a note 4
will i never get to watch vr porn?
>>317635401
>properly educate yourself on what you were getting into
Define "properly educated" in this context.
>>317637336
This is largely solved when you just try it you know. You can demo it at larger Best Buys.
Also the masses aren't concerned, they buy into marketing, not research.
>>317637336
Once people actually try that shit out, most of those concerns go out the window or are never thought about in the first place. Worries by a bunch of autists online does not equate to anything flopping.
>>317637576
Get the Note 4 version bro
